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Anyway, the point of the idea of voting for NGs among the quiet is simply the fact that the Wolves often kill quiet people on Day 1 in order not to leave any tracks. Though of course, I don't mind if somebody votes me for the Night Guard...
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09-22-2009, 10:36 AM | #83 | |
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The whole point of giving people two retractions was that if someone someday was unsure whether s/he could come back before the DL there would be a chance to change one's vote if one eventually had a chance to come back and saw that important information had turned out while s/he had been away.
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09-22-2009, 10:37 AM | #84 | |
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More often I merely take credit for coincidences, or find ways to phrase things that leave no way for me to appear wrong. It's exceptionally easy to say, after the fact, that I meant to do something all along. And while I'll say proudly that I intended to stir up some discussion by tossing my retractions, it's something I'd have done with or without an ulterior motive. Day Ones are boring without something to discuss. I for one believe that anybody with the village's best interest at heart will toss their retractions, thereby cornering the wolves into getting rid of theirs as well. But since people will selfishly and fearfully hold on to the promise that they might make a difference for the better, they will never take away the opportunity for bad guys to make a difference for the worse. Life is sacrifice, my lambs. But are any others brave enough to take initiative?
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09-22-2009, 10:39 AM | #85 |
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FEA! You're alive! I was afraid you drowned in the shower!
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09-22-2009, 10:41 AM | #86 |
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Both Roa and Legate your reasoning behind voting for quiets as NG makes sense to me now, I never even thought of that (early for me like I said)
and Fea....so we are YOUR lambs are we?
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09-22-2009, 10:45 AM | #87 |
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Ok, 5 hours before deadline, and all I have is a Boromir who's either of wolf whose plan didn't work, or paranoid villager, and that only because of one post.
You all asked for it. I'm going to start analysis (something I wanted to save for Day 2).
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However, if you find me suspicious, than vote for me, because I would not be the worst loss. Also, randomly deciding to bandwagon against someone else, because you are not confident in the suspicion of your top suspect, and then the rest of the people who decide to follow you for the same reasons can turn out just as awful (possibly more) than not going with a top suspect even if your reasons are minor against your top. So, pretty much it would be a lot easier if we vote for our top suspects. I can't tell you what they will decide to do with you when my role turns up, but I wouldn't be the most terrible loss and therefor, going with someone who is not your top suspect might wind up more terrible. Quote:
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09-22-2009, 10:51 AM | #89 |
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Here Roa this might help. It's every post up until you asked me what I think of people. I'll be gone for 2 hours and then I'll be back to catch up and vote before my class.
Roa: being very serious, questioning Boro: being silly Zil: no problem being captain Roa: is going to hold her NG vote until later, questions Zil Valier: doesnt have problems with being NG or Captain, will hold her captain vote for a while (like Roa she says though Roa is holding her NG not necessarily her captain) Zil: could be Captain today (but not really tomorrow) Whatever you all think best that is a bit weird Legate: likes that Roa was straight to the point, could be either NG or Captain. Thinks we should choose all 3 people very carefully Boro: being silly Roa: wondering where the village is Sally: doesnt want to be captain Boro: being silly Fea: tells people they can make her anything that they want but she cant promise shell be good at said job Rune: thinks Valier and himself are the most obvious choices for captain (jokingly or not... dont know) but do we want the responsibility? We might never know this was weird. Zil: wonders why Rune and Valier are the most obvious choices Rune: because we are fantastic because they play the game well? *tries to not be offended* Fea: uses her retractions so they wont be around Sally: erm okay? at Rune about the Rune/Valier captain choices Rune: apparently posting while tipsy, dislikes retractable votes as well Roa: asks Rune why he wants to be captain, she had no logistical problems with being captain but makes no promises on being adept at it Roa: finds Rune suspicious for being too eager for the captaincy. Boro: explains that Rune likes having power and importance so this makes him a top candidate for captain, finds the Fea remark defending her use of Boro for retractions: hardly convincing, plans to vote people into various positions based on their ability to identify some quotes Sally: responds to Boros quotes Rune: wants to be Captain because he has the most faith in himself though he says a FeaCaptain might be interesting too Fea: defends her retraction-defense Roa: questions Boro about his quotes Leslote: pops in to say that she probably wouldnt be a good captain as it is her first time playing Roa: helps Leslote becoming invisible Roa: will be back Leslote: apologizes for being visible Hakon: has leadership qualities so wouldnt mind being captain, thinks we should be careful to not vote a gifted into captaincy, proclaims his innocence as a non-gifted. Zil: finds Hakons innocence proclamation weird and asks if he is sure he is innocent Sally: thinks Hakons innocence thing awkward, wont make Rune, Lottie (the new nickname), Hakon, or Fea captain Hakon: felt the need to state that he was innocent Sally: wont be around much Sally: thinks people leaving clues just because they can is weird Nienna: asked some fabulous questions that no one answered its cool. Boro: defends his quote and leaves it open to other takers Roa: wonders what other motive Fea could have had for defending her retraction post within the post Nerwen: identifies Boros quote, thinks we should take the captain stuff more seriously as we really dont want to vote in a wolf Nerwen: wonders what Boro and Fea are up to Gwath: reminds Nerwen that only a few people have actually said they want to be captain the rest say they wouldnt object to holding the position Gwath: will be busy Brinn: wont be around a lot, needs to vote soon, is a bit confused about the rules, doesnt want to random vote as she wouldnt want to be responsible for putting a wolf in for captain Legate: wolf as captain would be tragic, doesnt understand Fea/Boro, doesnt have much time Newren: asks Legate for clarification Legate: clarifies that the Fea/Boro thing should be dropped Rune: can relate to Fea dropping her retractable votes Fea: defends her retracts Boro: defends himself some more Zil: answers another part of the quote, doesnt understand the Fea Controversy Nienna: vouches for Fea, doesnt find the Boro thing weird Roa: a wolf could try bluffing into captaincy, wonders why Legate finds her questioning Boro odd, prompts Boro to actually answer her question Roa: wonders some more where people are Fea: needs shower and food Nienna: reminds Roa that people mentioned lots of RL reasons for being away Boro: says why hes not going to be around much Roa: prompts me to make this post
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09-22-2009, 10:59 AM | #90 |
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09-22-2009, 11:03 AM | #91 |
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Gah, I dislike Day 1's.
Even with many people talking, there never seems to be much of substance to work with. I may be leaning toward Boro as one NG, however. While I don't think him worthy of serious doubt just yet, he's sending an odd vibe or two. The Captain is, at the moment, nearly as pressing a concern for me as the lynch candidate for toDay. That's a lot of power, and certainly dangerous for a wolf to have. Roa (who I have absolutely no previous knowledge of) has been the most vocal and has said nothing to draw my suspicion yet. I'm considering her for Captain. Really, the most doubtful thing I've seen thus far is Hakon's remark about why he'd make a good Captain candidate.
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09-22-2009, 11:03 AM | #92 | |
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Actually, I got massively distracted by the movie 'The Prince & Me: A Royal Honeymoon' which was exactly as terribly as it sounds. I haven't even made it to the shower yet. Naughty me...
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Nienna- didn't anybody with a background in writing ever teach you that you can read things more quickly when they're spaced instead of compacted, and when they're formatted into columns instead of long lines? There's a reason it's easier to skim a newspaper article than it is to skim a Russian novel.
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09-22-2009, 11:07 AM | #93 |
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Im going to ignore the people with two posts or less, because there isnt anything to say about them.
Starting at the bottom and working my way up: Nerwen Post 1 Answers Boromirs quote contest. Points out that the one reason to not vote for someone for NG would that gifted cannot act if voted into this role, is unsure whether this is true or not, Thinks people arent being serious about the captain (She makes a good point and something I hadnt yet thought of. Of course, the gifted cant come out and say that they dont want the job, so it makes little difference) Post 2- Is curious about Boro and Fea, doesnt understand why Fea got rid of her retractables, thinks Boromir should have picked a more obscure quote (I hate retractables myself, but I dont mind them when theyre limited in such a way. Not everyone feels that way, and a lot of people like them.) Post 3- concedes to gwath that people are taking the captain role seriously, is confused by legates statement (Aaaaaaand . No, I got nothing.) Also, Nienna, while your summary was astounding, Im curious as to what conclusions you have drawn from it?
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09-22-2009, 11:09 AM | #94 |
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wow it's been so long I can't remember how to quote poeple.....
No fea I don't deny being a lamb, only that I am not your lamb.
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09-22-2009, 11:10 AM | #95 |
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Let's get the ball started...
++Captain Rune Nice campaign speech, he wants it, take it. ++NG Inzil This merely wasn't for jumping through a hoop for me in answering a question. I've had a very nice read on Inzil's past behavior as a wolf and he's not triggering any wolvish feeling. He's skilled enough to adapt, but I would like him protected.
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09-22-2009, 11:10 AM | #96 | ||
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09-22-2009, 11:12 AM | #97 |
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Seconded. I heart Nienna's SparkNotes.
Roa, Kath's rather quiet too sometimes (although here now) so just keep that in mind. Also, good to see you, Miss Kath! Okay, so to clarify, I (we) need to vote for: Lynch (two plusses and bolded) Captain (two plusses and highlighted, possibly add 'for captain' to the end) Night Guard (two plusses, highlighted, and add 'Guard') Right? I just want to make sure I get it right, see. Going to lunch, but it'll be a slow day at the office I think so I should be around a bit this afternoon. EDIT: x'd with Val, Legate, and Nerwen
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09-22-2009, 11:13 AM | #98 | |
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09-22-2009, 11:15 AM | #99 |
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Hit the "quote" button on the bottom right-hand corner of their posts.
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09-22-2009, 11:16 AM | #100 |
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I don't think it matters. If a gifted is night guarded even if the gifted can't act, the gifted can't be killed. With the gifteds being hunters and rangers, it may be to their advantage to be guarded early and survive later on when they have better chance at using their gifts successfully. That's just my opinion though.
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09-22-2009, 11:22 AM | #101 | ||
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09-22-2009, 11:23 AM | #102 |
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Rune
Post 1- Thinks he and Valier would make the best captains, but may not want to be, thinks this Day will be more random and confusing than usual, says hell be around a bit (Well, that certainly takes some guts to say, but its a really obvious I could be captain, but maybe I dont want it ploy.) Post 2- Says he and Valier are good captain candidates because they has good people skill and people can trust them. (That is terrible reasoning: You can trust me because you can trust me.) Post 3- Says hes actually quite tipsy, and doesnt like retractable votes (Never post on werewolf while drunk.) Post 4- changes to invisible, says he wants to be captain because he trusts himself, though he thinks Captain Fea would be interesting, goes to bed (That at least makes more sense than his previous argument. Of course youd want somebody you can trust in the captain position, and we can only trust ourselves for now) Post 5- says Kath tends to forget Day 1, says he understands and agrees with Fea on retractable votes (Overall, the most suspicious thing about him is his bid for captain. It seems really obvious, almost too obvious for a wolf ploy, but then, Ive pulled obvious stunts as a wolf before and gotten away with it )
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09-22-2009, 11:32 AM | #103 |
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Post 1- Says he wont be around late in Day 2, so it would be difficult for him to be captain then (Ok, just answering a question) Post 2- Clarifies that Day 1 is not a problem for him, but we should do what we think is best (shrug) Post 3- Questions Rune about his bid for captain (Its a fair question) Post 4- Finds Hakons bid for captain suspicious, especially with end statement of Im innocent (A good point and one that Id missed) Post 5- Answers Runes question, doesnt get the controversy around Boro and Fea (The only thing that bothers me is that he isnt around.)
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09-22-2009, 11:33 AM | #104 |
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So we must vote for a captain and 2 NG? then someone to lynch? wow that's alot of decisions.
I think my Captain vote for the day will be someone I'm interested in seeing what they do with the role, my choices atm are Roa, Legate, Boro or Rune, since all are fairly talkative and it would be interesting to see how they handle it. The NG's on the other hand are just people we think should be protected...hmmmm
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09-22-2009, 11:34 AM | #105 |
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Rune is one of the least talkative people here.
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I thought, since the rules explicitely state that Captain can't do anything else at Night and BGs can't do anything else at Night but with NGs there is no such statement, that it means that NGs can do whatever they are. But maybe Mr. Nogmod could clarify if he's around? EDIT: x-ed with His Truly and onwards. Okay, so actually even the NGs cannot do anything, okay? Maybe you should write it to the rules then.
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09-22-2009, 11:38 AM | #108 |
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Hey, okay, one more question then. Are we supposed to cast one vote for NG or two votes for NG? I.e. everybody votes for two people? I originally thought that we are supposed to vote just for one person, and simply the two who got the most will become NGs. Or how is it? Nogger?
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09-22-2009, 11:39 AM | #109 |
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Val, everyone votes for one person to night guard, the top 2 vote getters will then be guarded.
Edit: Legate, I'm sure it was in the Rules somewhere, but I ask everyon to look at post #5 (in this thread, some reason it's not linking for me).
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Hello, I'm finally here. Sorry it took me so long, Tuesdays are just very bad WW days for me. I'll be able to post more on the later Days, though.
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This, of course, has nothing to do with Boro and Fea's case. Personally I can see nothing alarming about either of them. I'll post ideas about the Captain (and maybe NG:s) soon. EDIT: x-ed with loads
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Thanks for the clarification, Nog. (And Boro for the fine example.)
++Guard Val Call it a hunch, but I think she'd make a good Night One kill. (And mind you that I was right last time with Mnemo as well as a couple others, so maybe I'm actually getting the hang of this. Not saying it'll be the case, but I'm sticking by it anyway.) ++Legate for Captain He's said things yet hasn't tripped my radar in any way (yet, at least) so I trust him for now. Besides, I know he's logical and hopefully won't do something stupid if given the power of Captain. EDIT: x'd with A Little
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09-22-2009, 11:51 AM | #112 |
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Fea
Post 1- has no problem being Captain or NG, but makes no promises about her performance Post 2- Gets rid of her retractable votes. (I still dont see anything suspicious about it.) Post 3 Explains to Boromir about her previous posts Post 4 explains her reason for not liking retractable votes (Well, shes right ) Post 5- Says shell be back after a shower and some food Post 6 finds it amusing that people credit her with brilliant scheming when she usually just takes advantage of circumstances, says she wanted to stir up discussion because Day 1s are boring, thinks anyone who has the villages best interest at heart will throw away their retractables (I mostly agree with her, except for the last part, since sometimes a retractable can be used for good.) Post 7- explains her absence, banters with Valier, criticizes Niennas formatting. (Shes done one major thing that apparently succeeded in purpose- stirring up discussion- but shes made very little comment on any suspicions or thoughts, and I usually expect more from her. I want to know who shes going to vote for and why, and she just isnt delivering. A fea who wants to save the village tends to be aggressive.)
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09-22-2009, 11:59 AM | #116 |
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09-22-2009, 12:06 PM | #119 |
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++ Legate for Captain
Because he seems sensible and innocentish and has already received a vote. I don't like the idea of spreading the votes too much, especially if someone I'm considering myself has already been voted for. By the way, what happens if there is a tie in Captain votes? Noggers?
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