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I'm on my lunch break right now, so I've had time to read through the thread, but I'll probably have to post, vote, and run pretty quickly here. I've only gotten impressions on some of you. I'll note down what I've got, but this game is too big for a bunch of people not to slip right past my radar, so I'm not going to bother listing the people I don't have thoughts on.
Zil: His tone is a little formal in the way it gets sometimes when he's evil. Lommy: Has been logical and helpful, and seems genuine enough about it. Wilwa: Has been focusing a lot of the attention on the hunter and bear, but since that is the only topic of conversation that's really stuck so far, I can't exactly fault her for that. Yes, the hunter and the bear aren't our priority - but it's better to have people talking and leaving tracks behind than sitting quietly, all agreeing that the wolves are our priorities. Wilwa looks pretty good in my eyes. Galadriel: Her tone strikes me as a teeny bit too cautious, too thought-out. I'll keep an eye on her, but I wouldn't vote her yet. WythDryden: Welcome to Werewolf! Rikae: Has been very reasonable and logical. Her tone seems pretty calm, not too cautious, which either means she's not a wolf or that none of her packmates have attracted attention yet. Mac: Strikes me as being fairly genuine in his tone. Seems to me to be more innocent than not so far Gil: Nothing he's said has really caught my eye as being suspicious. skip: I don't like his vote. Like Rikae said, it's a easy vote, and looks more like a wolf trying for an easy Day 1 lynch than an innocent with a genuine suspicion. My lunch break is almost over by this point, so I'll have to vote really soon. Probably for skip unless something came up unexpectedly. EDIT: xed since Wilwa's #76
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Alright, I've got to get back to work.
++skip Good luck, village!
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So anyway, deciding whether we should be targeting one over the other isn't really all that productive to me. The methods of discovering either will be fairly similar I think (kill the bad guys!), and lynching the Bear would not be terrible to the point where we should be actively trying to avoid doing it. (3 more hours, if I'm correct?) x'ed 3 pages! x'ed with Skip and Lottie
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Three pages? Three pages? THREE PAGES!
I hate you all. ++Lottie Because that was a long list that rubbed me the wrong way and I don't have time to find anything better to base a vote on. Sorry, love.
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Two thoughts for starters...
It's funny people speculate so enthusiastically whether we should go for the lions or the bear - I mean it would be nice if we were that good that we spotted them just like that in the first place and could then choose which one to lynch first... ![]() Mac Connington's - or should we call him Mr. Griff - toying with the Targaryen-revealment is probably the only thing that caught my eye thus far. Although I'm not sure I can see a reason for anyone to do that kind of thing (be it a correct or a false hint). *baffled* EDIT: X'd with all on page 3.
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Whenever I say "the greater good" I think of the Simon Pegg movie Hot Fuzz, when they all murmur in a monotone voice "the greater good..." so when I was talking I couldn't help but add that reference.
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Ok, so I guess it's time to start focusing on individuals and take a moment away from the discussion on game mechanics. Only a little over two hours to go.
I'm not seeing anything abundantly suspicious in anyone yet, but there are a few red flags here and there. My thoughts currently: Skip: I really don't like his suggestion about the hunter revealing. Having a known innocent isn't all that useful right now, at least not compared to how it could be in a few more days. Also not a fan of his vote, but really Day 1 votes kinda always suck. Lottie: her list is very non-confrontational (best word I can think of to describe it) appears helpful but really nothing majorly negative about anyone. But, she's doing this from work as I am, and probably doesn't have the freedom that I do to contribute more substance. Gil-Galad: talking way more than I ever remember him talking in WW, but to be fair I probably am too. I have agreed with a lot of what he's said, so I don't know, iffy here. Mac: seems very nervous about the potential of having a cobbler, don't really get that, frankly they aren't that huge of a threat, certainly not compared to an extra night kill. Lommy: seems to think this game is "too easy", which I don't really see right now, likely losing 2 people a night and therefore increasing our chances of losing gifteds and our numbers dwindling quickly, is not what I would call easy. And that was in stark contrast to what she previously said about our bad odds. I feel pretty good about Boro, Rikae, Kit and Nerwen. Everyone else I am neutral about at the moment. So my vote? Will wait a while longer, should be able to stick around close to DL, not getting much work done anyway, and I'd like more to go on. note: had a tough time posting this, my work computer seems to not like the Downs, maybe it's trying to tell me to get back to work, haha, but if I don't come back it's because my computer won't let me, hopefully that doesn't happen!
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Goodness I'm so sorry, I had no idea the game had started!
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Another thing a bunch of people said is that we're talking about lovers too much and lions too little. Well, what do you want in the first-in-several-years game with lovers? That's the first point. The second one is that how exactly are you planning to find wolves with no votes, no kills, no posts, no nothing? Discussion of the roles is as good a place as any to start chatting. To be quite honest, I'm very happy with the start of this game. A typical D1 has 20 hours dedicated to complete silence, 3 to IC and banter, and the rest to something that sounds like "I don't like the way he phrased his IC post, I'll vote for him". Ok fine, that was an exaggeration, but you get the point. This game there's a good discussion going on the various possibilities for the new roles and rules, something that could also be reread later on with a bit more known roles. It's true that we have to look out for people to vote (in 2h I believe), but saying "look for suspicion" isn't gonna help you get people to talk. A good discussion will. If everyone says "Let's look for wolves!", you're not gonna find any, because there's nothing more left to say. People who encourage others to restrict discussion on D1 to "looking for wolves/lions" do a very good job of allowing the wolves to hide beneath these words. /end rant #2 Quote:
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Holy smokes, this is a big village. And a lot of people are posting. On Day 1! That's good, but it's also a headache for those doomed to be at work.
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Blissfully absent:
Eonwe Green Lommyhands New to the game / haven't played with before (as far as I'm aware), so vote-exempt for now: Loslote, Wyth, Copper (not too concerned about either of them at this point) Seem innocent at the moment: Encai (feels good) Wilwa (been disagreeing with her, but she sounds innocent) Rikae (playful Rikae is ordo-Rikae, or so I'd like to think) Volo (feels good, too) Gil (same) No clue either way, really: Lommy Greenhands (mostly fine, but just too much bear-talk overall) Nerwen (does seem alright, but only a fool trusts Nerwen) Galadriel (no real feeling either way) Eomer (same here) Nogrod (hasn't said enough yet) Sally (hasn't said much either) Skip (said plenty, but I don't know what to do with him) Somewhat fishy: Inzil (seems nervous) Kitanna (really just this one line I pointed out earlier, very flimsy suspicion) Boro (something seems off, can't put my finger on it) Very fishy: nobody Totally fishy: nobody A lot of gut feeling in this list, and nobody sticks out as truly deserving of a vote. Day One at its best. PS: more house sigil avatars everybody! ![]() PPS: crossed with two loooong posts there |
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I would argue that lions (let's not bring traditional bigotry against the noble wolf into this game, people!) would find it far easier to hide in a drawn-out discussion on game mechanics. I always fancy that we can find lions - usually, in subsequent days I grant you - if we had gotten right down into the mud-slinging as early as possible on Day 1. You see this in the more basic games, for sure; I don't think this general tactic should change in the more complex ones. For that reason, I'm somewhat suspicious of those guests who are chummying up to others by praising the "good discussion" they are engaged in - and which gets us no nearer a good old-fashioned lion-lynching.
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I have a meeting at DL so this is probably the last I will be on until well after D1.
++Skip Not as random as I thought it would be, but built on flimsy reasoning. Skip has been the only one to really draw my attention. His belief that having a known innocent in exchange for a secret hunter doesn't feel right. It feels like he's pushing for something that could and probably will be harmful for the village by drawing ranger resources to protect someone who has no knowledge of anyone else's role and therefore their only benefit is being a known innocent for a day or two.
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Time to summarize the feelings I got from reading the thread this far
Eönwë - under the radar, which is a nice hiding place for a wolf (or a bear)
Inziladun - his normal self Kitanna - also under the radar Encaitare - seems a bit too trigger happy, but I'll give her the benefit of doubt toDay wilwarin538 - makes sense and contributes and all that, but her bear-centrism feels sinister to me Boromir88 - otherwise seems innocent enough but didn't give any reasoning for his vote which is always a bit weird Loslote - notable: easy vote Nerwen - I'm hoping to see her vote on Day1 again, I was so proud of her last game Galadriel55 - calm down girl! definitely up there on my suspicion list for making a huge fuss about the bear discussion after the necessity of the bear discussion had already been beaten to death imho A Little Green - nothing much yet WythDryden - should be on invisible mode, otherwise fine Eomer of the Rohirrim - I'm fighting very hard my knee-jerk suspicion of him before I see more of him (he and I seem to always suspect each other) Rikae - seems innocent enough for now Macalaure - the Mac I remember from previous games was way less chaotic! I'm baffled... Coppermirror - can form a radar club with Eönwë and Kitanna Nogrod - should concentrate on ww not football Colin "Volo" Mute - I would like to observe him for longer before passing a judgement, but nothing worries me yet Gil-Galad - actually seems quite innocent even though I disagree with his points satansaloser2005 - radar club skip spence - notable: easy vote (I feel like Gil and Skip himself are easy Day1 lynch targets because they think fast and sometimes a bit kneejerkily and are active enough to draw attention) edit: xed with everything starting from #99
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And I'm not a fan of those who point their fingers in this kind of vague fashion just implying something while actually not even doing it (not to talk of actually laying a claim or making an open suspicion) - looks pretty lionish to me. And anyway, with an hour to go we need to get something going by way of making suspicions. So yes, I'm suspecting Galadriel the most at the moment. Going to read back next... EDIT: X'd with Lommy
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RL calls, I must be briefer that I thought.
Did not stand out: Eonwe Enca (much too little impression of her yet, and my first game with her and all) Zil - not much to say about him. He poked around but didn't stand out either way Boro - see above Kit - ditto Greenie - didn't know the game is on Rikae - doesn't feel innocent, but also doesn't feel guilty Cop - somewhat crazy, but otherwise ok / no impression. Nog - seems more absent than not, or maybe my impressions of him just got lost in the sea of posts and players. sally - blank on her. Eomer - picks and pokes, but looks ok. Lommy - more flambuoyant than I remember, but no feeling either way. Lottie - gives good vibes. wilwa - me likey! Quite loud throughout a good portion of the Day, and she's very reasonable and makes sense. Nerwen - looks like her usual self. Too early and too little posts from her to declare "feels innocent", but it's getting there. Wyth - not much from him, eh? He made one pretty good point, then backed down. I'd say, good point, backing down like that is not the greatest strategy but I've done worse. I would not vote him either way, this being his first game, but even without that I wouldn't vote him. Good vibes maybe? Mac - really don't like the way he pushes some discussion. His arguments don't make that much sense (slash I just don't agree, but then that's how we evaluate sense most of the time), and he's very insistent on them. However, he's blatantly running for the centre spotlight of attention, which is unwolvy. But still, the way he says some stuff just doesn't sound right. Vote candidate. Gil - I don't like the way he posts, but he posts this way. I tend to give more slack for erratic and careless playing styles than most others, and this game is no exception. When I read his posts, I look more at the content than at how he says it. Volo - don't remember much of him at this point, but some of the earlier things he said rubbed me the wrong way. They just don't sit right. Vote candidate. skip - I don't agree with what he's said, and I don't like his vote, but I can understand his vote. At this point I think it's much easier to jump on him than claim that he jumped on Gil. So semi-vote candidate. G55 - my lovely innocent self. So I'm left with Volo and Mac as my two top candidates. Will check for cross posting and maybe review their posts and then vote. EDIT: xed since my last
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Wyth has been having account issues again. He is barred from posting at present, and I know he was definitely on Invisible Mode before, so maybe the two things are connected. *sigh* If he can't post on that account before the deadline, he will likely have to post as Lote22 again.
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Btw. would our gracious moddesses offer us a voting-tally thus far with all the non-highlighted votes & stuff confirmed?
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I'm remembering now how much I dislike Day 1 votes. Looks like I may be getting pulled away from my desk soon, not sure how long it'll take so won't take the chance that I can't come back.
Going with: ++Skip Because his ideas about the hunter were odd and I don't think they were really in our best interest. Not a lot to go on, I know, but my best hunch right now. Hopefully I can come back on, I'll see how long this meeting goes, if not: good luck! x'ed with G55, Encai (that sucks! Hopefully it gets sorted out!), and Nog
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Ok, my time toDay is up.
I can't see anyone else who pings the radar as much, so it's ++skip x/d with Enca, Nog, and Wilwa
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Skip -> Gil
Lottie -> Skip Sally -> Lottie Boro -> Inzil Kit -> Skip 2 Wilwa -> Skip 3 Inzil -> Skip 4 edit: xed with Nog's request and the two last votes, added
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*tries to hide the honey in his hair*
Feeling better about Eomer and Galadriel as well. She's sooo insistent that we can't get a wolf today (not that I'm optimistic by any stretch), I highly doubt a wolf would act this way, and lacking a cobbler, she's most likely innocent. (crossed with numbers 3 and 4 of the Skip-bandwaggon) |
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Something about Wilwa bothers me. She's reasonable enough, but she seems nervous.
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Iiiinteresting!
What the ??? at this bandwagon?! Also anyone else notice that the second and the third voter (Lottie and Sally) voted the one that had voted before them. Weird. ediT: xed with everyone, corrected my censored phrasing ![]() ![]()
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I can see why skip is suspicious, but I'm rather baffled at how centred the votes are around him. I don't like it. Seems too easy for... certain individuals.
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Huh, interesting find. *Files for later reference*
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