Yet another quote that wasn't - Page 3 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

HerenIstarion · 02-25-2004, 12:15 AM

Nice try, but no cylindrical smoking thing. Attend to the fact that 'this high' bears positive implications, and Sam in Lorine, in fact, should be afraid of sleeping 'this high",

HerenIstarion · 03-21-2004, 04:41 AM

another hint, like it - the speaker is not human

btw, Evisse, is that C.S.Lewis quote in your sig, perchance?

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-21-2004, 06:18 PM

Might it be the Lord of the Eagles, high in his Eyrie, commenting upon the commotion caused by the Goblins and Wargs who had trapped Gandalf, Bilbo, Thorin and co in the trees just east of the Misty Mountains?

Quote:

What is all this uproar in the forest tonight? One cannot sleep even this high what with all that noise.

HerenIstarion · 03-21-2004, 11:57 PM

cylindrical smoking thing

, that's indeed Lord of the Eagles. Over to you

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-22-2004, 07:24 PM

Thank you, HI.

This one should be fairly easy, I think:

Quote:

Indeed by rejecting such counsels, he may show his love for you the more.

HerenIstarion · 03-23-2004, 01:35 AM

Can it referr to Aragonr's decision to ride the Paths of the Dead? Probably said by Eomer to Eowyn...

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-23-2004, 07:53 AM

No, but Eomer is relevant to the (non-)quote ...

HerenIstarion · 03-24-2004, 12:27 AM

Than counel-giver should be Theoden. hum, gotta think about it a bit more...

Evisse the Blue · 03-24-2004, 07:01 AM

Quote:

btw, Evisse, is that C.S.Lewis quote in your sig, perchance?

Nope, it's Merry the Hobbit.

Is it Gandalf to Theoden about Eomer rejecting Wormtongue's counsels?

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-24-2004, 07:39 AM

That's the one, Evisse.

Evisse the Blue · 03-25-2004, 10:57 AM

Thank you.

Next up: (I'll hint if needed):

"I am of like mind. It is their luck and our evil fortune that it is not day. But still it may prove the best such as it is.

HerenIstarion · 03-26-2004, 07:43 AM

Could it possibly be Gandalf to Thorin concerning sheltering in a cave on a High Pass?:

Quote:

This won't do at all!" said Thorin. "If we don't get blown off or drowned, or struck by lightning, we shall be picked up by some giant and kicked sky-high for a football.
I am of like mind. It is their luck and our evil fortune that it is not day. But still it may prove the best such as it is. Well, if you know of anywhere better, take us there

a bit grubby, perhaps, but worth a try?

Evisse the Blue · 03-26-2004, 10:53 AM

sorry, that's not it. Shall I hint? I think I will: it's a conersation between two warriors.

HerenIstarion · 03-27-2004, 01:59 AM

May it be Eomer to Aragorn in the Helm;s deep (just before thay come out for a sortie?)

Evisse the Blue · 03-29-2004, 05:41 AM

Yes, that's the one. more precisely after Aragorn says: 'Would that day were here and we may ride down upon them like a storm out of the mountains"

Shamelessly off-topic: Congrats Russia at the World Skating Champs!

HerenIstarion · 03-29-2004, 05:51 AM

off topic re: do people congratulate Irish upon Englishman winning a title?

(thanks nevertheless

)

next up:

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I should not pop up and down in a way he does, what with his age in mind and everything. What is he excited about, anyway?

Evisse the Blue · 03-29-2004, 06:04 AM

Is it Frodo and Sam when first seeing Tom Bombadil?

HerenIstarion · 03-29-2004, 06:11 AM

Hum, in terms of time and space, it was a lot earlier and a lot to the East

Evisse the Blue · 04-03-2004, 08:39 AM

Maybe a bit of a stretch but...It could be the dwarves about Bilbo when he was fussing over his plates and running to and fro from one to the other trying to keep his plates from being broken.

HerenIstarion · 04-03-2004, 02:05 PM

Well, Bilbo was not that old than, after all. And you forgot about 'a bit to the east' too. The one to be referred to is called 'fellow' in the actual quote immediately preceeding the non-existent one

HerenIstarion · 04-10-2004, 06:14 AM

more hints, than:

1. Naming dwarves and BIlbo you hit quite close
2. Look through final chapters of the Hobbit for it

Evisse the Blue · 04-10-2004, 08:55 AM

It must be Bilbo to Thorin about that thrush:

Quote:

the old fellow seems very excited.I should not pop up and down in a way he does, what with his age in mind and everything. What is he excited about, anyway?

.

Hmmm, I think I discovered something interesting: you have a tendency to pick a lot of quotes from this particular chapter 15 of The Hobbit.

HerenIstarion · 04-10-2004, 12:44 PM

yes, certainly

pray proceed

edit: hum? Chater 15, is it? Honestly, it is unconscious... it was not me, I was set up, I ain't done it...

But if it is really the case, than you have additional tool to guess out my questions, eh?

Evisse the Blue · 04-13-2004, 09:07 AM

Who did not speak this and when?

Quote:

Such sadness as is strange to us Elves.

HerenIstarion · 04-19-2004, 04:05 AM

A number of people may have had uttered it on number of occasions. Would you narrow it up a bit, please?

Evisse the Blue · 04-20-2004, 03:51 AM

Ok -
1. the word sadness is mentioned in the previous sentence
2. it's from LOTR

HerenIstarion · 04-21-2004, 01:22 AM

ah, that helps

May it be Legolas upon hearing the song of the Rohirrim?

Quote:

That, I guess, is the language of the Rohirrim,' said Legolas; 'for it is like to this land itself; rich and rolling in part, and else hard and stern as the mountains. But I cannot guess what it means, save that it is laden with the sadness of Mortal Men.Such sadness as is strange to us Elves.

Evisse the Blue · 04-22-2004, 06:23 AM

You are correct, sir!

HerenIstarion · 04-22-2004, 06:39 AM

on we go, than

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Green they were and pleasant, and now lie bare and empty, and no merry sound stirs this dreadful silence

Evisse the Blue · 04-26-2004, 01:48 AM

Tom Bombadil about the barrows?

HerenIstarion · 04-26-2004, 02:01 AM

Nope

I'm going to become self-plagiarist with reagard to hints. So the hint runs again as:

Quote:

Hum, in terms of time and space, it was a lot earlier and a lot to the East

radagastly · 04-28-2004, 08:35 AM

If I may venture a guess . . .
It may be Thorin from The Hobbit speaking of the desolation of Smaug as they approached the Lonely Mountain in the chapter "On the Doorstep".

Quote:

The land about them grew bleak and barren, though once, as Thorin told them, it had been green and fair.

"Green they were and pleasant, and now lie bare and empty, and no merry sound stirs this dreadful silence."

HerenIstarion · 04-28-2004, 10:53 PM

It's not a ten mark, but nine and a half for sure

. Try to narrow it just a bit (Non existent quotes are usually extensions of direct quotes)

radagastly · 04-29-2004, 07:17 AM

Then perhaps it's Balin, from the next page:

Quote:

"There lies all that is left of Dale," said Balin. "The mountain's sides were green with woods and all the sheltered valley rich and pleasant in the days when the bells rang in that town"

"Green they were and pleasant, and now lie bare and empty, and no merry sound stirs this dreadful silence."

Is that what you had in mind?

HerenIstarion · 05-02-2004, 10:40 PM

Exactly

Over to you

radagastly · 05-03-2004, 07:45 AM

To me then, though this is a little harder than I thought. I will hint as necessary:

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"Three-score and eighteen winters have come since that place was laid bare, if only for a little."

I hope that's not too easy, or too hard. It's hard to tell.

HerenIstarion · 05-03-2004, 08:06 AM

May it be Haldir to Frodo about Dol-Guldur? Since Sauron declared himself at Barad-Dur in T.A. 2951, and Frodo was visiting Lorien in T.A. 3019 that may be the case:

Quote:

There lies the fastness of Southern Mirkwood,' said Haldir. `It is clad in a forest of dark fir, where the trees strive one against another and their branches rot and wither. In the midst upon a stony height stands Dol Guldur, where long the hidden Enemy had his dwelling. Three-score and eighteen winters have come since that place was laid bare, if only for a little We fear that now it is inhabited again, and with power sevenfold

radagastly · 05-03-2004, 09:09 AM

Well, I guess that didn't take that long. You're dead on. Back to you.

HerenIstarion · 05-04-2004, 12:22 AM

Well, not that easy, but a bit of scanning through Tale of Years did the trick

Next one up:

Quote:

Bid him hasten, so he may come hither in a short while.

radagastly · 05-05-2004, 09:57 AM

I think you're trying to trick us. Could this be from the Council of Elrond? Gandalf quoting Radagast quoting Saruman:

" 'Saruman the White,' answered Radagast. 'And he told me to say that if you feel the need, he will help; but you must seek his aid at once, or it will be too late.' "
"--Bid him hasten, so he may come hither in a short while."

02-25-2004, 12:15 AM	#81
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Nice try, but no cylindrical smoking thing. Attend to the fact that 'this high' bears positive implications, and Sam in Lorine, in fact, should be afraid of sleeping 'this high", __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-21-2004, 04:41 AM	#82
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	another hint, like it - the speaker is not human btw, Evisse, is that C.S.Lewis quote in your sig, perchance? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-21-2004, 11:57 PM	#84
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	cylindrical smoking thing , that's indeed Lord of the Eagles. Over to you __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 03-22-2004 at 12:10 AM.

03-23-2004, 01:35 AM	#86
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Can it referr to Aragonr's decision to ride the Paths of the Dead? Probably said by Eomer to Eowyn... __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-23-2004, 07:53 AM	#87
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	No, but Eomer is relevant to the (non-)quote ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-24-2004, 12:27 AM	#88
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Than counel-giver should be Theoden. hum, gotta think about it a bit more... __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-24-2004, 07:39 AM	#90
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	That's the one, Evisse. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-25-2004, 10:57 AM	#91
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Thank you. Next up: (I'll hint if needed): "I am of like mind. It is their luck and our evil fortune that it is not day. But still it may prove the best such as it is. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

03-26-2004, 10:53 AM	#93
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	sorry, that's not it. Shall I hint? I think I will: it's a conersation between two warriors. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

03-27-2004, 01:59 AM	#94
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	May it be Eomer to Aragorn in the Helm;s deep (just before thay come out for a sortie?) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-29-2004, 05:41 AM	#95
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	You're right! Yes, that's the one. more precisely after Aragorn says: 'Would that day were here and we may ride down upon them like a storm out of the mountains" Shamelessly off-topic: Congrats Russia at the World Skating Champs! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

03-29-2004, 06:04 AM	#97
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	(right, sorry, point taken. lol! great comparison there... Is it Frodo and Sam when first seeing Tom Bombadil? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

03-29-2004, 06:11 AM	#98
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	pas de quois, mademoiselle :) Hum, in terms of time and space, it was a lot earlier and a lot to the East __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

04-03-2004, 08:39 AM	#99
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	gracious as always, HI :) Maybe a bit of a stretch but...It could be the dwarves about Bilbo when he was fussing over his plates and running to and fro from one to the other trying to keep his plates from being broken. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-03-2004, 02:05 PM	#100
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	a bit too early Well, Bilbo was not that old than, after all. And you forgot about 'a bit to the east' too. The one to be referred to is called 'fellow' in the actual quote immediately preceeding the non-existent one __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

04-10-2004, 06:14 AM	#101
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	more hints, than: 1. Naming dwarves and BIlbo you hit quite close 2. Look through final chapters of the Hobbit for it __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

04-10-2004, 12:44 PM	#103
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	yes, certainly pray proceed edit: hum? Chater 15, is it? Honestly, it is unconscious... it was not me, I was set up, I ain't done it... But if it is really the case, than you have additional tool to guess out my questions, eh? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 04-10-2004 at 12:54 PM.

04-19-2004, 04:05 AM	#105
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	A number of people may have had uttered it on number of occasions. Would you narrow it up a bit, please? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

04-20-2004, 03:51 AM	#106
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Ok - 1. the word sadness is mentioned in the previous sentence 2. it's from LOTR __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-22-2004, 06:23 AM	#108
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	You are correct, sir! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-26-2004, 01:48 AM	#110
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Tom Bombadil about the barrows? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

04-28-2004, 10:53 PM	#113
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	near hit It's not a ten mark, but nine and a half for sure . Try to narrow it just a bit (Non existent quotes are usually extensions of direct quotes) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

05-02-2004, 10:40 PM	#115
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Exactly Over to you __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

05-03-2004, 09:09 AM	#118
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	Well, I guess that didn't take that long. You're dead on. Back to you.

05-05-2004, 09:57 AM	#120
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	I think you're trying to trick us. Could this be from the Council of Elrond? Gandalf quoting Radagast quoting Saruman: " 'Saruman the White,' answered Radagast. 'And he told me to say that if you feel the need, he will help; but you must seek his aid at once, or it will be too late.' " "--Bid him hasten, so he may come hither in a short while."