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Well the Cursed said Ord and the Cobbler said innocent. Wasn't entirely sure whether it was a clerical error, or meant to be specific.
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Not liking the Lottie votes. So, Fea comes in and makes a random vote, lets excuse that and go along with her for no apparent reason. Not liking how Mira defends the vote either.
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Will I retract? Probably. Would it be a waste of the 1 retract? No. I like dumping them soon, so I can actually put my votes to best uses. Retracts give a reason to not make the best vote, as it's kind of like...these are here in case you get get careless and mess up. I expect Fea to retract, and have some reason for the vote? Will she tell us? Probably not. Does it matter? Not really. Is she a wolf? Dunno.
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Had this argument last time maybe I should do this "so and so "FEELS" off" somehow acceptable me seeing something I find odd and pointing it out that's weird?
Anywho... No one pops out want to vote agan... but won't because That Would be knee jerk... I do have to vote soon though (Responding to post 80 forgot to quote it.)
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Bedtime soon and I will have to vote I guess. Naturally I know what I am, but as for the others I'm in the dark. You lot may have reasons to suspect people based on the lessons learnt from old games. Me, I will have to base my decision on what I can see here. And to my mind, the only logical suspicion I can raise at this point is on Fea. I've already explained why. To my mind, throwing away ones vote early on a random target makes more sense for a wolf. You might double-guess and reason that this would suggest the opposite, that a real wolf never would stick out her neck like that, and triple-guess that she suspects that this is what people would think, thus keeping her safe etc. but that's too much for me at present. I'll stick to my first impression. Min finländske vän Lommy may of course be right that this is vintage Fea, and that she will come back and retract her vote before the deadline and make another more one. But if so, that too is slightly suspicious to me. The retractable vote must be an advantage to have, no? Why then waste it? So, I'm going to vote for Fea unless something happens in the next hour or so that make me change my mind about it. Bare in mind that my suspicions are weak though. She could also easily be innocent.
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First post vote followed by "Day one who cares?" then a bit of the Tweedles poem.
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Hey Nog you posted the same post twice.
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As you might have noticed I didn't play in last game. And it's perfectly alright to point out what you find odd, but your thought process in the post I found suspicious seemed half-hearted and lazy and somehow far-fetched too (the part that Lommy or someone else pointed out). Give better reasons for your suspicions and I might change my mind about you. But yeah as for now ++Mirandir because thus far she seems the most suspicious to me. oh and --Mirandir ++Mirandir as I dislike retrackies anyway, and this is what I think everyone should do because otherwise the wolves will probably use them against us in the end. I'll hang around here till I've finished my tea and will go to sleep then.
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Oh, and I love retractable votes, but I'll just drive myself mad if I have a free pass to mindchanging sitting around. With that....
++Sally --Sally I'm analyzing the votes so far, but please be patient, as I'm really scatterbrained today. That and....well, a nap sounds lovely....and Boro's shoulder is so comfy....
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Let's all use our retractable votes so if a wold happens to trick us we're done. With my track record I'm saving mine
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Fea - Lottie
winty - Brinn Lommy - Lottie Boro - Glirdy Green - Lottie Morsul - winty Agan - Mira Lottie-3, Mira-1, winty-1, Glirdy-1, Brinn-1 Retraction left: everybody but Agan & sally I think we really should keep track on who has used their retraction and who hasn't, and that everyone should use them asap, because as I've said they are more useful to the wolves than to us.
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K cool, thanks. I thought that's what she meant, but my brain is a bit....askew today and I didn't want to misunderstand. Thanks for the help! ^_^
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Plans? I have none last few times it came down to my vote I made the wolves win, I'm going to try Not to repeat that
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Agan changed Avatars mid-game
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Just returned back to my old self because I like it better and recognise it faster.
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My tea-time is coming to an end as well as I have a tough morning tomorrow. So a few thoughts, a list-like thingy, a vote and to sleep... I don't think that "seen as an ordo" or "seen as an innocent" is anything more than just two different phrases to say the same thing. Otherwise it would be pointless to make that distinction as either one would then be clear to the seer and WilwAlirin could have just told us so. I'm also a bit uneasy about this quite rapid lynching-queue that emerged for Lottie. It's not that I think her particularly innocent (vice versa) but the easiness by which it just came about... Needs to look at it. Someone (Agan?) compared the retrackies to the phantom's game where people had 10 extra-votes and how the wolves kept them and in the end ran over the innocents with their pile of votes. I don't think that is a good comparison. A retraction is a good idea when you are not sure you can be back before the DL and need to vote just to be sure you vote - and then you suddenly are able to come back and major things have happened meanwhile. I don't like retractions everyDay or any unlimited retrackies, but one for the whole game is quite good: it serves the possible need and doesn't give too much leeway for the wolves to play tactics with them. But well, anybody's decision. Quote:
Heh, I can see there is a new fashion in town, getting rid of the retrackies... how nice. ![]() (~~~) *grin vanishing*
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Okay, I'm not accusing you of anything, sweetheart, but a retractable vote is useful for anyone, is it not? I certainly can see how wolves could use retractions to great advantage late in the game but why the haste?
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Anyway, I agree that wolves can make good use of a retractable vote, but so can the good side. What happens if one votes early, then has to contend with a Seer reveal, or something of that nature toward the end of the Day? Being able to retract comes in handy then. So I'm not retracting unless I see a need for it. Also, I think I agree with the Boropillar that this push against Lottie looks bad. x/d with all since # 91
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*concurs* I kept thinking there was a new player but then looked to the side and saw it was you...
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Tea Time Part 2
Sorry it took me so long....Those horse radishes were being rather stubborn, stampeding all of the place and trampling my feet.... Sheez...(AKA: Read the Admin thread). And now there are so many people that I don't think I have enough tea
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(~~~) *grin emerging*
Okay. There were some suspicions on Lottie from early on (Fea's unexplained vote, my comment on understanding that vote...). Suddenly everyone was lynching Lottie. There were a few comments about disliking retrackies (Lommy's explanation of Fea's behaviour, Boro's continuation on the same vein...). Suddenly a band of people are using their retrackies. Does anyone else find that interesting? Is that just herd-mentality (oh, Nietzsche how right you were?) or is there something else at stake? (~~~) *grin vanishing*
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A few more minutes... and probably voting and going to sleep. EDIT: x-ed with Glirdy, Sally and Catnod.
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A note:
I've a friend that's ill and am organizing a bit of "yay let's make the poor girl feel better" stuff. That said, I may or may not be going to a meeting in a couple hours (no, really, I haven't decided if I'm going yet or not) so I may not be around much. I'm working on analyzing the votes between all the other stuff but I don't seem to be able to multitask worth a muffin (<3) today so I'm a bit slow.
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Thiiiis vote on Lottie bothers me. Partiiiiiially because it seems like we lynch her first a lot, and partiiiially because the reasoning on the bandwagon isn't superb.
Right now I think Morsul is the most suspicious for his comment about wanting everyone to use up their retractions, but keeping his own.
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And definitely agreed on Morsul. Hypocrites should always be the first to go. *nods sagely, head droops, starts to snore*
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Anyway... ++Lottie Good night.
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Almost forgot to vote.
++Fea (don't know how to make that red) Explanation to be found in earlier post. Good night!
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Skip: take the B from the brackets of bolding off and write highlight instead of the B's.
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Skippy (hehe!): Instead of the B in the tag, type highlight. Easy as pie (in your eye). ^_^ EDIT: D'oh. x'd with Noggins, who was also using his noggin.
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