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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ghost-Prince of Cardolan
Posts: 806</TD><TD><img src=http://www.hbgk.dk/terning.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales indeed <img src=smile.gif ALT=" ![]() Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Phantom Rider
Posts: 1073</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales What is Nienor called in BoLT? (Before she met Glorund!) http://pub39.ezboard.com/brohan73264Rohan</a>~http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiThe Barrow-Downs</a>~http://pub75.ezboard.com/barda61763The Tolkien Discussion Board</a>~ Mourn not overmuch! Mighty was the Fallen!</p>
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Rohan All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not whither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken: The crownless again shall be king. -The Riddle of Strider |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton
Posts: 47</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Nienóri Don't we just adore Turin and Co.? </p> |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Phantom Rider
Posts: 1076</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales It seems that way! <img src=smile.gif ALT=" ![]() You are correct! http://pub39.ezboard.com/brohan73264Rohan</a>~http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiThe Barrow-Downs</a>~http://pub75.ezboard.com/barda61763The Tolkien Discussion Board</a>~ Mourn not overmuch! Mighty was the Fallen!</p>
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Rohan All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not whither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken: The crownless again shall be king. -The Riddle of Strider |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton
Posts: 50</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Since I've got BoLT2 in front of me still, here's another one from that book. Who did Tinwelint say was the only one who had "especial claim to so much as a handful" of the hoard of Glorund, and why was he entitled to it? </p> |
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Posts: 1077</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Turin because he slew Glorund? http://pub39.ezboard.com/brohan73264Rohan</a>~http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiThe Barrow-Downs</a>~http://pub75.ezboard.com/barda61763The Tolkien Discussion Board</a>~ Mourn not overmuch! Mighty was the Fallen!</p>
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Rohan All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not whither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken: The crownless again shall be king. -The Riddle of Strider |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit
Posts: 51</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Close, but not quite. </p> |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit
Posts: 52</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Don't give up, you're close! </p> |
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Posts: 1095</TD><TD><img src=http://www.jrrtolkien.org.uk/Graphics/Buttons/flamme1.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Turin because he was Tinwelint's foster son? [i]http://pub39.ezboard.com/brohan73264Rohan</a>~!~http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiThe Barrow-Downs</a>~!~http://pub75.ezboard.com/barda61763The Tolkien Discussion Board</a></p>
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Rohan All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not whither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken: The crownless again shall be king. -The Riddle of Strider |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit
Posts: 53</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales You were closer before. Remember, this is after Glorund is dead, so Turin is also dead. </p> |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit
Posts: 55</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Well I hate to see this thread die. Here is the answer, within the opening paragraphs of BoLT's The Nauglafring: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Then said Tinwelint, for neither was he untouched by the golden spell: "Nay then, know ye not that this gold belongs to the kindred of the Elves in common, for the Rodothlim who won it from the earth long time ago are no more, and no one has especial claim to so much as a handful save only Úrin by reason of his son Túrin, who slew the Worm, the robber of the Elves; yet Túrin is dead and Úrin will have none of it; and Túrin was my man."<hr></blockquote> The answer I was looking for was Húrin (or Úrin). Theodred, you answered Túrin, and that's partly right. So you're up. <img src=smile.gif ALT=" ![]() </p> |
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Posts: 1145</TD><TD><img src=http://www.jrrtolkien.org.uk/Graphics/Buttons/flamme1.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: History of Middle Earth and Unfinished Tales Who was Tar-Ancalime's husband? Who was her son? Who was her grandson? <marquee>http://pub39.ezboard.com/brohan73264Rohan!</a>~http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiThe Barrow-Downs!</a>~http://pub75.ezboard.com/barda61763The Tolkien Discussion Board!</a>~http://pub89.ezboard.com/btolkienrealmTolkien Realm!</a>~Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising, he rode singing in the sun, sword unsheathing. Hope he rekindled, and in hope ended; over death, over dread, over doom lifted out of loss, out of life, unto long glory! </marquee></p>
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12 years?
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???
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Her husband was Hallacar, her son was Tar-Anarion, and her grandson was Tar-Surion.
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would somebody like to continue the thread???
hmm I could for example ask: Who was Andreth in love with???
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Aegnor?
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You are correct Turambar - go on [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Hey Turambar? Seems like you have forgotten this one [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Sorry - let me dig out my books and find a good question . . .
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not tooo hard, please [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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A smith of Gondolin created something that was said to bring healing - who was he and what did he make?
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I guess you are thinking about the Elessar, made by either Enedhil or Celebrimbor depending on what your belief is... both are creditet for its making and both were at some point said to be from Gondolin.
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Exactly .
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Cirdan is in HoME said to be 'akin' to which two Elf lords?
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I can't recall the names that were mentioned, but I'd guess they're Elwe and Olwe.
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Thats correct Elenhin - he was always credited for being akin to Olwe, but later writings published in PoME names Elwe too.
Go on please [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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According to an Elven "fairy-tale" or a children's story, what were the names of the first six Elves that awoke at Cuivienen?
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In which case, Cirdan would also be akin to Elmo, Olwe/Elwe's brother.
BTW, this question is killing me!
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After reading the tale of Aldarion and Erendis in UT, I've come up with the answer of nine years. 3 years, the normal bethrothal, and 6 years gone to the sea after that... I hope I'm right. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] |
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Hint: One, two, three.
Hm.. as there have been no answers and a long time, I'll ask another one. (You may still answer the first one as well) What do the words Celbin and Moerbin refer to? (Answers to both of my questions can be found in the same text..) |
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If we're unable to answer the first one, it seems no one will be able to answer the second one either, since they're from the same text! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Well... to help all the others i think Moerbin is dark-elves or something like that... - but I'm not sure [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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No you're thinking of Moriquendi, I have never heard of Moerbin or Celbin and that's very strange to me...
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Imin, Tata, Enel are the only names given in Quendi and Eldar in PoME. However, there is an earlier version if I am not mistaken that has it as being Ingwë, Finwë, and Elwë as being the oldest. As for the words Celbin and Moerbin; Celbin means elves of the great Journey and Moerbin i assume means one of the Avari.
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"has it as being Ingwë, Finwë, and Elwë as being the oldest."
That was my first thought, but thought there might be more - Elmo, Olwë, Lenwë? Perhaps Durelen has it. I'm not all the way through HoME yet.
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Durelen got it (almost [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]).
I was indeed referring to the names mentioned in "Quendi and Eldar" (which is in WotJ): Imin and Iminye, Tata and Tatie, Enel and Enelye. The names meant one, two and three in both masculine and feminine forms. Celbin and Moerbin were originally related to the Qyenya words Calaquendi and Moriquendi, but their meanings were different. Celbin meant those who were fighting Morgoth in the War of the Jewels (both Elves and Men) and Moerbin meant the opposite (Elves and Men not fighting against Morgoth; Avari and Easterlings for example). |
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So my turn? Well I will go anyway. What was Alboin's name in Numenor?
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I can see this one need's a hint, it isn't Elendil, but...
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Anarion?
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