New quiz thread - 1 Jun 2000

[galpsi]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Right, I told you that it has been about ten years. I'm surprised I get as many right as I do. Nevertheless, I think that it is about his being a Black Numenorean. They sailed to ME in the 2nd (?) age and worshipped Sauron. Surely that's not kosher? I guess they sailed to ME because they couldn't sail to Aman and that was where my garbled memory of the Ban came from. So is Sauron worship the broken-rule in question?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Nope. He did something at the parley before the Black Gate that shouldn't oughta done. Against the rules. Think hard. This one is tricky and not readily apparent.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

I am not at all certain that this is what you are after; but two things occur to me.
1) The Lieutenant doesn't acknowldge the status of those he deals with (especially Elessar), nevertheless,
2) he offers a treaty which, if he was to ratify it, might be understood to aggrandize his claims. That is, I'm not sure that Elessar, even as King, would be entitled to ratify Sauron's claim to all lands east of the Anduin (for instance: Thingol's, Dain's, or Bard's, much less Rhun, Khand, etc.). Now arguably, Legolas and Gimli might have been proxy to the agreement on behalf of their peoples (though nobody represents Bard). Or, arguably, Elessar was only agreeing not to contest Sauron's claim; that might be legitimate diplomacy. He had, however, only a dubious right to negotiate Rivendell, Lorien, the Havens, the dwarves of the Blue Mountains, etc., into fealty to Sauron (as per clause two).
Of course, I'm not at all sure what the diplomatic protocols of ME are. But these do seem like logical discrepancies to me.

(the disappointingly crappy-looking scan is supposed to be the mouth of sauron)

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

The only thing thats occurs to me is the incident where Aragorn and The Mouth of Sauron have a staring competition. The Mouth draws back and says something like,

&quot;I am an ambassador and may not be assailed!&quot;,

to which Gandalf replies (more or less),

&quot;Where such laws hold. It is also the custom for ambassadors to use less insolence.&quot;

Are you talking about his bad manners, R.?

Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Alright, alright. I can see this question is causing people to think in too many different direction. Galpsi's answer is much deeper than my tired mind could ever go to search for a question, but Taimar's is getting closer.

This is the answer: &quot;The Mouth of Sauron dared utter the name 'Sauron'.&quot; That is expressly forbidden.
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Sauron does not use Elf-runes. - Legolas<hr></blockquote>
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Neither does he use his right name. nor permit it to be spelt or spoken. - Aragorn<hr></blockquote>


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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Kittle says I'm deep, the flatterer. Or is he just trying to atone for that shameful Hobbiton incident?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Maybe he means deep, as a yellowish puddle is deep?

What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?</p>

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The B.S. is definitely getting deep! Somebody ask a question!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Don't you have to ask again since nobody got it right? Or Taimar, because he was closest.

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Re: While on the topic...

Anyone who has a question may ask.

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Re: While on the topic...

Are there chickens in ME. How do we know?

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Re: While on the topic...

Yes. Bilbo pulled some cold chicken out of his pantry for the Dwarves IIRC.

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Re: While on the topic...

Excellent; I was thinking of the @#%$crow at Minas Tirith. Ask us!

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Re: While on the topic...

I never thought about the feathered alarm clock.

Why was Hurin called Hurin of the Keys?

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Re: While on the topic...

Didn't he keep the keys to Rath Dinen?
And that's the second time your @#%$-sucking server wouldn't let me type that innocent synonym.

</p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000201>galpsi</A> at: 7/6/00 5:14:41 pm

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

That is close ....enough to give you credit. Hurin, Dunadan of Gondor c. War of the Ring, was the Warder of the Keys of Minas Tirith.

Ask us, &amp;@#%y one.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bloody.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Remember the lock-holes, the storages-smials at Michel Delving? What were they? Where were they? And what is the significance of the name &quot;Michel Delving?&quot;

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

The lockholes is where criminals in the Shire were locked up - the 'federal' prison, so to speak. They were in Michel Delving, as your question clearly indicated <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> .

I had to look Michel Delving up. And I found some interesting things. Michel is actually 'old English' for great. Tolkien used it when translating from the original Hobbitish. Delving is of course a modern word for 'digging' or 'excavation'. So Michel Delving = great excavation (or any more appropriate synonym.)

What is more interesting is the word ' Galpsi', which is the reduced form of the word Galbasi. That, of course, is Hobbitish for 'stalker'.

Wait ...uh....I meant to say that that is the Hobbitish word for 'Gamgee'. So our pal Galpsi is related to Sam!!

I knew this at one time but had forgotten it.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

I also wanted to know where Michel Delving was, but your misunderstanding of that part of my poorly-phrased question was understandable. Otherwise you are altogether correct. Ask us!

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Naw....reword it....or help me out in some way. Were you meaning what Farthing it was in, or what?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Yes, that was what I had meant, but you need not have followed up. I was perfectly satisfied with your interpretation and with your answer. <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> Ask us!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Name four varieties of Pipeweed.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: While on the topic...

Longbottom Leaf, Old Toby, Southern Star and Hornblower

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Milestone

Congratulations to whoever it was that got the 100th post in this topic, first time that's happened so far.

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You are correct, galpsi. Sorry I took so long to reply. burrahobbits 100 post comment got in my eyes <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Under which King was the Dome of Stars razed?
(hint: not a good time in Osgiliath...)

</p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000201>galpsi</A> at: 7/28/00 3:22:11 am

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Correct

Didn`t this happen during the aftermath of the Great Plague? If so, the king I think would have probably been Tarondor.

Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p>

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No, I'm afraid not. <img src=frown.gif ALT="">

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This happened during Eldacar's rule and the Kin-Strife. The palantir there was lost, too.

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Yes. Ask us!

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Who told how he had heard that Bag End was full of jewels, and where was he from? (gee, I hope I'm remembering this right)

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: LotR : Bag End gossip

A hobbit from Michel Delving said this at the Ivy Bush only to get his comeuppance from the Gaffer.

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That is correct! Your turn....
Galpsi may be gone a few days, so if anyone has question, please ask it here.

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There are too many open quiz threads.
I am closing this one.

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