6 Degrees of Separation - Page 29 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-17-2005, 05:04 AM

Lindo, your first guess was simply atrocious.

Formendacil, I'm not usually allowing the use of items unless I specifically say so (Lindo should know this by now

), so sorry.

Lindo (again),

. Your turn.

Lindolirian · 03-17-2005, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Lindo, your first guess was simply atrocious.

Yeah, I'm glad this a new page, now maybe it won't be seen by many people.

Rog-> Dudo Baggins

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-17-2005, 09:45 PM

Rog -> Tuor -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Frodo (-> Drogo) -> Dudo Baggins

Lindolirian · 03-18-2005, 06:27 AM

I've got a quicker way!

Hint: Anyone who has been to Gondolin knows everyone from Gondolin because it's such an isolated place.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-20-2005, 08:51 PM

Rog -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Frodo (-> Drogo) -> Dudo Baggins

Formendacil · 03-21-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindolirian

I've got a quicker way!

Hint: Anyone who has been to Gondolin knows everyone from Gondolin because it's such an isolated place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Rog -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Frodo (-> Drogo) -> Dudo Baggins

I rather suspect that Lindo was suggesting this:

Rog-> Glorfindel-> Frodo (->Drogo)-> Dudo Baggins

Not that it matters much, anyway...

Lindolirian · 03-21-2005, 02:29 PM

Because you got it right, Formendacil!

Formendacil · 03-21-2005, 04:54 PM

Oh dear...

Surely this doesn't mean I don't have to come up with another!

Lindolirian · 03-21-2005, 05:10 PM

Surely it does! It's by far the toughest part of the game too.

Formendacil · 03-21-2005, 10:09 PM

Thuringwethil -> Hob Hayward

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-25-2005, 10:11 PM

Thuringwethil -> Lúthien (-> Thingol) -> Galadriel -> Sam -> Hob Hayward

Formendacil · 03-26-2005, 03:46 PM

Not what I was looking for, but it appears to be all in order. Guess you're next.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-27-2005, 01:34 AM

Bombadil -> Borin

Formendacil · 03-27-2005, 05:29 PM

Bombadil-> Frodo-> Bilbo-> Thorin-> Thror-> Borin

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-28-2005, 02:51 AM

Looks like you'll have to do that thing you dread.

Your turn.

Formendacil · 03-28-2005, 11:58 AM

Gorbag-> Morgoth

The Elf-warrior · 03-28-2005, 10:35 PM

Gorbag ->A Nazgul ->Sauron- >Morgoth

Formendacil · 03-29-2005, 01:01 AM

Ouch...

I was afraid someone would guess that. I had a different idea in mind, and wondered if anyone would guess it, but I suppose that we have to say that it's correct. All the evidence would suggest that Gorbag, a captain at Minas Morgul, knew the Nazgul. Still, I have another way... Anyways, it would seem that you, Elf-warrior, have got it.

Still, out of curiosity, can anyone come up with another way?

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-29-2005, 02:37 AM

Strictly speaking you'd be within your rights not accpeting the answer, Formendacil - on the basis of the following note to the original game rules:

Quote:

Extra Note: Try not to use Gandalf, Saurman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody.

Lindolirian · 03-29-2005, 10:34 AM

Gorbag-> (Ufthak)-> Shelob-> Ungoliant-> Morgoth
Is that the one you wanted?

Formendacil · 03-29-2005, 01:22 PM

That's a very impressive one, which I hadn't even considered. But as far as I know, Gorbag never met Ufthak (it's Shagrat who tells the story: "Don't you know anything? This fellow ain't dead). At least, I'm pretty sure that's the case.

Also, I don't think that Gorbag ever met Shelob. For one thing, the Morgul orks seem rather ignorant concerning her, and also he's still alive, right?

I've got a rather different train of thought, one which depended on Sauron (so I don't feel right disapproving the above post), but which doesn't assume that Gorbag and the Nazgul ever met (even though it may seem like a logical assumption).

*Thinks to self: SO should have made it Shagrat and not Gorbag.

Lindolirian · 04-02-2005, 02:52 PM

Gorbag-> Shagrat-> (Frodo's mithril coat)-> Mouth of Sauron-> Sauron-> Morgoth

Formendacil · 04-02-2005, 08:16 PM

I was going with just people...

And, to clarify in case anyone was confused, when I said that Shagrat would have been preferable to Gorbag, I was thinking of the starting point. Shagrat and Gorbag each had contact with the next link, but unlike Gorbag, Shagrat doesn't seem as likely to have made contact with a Nazgul (which was the monkey-wrench of the Gorbag scenario).

arcticstorm · 04-04-2005, 07:29 PM

Gorbag-Frodo-witch king-Sauron-Morgoth

Formendacil · 04-04-2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcticstorm

Gorbag-Frodo-witch king-Sauron-Morgoth

Ahh!!!

I TOTALLY forgot that....

No matter where I go, I can't escape those Nazgul!

You're more on to what I was thinking (and a somewhat easier way than I was thinking), so I'll give it to you and get out of the limelight.

What I WAS thinking though was:

Gorbab-> Frodo-> Elrond-> (Celebrimbor->) Sauron-> Morgoth. As noted, it uses Sauron.

I SO can't believe I didn't think about the Nazgul here....

arcticstorm · 04-06-2005, 06:45 PM

Shelob -> Beorn
no hobbits, Sauron, Gandalf, or Saruman

Fingolfin II · 04-07-2005, 08:18 PM

Shelob -> Gollum -> Aragorn -> Gloin -> Beorn?

arcticstorm · 04-08-2005, 03:46 PM

sorry, I consider gollum a hobit
there is another way to go about this

Formendacil · 04-08-2005, 05:42 PM

Shelob-> Ungoliant-> Balrog-> Gimli-> Gloin-> Beorn

arcticstorm · 04-11-2005, 03:47 PM

That is not the way I had in mind, and I am not sure if all the balrogs were at the freeing of MElkor from Ungolient, I know that atleast some of them were, but I am not sure if the MOria Balrog was, if you have a source that can show me otherwise please do so.

NightKnight · 04-12-2005, 08:50 AM

Shelob -> Ufthak -> Shagrat -> Mouth of Sauron -> Gimli -> Gloin -> Beorn

arcticstorm · 04-12-2005, 02:05 PM

I do not know of a place where it says that Shagrat actually met the mouth of sauron, he could have brought the mail hirt and other items to Barad-dur and someone else could have delivered them to the mouth.

Formendacil · 04-12-2005, 06:45 PM

Shelob-> Ungoliant-> Morgoth-> Yavanna-> Radagast-> Beorn?

arcticstorm · 04-13-2005, 11:29 AM

you got it, your go Formendacil

Formendacil · 04-13-2005, 11:40 AM

Grishnahk-> Turin II (Steward of Gondor)

No Hobbits or Maiar allowed.

The Elf-warrior · 04-13-2005, 08:07 PM

Grishnahk -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Ecthelion II -> Turin II

Formendacil · 04-13-2005, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

Grishnahk -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Ecthelion II -> Turin II

Grishnakh and Eomer never met. Close though!

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-14-2005, 05:40 AM

Grishnakh -> Ugluk -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Ecthelion II -> Turin II

Formendacil · 04-14-2005, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Grishnakh -> Ugluk -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Ecthelion II -> Turin II

Exactly right! Your turn, Nilpaurion.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-15-2005, 09:38 PM

Gildor -> Gwindor

03-17-2005, 05:04 AM	#1121
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Now, for my comments. Lindo, your first guess was simply atrocious. Formendacil, I'm not usually allowing the use of items unless I specifically say so (Lindo should know this by now ), so sorry. Lindo (again), . Your turn. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-17-2005, 09:45 PM	#1123
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Rog -> Tuor -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Frodo (-> Drogo) -> Dudo Baggins __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-18-2005, 06:27 AM	#1124
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I've got a quicker way! Hint: Anyone who has been to Gondolin knows everyone from Gondolin because it's such an isolated place. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-20-2005, 08:51 PM	#1125
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	OK, so . . . Rog -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Frodo (-> Drogo) -> Dudo Baggins __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-21-2005, 02:29 PM	#1127
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	But it does matter... Because you got it right, Formendacil! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-21-2005, 04:54 PM	#1128
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Oh dear... Surely this doesn't mean I don't have to come up with another! __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-21-2005, 05:10 PM	#1129
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Surely it does! It's by far the toughest part of the game too. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-21-2005, 10:09 PM	#1130
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Well, in that case: Thuringwethil -> Hob Hayward __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-25-2005, 10:11 PM	#1131
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Thuringwethil -> Lúthien (-> Thingol) -> Galadriel -> Sam -> Hob Hayward __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-26-2005, 03:46 PM	#1132
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Not what I was looking for, but it appears to be all in order. Guess you're next. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-27-2005, 01:34 AM	#1133
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Thanks! Bombadil -> Borin __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-27-2005, 05:29 PM	#1134
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Bombadil-> Frodo-> Bilbo-> Thorin-> Thror-> Borin __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-28-2005, 02:51 AM	#1135
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Hmmm . . . looks good. Looks like you'll have to do that thing you dread. Your turn. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-28-2005, 11:58 AM	#1136
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Gorbag-> Morgoth __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-28-2005, 10:35 PM	#1137
The Elf-warrior Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Virginia. Posts: 952	Gorbag ->A Nazgul ->Sauron- >Morgoth __________________ Fenris Wolf: WW LXXX.

03-29-2005, 01:01 AM	#1138
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Ouch... I was afraid someone would guess that. I had a different idea in mind, and wondered if anyone would guess it, but I suppose that we have to say that it's correct. All the evidence would suggest that Gorbag, a captain at Minas Morgul, knew the Nazgul. Still, I have another way... Anyways, it would seem that you, Elf-warrior, have got it. Still, out of curiosity, can anyone come up with another way? __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-29-2005, 10:34 AM	#1140
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Out of curiosity... Gorbag-> (Ufthak)-> Shelob-> Ungoliant-> Morgoth Is that the one you wanted? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-29-2005, 01:22 PM	#1141
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	That's a very impressive one, which I hadn't even considered. But as far as I know, Gorbag never met Ufthak (it's Shagrat who tells the story: "Don't you know anything? This fellow ain't dead). At least, I'm pretty sure that's the case. Also, I don't think that Gorbag ever met Shelob. For one thing, the Morgul orks seem rather ignorant concerning her, and also he's still alive, right? I've got a rather different train of thought, one which depended on Sauron (so I don't feel right disapproving the above post), but which doesn't assume that Gorbag and the Nazgul ever met (even though it may seem like a logical assumption). *Thinks to self: SO should have made it Shagrat and not Gorbag. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

04-02-2005, 02:52 PM	#1142
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Trying to use Shagrat and Sauron... Gorbag-> Shagrat-> (Frodo's mithril coat)-> Mouth of Sauron-> Sauron-> Morgoth __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

04-02-2005, 08:16 PM	#1143
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	I was going with just people... And, to clarify in case anyone was confused, when I said that Shagrat would have been preferable to Gorbag, I was thinking of the starting point. Shagrat and Gorbag each had contact with the next link, but unlike Gorbag, Shagrat doesn't seem as likely to have made contact with a Nazgul (which was the monkey-wrench of the Gorbag scenario). __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

04-04-2005, 07:29 PM	#1144
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	Gorbag-Frodo-witch king-Sauron-Morgoth Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:27 PM.

04-06-2005, 06:45 PM	#1146
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	Shelob -> Beorn no hobbits, Sauron, Gandalf, or Saruman Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:28 PM.

04-07-2005, 08:18 PM	#1147
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Shelob -> Gollum -> Aragorn -> Gloin -> Beorn? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

04-08-2005, 03:46 PM	#1148
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	sorry, I consider gollum a hobit there is another way to go about this Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:29 PM.

04-08-2005, 05:42 PM	#1149
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	I should probably avoid this thread, but.... Shelob-> Ungoliant-> Balrog-> Gimli-> Gloin-> Beorn __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

04-11-2005, 03:47 PM	#1150
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	That is not the way I had in mind, and I am not sure if all the balrogs were at the freeing of MElkor from Ungolient, I know that atleast some of them were, but I am not sure if the MOria Balrog was, if you have a source that can show me otherwise please do so. Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:28 PM.

04-12-2005, 08:50 AM	#1151
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Shelob -> Ufthak -> Shagrat -> Mouth of Sauron -> Gimli -> Gloin -> Beorn __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

04-12-2005, 02:05 PM	#1152
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	I do not know of a place where it says that Shagrat actually met the mouth of sauron, he could have brought the mail hirt and other items to Barad-dur and someone else could have delivered them to the mouth. Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:29 PM.

04-12-2005, 06:45 PM	#1153
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Shelob-> Ungoliant-> Morgoth-> Yavanna-> Radagast-> Beorn? __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

04-13-2005, 11:29 AM	#1154
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	you got it, your go Formendacil Last edited by arcticstorm; 05-06-2005 at 01:29 PM.

04-13-2005, 11:40 AM	#1155
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Oh dear... Now I've got to think of something... Grishnahk-> Turin II (Steward of Gondor) No Hobbits or Maiar allowed. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

04-13-2005, 08:07 PM	#1156
The Elf-warrior Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Virginia. Posts: 952	Grishnahk -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Ecthelion II -> Turin II __________________ Fenris Wolf: WW LXXX.

04-14-2005, 05:40 AM	#1158
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Grishnakh -> Ugluk -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Ecthelion II -> Turin II __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-15-2005, 09:38 PM	#1160
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Thanks! Gildor -> Gwindor __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...