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Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-17-2005, 09:43 AM

Well, I'll hazard a guess here, half laughingly:

#1 Museums? The hobbits had one at Michel Delving, as far as I know they were the only ones. Memory's daughters were the Muses... but there's no Greek letter "Um"

Sophia

Turambar · 02-17-2005, 10:46 AM

1. Museum

2. Adorn

3. Lambe

4. Lassemista

5. Oldbuck

6. Radbug

7. Nevrast

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 11:47 AM

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5. What may be passed by the irresponsible, when aged, became a local leader.

Responsible people do not pass the buck.

Aged is old.

So the answer must be Oldbuck.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 11:50 AM

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6. Suffered an exophthalmic demise.

Isn't it Radbug the Orc who has his eyes gauged out?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 11:53 AM

Sorry for the consecutive posting - working these out as I go.

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7. Taverns around the heedless one's original home?

Assuming that the heedless one is Turgon, who did not heed Tuor's warning, his original home was Nevrast, an anagram of "Taverns".

I'm guessing that the Password is Mallorn.

Turambar · 02-17-2005, 11:53 AM

Thank you, Saucepan Man. FYI, Radbug's eyes were squeezed out (hence, "exophthalmic").

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 11:55 AM

Which makes #2 Adorn - a river and a synonym for "decorate".

Turambar · 02-17-2005, 11:59 AM

MALLORN is the Password, and Nevrast is correct for #7.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 12:45 PM

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3. Bedlam began on the 27th, when he spoke in tongues.

Contained within "Bedlam began" is Lambe, which means tongue and is (I assume) the 27th symbol of the Tengwar alphabet.

Turambar · 02-17-2005, 01:45 PM

Correct again.

The last one is perhaps a bit obscure, but it's in LotR and, as I said, is a scramble.

EDIT: perhaps felled would be more accurate than fallen.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 02:34 PM

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4. Sat aimless about the silent fallen one in the woods?

Then it must be Lassemista, one of the rowan trees of Quickbeam's home felled by Saruman's Orcs, and an anagram of "Sat aimless".

Turambar · 02-17-2005, 05:34 PM

Great job, Saucepan Man!

And Sophia.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-17-2005, 09:01 PM

Thank you Turambar.

A bit different this one. Each clue is made up of the first letter or letters of a word or phrase associated with a number. You need to solve each clue to find the number associated with it. To give a non-Middle-earth example, if the clue were HITD this could stand for Hours in the Day, in which case the answer would be 24. All the clues below are Middle-earth-related.

Once you have all the numbers, you need to add them all up to produce another number. The password is the clue that would be associated with this answer (ie the first letter(s) of a word or phrase associated with it).

Are you still with me? Oh well, let's see how it goes.

1) RFEK
2) ROTW
3) SOF
4) BR
5) TOV
6) HOTE
7) GOG
8) FS
9) S

Fire away!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-17-2005, 10:45 PM

#1 RFEK-> Rings for the Elven Kings (under the sky), 3?

#3 SOF -> Sons of Feanor, which would be Seven?

#6 HOTE -> Houses of the Edain, 3?

#9 S -> Silmarils, 3?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-17-2005, 10:56 PM

2. The only thing I recognise is "of the West."

3. Sons of Fëanor - 7

5. Trees of Valinor - 2

7. Gates of Gondolin - 7

Celebrian · 02-17-2005, 11:01 PM

That's adding up--->Council of Elrond?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-18-2005, 04:13 AM

#4 BR -> Black Riders, 9?

#2 ROTW -> may either be Rulers of the World? (in which case I'd say 1, Manwe or Eru), or Rulers of the West? (in which case I'd go for 9, the Aratar)

The numbers I'm totalling up now (minus my weird guesses for number 2) = 34. Inclusive of my weird guess for 2 = 43. I'm wondering whether the secret total number might be 50, the age of Bilbo and Frodo at the beginning of their respective journeys? (AOBAF -> Age of Bilbo and Frodo?

)

Saucy, don't quite know what kind of format you're looking for as a password.... of course, don't know if my guesses are right either

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 04:53 AM

1) Rings for Elven-kings = 3
2) ROTW
3) Sons of Feanor = 7
4) Black Riders = 9
5) Trees Of Valinor = 2
6) Houses Of The Edain = 3
7) Gates Of Gondolin = 7
8) FS
9) Silmarils = 3

Glad to see that you've got the idea.

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Originally Posted by Sophia

Saucy, don't quite know what kind of format you're looking for as a password

To use my previous example, if the numbers added up to 24, the Password might be HITD (Hours in the Day).

You have to get the correct letters.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-18-2005, 01:56 PM

#2 Rods of the Wizards? 5?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 02:39 PM

1) Rings for Elven-kings = 3
2) Rods of the Wizards = 5
3) Sons of Feanor = 7
4) Black Riders = 9
5) Trees Of Valinor = 2
6) Houses Of The Edain = 3
7) Gates Of Gondolin = 7
8) FS
9) Silmarils = 3

One more to go ...

Celebrian · 02-18-2005, 04:11 PM

8) First Shirriff?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 05:25 PM

'Fraid not.

Firefoot · 02-18-2005, 07:35 PM

Hmm... Farthing Stone? 3?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 07:40 PM

1) Rings for Elven-kings = 3
2) Rods of the Wizards = 5
3) Sons of Feanor = 7
4) Black Riders = 9
5) Trees Of Valinor = 2
6) Houses Of The Edain = 3
7) Gates Of Gondolin = 7
8) Farthing Stone = 3
9) Silmarils = 3

Now you need to find the Password.

Turambar · 02-18-2005, 07:45 PM

GO (Gimli's orcs)?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2005, 07:48 PM

You're on the right track.

Turambar · 02-19-2005, 07:08 AM

OKBG (Orcs Killed By Gimli)? Anything along that line?

P.s. this was a great puzzle idea.

Encaitare · 02-19-2005, 09:39 AM

TATLTUAE: The Answer To Life, The Universe, And Everything.

Turambar · 02-19-2005, 10:24 AM

Of course!

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-19-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Turambar

OKBG (Orcs Killed By Gimli)? Anything along that line?

Very much along that line. But they weren't necessarily all Orcs ...

Turambar · 02-19-2005, 12:48 PM

EKBGAHD (Enemies Killed By Gimli At Helms Deep)?

I must say I like Encaitare's answer.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-19-2005, 07:10 PM

Turambar, I think that I should give it to you or this could go on for a while. My answer was KBG (Kills By Gimli), which was incorporated in your last two answers.

So the thread is yours.

Although it was a close thing with Enca.

Turambar · 02-20-2005, 07:24 AM

Actually, Sophia and Nilpaurion had all the clue answers, so either of you would like to go, please do.

If not, I'll try to come up with something.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-21-2005, 10:38 PM

You got the password. You go.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-22-2005, 02:51 AM

"I second that motion."

We like a challenge.

Turambar · 02-22-2005, 06:01 PM

Ok, then. All cryptic:

1. SHAGRAT - (Mordor’s tobacco enthusiast?)
2. ORALD - (Rohan’s old one got confused, and became an enigma by another name.)
3. His glee curable, the warrior composed an elegy to his friend.
4. MANDOS - (What will Man do subsequent to death - did even this one know the answer?)
5. His eye sees Teleri from out the dim past,
The first rider, we know, is one that must fast,
His lore less arcane than wizards forbode,
His might, as if Denethor on Gil-galad rode.
6. TIW - (Even with his backward intelligence, he invented letters.)
7. HASUFEL - (To answer your question, No, I hasn’t – the horse bore me aloft.)

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Password: SOLMATH (guessed by The Saucepan Man)

Celebrian · 02-22-2005, 07:19 PM

7) Aragorn, who borrowed Hasufel?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-22-2005, 07:27 PM

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1. Mordor’s tobacco enthusiast?

"Shag" is a kind of tobacco and I suppose "rat" might be another word for an enthusiast, producing Shagrat, an Orc of Mordor.

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2. Rohan’s old one got confused, and became an enigma by another name.

Taking the "R" from Rohan and "a" (ie one) and mixing them with "old" gives Orald, another name for that well-known enigma, Tom Bombadil.

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4. What will Man do subsequent to death - did even this one know the answer?

Mandos probably didn't know the answer, but he is to be found in "will Man do subsequent".

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6. Even with his backward intelligence, he invented letters.

Another word for intelligence is "wit" which, when written backwards, is Tiw - another name for the Tengwar alphabet.

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7. To answer your question, No, I hasn’t – the horse bore me aloft.

The question must be "Has you fell?" and the horse, Hasufel.

Is the password Solmath?

Turambar · 02-22-2005, 07:38 PM

I actually thought that those were somewhat tough.

Saucepan Man is Oll Korrect.

Celebrian · 02-22-2005, 07:52 PM

5) Alduya? (Q. treesday), Sindarin form, Orgaladhad? I've still got Mardi Gras in the head, ugh

02-17-2005, 09:43 AM	#1041
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	*chuckles* Well, I'll hazard a guess here, half laughingly: #1 Museums? The hobbits had one at Michel Delving, as far as I know they were the only ones. Memory's daughters were the Muses... but there's no Greek letter "Um" Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

02-17-2005, 10:46 AM	#1042
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Correct, Sophia :) 1. Museum 2. Adorn 3. Lambe 4. Lassemista 5. Oldbuck 6. Radbug 7. Nevrast __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 02-17-2005 at 05:35 PM.

02-17-2005, 11:53 AM	#1046
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	All three correct! Thank you, Saucepan Man. FYI, Radbug's eyes were squeezed out (hence, "exophthalmic"). __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 02-17-2005 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Another correct guess by S.M.

02-17-2005, 11:55 AM	#1047
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Whoops - here I go again. Which makes #2 Adorn - a river and a synonym for "decorate". __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-17-2005, 11:59 AM	#1048
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I think I'm caught up now MALLORN is the Password, and Nevrast is correct for #7. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-17-2005, 01:45 PM	#1050
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Correct again. The last one is perhaps a bit obscure, but it's in LotR and, as I said, is a scramble. EDIT: perhaps felled would be more accurate than fallen. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-17-2005, 05:34 PM	#1052
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Great job, Saucepan Man! And Sophia. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-17-2005, 09:01 PM	#1053
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	And now for something completely different ... Thank you Turambar. A bit different this one. Each clue is made up of the first letter or letters of a word or phrase associated with a number. You need to solve each clue to find the number associated with it. To give a non-Middle-earth example, if the clue were HITD this could stand for Hours in the Day, in which case the answer would be 24. All the clues below are Middle-earth-related. Once you have all the numbers, you need to add them all up to produce another number. The password is the clue that would be associated with this answer (ie the first letter(s) of a word or phrase associated with it). Are you still with me? Oh well, let's see how it goes. 1) RFEK 2) ROTW 3) SOF 4) BR 5) TOV 6) HOTE 7) GOG 8) FS 9) S Fire away! __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-17-2005, 10:45 PM	#1054
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	guesses #1 RFEK-> Rings for the Elven Kings (under the sky), 3? #3 SOF -> Sons of Feanor, which would be Seven? #6 HOTE -> Houses of the Edain, 3? #9 S -> Silmarils, 3? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me! Last edited by Sophia the Thunder Mistress; 02-17-2005 at 10:58 PM. Reason: and again

02-17-2005, 10:56 PM	#1055
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	First salvo. 2. The only thing I recognise is "of the West." 3. Sons of Fëanor - 7 5. Trees of Valinor - 2 7. Gates of Gondolin - 7 __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-17-2005, 11:01 PM	#1056
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	Wild shot in the dark That's adding up--->Council of Elrond? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

02-18-2005, 04:13 AM	#1057
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	More guess? #4 BR -> Black Riders, 9? #2 ROTW -> may either be Rulers of the World? (in which case I'd say 1, Manwe or Eru), or Rulers of the West? (in which case I'd go for 9, the Aratar) The numbers I'm totalling up now (minus my weird guesses for number 2) = 34. Inclusive of my weird guess for 2 = 43. I'm wondering whether the secret total number might be 50, the age of Bilbo and Frodo at the beginning of their respective journeys? (AOBAF -> Age of Bilbo and Frodo? ) Saucy, don't quite know what kind of format you're looking for as a password.... of course, don't know if my guesses are right either __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me! Last edited by Sophia the Thunder Mistress; 02-18-2005 at 04:23 AM. Reason: add things

02-18-2005, 01:56 PM	#1059
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Been reading CbC again, Saucy? #2 Rods of the Wizards? 5? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

02-18-2005, 02:39 PM	#1060
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Presto! 1) Rings for Elven-kings = 3 2) Rods of the Wizards = 5 3) Sons of Feanor = 7 4) Black Riders = 9 5) Trees Of Valinor = 2 6) Houses Of The Edain = 3 7) Gates Of Gondolin = 7 8) FS 9) Silmarils = 3 One more to go ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-18-2005, 04:11 PM	#1061
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	1 more? 8) First Shirriff?

02-18-2005, 05:25 PM	#1062
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	'Fraid not. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-18-2005, 07:35 PM	#1063
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Hmm... Farthing Stone? 3?

02-18-2005, 07:40 PM	#1064
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Bingo! 1) Rings for Elven-kings = 3 2) Rods of the Wizards = 5 3) Sons of Feanor = 7 4) Black Riders = 9 5) Trees Of Valinor = 2 6) Houses Of The Edain = 3 7) Gates Of Gondolin = 7 8) Farthing Stone = 3 9) Silmarils = 3 Now you need to find the Password. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-18-2005, 07:45 PM	#1065
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	GO (Gimli's orcs)? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-18-2005, 07:48 PM	#1066
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	You're on the right track. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-19-2005, 07:08 AM	#1067
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	OKBG (Orcs Killed By Gimli)? Anything along that line? P.s. this was a great puzzle idea. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-19-2005, 09:39 AM	#1068
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	TATLTUAE: The Answer To Life, The Universe, And Everything.

02-19-2005, 10:24 AM	#1069
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Of course! __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-19-2005, 12:48 PM	#1071
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	EKBGAHD (Enemies Killed By Gimli At Helms Deep)? I must say I like Encaitare's answer. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-19-2005, 07:10 PM	#1072
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	That'll do! Turambar, I think that I should give it to you or this could go on for a while. My answer was KBG (Kills By Gimli), which was incorporated in your last two answers. So the thread is yours. Although it was a close thing with Enca. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-20-2005, 07:24 AM	#1073
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Actually, Sophia and Nilpaurion had all the clue answers, so either of you would like to go, please do. If not, I'll try to come up with something. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-21-2005, 10:38 PM	#1074
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Нет, нет, Турамбар! You got the password. You go. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-22-2005, 02:51 AM	#1075
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	calls for silence "I second that motion." We like a challenge. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

02-22-2005, 06:01 PM	#1076
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	"We like a challenge" Ok, then. All cryptic: 1. SHAGRAT - (Mordor’s tobacco enthusiast?) 2. ORALD - (Rohan’s old one got confused, and became an enigma by another name.) 3. His glee curable, the warrior composed an elegy to his friend. 4. MANDOS - (What will Man do subsequent to death - did even this one know the answer?) 5. His eye sees Teleri from out the dim past, The first rider, we know, is one that must fast, His lore less arcane than wizards forbode, His might, as if Denethor on Gil-galad rode. 6. TIW - (Even with his backward intelligence, he invented letters.) 7. HASUFEL - (To answer your question, No, I hasn’t – the horse bore me aloft.) --------------------------- Password: SOLMATH (guessed by The Saucepan Man) __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 02-22-2005 at 07:51 PM.

02-22-2005, 07:19 PM	#1077
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	the poetry is intriguing 7) Aragorn, who borrowed Hasufel? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

02-22-2005, 07:38 PM	#1079
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I actually thought that those were somewhat tough. Saucepan Man is Oll Korrect. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-22-2005, 07:52 PM	#1080
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	attempting the poem 5) Alduya? (Q. treesday), Sindarin form, Orgaladhad? I've still got Mardi Gras in the head, ugh