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Urwen · 07-24-2020, 05:35 AM

1. Alternate Universe = AU = Gold?
6. Silver?

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 07:00 AM

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2. Sword (anagram of WORDS)?

Nope.

'Turn' isn't an anagram indicator, possible for the first time ever.

But:

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1. Alternate Universe = AU = Gold?
6. Silver?

Yes to gold, no to silver.

GOLD - No, I don't mean Alternate Universe
2. - Weapons on which graphs turn (these ones are red)
3. - Stonework that pulls you from the mud
4. - Number one deus ex machina (now featuring heavy metal)
5. - I would tell you the answer, but -- just a second.
6. - Air is to corundum as water is to...? (Now, about that crown.)
7. - You! Yes, you! Fire! (& look up into the light)

(Comments in parenthesis relate solely to the theme; they are not useful for the password letter.)

hS

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 07:28 AM

I have an inkling on what the password could be, but I am not sure how to fit the rest of the clues in...

Could 7 be me, that is, ME. Ur for fire and erm...ewn?

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 07:29 AM

And uranium for 6? (mostly for wedging the answer into the password)

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 07:47 AM

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I have an inkling on what the password could be, but I am not sure how to fit the rest of the clues in...

Could 7 be me, that is, ME. Ur for fire and erm...ewn?

Hah, I like your thinking, but no, the answer isn't 'ME' or 'URWEN'. The anser is you, I said that.

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And uranium for 6? (mostly for wedging the answer into the password)

Nope. (Though I bet I could concoct a theory about the role of radioactivity in Middle-earth.)

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Urwen · 07-24-2020, 07:54 AM

If my reasoning is correct, then 7 has the initial R, so Rana, fire in the sky?

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 07:55 AM

Or maybe just UR, for fire?

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 08:03 AM

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If my reasoning is correct, then 7 has the initial R, so Rana, fire in the sky?

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Or maybe just UR, for fire?

Neither of these, and it doesn't start with R.

But the ansewr is you.

hS

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 08:31 AM

Is the answer YOU/U?

Otherwise, I am drawing a blank there...

Unless you mean my avatar, which is Glindur...hanging from a cliff...?

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 08:38 AM

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Is the answer YOU/U?

Otherwise, I am drawing a blank there...

Unless you mean my avatar, which is Glindur...hanging from a cliff...?

No, the answer isn't YOU; the reasoning for U is closer (but not right).

Consider what "Fire!" might mean, other than... y'know, fire.

hS

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 08:47 AM

Well, it could mean 'shoot'...

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 08:48 AM

6. Iron?

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 08:50 AM

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Neither of these, and it doesn't start with R.

But the ansewr is you.

hS

You said here that answer is you, and now you say it isn't...

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 09:07 AM

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Well, it could mean 'shoot'...

It could, couldn't it?

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You said here that answer is you, and now you say it isn't...

Well, of course! The anser is you, but not 'YOU'. Obvs.

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6. Iron?

Nope. Have you looked up what corundum is? Not the sort with chromium, the other kind.

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Urwen · 07-24-2020, 11:09 AM

The one ruby and sapphire are derived from?

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 11:29 AM

Oh, and that torch-bearing Orc at Helm's deep comes to mind. Also Fingon, before shooting an arrow.

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 12:16 PM

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The one ruby and sapphire are derived from?

That's corundum, right enough. Rubies are the ones with chromium in, so ignore those.

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Oh, and that torch-bearing Orc at Helm's deep comes to mind. Also Fingon, before shooting an arrow.

Well, there's something very relevant in the latter example.

hS

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 12:48 PM

I can't see the connection between sapphires and air. I am not that well-versed in chemistry, so any references to that fly right above my head.

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 01:12 PM

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I can't see the connection between sapphires and air. I am not that well-versed in chemistry, so any references to that fly right above my head.

This is no longer a chemistry question; it's straight Tolkien.

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Urwen · 07-24-2020, 01:21 PM

Ah. Adamant?

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 01:45 PM

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Ah. Adamant?

Bingo.

(But not Bingo Bolger-Baggins. That's going too far.)

GOLD - No, I don't mean Alternate Universe
2. - Weapons on which graphs turn (these ones are red)
3. - Stonework that pulls you from the mud
4. - Number one deus ex machina (now featuring heavy metal)
5. - I would tell you the answer, but -- just a second.
ADAMANT - Air is to corundum as water is to...? (Now, about that crown.)
7. - You! Yes, you! Fire! (& look up into the light)

(Comments in parenthesis relate solely to the theme; they are not useful for the password letter.)

I will confess that the source text uses 'diamonds', but I needed the A.

hS

Galadriel55 · 07-24-2020, 02:47 PM

2. Axes, as one Rene would tell you.

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 03:21 PM

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2. Axes, as one Rene would tell you.

Axes it is.

GOLD - No, I don't mean Alternate Universe
AXES - Weapons on which graphs turn (these ones are red)
3. - Stonework that pulls you from the mud
4. - Number one deus ex machina (now featuring heavy metal)
5. - I would tell you the answer, but -- just a second.
ADAMANT - Air is to corundum as water is to...? (Now, about that crown.)
7. - You! Yes, you! Fire! (& look up into the light)

(Comments in parenthesis relate solely to the theme; they are not useful for the password letter.)

hS

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 03:30 PM

What does 5 even mean? That you will tell us the answer? Well, go ahead...

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 03:31 PM

Maybe 5 is WAIT.

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 03:39 PM

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What does 5 even mean? That you will tell us the answer? Well, go ahead...

No, not I WILL tell you the answer - I WOULD tell you the answer. In a second.

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Maybe 5 is WAIT.

It is not.

This one and #7 work along very similar lines.

hS

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 03:56 PM

Maybe a hint or a small nudge in right direction for both could help...?

Huinesoron · 07-24-2020, 04:14 PM

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Maybe a hint or a small nudge in right direction for both could help...?

Um. That's really difficult. Hang on, let me think.

Okay:

I don’t want to spell out the answer.

hS

Galadriel55 · 07-24-2020, 04:31 PM

Mellon!

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 05:12 PM

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Um. That's really difficult. Hang on, let me think.

Okay:

I don’t want to spell out the answer.

hS

Please give one for 7 too...

Urwen · 07-24-2020, 06:10 PM

Wait, maybe Indis. I would = I'd = ID. ID + IN + S = INDIS. So 5 is Indis. Or DIS for same reasons.

Galadriel55 · 07-24-2020, 07:03 PM

Ok, I'll bite and try the pun game for 5. Is the answer "Second"? Or "Axe", a singular form of the second clue?

Huinesoron · 07-25-2020, 01:40 PM

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Please give one for 7 too...

I did. Same clue. I don't want to SPELL out the answer...

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Wait, maybe Indis. I would = I'd = ID. ID + IN + S = INDIS. So 5 is Indis. Or DIS for same reasons.

That's really clever! Possibly cleverer than what I actually did.

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Ok, I'll bite and try the pun game for 5. Is the answer "Second"? Or "Axe", a singular form of the second clue?

Also cleverer than what I actually did.

To be strictly honest, the clue should say 'just the second'.

hS

Urwen · 07-25-2020, 02:59 PM

Still have got no clue...

Galadriel55 · 07-25-2020, 03:11 PM

Lord Voldemort!...

...ummmm. "WOULD"? or perhaps WOOD?

Huinesoron · 07-25-2020, 03:24 PM

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Lord Voldemort!...

...ummmm. "WOULD"? or perhaps WOOD?

... is the second word of the clue.

GOLD - No, I don't mean Alternate Universe
AXES - Weapons on which graphs turn (these ones are red)
3. - Stonework that pulls you from the mud
4. - Number one deus ex machina (now featuring heavy metal)
WOOD - I would tell you the answer, but -- just a second.
ADAMANT - Air is to corundum as water is to...? (Now, about that crown.)
7. - You! Yes, you! Fire! (& look up into the light)

(Comments in parenthesis relate solely to the theme; they are not useful for the password letter.)

hS

Galadriel55 · 07-25-2020, 03:27 PM

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... is the second word of the clue.

I knew there was a "mellon" involved somewhere. Just needed the hints to find the right spot.

That was a good one!

Galadriel55 · 07-25-2020, 03:29 PM

I wonder if 7 is some sort of YEW. Yew bow? I don't recall yew arrows being a thing...

Huinesoron · 07-25-2020, 04:22 PM

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I wonder if 7 is some sort of YEW. Yew bow? I don't recall yew arrows being a thing...

It is YEW (I said it was you!). Tolkien actually just says bows, but... I needed the Y.

GOLD - No, I don't mean Alternate Universe
AXES - Weapons on which graphs turn (these ones are red)
3. - Stonework that pulls you from the mud
4. - Number one deus ex machina (now featuring heavy metal)
WOOD - I would tell you the answer, but -- just a second.
ADAMANT - Air is to corundum as water is to...? (Now, about that crown.)
YEW - You! Yes, you! Fire! (& look up into the light)

(Comments in parenthesis relate solely to the theme; they are not useful for the password letter.)

hS

Galadriel55 · 07-25-2020, 08:39 PM

3. Makes me wanna do a literal pull - but that leaves me with "themd", the form of masonry used by Petty-Dwarves to build the foundations of their hidden houses. A detailed description can be found in HOMEXIII, The Weird Bits.

07-24-2020, 05:35 AM	#10041
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	1. Alternate Universe = AU = Gold? 6. Silver? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 07:28 AM	#10043
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I have an inkling on what the password could be, but I am not sure how to fit the rest of the clues in... Could 7 be me, that is, ME. Ur for fire and erm...ewn? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 07:29 AM	#10044
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	And uranium for 6? (mostly for wedging the answer into the password) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 07:54 AM	#10046
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	If my reasoning is correct, then 7 has the initial R, so Rana, fire in the sky? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 07:55 AM	#10047
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Or maybe just UR, for fire? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 08:31 AM	#10049
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Is the answer YOU/U? Otherwise, I am drawing a blank there... Unless you mean my avatar, which is Glindur...hanging from a cliff...? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 08:47 AM	#10051
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Well, it could mean 'shoot'... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 08:48 AM	#10052
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	6. Iron? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 11:09 AM	#10055
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	The one ruby and sapphire are derived from? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 11:29 AM	#10056
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Oh, and that torch-bearing Orc at Helm's deep comes to mind. Also Fingon, before shooting an arrow. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 12:48 PM	#10058
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	I can't see the connection between sapphires and air. I am not that well-versed in chemistry, so any references to that fly right above my head. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 01:21 PM	#10060
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Ah. Adamant? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 02:47 PM	#10062
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	2. Axes, as one Rene would tell you. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-24-2020, 03:30 PM	#10064
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	What does 5 even mean? That you will tell us the answer? Well, go ahead... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 03:31 PM	#10065
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Maybe 5 is WAIT. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 03:56 PM	#10067
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Maybe a hint or a small nudge in right direction for both could help...? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 04:31 PM	#10069
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Mellon! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-24-2020, 06:10 PM	#10071
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Wait, maybe Indis. I would = I'd = ID. ID + IN + S = INDIS. So 5 is Indis. Or DIS for same reasons. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-24-2020, 07:03 PM	#10072
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Ok, I'll bite and try the pun game for 5. Is the answer "Second"? Or "Axe", a singular form of the second clue? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-25-2020, 02:59 PM	#10074
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Still have got no clue... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-25-2020, 03:11 PM	#10075
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Lord Voldemort!... ...ummmm. "WOULD"? or perhaps WOOD? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-25-2020, 03:29 PM	#10078
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I wonder if 7 is some sort of YEW. Yew bow? I don't recall yew arrows being a thing... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-25-2020, 08:39 PM	#10080
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	3. Makes me wanna do a literal pull - but that leaves me with "themd", the form of masonry used by Petty-Dwarves to build the foundations of their hidden houses. A detailed description can be found in HOMEXIII, The Weird Bits. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera