LOTR Survivor

[mormegil]

Ah you see we are no faction. There is no cohesive bond keeping all of us together. Our agendas cross at times and we make open agreements, we don't plot behind closed doors afraid of those who have 'strange and progressive ideas'. Our agenda has been made open to all and we have no secrets...can you say the same?

[Anguirel]

I think I'd rather say that you've just ducked an inconvenient question, and that if your lot is innocent of PMing concord then I'm a swanship of Alqualonde...

Conclusive evidence of plotting and insidious action (which we're admittedly guilty of too, but at least we don't deny it...)-

Originally Posted by mormegil

Don't make me recruit Kuruharan and incur his wrath

How was that to be done? Osanwe-Kenta? Seems a bit unlikely when communicating with a Dwarf...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Conclusive evidence of plotting and insidious action (which we're admittedly guilty of too, but at least we don't deny it...

You are? I was only making fun when I suggested it. I didn't realise that this sort of thing was actually going on ...

That explains a lot.

It would rather take the fun out of the game for me. I prefer the rough and tumble of open argument, overt persuasion and transparent deals. I can assure you that I have never PM'd anyone with plots or plans about who to vote for and, personally, that's the way that I like it.

Mind you, I suppose that I should expect no more from those who support the likes of Faramir and Eomer.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

How was that to be done? Osanwe-Kenta? Seems a bit unlikely when communicating with a Dwarf...

A summons can be given and yet no faction formed. However no summons has been issued other than the simple invitation given on this thread.

[Boromir88]

So far votes go...

Hama- 7
Eomer- 6

[Kath]

I did my best, Kath, I did my best. I may well support an anti-Dwarf drive, though I'd prefer to expell a Hobbit or so...

No not a Hobbit Anguirel, or at least not yet. With the way Boro's done the groups we really need to get rid of a Dwarf or an Elf, but the Elves have already lost a good portion of their race so I think it's time for a Dwarf to go. It would be nice if we could get it so that there was one member of each race left for the final, but since it goes to a top three I guess that can't happen.

[Folwren]

Actually, for all your guys's information, there hasn't been too much PMing about these later votes.

And mormegil...I don't know if I'll ever trust you with behind the scenes secrets again. It was bad enough your leaving us.

-- Folwren

[Nonnacedak]

++Eomer

Lets get rid of the Jock once and for all! I cant believe all you nerds have stood for this this long! Jocks have no place amongst us. Vote him off already.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Who imprisoned who? Who abused who's sister? That's what we have to ask.

What's this!!!

Someone on the island has been abusing his sister???

There's only one brother and sister on the island: Eomer and Eowyn!

Enough of this scandal! Off with him!

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Actually, for all your guys's information, there hasn't been too much PMing about these later votes.

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

[mormegil]

Folwren, I am sorry if I have hurt you it was not my intent but as I explained our paths were beginning to diverge and I have not given away any secrets. I remember who you hold dear and will avoid that person or there are two people if I remember correctly. I left because I needed to venture out on my own. I was a little caterpillar who just transformed into a butterfly and I needed to fly on my own Folwren it's nothing personal...remember this is M-e Mirth

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

SpM I would agrue that this is survivor though not poker, this is a place for alliance and dark and twisted plots where backstabbing and coersion exist.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by mormegil

SpM I would agrue that this is survivor though not poker, this is a place for alliance and dark and twisted plots where backstabbing and coersion exist.

Er - that's for the contestants, not the audience, isn't it? Nevertheless, I have no problem with bluffs, deals and even broken deals, provided that it is all above board so that each of us knows where he or she stands.

[Folwren]

Originally posted by Mormegil:
Folwren, I am sorry if I have hurt you it was not my intent but as I explained our paths were beginning to diverge and I have not given away any secrets. I remember who you hold dear and will avoid that person or there are two people if I remember correctly. I left because I needed to venture out on my own. I was a little caterpillar who just transformed into a butterfly and I needed to fly on my own Folwren it's nothing personal...remember this is M-e Mirth

Of course. And I'm sure you're very kind and mean nothing serious at all. I can accept that. But I'm awful sensitive at times. Your targetting Faramir and then Eomer and helping those who I hold as an enemy in this game is kind of hard for me to take.

Understand, though, that on most other threads and especially after this game is over, I'll bet most alliances and grudges will be entirely forgotten on my part. So don't worry about it.

As for you, SpM...!

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

I had just finished telling you that there hadn't been any of late.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

Pitting their wits, as you will so call, against others doesn't have to do with 'starting a bandwagon', but rather having an organized, well though of plan before hand. It may be a different approach than you may take, but I have to say that I prefer mine much more. We at least put our brains into it, where as you...you will rely soley on the mass voting. I will remind you that mobs are easily swayed for the worse (or sometimes for the better) and only the low and less noble will use them to gain their own ends.

And as for not voting until those two things happen - ha! Better quit voting, and stay that way, because I'm not stopping.

-- Folwren

[Anguirel]

Saucie, you must be joking. Your terms might as well be the Mouth of Sauron's...

Unless Boromir specifically declares against it (and he earlier said that actual bribed-via-PM votes were fine, in a post I shall find and quote) I shall PM whoever I like, whenever I like, on whatever subject.

There are some things great men do that they prefer to go unnoticed. Much politics is cloak-and-dagger. This is not really Werewolf, and we should feel free to consult and forge mutually beneficial alliances.

If you wish to make good your offer, I bid you farewell and am gladdened that henceforth your mob shall be one vote poorer. Also, Saucie, though I do not doubt you've had no part in it, it is quite obvious that some of your cohorts have been PMing potential allies.

EDIT: Here it is

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Sorry Anguirel, it adds this survivor-like quality to the thread. Bribes, alliances, betrayals and back-stabbings...etc,. Now we even have our own parties forming, makes for an intriguing game. I'm just glad a computer and 1,000 of miles seperate both sides. Guess you'll have to start your own bribing to save Celeborn.

There. A direct hint from the host that if we wanted our candidates to survive, we'd have to scheme and coerce behind the schemes. And I stick by it.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Of course. And I'm sure you're very kind and mean nothing serious at all. I can accept that. But I'm awful sensitive at times. Your targetting Faramir and then Eomer and helping those who I hold as an enemy in this game is kind of hard for me to take.

Hehehehe...

Might help to remember that this IS "Middle-Earth Mirth", where crazy is the law, and the more wacky, far-out, and totally nonsensical you can be, while still maintaining some tangible links to Middle-Earth, is the best way to go.

For example, if I had been trying to get my favourite characters (in a serious not a mirthy way) to win, Gandalf, Bilbo, Aragorn, and Elrond, and yes, even Faramir, would have been fought FOR, rather than championing the unlikely Grishnakh.

For what it's worth, it's a great deal more fun to roam around this game taking potshots at the favourite of the day (which has been Eomer for the last few days) than trying to defend them. The thing about attacking is that you get to make hilarious, outrageous charges, taking everything out of context and shredding a perfectly legit reputation. (Or vice versa in the case of the Baddies. )

When defending, you get all the boring tasks, like stating why so and so was so nice- basically quoting the book, and leaving it at that.

And on that note....

Eomer is a name-caller. Look at his cavalier treatment of Aragorn when he enters Rohan! "Wingfoot I name you" he says. Wingfoot, as any discerning person can tell, is a most girly name, and quite unsuited to the future King of Gondor and Arnor, and should properly have been applied to Legolas (there! Eomer is also blind). What's more, it's clearly a veiled reference to the Greek god Hermes, and that's most insulting! How would YOU like to be compared with a naked guy in sandals?

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

For what it's worth, it's a great deal more fun to roam around this game taking potshots at the favourite of the day (which has been Eomer for the last few days) than trying to defend them. The thing about attacking is that you get to make hilarious, outrageous charges, taking everything out of context and shredding a perfectly legit reputation. (Or vice versa in the case of the Baddies. )

When defending, you get all the boring tasks, like stating why so and so was so nice- basically quoting the book, and leaving it at that.

Dirty job, but somebody has to do it. Besides, defence requires more skill and is more satisfying, as any of the gallant few who defended Celeborn for five days, taking down eight rivals, will testify...

[Glirdan]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

as any of the gallant few who defended Celeborn for five days, taking down eight rivals, will testify...

You do realise that we, the Union of Celeborn haters, did not care that quite a few of those people got voted out?? They might have counted for you, but to us, the more that went, the easier it was to get rid of Celeborn because it gave us more time to recruit people to help us or to let people bandwagon with us.

[Boromir88]

++Eomer

I believe that makes it...

Eomer- 8
Hama- 7

Eomer's time was coming, everyone was getting fed up with his domineering and saying "I'm your King." But as Gimli would say..."Just because some rotted old man, on his deathbed threw a sword at you is no way to base your government. Supreme sovereignty lies with the people." And so ended Eomer's time on the Island.

Elves/Dwarves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gloin
Gimli

Hobbits
Merry
Pippin

Men/Rohan Lady
Eowyn
Hama

[Glirdan]

Curses!!! He's gone!!! I won't vote for Hama today, I will vote for

++Gloin

The dwarf is to old for this kind of thing.

[mormegil]

If we are to thin out dwarves I say we let the dwarf who humilated his race by letting 'Gorn toss him be out

++Gimli

Plus there are too many i's in his name.

[Firefoot]

++Gimli

I mean, what did he really do? He joined the Fellowship, then egged Gandalf into Moria where Gandalf was killed - I mean, he's a Dwarf, how much do you want to bet he didn't know there was a balrog there? Then he goes about making audacious not to mention selfish requests from Galadriel. He doesn't really do anything else except insult Eomer until they get to Helm's Deep where he kills forty-something Orcs - so what? Besides, why did he kill the Orcs? Did he ever considered that there might be hope of redemption? Noo. Then he basically does a whole lot of nothing (unless you're going by the movie - then, not only does he do nothing but is annoying doing it).

Really, he's just a useless character. Why on earth is he in the book anyway? And what's he still doing camping out on this island?

[Boromir88]

I think we should take down a dwarf, but ack! Which one! They both need to go.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

and vote Eowyn of the island...

Just look at the way she treated poor Grima! if she would have just been a little nicer too him, a lot of suffering could have been averted !

++Eowyn

[Glirdan]

I'm quite fine with Firefoot's reasoning for getting rid of Gimli but I'm not thrilled with yours morm. How could you base your reasoning on the movies? Gloin is to old for this and once again, it's LOTR Survivor, not The Hobbit Survivor.

[WaynetheGoblin]

++eowyn im bandwaging.

[wilwarin538]

Why not?

++Eowyn

[Lalaith]

Why not? Wilwarin, I'm shocked. I thought you were a girl? Where's your female solidarity, for heaven's sakes?

I agree we need to lose a dwarf but I would much rather we went for Gloin than Gimli. Gimli has done some really impressive ground-breaking work in the field of race relations, I think for that at least he deserves to get a bit further in the contest.
I also appreciate the younger dwarf's sense of family feeling - he would not desert the tomb of his dead relative even when his life depended on it. Gloin really hasn't been of much use since he arrived, his bones are too stiff and his belly too big.

[wilwarin538]

Why not? Wilwarin, I'm shocked. I thought you were a girl? Where's your female solidarity, for heaven's sakes?

Well it was my brother, he told me to.

But he didn't say I couldn't take it back. hehe * evil grin* (we need to get one of those)

--Eowyn++Gloin

There's my female solidarity!

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Sorry Anguirel, it adds this survivor-like quality to the thread. Bribes, alliances, betrayals and back-stabbings...etc,. Now we even have our own parties forming, makes for an intriguing game. I'm just glad a computer and 1,000 of miles seperate both sides. Guess you'll have to start your own bribing to save Celeborn.

Oh, OK then. Fair do's.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Saucie, you must be joking.

Did Folwren vote in the last round?

I really can't be doing with all the backroom stuff myself, though. My own approach to the game is best expressed by Formendacil here.

And now I feel that it's time to strike at the heart of the Elvendom on earth.

++GALADRIEL

Says it all really.

(Shameless, I know. )

[Kath]

Just a second Sauce, I thought you wanted the Elves to stay on the island?

[Formendacil]

Oooohhh!!!

I'm torn... who to vote for!! There are three very intriguing people to lambast, and I am torn as for which to rip into...

Galadriel has definitely got the most potential. She's got a history of scandal, she's a known henpecker, and I just don't like her that much...

Eowyn, on the other hand, has started to get a bandwaggon going. And while I liked Eowyn in the book, and didn't mind her in the movie, one can SO make a case out of her desertion...

And then there's Gimli. To have a go at the last remaining serious member of the Fellowship (and yes, that is a humourous dig at Merry and Pippin), is quite tempting. As is the fact that he's got the most rolling bandwaggon right now. I DO like to party, and I DO like to win...

Ah.... sweet temptations...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Kath

Just a second Sauce, I thought you wanted the Elves to stay on the island?

I did? I can't recall saying such a thing.

I wouldn't worry, though. It's not like Galadriel has any chance of being voted off. Just another hopeless cause for me to keep banging on about. And she has great potential for, er, creative use of the facts.

[Gil-Galad]

++Gloin

[The 1,000 Reader]

++Gloin.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Eowyn is closed, depressive, mean to weak and pail guys with bad hair-dues, defies her king and she is a fraud. . .

Vote her off now ! ! !

[Folwren]

No, I did not vote. I totally forgot about it after posting last. I regret not having done it. I regret not having found more recruits. But I totally forgot.

Now Eomer is gone.

What is left to continue for? If no one gives me a good reason to stay (now that he, Faramir, and Sam are gone I'll marvel if you can come up with any good reasons), then I may have to leave, too. Not that you would mind much. Perhaps I shall stay to defend Glorfindel...our last hope. Or Gimli...maybe...

-- Folwren

[Alcarillo]

mean to weak and pail guys with bad hair-dues

The only such person she was cruel to was Grima Wormtongue, and he deserved it.

++Gloin

The G-Group is just too large.

[Glirdan]

I just got in from finishing my paper route (stupid Northern Life!!! ) and as I was doing my paper route, I was thinking...what if we did a Silmarillion Survivor? I mean come on, we all had a few good laughs and lots of fun and one bacstabbing (coughmormcough ). What would be the harm in doing a Silm Survivor? I didn't want to start it because I wanted to get your thoughts on this subject beforehand. And it would only contain those who had an important role in The Silm. Elrond and Celeborn wouldn't be in it because they didn't do a whole lot. Sauron was important and deseves another chance and Galadriel, well, we'll have to wait awhile for that.

While we're on that subject, I was also thinking that we could do a second Survivor with LOTR characters, but call it "LOTR and The Hobbit Survivor". That way, you could include Thranduil, Thorin & Co., Beor, Bard, Dain and others that were in The Hobbit and Boro could host it again, if he would like to of course. So, what say you?

Anyway, join the "Get rid of Gloin" campaign!!! A Dwarf has to go!!!!

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

I just got in from finishing my paper route (stupid Northern Life!!! ) and as I was doing my paper route, I was thinking...what if we did a Silmarillion Survivor? I mean come on, we all had a few good laughs and lots of fun and one bacstabbing (coughmormcough ). What would be the harm in doing a Silm Survivor? I didn't want to start it because I wanted to get your thoughts on this subject beforehand. And it would only contain those who had an important role in The Silm. Elrond and Celeborn wouldn't be in it because they didn't do a whole lot. Sauron was important and deseves another chance and Galadriel, well, we'll have to wait awhile for that.

While we're on that subject, I was also thinking that we could do a second Survivor with LOTR characters, but call it "LOTR and The Hobbit Survivor". That way, you could include Thranduil, Thorin & Co., Beor, Bard, Dain and others that were in The Hobbit and Boro could host it again, if he would like to of course. So, what say you?

Anyway, join the "Get rid of Gloin" campaign!!! A Dwarf has to go!!!!

I'm pretty sure that Boromir is/was planning a followup game. Certainly, this has proven at least as addictive as Werewolf, and a lot zanier. I know that Survivor Silm was mentioned as a followup, and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Survivor Hobbit...

Meanwhile, I don't think I'll work against Eowyn today. Too... easy, almost.

So, Gimli or Galadriel... To set my sights on one of those... And hey! I just realised that now that Celeborn has been voted away, there's been some romantic intrigues between these two. Who do you think was instrumental in mergine the Elf and Dwarf tribes?

Naughty, naugthy!