One Thing in Common - Page 24 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gwathagor · 08-10-2008, 10:59 AM

All held the Ring at some point?

Azaghâl · 08-10-2008, 11:33 AM

You're on the right track. I can hardly say more without giving it away.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 08-12-2008, 08:04 AM

They all used the ring?

Lindale · 08-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

They all used the ring?

"wore" would be a better term. bombadil didn't actually use it, the way the Ring is meant to be used--to turn invisible.

Azaghâl · 08-15-2008, 06:52 AM

Many people besides the four I listed did hold, use or wear the Ring. There is something quite unique concerning these four people and the Ring (though a fifth person might arguably be added to the list).

Legate of Amon Lanc · 08-15-2008, 07:22 AM

What about the fact that they willingly gave the ring to somebody else when they had it?

Eönwë · 08-15-2008, 07:42 AM

The ring didn't completely take them over?

Azaghâl · 08-15-2008, 12:18 PM

As it happens, Legate is right. Your turn now.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 08-15-2008, 02:37 PM

Ah, I hoped that won't happen

I won't be around the next week to see the results. But I think I might post it anyway and just hope that my question will be once again one of those hard enough to guess

Let's see if I'll succeed.

What do those have in common:

Old Took
Bungo Baggins
Drogo Baggins
Gaffer Gamgee
Glóin

You may just keep guessing, and then we shall see.

Eönwë · 08-15-2008, 03:30 PM

They are all ancestors of people in the fellowship?

Groin Redbeard · 08-18-2008, 10:22 AM

I think that Eonwe has got this one, but I'll just go ahead and guess anyway. Could it be that they are all short?

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 08-19-2008, 05:26 PM

Bungo Baggins? Bilbo wasn't part of the Fellowship... who was he related to?

Eönwë · 08-20-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior

Bungo Baggins? Bilbo wasn't part of the Fellowship... who was he related to?

Good point.

Could it be that they are all related to people in the fellowship?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 08-23-2008, 06:59 AM

Nope, neither of the answers presented here is correct (as for them being short, they were, but then, there were many others who were. All Dwarves and Hobbits, in particular).

Seems it's working this far

If you choose to, I may give you a minor hint to point you in a certain direction.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 08-28-2008, 06:29 AM

All of them had at least one child and I non of them died in battle. . .

really I have no idea, maybe you should give that hint

Legate of Amon Lanc · 08-28-2008, 08:19 AM

In some way, you are aiming the right direction, Rune. Anyway, I will tell you that it's a thing which is specific only for them, but not of all the people, beings, whatever in M-E, but from Dwarves and Hobbits. So, that is the beginning of the answer. What do these have in common: "Of all the Dwarves and Hobbits..." There's an important hint in this fact, if you think of it.

Azaghâl · 09-04-2008, 12:18 PM

Well, of all the Dwarves and Hobbits, those five are the only (known) ones who had a son who went to sea.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-04-2008, 12:21 PM

Good, good! That was exactly it. Okay, your thread now

Well done!

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-05-2008, 04:16 AM

To think that I spend hours reading to figure out the answe for that quiz and never got it. . .

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-05-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

To think that I spend hours reading to figure out the answe for that quiz and never got it.

Ah, but you know, that sometimes happens even to the best of us

...while that doesn't say anything about you, of course, but...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-05-2008, 11:23 AM

*bump* Azaghâl? Are you around?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 10-05-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

*bump* Azaghâl? Are you around?

I also thought about "bumping" this thread earlier, but decided that I should stick to only a few threads.

The Might · 11-21-2008, 10:12 AM

Bumping doesn't do the trick, you just need a fresh start:

So what do strawberries, Hobbits and the Eotheod have in common?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-23-2008, 02:27 PM

Since I couldn't think of any good answer in the last two days, I will post the first thing that occured to me when I saw this, but it is far from an actual answer.

The only thing I thought of is that they have something to do with straw, like straw-berries, or for the Eotheod, being called straw-heads. No idea what could it be with the hobbits, though.

I also thought it may have something to do with the year 1420 SR.

Any close, Miggy? Or, any hints?

The Might · 11-23-2008, 03:52 PM

Well interesting ideas, but as you would say in my place, it actually is something simple. But I'm sure you'll figure it out.

So as a hint, it has nothing to do with etymology or anything.

I really cannot think of any other hints which would help, but would not spoil it as well.

Thinlómien · 11-27-2008, 04:00 AM

Okay, I have a question about the strawberries. Does this have to do with strawberries in general, or with some quality or aspect of them that is seen in Tolkien's works?

(Goodness, that does sound silly, phrased like that.

I was just wondering.)

But I'm rather clueless. The only thing that pops into my mind that they were all misused or misrepresented in the movies, but they have that in common with just about everything else.

The Might · 11-27-2008, 06:49 AM

Umm, well, it is smething particular to Tolkien's world, yes.

skip spence · 11-27-2008, 06:56 AM

They're good with whipped cream?

The Might · 11-27-2008, 12:09 PM

That answer almost deserves a free win... almost. No, as you probably expected. No, it really isn't any nonsense, it really is a fact. Still funny answer though!

Gollum the Great · 11-27-2008, 10:54 PM

Okay, this might be be a bit far-fetched, but strawberries I know have their seeds on the outside. This might be aligned with the Dunlendings name for the Rohirrim: "strawheads", and perhaps Might is thinking that hobbits are prickly or have curly hair or something. Bizarre I know, but perhaps I'm right.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-28-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

But I'm rather clueless. The only thing that pops into my mind that they were all misused or misrepresented in the movies, but they have that in common with just about everything else.

My goodness, Miggy, I hope it has nothing to do with the movies! In that case, I'd boycott the answer

The Might · 11-29-2008, 11:22 AM

No, nothing as complicated that. And not from the movies.

A tip: It's Eotheod, not Rohirrim.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-29-2008, 01:31 PM

They all originated in the Anduin Vales

Though I have never read the "M-E book of the origin of plants".

The other things that occured to me were that they are favoured to be eaten by Gollum (but that would not concern the Éotheod, and who knows if Gollum ate strawberries), or eaten by Gríma (but again, you say that it's Éotheod, not Rohirrim, and I am not aware of that he'd eat Rohirs anyway, and who knows if he liked strawberries, too).

Besides that, I have no idea

The Might · 11-30-2008, 08:47 AM

Yes, you're right with the Anduin Vales!

It was simple as that.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-30-2008, 09:20 AM

Ah

Okay...

In that case, hmm...

What do Legolas and Saruman have in common?

(It is the thing which, based only on the evidence of the books, only the two of them have in common, as far as I know.)

The Might · 11-30-2008, 11:08 AM

Wow, that's a hard one since I can't imagine where to start looking.
Apparently they had little to do with each other, but surely there is something if you say so.

The problem is a lot is said in the books about them and if they are the only ones to have it in common then it must be some minor detail hard to find.

Ummm... maybe the fact they both heard that Hasufel and Arod had met Shadowfax that night near Fangorn Forest?

I know it's a strange answer, but nothing else comes to mind right now.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-30-2008, 11:30 AM

No, that is not what I am looking for.

I understand that it is a hard one, and I am actually trying to think of how to give a hint which way to look without giving away too much.

Hmm... I think I may as well leave it for a while, that with chance, you may think of it on your own. And if after let's say a day or two people still seem at loss, I may give a bit of a direction.

Thinlómien · 12-01-2008, 03:35 PM

Okay I'm still thinking about Legolas and Saruman, but I have a question about the previous riddle. Just, out of mere curiousity, where does it say that strawberries are from the Anduin Vales?

I thought about an explanation like that too but rejected it because I didn't remember anything like that about strawberries...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-01-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Just, out of mere curiousity, where does it say that strawberries are from the Anduin Vales?

I thought about an explanation like that too but rejected it because I didn't remember anything like that about strawberries...

I actually wondered about it yesterday too, but then I concluded that Miggy probably meant just the fact that they were growing in the Anduin Vales: Bilbo ate some after he got out of the Goblin tunnels and was hungry.

The Might · 12-01-2008, 03:48 PM

Indeed, it only meant they existed there, not that they were from the Anduin Vales as nor were the Eotheod nor the Hobbits for that matter.

08-10-2008, 10:59 AM	#921
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	All held the Ring at some point? __________________ Stories and songs.

08-15-2008, 07:22 AM	#926
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	What about the fact that they willingly gave the ring to somebody else when they had it? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

08-15-2008, 07:42 AM	#927
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08-15-2008, 02:37 PM	#929
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Ah, I hoped that won't happen I won't be around the next week to see the results. But I think I might post it anyway and just hope that my question will be once again one of those hard enough to guess Let's see if I'll succeed. What do those have in common: Old Took Bungo Baggins Drogo Baggins Gaffer Gamgee Glóin You may just keep guessing, and then we shall see. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

08-15-2008, 03:30 PM	#930
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	They are all ancestors of people in the fellowship? __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

08-10-2008, 11:33 AM	#922
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	You're on the right track. I can hardly say more without giving it away.

08-15-2008, 06:52 AM	#925
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	Many people besides the four I listed did hold, use or wear the Ring. There is something quite unique concerning these four people and the Ring (though a fifth person might arguably be added to the list).

08-15-2008, 12:18 PM	#928
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	As it happens, Legate is right. Your turn now.

08-18-2008, 10:22 AM	#931
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	I think that Eonwe has got this one, but I'll just go ahead and guess anyway. Could it be that they are all short? __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

08-19-2008, 05:26 PM	#932
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Bungo Baggins? Bilbo wasn't part of the Fellowship... who was he related to? __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

08-23-2008, 06:59 AM	#934
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Nope, neither of the answers presented here is correct (as for them being short, they were, but then, there were many others who were. All Dwarves and Hobbits, in particular). Seems it's working this far If you choose to, I may give you a minor hint to point you in a certain direction. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

08-28-2008, 08:19 AM	#936
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	In some way, you are aiming the right direction, Rune. Anyway, I will tell you that it's a thing which is specific only for them, but not of all the people, beings, whatever in M-E, but from Dwarves and Hobbits. So, that is the beginning of the answer. What do these have in common: "Of all the Dwarves and Hobbits..." There's an important hint in this fact, if you think of it. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-04-2008, 12:18 PM	#937
Azaghâl Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	Well, of all the Dwarves and Hobbits, those five are the only (known) ones who had a son who went to sea.

09-04-2008, 12:21 PM	#938
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Good, good! That was exactly it. Okay, your thread now Well done! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

10-05-2008, 11:23 AM	#941
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	bump Azaghâl? Are you around? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-21-2008, 10:12 AM	#943
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Bumping doesn't do the trick, you just need a fresh start: So what do strawberries, Hobbits and the Eotheod have in common? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-23-2008, 02:27 PM	#944
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Since I couldn't think of any good answer in the last two days, I will post the first thing that occured to me when I saw this, but it is far from an actual answer. The only thing I thought of is that they have something to do with straw, like straw-berries, or for the Eotheod, being called straw-heads. No idea what could it be with the hobbits, though. I also thought it may have something to do with the year 1420 SR. Any close, Miggy? Or, any hints? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-23-2008, 03:52 PM	#945
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well interesting ideas, but as you would say in my place, it actually is something simple. But I'm sure you'll figure it out. So as a hint, it has nothing to do with etymology or anything. I really cannot think of any other hints which would help, but would not spoil it as well. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-27-2008, 04:00 AM	#946
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Okay, I have a question about the strawberries. Does this have to do with strawberries in general, or with some quality or aspect of them that is seen in Tolkien's works? (Goodness, that does sound silly, phrased like that. I was just wondering.) But I'm rather clueless. The only thing that pops into my mind that they were all misused or misrepresented in the movies, but they have that in common with just about everything else. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-27-2008, 06:49 AM	#947
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Umm, well, it is smething particular to Tolkien's world, yes. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-27-2008, 06:56 AM	#948
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	They're good with whipped cream? __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

11-27-2008, 12:09 PM	#949
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	That answer almost deserves a free win... almost. No, as you probably expected. No, it really isn't any nonsense, it really is a fact. Still funny answer though! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-27-2008, 10:54 PM	#950
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	Okay, this might be be a bit far-fetched, but strawberries I know have their seeds on the outside. This might be aligned with the Dunlendings name for the Rohirrim: "strawheads", and perhaps Might is thinking that hobbits are prickly or have curly hair or something. Bizarre I know, but perhaps I'm right. __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

11-29-2008, 11:22 AM	#952
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	No, nothing as complicated that. And not from the movies. A tip: It's Eotheod, not Rohirrim. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-29-2008, 01:31 PM	#953
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	They all originated in the Anduin Vales Though I have never read the "M-E book of the origin of plants". The other things that occured to me were that they are favoured to be eaten by Gollum (but that would not concern the Éotheod, and who knows if Gollum ate strawberries), or eaten by Gríma (but again, you say that it's Éotheod, not Rohirrim, and I am not aware of that he'd eat Rohirs anyway, and who knows if he liked strawberries, too). Besides that, I have no idea __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-30-2008, 08:47 AM	#954
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Yes, you're right with the Anduin Vales! It was simple as that. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-30-2008, 09:20 AM	#955
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Ah Okay... In that case, hmm... What do Legolas and Saruman have in common? (It is the thing which, based only on the evidence of the books, only the two of them have in common, as far as I know.) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-30-2008, 11:08 AM	#956
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Wow, that's a hard one since I can't imagine where to start looking. Apparently they had little to do with each other, but surely there is something if you say so. The problem is a lot is said in the books about them and if they are the only ones to have it in common then it must be some minor detail hard to find. Ummm... maybe the fact they both heard that Hasufel and Arod had met Shadowfax that night near Fangorn Forest? I know it's a strange answer, but nothing else comes to mind right now. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-30-2008, 11:30 AM	#957
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No, that is not what I am looking for. I understand that it is a hard one, and I am actually trying to think of how to give a hint which way to look without giving away too much. Hmm... I think I may as well leave it for a while, that with chance, you may think of it on your own. And if after let's say a day or two people still seem at loss, I may give a bit of a direction. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-01-2008, 03:35 PM	#958
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Okay I'm still thinking about Legolas and Saruman, but I have a question about the previous riddle. Just, out of mere curiousity, where does it say that strawberries are from the Anduin Vales? I thought about an explanation like that too but rejected it because I didn't remember anything like that about strawberries... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-01-2008, 03:48 PM	#960
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Indeed, it only meant they existed there, not that they were from the Anduin Vales as nor were the Eotheod nor the Hobbits for that matter. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown