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Tol Morwen? Not convinced but the papers bit is hard and there is almost a n anagram of news in there.
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Green land could be a garden, and Elanor Gardener (an almost anagram) was kind of exiled to Undertowers after the palantir of the Havens and the last of the Fellowship sailed West. She inherited the Book of Westmarch from Sam which could account for the papers, but it seems a stretch to interpret the palantir as a "messed up signal". Perhaps it was in the sense that it looked to the West, providing communication with a land now lost.
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Should I tell you or should I not? I think I should.
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Ah well I suppose Rian could be an exiled lady, in ID ie papers in the sense of documents (as I told lovely Heren Istarion once the motto of the French republuc is Liberte Egality Vos Papiers ) and the signal is SOS rearranged into Oss... bravo.
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So much easier when you know the answer.
Lets try... Kick up a fuss but take direction to find a range.
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It can't possibly be something to do with ARAGORN, can it? As in Ranger, not range? "Rag" is something you lose if you're cross/kicking up a fuss, N is a direction, all letters of range except E are in his name? (No, didn't think so). :embarrassed:
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Pervinca, you've given me an idea. It could be drama + N, kicked up=mixedd up, to give ANDRAM, a relatively insignificant mountain range in mid-Beleriand.
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Yep, that is it...fraid I lacked inspiration so browsed encyclopedia of arda for somethingforgot it was so obscure, haven't read much first age stuff for a while...
Hi Pervinca, good to have new blood.
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Hi Mithalwen - I love cryptic crosswords, so this is right up my street.
Can't wait for the next clue, Galadriel!
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Great, I enjoy them too but with sovfew the turns can come a little quickly!
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![]() Frodo, call grizzly with hesitative sound.
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RINGBEARER? Ring for call grizxly bear and er for hesitation.
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I had internet connectivity issues yesterday.
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Oh bother, I held back a while in case you wanted a shot...
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Right on!
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Cheers...
Hearing organ, Irish singer ends a new day in Numenor.
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Indeed which made the week up to seven days...
Over to you, Pervinca ![]()
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Place of breaking turmoil where an eyeless couple, we hear, begin an article on an ancient physician.
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Hmm intriguing, something is floating in the back of mymind. But need to ponder..
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I can't quite explain it all but I did history of medicine at school and there was a chap called Galen...which offersa couple of possibilities of which Parth Galen where the fellowship broke seems likeliest. Pair is a couple without I par..th starts the an article..the we hear I can't explain...
Works better than trying to turn hippocrates into helcaraxe which was my starting point!
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Well done, you are quite right. I put in "we hear" because it referred to "i" which only sounds like "eye" instead of meaning the same thing or the word "eye" being an actual part of the answer. In a lot of crosswords I've done, "we hear" in the clue indicated that the element "sounded like that" but was spelled differently.
I first heard of Galen in "Medicine Through Time" - one of the units on a new "O" Level History course back in the 80's. ![]() I had thought of just putting "place of turmoil" because I thought "breaking" was a bit of a giveaway. ![]()
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silly me, yes of course it does. Sounds like we did the same syllabus. I enjoyed it though I remember that the answe r to most things was purging, bloodletting and vomiting.
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Not to mention the trephinned skulls! And a charming picture of an Egyptian lady vomiting at a banquet. It was a very content-heavy course. We had three very full text books to get through in one term. I loved the course, though. Other courses were the Irish Question, Country Houses and Elizabethan England.
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Inevitably I had to do the industrial revolution again along with communist chinacand a local study. Despite going fromone local school to another I seem to have done little else but the ir...apart from the year we had a devout yorkist.
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Lord whose end, in France, is also his beginning. Interim target loses pitch.
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Fingolfin? Fin being French for end, and gol as goal-a.
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Indeed, it is all yours. Thought I woud be less obscure and maybe overdidvit!
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Ok, here's one: Tower without one leader in Shire in goblin
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Orthanc.
Orthanc is the tower; thain (Shire leader) minus 1 (I) inside the word orc (goblin).
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Precisely. Over to you.
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Quite tuneful before the loss of the Ulster connection, this palindromic meanie wears a hat dead-centre.
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Palindrom that;s same forward and back that's te only thing in that clue that gives me remotely anything.
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With a bit of reverse engineering I think Mim is the answer to this initially daunting clue. I Eeeked when I first saw it! Thanks to Nerwen's favourite spambot we know that very few Tolkien names begin and end with the same letter let alone being a palindrome. Then wearing a hat suggests a circonflex on the middle letter. Ulster connection suggested NI for northern Ireland. Wrapping Mim around NI gives the musical term mimim.
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Exactly! I thought it would have been too much of a giveaway if I'd only included the last part of the clue. I'd already indicated that the answer was a villain, and I can't think offhand of any palindromes besides Mim in Tolkien's universe (plus the hat indicates the circumflex, as you rightly said).
Minim is a palindrome too, of course. Well done Mithalwen - over to you!
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Fantastic job that clue was waaay smarter than me
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Anyways, great job Mith! That clue was certainly daunting, but you solved all the parts! Even with the help of dear old Lucy (who is just getting way too popular for a spambot ![]()
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I think there is truth I Gandalf's observation that shared origins are a help when it comes to solving riddles...more likely to get the cultural refs and knoww the same clue conventions.
But this isn't going to be so clever I fear. Star doesn't get a thank you initially but gains land in dissarray for an epesse.
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It looks darned clever to me! I tried to make my clues hard because the standard I found here was so high. (I was completely at sea on the Ossiriand and Amdran (is that right?) clues).
I also have a Daily Mail book of cryptic crosswords by my bed that I am gradually getting better at - but I still have to look up the answers in the back quite a lot! I think there is truth I Gandalf's observation that shared origins are a help when it comes to solving riddles...more likely to get the cultural refs and knoww the same clue conventions. I wonder if that was why I didn't get the "letters" thing in Galadriel's Ossiriand - or is that more to do with being used within a particular profession? P.S. No, I can't solve this clue. Not yet, anyway. ![]() P.P.S. Sam would probably throw apples at me for forgetting Bob.
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