Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, Quarantine Thread

[Rikae]

So, going with scenario 3, who do we think Kath's fellow would be?

I would love it to be Boro just because his innocent-playing-seer-getting-two-wolves-lynched show would be so delightful (actually, it's delightful regardless of his role).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

This is the most fitting description of the whole situation (and the description of my thought processes in every game of Werewolf anyway).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rikae

So, going with scenario 3, who do we think Kath's fellow would be?

I would love it to be Boro just because his innocent-playing-seer-getting-two-wolves-lynched show would be so delightful (actually, it's delightful regardless of his role).

It would have been a great move for him. I was thinking Lottie could be the Child, but that's largely guessing.

[Rikae]

I'd think if the child was around and posting they'd have revealed, so Rune or Greenie.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I'd think if the child was around and posting they'd have revealed, so Rune or Greenie.

Maybe Rune, since he seems to be doing his own thing, and it would be more amusing that way.

[Pitchwife]

So I take a day off for weeding and housecleaning and come back to THIS???

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

It would have been a great move for him. I was thinking Lottie could be the Child, but that's largely guessing.

Me too. I mean her panic reaction to Sally hunting her felt a lot like she had a special role; my first guess was the IC, but seer would have made sense too.


FWIW, Kath's post about us clearly knowing something we don't (which I quoted on the last page) has earned her a *ping*. I think the Infected would have more to gain from fostering blind trust in our vote than the innocents.

[Pitchwife]

Greenie's #1413 - This is so awesome. If Brinn isn't the Seer, she would have been preparing to do a fake gifted reveal at some point right from the start; don't know how likely that is.
And if she is, the wolves probably killed me just to frame Steve, + starting to suspect Ka, + leaving no trail to the others.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Lottie

I think that's everyone! No counter reveal, so:

I am the Innocent Child.

Ha!

[Rikae]

Okay, since no one in the GT challenged Brinn, I'll trust her. Would have been cool if we had agreed to vote Kath yesterDay!

++Kath

I hope the child reveals toDay so she doesn't dream them tonight by accident. I think the wolves could still win in that case, right?

Edit: crossed, obviously

[THE Ka]

Since I might loose service here soon, I'll add my vote:

++Rune

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Greenie's #1413 - This is so awesome. If Brinn isn't the Seer, she would have been preparing to do a fake gifted reveal at some point right from the start; don't know how likely that is.

Yes. And isn't it actually what G55 said?

I, in fact, checked a few Days back Brinn's posts whether she might not be the Seer, but I didn't reach any conclusion worth mentioning. She's been doing a really good job of avoiding... anything.

Also the initial suspicion (coupled with the votes provided by our beloved G55, Rikae and later Hui) probably provided the best cover for her, ever.

[Rikae]

So, G55 (and later, G55 & Hui) ended up protecting the seer with their votes? Delicious.

I mean, G55 did abstain, but she always had the power to decide that vote.

Edit: crossed, haha, great minds

[Pitchwife]

++Kath

[Rikae]

Got to say, if Brinn's the seer I'm fairly proud of how I handled that day 2 vote situation, but of course I had no way of knowing if I was right or wrong and have been second-guessing it through the whole game
And yeah, G55, you definitely helped with the second guessing with your gloating. Had me second guessing the Lhuna lynch, too. Well cobbled.

[Rikae]

So, was your vote an attempt to flag her as the seer?

That Greeks bearing gifts thing ... ! I read those early posts so many times, and there were a number of bantery comments that snagged my attention like "hm, what's behind this?", and in that case I did that and didn't stop to answer my own question.

Lesson learned: always answer all my own questions.

[Rikae]

"Your" = Cobbler55

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Brinniel as Seer... not what I would have expected. I'm a bit confused as to why I was killed, then.

++Kath

[Rikae]

Was like, "wait, what about Greenie"? Then went back and saw her on Brinn's list. Need more coffee.

So, bets on Rune and Boro?

[Inziladun]

At work today, and busy.

++Kath

[Inziladun]

If Brinn really is the Seer, one thing is clear.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Was like, "wait, what about Greenie"? Then went back and saw her on Brinn's list. Need more coffee.

So, bets on Rune and Boro?

That's a tough one. I think I'd go Rune.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by inziladun

if brinn really is the seer, one thing is clear.

:d

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Boro has been super-clever though. I thought Rune innocent in the beginning, but then we started differing in our opinions... especially concerning Lottie. I wonder whether Runewolf wouldn't go harder after her... but then perhaps his packmates didn't share the idea.

Anyways, occurs to me that through our vote toDay, we could have, y'know, suggested one of the remaining two (as a message to the Living) - but probably too late for that now...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Me too. I mean her panic reaction to Sally hunting her felt a lot like she had a special role; my first guess was the IC, but seer would have made sense too.

sally, you should have hunted Lottie after all.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Yes. And isn't it actually what G55 said?

And you thought I was joking.

Originally Posted by Rikae

So, was your vote an attempt to flag her as the seer?

Not exactly. I had a feeling she was up to something, but only seriously considered her as a possible Seer mid-game (but only based on her Day 1 posting plus the now revealed roles. I honestly didn't read the GT in enough detail to remember most people's posting since I died). I was 99.9% sure you guys were wrong about Boro being the Seer though. I was kinda surprised that Mac suggested it, because a different role seemed much more likely to me at that time.

[Lalaith]

Well I'll be....
++Kath

Well at least I got the Innocent Child right

Sorry Eonwe, if you ever read this....

[Rikae]

Boro has been very clever. Question is, is he an absolute rock star of an ordo, in which case I am very impressed (he should probably be considered a gifted regardless of role in the future) ... or is he a wolf who tried a bold plan that backfired, in which case ... I'm still pretty impressed, tbh. I love that kind of stuff.

But at the end of the day, if it was a wolf plan it was a flawed one and I think Boro's too clear thinking to try it. So, Rune. Which makes this a very, very under-reindeer pack.

[Galadriel55]

Pro forma:

++Lottie

I hope you die, you obnoxious piece of absolute sunshine!

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Boro has been very clever. Question is, is he an absolute rock star of an ordo, in which case I am very impressed (he should probably be considered a gifted regardless of role in the future) ... or is he a wolf who tried a bold plan that backfired, in which case ... I'm still pretty impressed, tbh. I love that kind of stuff.

I am curious - if he is, in fact, a wolf, what do you think was his plan and where has it backfired?

[Rikae]

On the other hand, if Rune is guilty that means Boro, as an ordo, was right about basically everyone but Eonwe and still managed to not die. What are the odds?

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I am curious - if he is, in fact, a wolf, what do you think was his plan and where has it backfired?

Probably to flush out the seer, and the actual seer remained alive until the endgame, so that's a pretty major backfire.

[Pitchwife]

My gut still says Rune is innocent, and I'll feel super stupid if he turns out a wolf.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Probably to flush out the seer, and the actual seer remained alive until the endgame, so that's a pretty major backfire.

Possible. Though if the reason was "gain trust and steer the village"... I guess the optimal wolf ploy would be to combine those two. You gotta realize though, the longer you live that way the less chance of you actually being the Seer.

[Galadriel55]

And now we have to do the obligatory waiting till DL, and then till toMorrow, to find out who the last wolf was. Bummer. I wish we could fast forward.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Boro

I don't think I'm included in this request for a preference. But I prefer Rune

I did provide cover and protect you from the infectors until yesterday. I hope that counts for something.

Why would Ordomir88 plead with Brinn not do dream him? He'd have nothing to fear. Besides, with just him and Rune left undreamed, the result would be the same either way. Nah, he just enjoys messing with everybody now. He's a wolf.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Possible. Though if the reason was "gain trust and steer the village"... I guess the optimal wolf ploy would be to combine those two. You gotta realize though, the longer you live that way the less chance of you actually being the Seer.

He basically made himself guaranteed to be dreamed by the actual seer, which is why I wasn't worried about it.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Why would Ordomir88 plead with Brinn not do dream him? He'd have nothing to fear. Besides, with just him and Rune left undreamed, the result would be the same either way. Nah, he just enjoys messing with everybody now. He's a wolf.

Why would wolf Boro either?

[Rikae]

(continuation of last)

Just banter, if he's a wolf Brinn would get him either way.

[THE Ka]

Brinn gave us marching orders for toMorrow if they're selected toNight:

If*Boro*is evil the QT vote will be for him. If he's innocent, the QT vote will be for*Rune.

[Pitchwife]

And you totally mean to stick with that, yes?

[Huinesoron]

Just came back in... hah, you lot bought it? Delicious, absolutely delicious...

hS