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Turambar · 08-25-2003, 05:52 AM

This one has lasted too long -- I'll give the answer if no one guesses it this morning.

HINT: for Turgon + Finrod -- Ulmo.

[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Evisse the Blue · 08-25-2003, 07:43 AM

Well, Lorien is the god of dreams, so the the reason for the OMO Finglofin is all the others had ( recieved, if you will, by the grace of the Ainur) visionary dreams:
- Fingon and Turgon about the cities they will build - with help from Ulmo;
- Thingol had a vision about the light of the Two Trees through the grace of Melian;
- Beren was warned in a dream of his father's death - I forget by whom;

I don't have the time to check these, I hope they're correct.

PS: This better be the correct one, cause it just got me promoted to 'Shade of Carn Dum'
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[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]

Turambar · 08-25-2003, 08:12 AM

Correct !!

Thingol "was troubled by dreams concerning the coming of Men," and Beren had a very lurid dream in which "carrion-birds sat thick as leaves upon bare trees beside a mere, and blood dripped from their beaks."

Fingolfin, as far as we know, slept like Samwise.

Evisse the Blue · 08-25-2003, 12:10 PM

Here is the new one, then:

Aragorn
Theoden
Gandalf
Eomer

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-25-2003, 04:51 PM

Gandalf, because he was never a King?

Evisse the Blue · 08-25-2003, 05:03 PM

No, it's not that.

I should say that this new one was inspired by Turambar's previous one - so, the solution is somewhat similar).
(oh, gee, I really shoudn't use 'inspired by' anymore. this expression tends to get me in trouble [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] )

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-26-2003, 01:56 AM

Ummm... Gandalf, then, the only one never to have had a 'visionary dream'? (worth a try...?)

Evisse the Blue · 08-26-2003, 02:49 AM

Hey, I said 'inspired', not copied. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . So, no, it's not that, but as I said, close enough.

Other guesses will have to wait till the end of the week to recieve confirmation, hope you don't mind ; (I'll be out trying to break a few more miles on the way to Rivendell [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Gil-Galad · 08-29-2003, 12:01 PM

Aragorn was afraid of his past, and what he might become, he didn't want to bear Narsil

Evisse the Blue · 08-29-2003, 12:18 PM

Nope.
HINT: It's something they all said (all but the OMO).

Evisse the Blue · 09-04-2003, 05:18 PM

Aw, c'mon! It's really easy! I nearly handed it to you on a golden plate already solved. All you have to do is think about things the characters have said, and remmber a key word in Turmabar's previous riddle. If you get the key word, you get the riddle solved.

elfearz1 · 09-14-2003, 12:43 PM

Gandalf, because he was the only one not married? (that's more inspired by something someone else said, but I thought it was worth a try.)

Evisse the Blue · 09-14-2003, 07:38 PM

Nope, it's not this. I think it has been a long time since Aug 25 when the riddle was first posted, and as nobody gets it - I'll provide the answer.
The OMO was Eomer because he never had a moment of 'clairvoyance' - the rest all predicted something:
Aragorn - told Gandalf 'if you pass the doors of Moria, beware'
Theoden - predicted that he will not see Aragorn again
Gandalf - predicted lots of things; Gollum having still a part to play is the one that comes to mind now.

Eomer actually predicted something of which the opposite would come true: that Aragorn will not make it through the Paths of the Dead.

Now that's settled - anyone care to provide the next riddle? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lasgalen · 09-14-2003, 08:45 PM

I will try one. (hope my memory is working correctly)

Legolas
Gimli
Aragorn
Gandalf
Pippin

Turambar · 09-15-2003, 07:28 AM

EVISSE -- I didnt remember that Theoden made that prediction! At least, that's my excuse.

Evisse the Blue · 09-15-2003, 09:38 AM

Is it Pippin because he wasn't at the battle of Helm's Deep?

Turambar: it's a very good excuse, it's not the kind of thing that strikes you in the face, but I found it somehow ironic that he should make this prediction and it would prove true, but with a small twist... this is the quote: ROTK, ch 'Muster of Rohan': Theoden (about Aragorn): "Maybe he was called and my heart tells me that I shall not see him again."

Lasgalen · 09-16-2003, 01:51 AM

That is true, but not what I was thinking of. I had a different odd man out in mind.

Lasgalen · 09-22-2003, 03:09 PM

Somebody else should go. I am leaving for vacation and I won't be back until October.

Estanesse · 10-12-2003, 06:49 PM

Hurin
Turin
Huor
Tuor

Lindolirian · 10-12-2003, 08:24 PM

I'll start narrowing it down with the obvious ones... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Turin has never been to Gondolin.
Tuor was never on the plains of Anfauglith.
Only Tuor married an Elda, and became an immortal.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 10-13-2003, 01:53 AM

Tuor was the only one whose story was bright, rather than miserable.

Finwe · 10-13-2003, 08:53 AM

Tuor because he was the only one who didn't die early/ be killed.

Estanesse · 10-13-2003, 12:45 PM

There is no correct answer yet but Lindolirian is on the right track. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Telchar · 10-27-2003, 02:44 AM

Huor was never taken captive?

NightKnight · 10-27-2003, 03:57 AM

Huor was the only one not to survive a great battle?

Estanesse · 10-27-2003, 07:07 AM

No correct answer yet. A little hint, it has to do with battles.

Turambar · 10-27-2003, 07:29 AM

Túrin didn't fight in the Nirnaeth?

Lasgalen · 10-28-2003, 01:02 AM

Turin
He is the only one who did not fight along side Turgon.

Estanesse · 10-28-2003, 08:46 AM

No and no

Finwe · 10-28-2003, 08:37 PM

Hurin was the only one to be captured and taken to Morgoth, by Balrogs, in a battle?

Estanesse · 10-30-2003, 02:00 PM

No it has nothing to do with what they did.

Telchar · 10-30-2003, 08:08 PM

It has to do with family doesnt it???

[ October 30, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Lasgalen · 10-31-2003, 01:03 AM

Turin is the only one whose son did not fight against Morgoth or his hosts.

Estanesse · 10-31-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

It has to do with family doesnt it???

Sorry but it has nothing to do with family.

Quote:

Turin is the only one whose son did not fight against Morgoth or his hosts.

Turin had no son.

Telchar · 10-31-2003, 08:41 AM

hmmmm *looks crazed and shoots wildly around*

Turin: Because he never had any children [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 10-31-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Sorry but it has nothing to do with family.

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[ October 31, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Finwe · 11-03-2003, 08:36 PM

Huor because he didn't utter any battle-cries in any battles that he fought in. (Or at least we don't remember them).

Estanesse · 11-04-2003, 03:28 AM

Nope battle cry isn’t the answer.

*Hint*

Quote:

Sorry but it has nothing to do with family.

Quote:

it has to do with battles.

Quote:

it has nothing to do with what they did.

*New hint* age

NightKnight · 11-04-2003, 01:28 PM

All of them except for Tuor were sent away as children, after a big battle.

Lasgalen · 11-05-2003, 03:43 AM

Quote:

*New hint* age

Tuor was the only one to survive the First Age?

08-25-2003, 05:52 AM	#841
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	This one has lasted too long -- I'll give the answer if no one guesses it this morning. HINT: for Turgon + Finrod -- Ulmo. [ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-25-2003, 07:43 AM	#842
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Well, Lorien is the god of dreams, so the the reason for the OMO Finglofin is all the others had ( recieved, if you will, by the grace of the Ainur) visionary dreams: - Fingon and Turgon about the cities they will build - with help from Ulmo; - Thingol had a vision about the light of the Two Trees through the grace of Melian; - Beren was warned in a dream of his father's death - I forget by whom; I don't have the time to check these, I hope they're correct. PS: This better be the correct one, cause it just got me promoted to 'Shade of Carn Dum' [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ] __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-25-2003, 08:12 AM	#843
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Correct !! Thingol "was troubled by dreams concerning the coming of Men," and Beren had a very lurid dream in which "carrion-birds sat thick as leaves upon bare trees beside a mere, and blood dripped from their beaks." Fingolfin, as far as we know, slept like Samwise. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-25-2003, 12:10 PM	#844
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Here is the new one, then: Aragorn Theoden Gandalf Eomer __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-25-2003, 04:51 PM	#845
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Gandalf, because he was never a King? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-25-2003, 05:03 PM	#846
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	No, it's not that. I should say that this new one was inspired by Turambar's previous one - so, the solution is somewhat similar). (oh, gee, I really shoudn't use 'inspired by' anymore. this expression tends to get me in trouble [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-26-2003, 01:56 AM	#847
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Ummm... Gandalf, then, the only one never to have had a 'visionary dream'? (worth a try...?)

08-26-2003, 02:49 AM	#848
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Hey, I said 'inspired', not copied. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . So, no, it's not that, but as I said, close enough. Other guesses will have to wait till the end of the week to recieve confirmation, hope you don't mind ; (I'll be out trying to break a few more miles on the way to Rivendell [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-29-2003, 12:01 PM	#849
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Aragorn was afraid of his past, and what he might become, he didn't want to bear Narsil __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

08-29-2003, 12:18 PM	#850
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Nope. HINT: It's something they all said (all but the OMO). __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-04-2003, 05:18 PM	#851
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Aw, c'mon! It's really easy! I nearly handed it to you on a golden plate already solved. All you have to do is think about things the characters have said, and remmber a key word in Turmabar's previous riddle. If you get the key word, you get the riddle solved. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-14-2003, 12:43 PM	#852
elfearz1 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 259	Gandalf, because he was the only one not married? (that's more inspired by something someone else said, but I thought it was worth a try.) __________________ I didn't eat Merry, i just ate his waistcoat!-Horse maidens dream 915/920 miles. On my way to Lothlorien! ^^Elfearz^^

09-14-2003, 07:38 PM	#853
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Nope, it's not this. I think it has been a long time since Aug 25 when the riddle was first posted, and as nobody gets it - I'll provide the answer. The OMO was Eomer because he never had a moment of 'clairvoyance' - the rest all predicted something: Aragorn - told Gandalf 'if you pass the doors of Moria, beware' Theoden - predicted that he will not see Aragorn again Gandalf - predicted lots of things; Gollum having still a part to play is the one that comes to mind now. Eomer actually predicted something of which the opposite would come true: that Aragorn will not make it through the Paths of the Dead. Now that's settled - anyone care to provide the next riddle? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-14-2003, 08:45 PM	#854
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	I will try one. (hope my memory is working correctly) Legolas Gimli Aragorn Gandalf Pippin __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

09-15-2003, 07:28 AM	#855
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	EVISSE -- I didnt remember that Theoden made that prediction! At least, that's my excuse. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

09-15-2003, 09:38 AM	#856
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Is it Pippin because he wasn't at the battle of Helm's Deep? Turambar: it's a very good excuse, it's not the kind of thing that strikes you in the face, but I found it somehow ironic that he should make this prediction and it would prove true, but with a small twist... this is the quote: ROTK, ch 'Muster of Rohan': Theoden (about Aragorn): "Maybe he was called and my heart tells me that I shall not see him again." __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-16-2003, 01:51 AM	#857
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	That is true, but not what I was thinking of. I had a different odd man out in mind. __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

09-22-2003, 03:09 PM	#858
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Somebody else should go. I am leaving for vacation and I won't be back until October. __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

10-12-2003, 06:49 PM	#859
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Hurin Turin Huor Tuor __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-12-2003, 08:24 PM	#860
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I'll start narrowing it down with the obvious ones... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Turin has never been to Gondolin. Tuor was never on the plains of Anfauglith. Only Tuor married an Elda, and became an immortal. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

10-13-2003, 01:53 AM	#861
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Tuor was the only one whose story was bright, rather than miserable.

10-13-2003, 08:53 AM	#862
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Tuor because he was the only one who didn't die early/ be killed. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-13-2003, 12:45 PM	#863
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	There is no correct answer yet but Lindolirian is on the right track. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-27-2003, 02:44 AM	#864
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Huor was never taken captive? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-27-2003, 03:57 AM	#865
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Huor was the only one not to survive a great battle? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

10-27-2003, 07:07 AM	#866
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No correct answer yet. A little hint, it has to do with battles. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-27-2003, 07:29 AM	#867
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Túrin didn't fight in the Nirnaeth? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-28-2003, 01:02 AM	#868
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Turin He is the only one who did not fight along side Turgon. __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

10-28-2003, 08:46 AM	#869
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No and no __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-28-2003, 08:37 PM	#870
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Hurin was the only one to be captured and taken to Morgoth, by Balrogs, in a battle? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

10-30-2003, 02:00 PM	#871
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No it has nothing to do with what they did. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

10-30-2003, 08:08 PM	#872
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	It has to do with family doesnt it??? [ October 30, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-31-2003, 01:03 AM	#873
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Turin is the only one whose son did not fight against Morgoth or his hosts. __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

10-31-2003, 08:41 AM	#875
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	hmmmm looks crazed and shoots wildly around Turin: Because he never had any children [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-03-2003, 08:36 PM	#877
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Huor because he didn't utter any battle-cries in any battles that he fought in. (Or at least we don't remember them). __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.