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mormegil · 02-03-2006, 05:11 AM

++Belladona Took

I may be able to pull off this bluff though it's coming close each day.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-03-2006, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by arcticstorm

He is the greatest person on the island and the most deserving of the prize of ultimate survivor.

I strongly suspect that you are not alone in this belief. Hence my vote for him. If nothing else, it may help to flush out those who support him.

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Originally Posted by mormegil

I may be able to pull off this bluff though it's coming close each day.

Morm - the double bluff ain't gonna fool anyone ...

Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-03-2006, 05:46 AM

++Belladona Took

Eonwe · 02-03-2006, 06:15 AM

++Belladonna Took

Celuien · 02-03-2006, 07:27 AM

++BELLADONNA TOOK

This is getting dull.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-03-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Celuin

This is getting dull.

Then why not try a different approach? Contrary to Kuru's analysis (or perhaps because of his hidden agenda

), Belladonna will not reach the final. You can be sure of that. There are enough people gunning for her and enough supporting alternative candidates to ensure her exit before we are down to the final three.

So why not try flushing out who is supporting who? It would be nice to have a day where the voting is spread and there are more than just two candidates for the chop.

Incidentally, aren't unreasoned votes subject to being discounted?

mormegil · 02-03-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Incidentally, aren't unreasoned votes subject to being discounted?

Yes but they have been reasoned previously and I feel that that is sufficient.

SpM help us get this victory so we can move on. Oh wait, I forget the soft spot you have for any and all Tooks; seeing past their ineptitudes and annoyances and thinking them lovable.

WaynetheGoblin · 02-03-2006, 08:18 AM

++belladona took

Lalaith · 02-03-2006, 08:43 AM

In the words of C3PO (in his Simpsons incarnation)

"You're so boring!"

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-03-2006, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

SpM help us get this victory so we can move on.

I am not holding out much hope for Belladonna, but I will not actively vote against her unless I have to. In the meantime, I am happy for you folks to continue your vendetta against her on the basis that it diverts attention away from other, more valued (by me), contestants.

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Originally Posted by mormegil

Oh wait, I forget the soft spot you have for any and all Tooks; seeing past their ineptitudes and annoyances and thinking them lovable.

I really don't see how anyone who knows their Tolkien can deny that the Tooks are anything but an exceptional and outstanding strain of Hobbitkind. Their adventurous and curious nature makes them by far the most interesting of all the great Hobbit families. It was down to Belladonna that Bilbo harboured his latent adventurous side. But for her, the Quest of Erebor would have been a disaster. But, seeing as you so actively dislike the incredible little fellow central to the tale that gave rise to this show, I wouldn't expect you to understand that ...

Holbytlass · 02-03-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

See it makes no sense! You are only trying to save her because she is female. What did she do that is worthy of winning this.

While I don't expect or even necessarily want her to win, I think she's worth saving for awhile in the same sense I voted for dwarves-to thin out. There are plenty of males in various races/species for ones own choosing. I shall keep thinning out males until the ratio is a bit better, afterall, 1:4(or5) is better than 1:46.

++Gwahir

Kuruharan · 02-03-2006, 09:20 AM

Results of yesterday’s experiment…well, I feel pretty normal.

However, I wouldn't want to start repeating myself.

++ GWAIHIR

Quote:

This is getting dull.

That is because you are reflexively and unthinkingly voting for the same character over and over and over again. Of course that is going to be dull! You want the game to be interesting? Inject some variety into your play. Otherwise, don’t come crying to the rest of us.

Celuien · 02-03-2006, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Then why not try a different approach? Contrary to Kuru's analysis (or perhaps because of his hidden agenda

), Belladonna will not reach the final. You can be sure of that. There are enough people gunning for her and enough supporting alternative candidates to ensure her exit before we are down to the final three.

So why not try flushing out who is supporting who? It would be nice to have a day where the voting is spread and there are more than just two candidates for the chop.

Incidentally, aren't unreasoned votes subject to being discounted?

Oh, alright then. I'll drop Belladonna for now as it seems that she's in the lead anyway.

--BELLADONNA
++ WILLIAM

Two can play the double bluff game. Or triple. Or quadruple. But honestly, William isn't any fun since Bert and Tom left. He's sitting alone on a rock crying. If he keeps it up, he's going to wear channels in his face.

Anguirel · 02-03-2006, 09:25 AM

What do we do when it gets dull?

That's right! We go on a Dwarf-hunt!

All those who would unite against the eviction of the last birdlife specimen on the island-come hither!

++BOMBUR

(I must confess I got the wrong Dwarf at first. Quite revealing in itself.)

Kuruharan · 02-03-2006, 09:27 AM

On the other hand, this sudden vote for William is pretty interesting.

Anybody else want to try and get rid of the other troll to see how Saucepan Man reacts?

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-03-2006, 10:19 AM

+ + Gwaihir

Bombur didn't get nearly enough to
munch from Roac, and figures a
bigger bird is a bigger meal.

Lalaith · 02-03-2006, 11:41 AM

Belladonna voted off now is a tactical error, people. While she's still around, and under threat, it's possible to set off all sorts of stalking horses and get them voted off by those seeking to protect her.

Current state of play:
Gwahir 4
Bella 4
William 1
Warg 1
Bombur 1

Now, I'd rather not vote for Gwahir unless I have to. I find Bombur rather tiresome but I did say to Kuru I wouldn't vote against dwarves and I shall honour that promise while I still can. And it's my opinion that there are too many baddies heading for the final. I think we should whittle them down to one or two, so I'd be happy to go for either William or Warg, although they're looking like wasted votes at the moment.
Personally, I think Smaug has a lot of secret fans and will win this. Anyone who supports another candidate should think quite carefully now.

Kuruharan · 02-03-2006, 12:08 PM

Lalaith

Well, I'd much rather vote against a baddie myself. However, the Eagle Lord does have to go at some point. Today seems to be the day he's getting the votes.

Tell you what, tomorrow I'll do my best to vote off a villainous villain of your choice.

I completely agree with you about Smaug, by the way.

Eonwe · 02-03-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuru

That is because you are reflexively and unthinkingly voting for the same character over and over and over again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ang

What do we do when it gets dull?

That's right! We go on a Dwarf-hunt!

Well if that isn't a knee-jerk reaction, I don't know what is!

Elu Ancalime · 02-03-2006, 12:39 PM

Ang, if you switch to Eagle Lord, Belladonna will be saved. I will vote for Bombur next.

++Ealge Lord/Gwaihir
________
BUY GRINDERS

Formendacil · 02-03-2006, 12:55 PM

Some people think it's boring?

Well, the fact that half the voting population has been stuck in a Belladonna Goes trend might have something to do with that...

Tell you what: let us kill off Belladonna, and things will get more interesting as the Anti-Belladonna Alliance collapses. Who knows, I "might" even vote on the same side as Kuruharan, SPM, or Anguirel...

Oh, and Celuien, I think we're going to need your Belladonna vote again...

++ Belladonna Took

Lalaith · 02-03-2006, 01:01 PM

Not so fast, Master Formendacil:

++GWAHIR.

Anguirel · 02-03-2006, 02:02 PM

Time to make some sacrifices in the name of the birds of the air.

You forced me to this, Lalaith!

--BOMBUR, ++BELLADONNA TOOK

As for my reasoning:

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-03-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Personally, I think Smaug has a lot of secret fans and will win this. Anyone who supports another candidate should think quite carefully now.

I was thinking along the same lines. But the complete lack of uptake on my suggestion of the Chief Warg as today's candidate has got me reconsidering. It seems that he may have more support than even I suspected ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Belladonna voted off now is a tactical error, people. While she's still around, and under threat, it's possible to set off all sorts of stalking horses and get them voted off by those seeking to protect her.

With this, I entirely agree.

-- CHIEF WARG
++ GWAIHIR

The resulting feast should keep them going for a while, even with Bombur still around. One Eagle Lord Buffalo Wing alone should last a week or so ...

Edit: Nice menu - er - picture, Ang.

Anguirel · 02-03-2006, 02:07 PM

The MEAD (Middle-Earth Air Division) needs you, Downers! If you ever watched an eagle soar or even a sparrow speed, for their sakes vote for the manipulative egg-thief Belladonna Took.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 02-03-2006, 02:16 PM

++GWAIHIR

As for my reasoning:

Seriously, I wouldn't want to vote for Gwaihir, but if it's the only way to save Ms. Took, that's what I'll do.

Anguirel · 02-03-2006, 02:59 PM

Right. This is it. Lucrezia dear, the Sword from a Star does not like you.

There's going to be trouble...

mormegil · 02-03-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

In the words of C3PO (in his Simpsons incarnation)

"You're so boring!"

Not at all. Things seem to have livened up a bit. It's rather comical to see all your feathers get ruffled.

I'm not a huge fan of Gwaihir but I would rather him stay than some others. So I will see what I can do to help you Ang (now that's weird to be on your side for change)

Lalaith · 02-03-2006, 03:17 PM

Don't talk about ruffled feathers, Morm. It's a sore point right now and you'll make Ang even crosser than he already is.
Look, Ang, most of us didn't want the noble Windlord off so soon. Don't blame us, blame the hobbit/women haters who painted us into a corner.

Formendacil · 02-03-2006, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

I'm not a huge fan of Gwaihir but I would rather him stay than some others. So I will see what I can do to help you Ang (now that's weird to be on your side for change)

Indeed.... one might almost call the Anti-Belladonna League an Unholy Alliance.

Personally, I would call Gwaihir one of my preferable candidates left, as of now, since he is neither a person favourite (such as Elrond) who would normally attract my rather ironic attention during a game, nor is he a loathsome beast... like William or the Warg.

However, if he dies, he dies.... Unlike "certain" people (I won't name names... except for Lalaith's

), I'm more than willing to see my favourites go by the wayside and rot.

Lalaith · 02-03-2006, 03:54 PM

Formendacil he post with stick-out-tongue, and speak with forked tongue.

Formendacil · 02-03-2006, 03:55 PM

Sssorry, but there'sss no sssnakesss to vote off. Sssss....

Kuruharan · 02-03-2006, 04:01 PM

Quote:

But the complete lack of uptake on my suggestion of the Chief Warg as today's candidate has got me reconsidering.

Well, if it would be agreeable to all concerned, perhaps the Chief Warg could be the one that we attempt to off tomorrow. However, I’ll wait for Lalaith’s decision on that.

At the moment (I think)

Gwaihir-8
Belladonna-6
William-1

Celuien · 02-03-2006, 09:27 PM

Hmm. No one is taking up the William challenge, Belladonna is behind two votes, and Gwaihir is in danger. So back to my original vote:

--WILLIAM
++BELLADONNA

Meneltarmacil · 02-03-2006, 09:58 PM

++Belladonna

Come on, we need to save the Eagle! And plus, Belladonna's supposed to be dead anyway.

Glirdan · 02-04-2006, 07:30 AM

I'm going to extend today to 10:30 so we can stay on track until the final.

Boromir88 · 02-04-2006, 10:08 AM

Wow interesting day. It seems like we have two candidates, one of which will have to leave of coures...hmmm, who to chose.

++Gwaihir

Because...

1) Friend of Gandalf. Even if Gandalf is off the island we can't have any of his friends hanging around either. Gandalf is like the mob boss, he's got connections everywhere, and we got to weed out those connections. Which includes Gwaihir.

2) What's this crap about Eagles not being able to carry Frodo (or anyone) to Mount Doom. I mean they all claim that they get tired, and they can't carry people farther then a certain point, but Gwaihir only says in The Field of Cormallen

Quote:

"I would bear ye," answered Gwaihir, "whither you will, even were you made of stone."

It seems to me the Eagles create this excuse just so they don't have to carry someone for a long distance, but in truth it was all a lie and Gwaihir proves it here.

3) With the Super Bowl approaching I still need to figure out what I want to eat and Spawn's picture of Gwaihir is quite appetizing. I've never had Eagle before.

Celuien · 02-04-2006, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

With the Super Bowl approaching I still need to figure out what I want to eat and Spawn's picture of Gwaihir is quite appetizing. I've never had Eagle before.

Sure you have. There were Eagles in the Super Bowl last year. They weren't very appetizing at all. They're even less appetizing now.

Why not give Gwaihir another chance? He might be tastier later on.

mormegil · 02-04-2006, 10:30 AM

E tu Boromire?

Boromir88 · 02-04-2006, 10:59 AM

E tu Boromire?

Oui, I show up in the most crucial points so my hidden agenda is never discovered. (Well also because a lack of time). Believe me or not, I don't want Belladonna to win, you already know one of my intentions which is to weed out all of Gandalf's deep web of connections.

Though I could hold off on Gwaihir and get rid of Belladonna since it will be no consequence to me, if thou shalt give me a good reason as to why it would be wise for me to do so. Bottomline is Belladonna will probably be gone in a few days, so she makes a weak opponent and one that can easily be cast off in the next few days so why get rid of her now?

02-03-2006, 05:11 AM	#801
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,648	++Belladona Took I may be able to pull off this bluff though it's coming close each day. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

02-03-2006, 06:15 AM	#804
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	++Belladonna Took __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

02-03-2006, 07:27 AM	#805
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	++BELLADONNA TOOK This is getting dull. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

02-03-2006, 08:18 AM	#808
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	++belladona took __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

02-03-2006, 08:43 AM	#809
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	In the words of C3PO (in his Simpsons incarnation) "You're so boring!" __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-03-2006, 09:25 AM	#814
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	What do we do when it gets dull? That's right! We go on a Dwarf-hunt! All those who would unite against the eviction of the last birdlife specimen on the island-come hither! ++BOMBUR (I must confess I got the wrong Dwarf at first. Quite revealing in itself.) __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso Last edited by Anguirel; 02-03-2006 at 09:30 AM.

02-03-2006, 09:27 AM	#815
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	On the other hand, this sudden vote for William is pretty interesting. Anybody else want to try and get rid of the other troll to see how Saucepan Man reacts? __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

02-03-2006, 10:19 AM	#816
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	+ + Gwaihir Bombur didn't get nearly enough to munch from Roac, and figures a bigger bird is a bigger meal. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-03-2006, 11:41 AM	#817
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Belladonna voted off now is a tactical error, people. While she's still around, and under threat, it's possible to set off all sorts of stalking horses and get them voted off by those seeking to protect her. Current state of play: Gwahir 4 Bella 4 William 1 Warg 1 Bombur 1 Now, I'd rather not vote for Gwahir unless I have to. I find Bombur rather tiresome but I did say to Kuru I wouldn't vote against dwarves and I shall honour that promise while I still can. And it's my opinion that there are too many baddies heading for the final. I think we should whittle them down to one or two, so I'd be happy to go for either William or Warg, although they're looking like wasted votes at the moment. Personally, I think Smaug has a lot of secret fans and will win this. Anyone who supports another candidate should think quite carefully now. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-03-2006, 12:08 PM	#818
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Lalaith Well, I'd much rather vote against a baddie myself. However, the Eagle Lord does have to go at some point. Today seems to be the day he's getting the votes. Tell you what, tomorrow I'll do my best to vote off a villainous villain of your choice. I completely agree with you about Smaug, by the way. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

02-03-2006, 12:39 PM	#820
Elu Ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anador Posts: 476	Ang, if you switch to Eagle Lord, Belladonna will be saved. I will vote for Bombur next. ++Ealge Lord/Gwaihir ________ BUY GRINDERS Last edited by Elu Ancalime; 03-03-2011 at 10:56 PM.

02-03-2006, 12:55 PM	#821
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Some people think it's boring? Well, the fact that half the voting population has been stuck in a Belladonna Goes trend might have something to do with that... Tell you what: let us kill off Belladonna, and things will get more interesting as the Anti-Belladonna Alliance collapses. Who knows, I "might" even vote on the same side as Kuruharan, SPM, or Anguirel... Oh, and Celuien, I think we're going to need your Belladonna vote again... ++ Belladonna Took __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

02-03-2006, 01:01 PM	#822
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Not so fast, Master Formendacil: ++GWAHIR. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-03-2006, 02:02 PM	#823
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Time to make some sacrifices in the name of the birds of the air. You forced me to this, Lalaith! --BOMBUR, ++BELLADONNA TOOK As for my reasoning: __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-03-2006, 02:07 PM	#825
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	The MEAD (Middle-Earth Air Division) needs you, Downers! If you ever watched an eagle soar or even a sparrow speed, for their sakes vote for the manipulative egg-thief Belladonna Took. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-03-2006, 02:16 PM	#826
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	++GWAIHIR As for my reasoning: Seriously, I wouldn't want to vote for Gwaihir, but if it's the only way to save Ms. Took, that's what I'll do. __________________ Fenris Wolf

02-03-2006, 02:59 PM	#827
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Right. This is it. Lucrezia dear, the Sword from a Star does not like you. There's going to be trouble... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

02-03-2006, 03:17 PM	#829
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Don't talk about ruffled feathers, Morm. It's a sore point right now and you'll make Ang even crosser than he already is. Look, Ang, most of us didn't want the noble Windlord off so soon. Don't blame us, blame the hobbit/women haters who painted us into a corner. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-03-2006, 03:54 PM	#831
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Formendacil he post with stick-out-tongue, and speak with forked tongue. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-03-2006, 03:55 PM	#832
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Sssorry, but there'sss no sssnakesss to vote off. Sssss.... __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

02-03-2006, 09:27 PM	#834
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Hmm. No one is taking up the William challenge, Belladonna is behind two votes, and Gwaihir is in danger. So back to my original vote: --WILLIAM ++BELLADONNA __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

02-03-2006, 09:58 PM	#835
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	++Belladonna Come on, we need to save the Eagle! And plus, Belladonna's supposed to be dead anyway. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

02-04-2006, 07:30 AM	#836
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	I'm going to extend today to 10:30 so we can stay on track until the final. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

02-04-2006, 10:30 AM	#839
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,648	E tu Boromire? __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

02-04-2006, 10:59 AM	#840
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,519	E tu Boromire? Oui, I show up in the most crucial points so my hidden agenda is never discovered. (Well also because a lack of time). Believe me or not, I don't want Belladonna to win, you already know one of my intentions which is to weed out all of Gandalf's deep web of connections. Though I could hold off on Gwaihir and get rid of Belladonna since it will be no consequence to me, if thou shalt give me a good reason as to why it would be wise for me to do so. Bottomline is Belladonna will probably be gone in a few days, so she makes a weak opponent and one that can easily be cast off in the next few days so why get rid of her now? __________________ Fenris Penguin