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(cue another trip to the bookshelf) Okay, so since G55's answer is deemed incorrect, I'm going to go with 'he died a traitor, and his name has gone out in shame from among Eldar and Noldoli'. hS |
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Not that one either.
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03-02-2020, 05:42 PM | #763 |
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Wanna know the true answer?
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Your turn.
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03-03-2020, 07:04 AM | #766 |
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I'm still not convinced that Meglin of the BoLT-Fall of Gondolin survived to reach the fires - the story specifically says he bounced three times on the way down. But we got there in the end, so I can't quibble too much.
Okay, time for one of my all-time favourite stories: Which bad guy did Tolkien (probably) imagine got chased up this tree? And by who? It's here on Google Maps, if that's any help to you. hS |
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I am imagining Tevildo, by Huan.
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One of his servants then? Meoita? Miaule?
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Alas
Google reveals nothing regarding that particular tree.
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In that case, how about Melkor, who was chased by Telimektar?
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03-03-2020, 08:51 AM | #774 |
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Correct, though arguably you should have said Melko. This is the great pine tree of Shugborough Hall, which is convincingly (in my mind) described as the inspiration for the House of a Hundred Chimneys at Tavrobel in the Book of Lost Tales. The Great Pine of Tavrobel was in the garden of that house, and as soon as I saw this tree I was positive Tolkien was thinking of it when he wrote that.
I've covered both the story and the connection - and shared this picture - in a previous thread if you want to know more. Over to you. hS |
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Oh, I saw that. How else do you think I found the answer?
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03-03-2020, 09:19 AM | #776 |
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All right, so, I ask thusly:
Which 'bad guy' inflicted a cursed wound upon (at least) two characters? (Nothing to do with Silm, for once.)
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03-03-2020, 09:27 AM | #777 |
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Witch King? Wounded Frodo and Eowyn.
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Yup.
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This "bad guy" made up his own name. Not to be confused with a not so bad guy whose name was not likely made up by him.
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Tar-Calion?
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03-03-2020, 08:14 PM | #781 |
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Nope.
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I think the Kings of Numenor are a good route to take, so... how about Tar-Herunumen/Ar-Adunakhor? The true "Lord of the West" is kind of morally washy at times, but certainly not a bad guy, and he's not said to have given himself the title.
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03-04-2020, 06:12 AM | #783 |
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Kings of Numenor are the wrong route to take. The answer is much less obscure.
Your logic for linking Ar-Adunakjor with both sentences of the clue is on the right track.
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Sauron? I am not sure whether he named himself or not, but he and Frodo were both called 'Lord of the Rings' in the books.
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I am wondering now if the clue is a little too vague. I can alter it or add more hints if you find you're working with too many possibilities.
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Am I in right time period at least
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With Sauron? Seeing as he existed from the start of the First Age until the end of the Third Age... yes, I suppose you are right, the answer is somewhere in between those time points.
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Then let me rephrase: is the answer in the Third Age?
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List of villains in Arda
Morgoth: Feanor named him that, so not him. Sauron: You said no to this. Gothmog: No. Ungoliant: No Saruman: He fits the first part, but not the second part. You said no to Kings of Numenor. Who else is left? Well, I suppose Turin would fit.....if he were a villain.....and if anyone else shared one of the names he gave himself.....
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Yes.
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And not all bad guys are necessarily villains. Don't look for villains who share names with goodies. The shared aspect that I had in mind writing the clue is not the character's name.
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Well, Smeagol is the bad guy who technically named himself, Gollum Gollum. And his friend and 'good counterpart' was Deagol.
If this one is incorrect too, then I'd appreciate a hint or two. Can't speak for Huey, though.
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Gollum is a bad guy (sort of) who made up his own name. Not to be confused with Smeagol, a name used to highlight the remaining goodness (or at least not quite badness) in the character. But close enough. Over to you.
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Here is a new puzzle in a form of a riddle:
I once lived in land so fair There, that which wasn't mine I had claimed I killed that land as I killed her And for that, I'll always be blamed (Long after I am dead.)
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Ar-Pharazon, the land being Numenor, and "her" being Miriel?
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Yup.
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This bad guy was once defeated by a seed-bearing structure. What was the other notable mechanism of defeat?
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If it means what I think it means, then the answer is 'being stabbed in the back by his own ally'.
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Mmm, not what I was thinking of. Who are you talking about?
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Saruman.
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A person defeated by a fruit.....a person defeated by a fruit.....Bill Ferny.....
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