If J.R.R. Tolkien saw the movies.... - Page 2 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sapphire_Flame · 06-07-2003, 05:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>As a (very amature ) writer myself, I can understand being more than a bit miffed at the slightest change. Maybe a line he was really proud of that wasn't included, a minor character that he was very fond of who was left out...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> My thoughts exactly. I think Tolkien would have been disappointed with some of the changes (removal of numerous characters, extreme character alterations of others...), but overall would have enjoyed the movies. The hype surrounding them is what he'd hate (and this is just what I think). What I want to know is if we're talking about if Tolkien lived until the movies came out, or if he were pulled from the 1950's when the books were first published. This would change his opinion drastically.If he were pulled here from the 50's and saw the movies, he would be stunned. Technology has advanced so much between then and now, and he would be amazed at some of the unusual scenes, characters, and locations. Personally, and if this were the case, I think he would wonder where we procured a Balrog and the Nazguls' steeds, not to mention the Eye. And where did we get hobbits and orcs? In either of the above stated cases, I think some things would touch him positively: the locations, dedication to detail (scale, ethnic differences in items, etc.), costumes, and of course the wonderful score. Some of these may have been able to amend for the (rather tragic) plot changes that PJ inserted. But, as a writer and artist, I think he would respect the creative liberties that PJ took. He might not have liked them, but he can understand that not everyone would have the same vision as he did. Of course, if Tolkien had been alive until this time, and PJ is as devoted to the books as he says he is, he would have gone to the Professor for advice on producing his masterwork. As an aspiring author myself, I know I wouldn't like anyone wantonly changing my work for no good reason. I don't think Tolkien would have hated the movies; he would have liked them, but would have been a little disappointed that PJ hadn't been true to the original work.

secretfire · 06-09-2003, 05:44 AM

Imagine you were Tolkien. What would you say about:1. Cate Blanchett as Galadriel 2. The portrayal of Galadriel

Orofaniel · 06-09-2003, 06:33 AM

I think he would have liked some of it, but not all. I think he would have been dissapointed that Tom Bombadil wasn't in the first movie...I was.....But hey, I'm not Tolkien!

Frodo 007 · 06-10-2003, 12:58 AM

I think Tolkien would have been impressed with the movies!Im not sure how he would like all the hype up over it though but i think he would be proud!

06-07-2003, 05:44 PM	#41
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>As a (very amature ) writer myself, I can understand being more than a bit miffed at the slightest change. Maybe a line he was really proud of that wasn't included, a minor character that he was very fond of who was left out...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>My thoughts exactly. I think Tolkien would have been disappointed with some of the changes (removal of numerous characters, extreme character alterations of others...), but overall would have enjoyed the movies. The hype surrounding them is what he'd hate (and this is just what I think). <P>What I want to know is if we're talking about if Tolkien lived until the movies came out, or if he were pulled from the 1950's when the books were first published. This would change his opinion drastically.<P>If he were pulled here from the 50's and saw the movies, he would be stunned. Technology has advanced so much between then and now, and he would be amazed at some of the unusual scenes, characters, and locations. Personally, and if this were the case, I think he would wonder where we procured a Balrog and the Nazguls' steeds, not to mention the Eye. And where did we get hobbits and orcs? <P>In either of the above stated cases, I think some things would touch him positively: the locations, dedication to detail (scale, ethnic differences in items, etc.), costumes, and of course the wonderful score. Some of these may have been able to amend for the (rather tragic) plot changes that PJ inserted. <P>But, as a writer and artist, I think he would respect the creative liberties that PJ took. He might not have liked them, but he can understand that not everyone would have the same vision as he did. Of course, if Tolkien had been alive until this time, and PJ is as devoted to the books as he says he is, he would have gone to the Professor for advice on producing his masterwork. As an aspiring author myself, I know I wouldn't like anyone wantonly changing my work for no good reason. <P>I don't think Tolkien would have hated the movies; he would have liked them, but would have been a little disappointed that PJ hadn't been true to the original work. __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

06-09-2003, 05:44 AM	#42
secretfire Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	Imagine you were Tolkien. What would you say about:<P>1. Cate Blanchett as Galadriel<BR>2. The portrayal of Galadriel __________________ "Leave now and never come back! (3x)" Dr. Gollum's prescribed mantra against multiple personality disorder.

06-09-2003, 06:33 AM	#43
Orofaniel Mighty Mouse of Mordor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lands of the North, where no man can reach.... Posts: 823	I think he would have liked some of it, but not all. I think he would have been dissapointed that Tom Bombadil wasn't in the first movie...I was.....But hey, I'm not Tolkien! __________________ I lost my old sig...somehow....screams and shouts ..............What is this?- Now isn't this fun? >_< .....and yes, the jumping mouse is my new avatar. ^_^

06-10-2003, 12:58 AM	#44
Frodo 007 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wellington, New Zealand (Middle-Earth Baby Yeah!!!) Posts: 85	I think Tolkien would have been impressed with the movies!Im not sure how he would like all the hype up over it though but i think he would be proud! __________________ Elen Sila Lúmenn' Omentielvo