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Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 07-21-2003, 12:34 PM

Is it Sheep, because Farmer Maggot didn't own one? I'm taking a huge guess here, as you can see...

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-21-2003, 06:45 PM

Quote:

in the first film you see a hobbit oulling a cow

Sounds painful. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] But the answer is not to be found in the films.

Nor is it anything to do with Farmer Maggot. Think who else kept animals ...

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 07-21-2003, 06:54 PM

Er...Butterbur didn't own sheep?

EDIT: I'm still hung up on the sheep! What is wrong with me? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ]

Lëowen · 07-21-2003, 07:58 PM

Nothing wrong with sheep. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Um... a pony was the only animal to travel with the Fellowship?

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 07-21-2003, 08:14 PM

Sheep, because it's the only animal not to be mentioned in the chapter "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony"?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-22-2003, 03:08 AM

Perhaps dog, as the only creature that appeared in a mythical or divine form (Huan, Carcharoth) rather than just mundanely.

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-22-2003, 11:36 AM

Nope, no one's got it yet. Look back to the clue I gave - it should provide a pretty big hint.

Lëowen · 07-22-2003, 03:26 PM

Could it be that a dog is not always found on a farmyard? Or that dogs can be found both in a farmyard and in other places? Or something like that?

Beren87 · 07-22-2003, 03:44 PM

Cow, as it was the only animal that Beorn didn't have?

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-22-2003, 05:24 PM

Bingo! Well done, Beren. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] There were dogs, ponies and sheep in Beorn's household, but alas no cows (well, as far as we are told anyway).

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-23-2003, 02:05 AM

Umm, so where did he get his milk?

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-23-2003, 08:09 AM

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Umm, so where did he get his milk?

Perhaps he drank sheep's milk. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

But even if he kept cows (which is quite possible), they are not mentioned as being part of his household, like the sheep, dogs and ponies which lay the table and bring the food etc for supper.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-24-2003, 02:20 AM

True, although Beren's exact words were not to this effect.

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Cow, as it was the only animal that Beorn didn't have?

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Never mind.

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-30-2003, 06:26 PM

Yes, but it would have been harsh not to give that one.

Beren, your go.

Beren87 · 08-28-2003, 07:02 PM

Good point Gwaihir, I didn't even think of that...

Anyway, next one, it's a short one, but that's because I'm a bit out of time.

Balrog
Dragon
Vampire

Dancing_Hobbit · 08-28-2003, 08:38 PM

all of these are too obvious, but i'll check anyway. Vampire because it has nothing to do with fire or Middle Earth (unless there's a vampire in one of the books i haven't read yet). my other thought is dragon because it can fly and the others can't, unless, of course, you argue that the Balrog's wings were not metaphorical but were functional (which, of course, belongs on a different thread). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-29-2003, 01:48 AM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] There sort of is a vampire, the Maia bat Thuringwethil who served under Sauron in the First Age (killed by Huan, I think it was (?)); therefore I will say Dragon. It is the only (as far as we know) non-Maiarin creature of the three.

08-29-2003, 09:32 PM

I would have to say Balrog cuz its the only one found in the caves of moria

Anything but Arwen · 09-06-2003, 11:59 AM

Is it vampire, because the others emit fire of some sort?

Gil-Galad · 09-06-2003, 12:47 PM

Vampires in the first age flyed around sometimes,the first dragons were wingless and balrogs, though depicted with wings, never flew any where?

Evisse the Blue · 09-08-2003, 05:13 AM

Balrogs because they are the only ones who still existed in the Third Age (?)

Anything but Arwen · 09-08-2003, 06:35 AM

But there was Smaug in the Third Age

Evisse the Blue · 09-08-2003, 04:49 PM

You're right, Anything but Arwen, I forgot about that.
Well then, Dragons because they are their own masters?

Anything but Arwen · 09-09-2003, 04:30 AM

Meh. Im still holding with my nice simple idea, that vamps are the only ones to spout flames, or general burny-ness

Anything but Arwen · 09-11-2003, 11:46 AM

Hey! Am I the only one who remembered this thing? Beren! Helllp!

Dancing_Hobbit · 09-11-2003, 07:48 PM

I feel deserted!! I want a reply, please!

Anything but Arwen · 09-15-2003, 06:07 AM

Eru has spoken to me... hurry up and answer the damn thread!

Evisse the Blue · 09-15-2003, 06:23 AM

I PM-ed Beren, I hope he checks here soon...

Beren87 · 09-15-2003, 02:55 PM

Ah, a few things to point out. First, it's customary to PM someone when they've forgotten about a thread, instead of making half a dozen useless posts.

Second, cursing isn't allowed on this form. I'm talking especially to Anything but Arwen, obviously. I've noticed you a few times now.

Last, but obviously not least, Master Windlord has the correct answer in that Dragons were not Maiar. I was debating whether or not to let the answer be Vampires, because they can't fly, but I thought someone would get annoyed at me throwing my personal opinion in there. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-17-2003, 05:55 PM

A few things to add. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

First, Beren is right. The occasional *bump* to bring the thread to the top is fine, but please try to avoid doing it too often. PM'ing the question-setter is a better idea, since the thread tends to get buried again pretty soon anyway. Or you can always wait 10 days and then ask a new question. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Secondly, I will edit a post if I consider that the language is unacceptable. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

And finally, who says that Dragons were not inhabited by the spirits of Maia? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 09-19-2003, 02:07 AM

Thanks. (I take it you mean 'balrogs' rather than 'vampires', though, Beren??)

And 'as far as we know' were my words, Saucepans [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]...

Dog
Bear
Bat
Eagle

Easy of course, as it's sort of hard to think of a questionto ask in this thread.

Evisse the Blue · 09-19-2003, 05:39 AM

Bear because it's the name of a character (Beorn = bear) who could shapeshift into a bear form?

Anything but Arwen · 10-04-2003, 01:10 PM

I was going to say bear, but because all the others are animals that can talk: Dog- Huan, Bat- Errrm, the one Luthien changes into in the Silmarillion, snd Eagle - Thorondor etc...

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-05-2003, 06:34 PM

I will say Dog, because all the others were present in one form or another at the Battle of Five Armies.

A bear was present, in the form of Beorn. Bats were there too, swarming above the Goblin army. And of course Bilbo's famous cry heralded the arrival of the Eagles.

But, as far as I know, there was no Dog present at the battle.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 10-06-2003, 02:45 AM

Go ahead, Saucepans.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-07-2003, 12:08 PM

It would be a pleasure. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Bear
Horse
Serpent
Swan

tom bombariffic · 10-07-2003, 01:11 PM

I'm going to go for horse, because the others were all forms taken by characters in the works of Tolkien...

-Sauron took the form of a snake when fighting Huan
-Beorn could take the appearance of a Bear
-I'm sure someone took the form of a Swan in the Silmarillion, but I can't remember who! I think it was a woman...hoom hoom. oh well.

just a guess

Bombariffic

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ]

Turambar · 10-07-2003, 01:20 PM

Elwing was changed to a seabird I think.

tom bombariffic · 10-07-2003, 01:43 PM

Yes, I think that was her...

Anyway, my final answer stands: HORSE!

Bombariffic

Telchar · 10-07-2003, 02:12 PM

Or maybe the OCO is the bear bacause a bear was not present on a banner in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields???

Black serpent on scarlet
White steed on a field of green
The swan of Dol Amroth

07-21-2003, 12:34 PM	#41
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Is it Sheep, because Farmer Maggot didn't own one? I'm taking a huge guess here, as you can see... __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

07-21-2003, 06:54 PM	#43
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Er...Butterbur didn't own sheep? EDIT: I'm still hung up on the sheep! What is wrong with me? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ] __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

07-21-2003, 07:58 PM	#44
Lëowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my computer chair, being smothered by my impossibly large cat Posts: 93	Nothing wrong with sheep. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Um... a pony was the only animal to travel with the Fellowship? __________________ Be individual! Join the millions of other people also being individual! Prevent Merry Abuse! Join S.A.M!

07-21-2003, 08:14 PM	#45
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Sheep, because it's the only animal not to be mentioned in the chapter "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony"? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

07-22-2003, 11:36 AM	#47
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope, no one's got it yet. Look back to the clue I gave - it should provide a pretty big hint. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-22-2003, 03:08 AM	#46
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Perhaps dog, as the only creature that appeared in a mythical or divine form (Huan, Carcharoth) rather than just mundanely.

07-22-2003, 03:26 PM	#48
Lëowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my computer chair, being smothered by my impossibly large cat Posts: 93	Could it be that a dog is not always found on a farmyard? Or that dogs can be found both in a farmyard and in other places? Or something like that? __________________ Be individual! Join the millions of other people also being individual! Prevent Merry Abuse! Join S.A.M!

07-22-2003, 03:44 PM	#49
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Cow, as it was the only animal that Beorn didn't have?

07-22-2003, 05:24 PM	#50
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Bingo! Well done, Beren. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] There were dogs, ponies and sheep in Beorn's household, but alas no cows (well, as far as we are told anyway). __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-23-2003, 02:05 AM	#51
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Umm, so where did he get his milk?

07-30-2003, 06:26 PM	#54
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Yes, but it would have been harsh not to give that one. Beren, your go. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-28-2003, 07:02 PM	#55
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Good point Gwaihir, I didn't even think of that... Anyway, next one, it's a short one, but that's because I'm a bit out of time. Balrog Dragon Vampire

08-28-2003, 08:38 PM	#56
Dancing_Hobbit Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: A fairyland of mists and shadows deep in the emerald wood. Posts: 56	all of these are too obvious, but i'll check anyway. Vampire because it has nothing to do with fire or Middle Earth (unless there's a vampire in one of the books i haven't read yet). my other thought is dragon because it can fly and the others can't, unless, of course, you argue that the Balrog's wings were not metaphorical but were functional (which, of course, belongs on a different thread). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Hobbits bow to nobody! ...Except their plates...

08-29-2003, 01:48 AM	#57
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] There sort of is a vampire, the Maia bat Thuringwethil who served under Sauron in the First Age (killed by Huan, I think it was (?)); therefore I will say Dragon. It is the only (as far as we know) non-Maiarin creature of the three.

08-29-2003, 09:32 PM	#58
ElvenEyesLegolas Guest Posts: n/a	I would have to say Balrog cuz its the only one found in the caves of moria

09-06-2003, 11:59 AM	#59
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	Is it vampire, because the others emit fire of some sort? __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

09-06-2003, 12:47 PM	#60
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Vampires in the first age flyed around sometimes,the first dragons were wingless and balrogs, though depicted with wings, never flew any where? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

09-08-2003, 05:13 AM	#61
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Balrogs because they are the only ones who still existed in the Third Age (?) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-08-2003, 06:35 AM	#62
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09-08-2003, 04:49 PM	#63
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	You're right, Anything but Arwen, I forgot about that. Well then, Dragons because they are their own masters? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-09-2003, 04:30 AM	#64
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	Meh. Im still holding with my nice simple idea, that vamps are the only ones to spout flames, or general burny-ness __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

09-11-2003, 11:46 AM	#65
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09-15-2003, 06:07 AM	#67
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09-15-2003, 06:23 AM	#68
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I PM-ed Beren, I hope he checks here soon... __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-15-2003, 02:55 PM	#69
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Ah, a few things to point out. First, it's customary to PM someone when they've forgotten about a thread, instead of making half a dozen useless posts. Second, cursing isn't allowed on this form. I'm talking especially to Anything but Arwen, obviously. I've noticed you a few times now. Last, but obviously not least, Master Windlord has the correct answer in that Dragons were not Maiar. I was debating whether or not to let the answer be Vampires, because they can't fly, but I thought someone would get annoyed at me throwing my personal opinion in there. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

09-17-2003, 05:55 PM	#70
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	A few things to add. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] First, Beren is right. The occasional bump to bring the thread to the top is fine, but please try to avoid doing it too often. PM'ing the question-setter is a better idea, since the thread tends to get buried again pretty soon anyway. Or you can always wait 10 days and then ask a new question. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Secondly, I will edit a post if I consider that the language is unacceptable. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] And finally, who says that Dragons were not inhabited by the spirits of Maia? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-19-2003, 02:07 AM	#71
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Thanks. (I take it you mean 'balrogs' rather than 'vampires', though, Beren??) And 'as far as we know' were my words, Saucepans [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]... Dog Bear Bat Eagle Easy of course, as it's sort of hard to think of a questionto ask in this thread.

09-19-2003, 05:39 AM	#72
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Bear because it's the name of a character (Beorn = bear) who could shapeshift into a bear form? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

10-04-2003, 01:10 PM	#73
Anything but Arwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world. Its OK, they know me here. Posts: 230	I was going to say bear, but because all the others are animals that can talk: Dog- Huan, Bat- Errrm, the one Luthien changes into in the Silmarillion, snd Eagle - Thorondor etc... __________________ The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits! (Dontchya just love my avatar? I got a "Tickle Me Boromir" one too...

10-05-2003, 06:34 PM	#74
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I will say Dog, because all the others were present in one form or another at the Battle of Five Armies. A bear was present, in the form of Beorn. Bats were there too, swarming above the Goblin army. And of course Bilbo's famous cry heralded the arrival of the Eagles. But, as far as I know, there was no Dog present at the battle. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-06-2003, 02:45 AM	#75
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Go ahead, Saucepans.

10-07-2003, 12:08 PM	#76
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	It would be a pleasure. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Bear Horse Serpent Swan __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-07-2003, 01:11 PM	#77
tom bombariffic Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the house of Tom Bombariffic Posts: 196	I'm going to go for horse, because the others were all forms taken by characters in the works of Tolkien... -Sauron took the form of a snake when fighting Huan -Beorn could take the appearance of a Bear -I'm sure someone took the form of a Swan in the Silmarillion, but I can't remember who! I think it was a woman...hoom hoom. oh well. just a guess Bombariffic [ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ] __________________ The 'hum' generated by an electric car is not in fact the noise of the engine, but that of the driver's self-righteousness oscillating at a high frequency.

10-07-2003, 01:20 PM	#78
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Elwing was changed to a seabird I think. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.