Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Then we have the battle of the egos - Formy, Noggin Boro and probably others.

While there is clearly ego in play, I wish it to stand for the record that my vigorous defence is solely motivated by a desire to see Tolkien's works as Tolkien's work--not as some fanfictionated, Hollywoodised, Dungeons-and-Dragons, Dwarf-belching crap.

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

It has been foresung that I should do what I have done. Dare you take arms against fate, Master Canonist? Know you then what befell Túrin, who in his ignorance called himself Turambar, but was caught in the fate he thought he had mastered?

.....

Why have we been called here together? Are we not all here to take the selfsame journey to Orodruin, using to the utmost all the strength of our wits and intuition, and trusting Eru that he will step into the resounding theme of evil and repay our estel?

Surely you, of all people, Master Felagund, have forgotten the Doom of Men? Just because the Ainulindalë says only that the Third Theme (the Children of Ilúvatar) were conceived in the mind of Eru alone does not mean you could not step outside of your most favoured book and realise that the Doom of Men means both that:

Men are not bound to fate.

And, I'm afraid, escaping the circles of Arda is looking entirely too easy at the moment.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now please Form and Nilp, even if the situation is grave we shouldn't forget the basic principles the B-W has established. So no flaming or personal vendetta's here. They are not only against good manners but also tend to confuse our preliminary task of finding out the villains.

You'll clearly never be made moderator if you can't distinguish between flaming and a serious discussion. Nilp and I may differ on several key points, but at least we can dialogue, which is more than can be said for certain members.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I hate to be a spoilsport, but funny as posting IC is, I think it could be done to a lesser extent. For if the day keeps going on like this, I might have to *shudders* vote randomly. And I just noticed I can't take Nerwen's posts seriously when she's talking like that. (Aganzir)

I think FormenDAGA, villainous though he may be, will agree with me when I say that DAY 1s are .

Need we continue these modes of conversation the next DAY? It would present an air of versimilitude in the game but aid in our hunting of evil it does not.

The problem is that you have taken on personae, not mere occupations.

Well, it is making me laugh.

[Nerwen]

Okay, okay, I get the message. Besides, I'm giving myself a headache. Tough luck, Shasta, you weren't around when I needed you, so you're out of a job now. (Perhaps you could translate my earlier posts, for the benefit of those who aren't bilingual?)

I still won't take anyone dissing the movies in general or Legolas in particular though (Mmmn! Leggy! So hawt!)

Nilp, I still have no idea what that list of yours was all about, so can you please explain? I'm automatically suspicious of people who make lists of names with no explanations. On the other hand, I don't think a hacker/wolf would have said this:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

I should warn you though that the shape your thoughts take form on our screens makes you vulnerable to those confused by Melkor's discord, or perchance you know it already. Votes for you for 'IC reasons' may well disguise the perversion of their thoughts.

EDIT: X'd with Formendacil, Nilpaurion.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Oh why do you think so?

I feel I should probably leave this for Nilpaurion to explain... he practically has a Ph.D in "and everything shall redound to Eru's glory"ism.

That and it's the recurring motif of Middle-earth: Evil may triumph for a time, but Good is ultimately always triumphant--even if you have to wait an Age for it.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I hate to be a spoilsport, but funny as posting IC is, I think it could be done to a lesser extent. For if the day keeps going on like this, I might have to *shudders* vote randomly. And I just noticed I can't take Nerwen's posts seriously when she's talking like that.

Umm... that is the whole point of IC posting, is it not? On Day 1 there are no patterns and merely random accusations and voting. If the IC persists into Day 2, then it is well and good to complain, but on Day 1 there is nought else to go by, in any game, for the seeming randomness of the Wolves will only be brought to clarity in hindsight.


And... speaking of random voting, I won't be back before NIGHTfall (work all day, then an ordination), so suspect me all you like, but you'll not be able to accuse me of sneaking onto any bandwaggons.

++Nogrod

Because what would make a better cover for a hacker looking to overthrow the existing Mods than a pathetic wannabe-Mod? No one would suspect it.

Except I just did.

Well, so much for that theory... but votes are irretractable, and there really is no way to analyse one's way to a decent conclusion on Day 1.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Surely you, of all people, Master Felagund, have forgotten the Doom of Men? Just because the Ainulindalë says only that the Third Theme (the Children of Ilúvatar) were conceived in the mind of Eru alone does not mean you could not step outside of your most favoured book and realise that the Doom of Men means both that:

Men are not bound to fate. (FormenDAGA)

How then, Milord of the North, do you explain the woe that Túrin betided? Surely it was not by Morgoth wrought, most puissant though he may be of all creation. Was it not the weavings of fate enmeshed in the lives of him and of those that he loved?

Nilp, I still have no idea what that list of yours was all about, so can you please explain? (Nerwen)

It was a jest involving our locations in the real world, where I present myself as the only one from 'evil lands' (i.e., Rhûn)--unless you count the desolate wastes of Araman as evil. (FormenDAGA and Boromir88, at the least, would beg to differ.)

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

That and it's the recurring motif of Middle-earth: Evil may triumph for a time, but Good is ultimately always triumphant--even if you have to wait an Age for it.

But we're not exactly in Middle-earth now. We're in the Barrow-Downs meeting.

Originally Posted by Form

Umm... that is the whole point of IC posting, is it not? On Day 1 there are no patterns and merely random accusations and voting. If the IC persists into Day 2, then it is well and good to complain, but on Day 1 there is nought else to go by, in any game, for the seeming randomness of the Wolves will only be brought to clarity in hindsight.

Yes, but in my opinion there has been enough completely IC posting for day 1. At some point posts must begin to have some serious things as well.

Originally Posted by Form

++Nogrod

Because what would make a better cover for a hacker looking to overthrow the existing Mods than a pathetic wannabe-Mod? No one would suspect it.

Ooh a hacker trying to kill someone who BW might well have chosen for a mod before his death! Nog's a sneaky guy, I wouldn't put it past him not to reveal he's been chosen and keep going on with that I-wish-I-were-a-mod thing.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Ooh a hacker trying to kill someone who BW might well have chosen for a mod before his death! Nog's a sneaky guy, I wouldn't put it past him not to reveal he's been chosen and keep going on with that I-wish-I-were-a-mod thing. (Aganzir)

Eager for his blood, are we now, dear?

Eager for anyone's innocent blood, perchance?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Eager for his blood, are we now, dear?

Eager for anyone's innocent blood, perchance?

Oh no that is not possible at all! I am always sweet and innocent. *neg-reps Nilp*

I'll be off for some hours now.

[Nerwen]

There's something very funny going on here. It's like I'm in the wrong fan club. I thought we'd talk about interesting stuff like who's hotter, Leggy or Aragon? Instead people go about some other movie or something with people who are, like, totally not in the real movie!!! It's weird!!!

–Okay, things have started heating up a bit.

Maybe I'm taking things too personally, but I'm not keen on the The Sixth Wizard's first and so far only post. He should have known perfectly well that nobody is going to keep up this IC stuff the whole game. Looks like very forced reasoning.

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

I'm not prepared to vote anyone yet; besides, I have to go. Back in a few hours. Hopefully, there will be more to go on by then.

I'm off to dream of Leggy!!! ZMOG HE IS TEH AWESOME!!!111!!!

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

ppl who do lots of loNg posts sayng nUthing & then maek liSts taht dont maek sence r up 2 sumthing IMHO.

Sometimes in the nothing the most is said.

Originally Posted by Agan

Yes, but in my opinion there has been enough completely IC posting for day 1. At some point posts must begin to have some serious things as well.

Maybe some of these post have seriousness hidden within them. It's always a matter of reading between the lines. And sometimes the more people hide behind ICs the easier it can become to decipher votes on Day 2. Also being IC has, in the past, been a way for hackers to fly under the radar for a few days. I'd say don't encourage or discourage IC posts, some may be more useful tomorrow or some may remain simple rubbish and mean nothing. If for no other reason many are quite amusing.

That's all I'll add on IC posts. Simply because I know I will be gone in two hours and I won't be back before night falls. So I will be poking in periodically to check posts and review old ones in order to cast my vote.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I think Nerwen is too silly to be a wolf. Come on, this thing she has with Legolas?!? PREDICTABLE!!!!1 Oh wow, lets all be a little girl, and like legolas. BORING!!! What about the other people in the movie who are just as hot? I think this is a serious issue. Also the way she was VERY rude to me earlier, it all adds up, she is too IMMATURE to be a hacker..

Anyway I think people like Kitanna and Mithalwen are way creepier.

[Kitanna]

I was hoping someone would post before I have to go to work. But since no one has I will just present my list of what I think thus far. The list is based on those who have posted and the impression their post(s) made on me.

Moderately Suspicious-
Agan, Nilp, & Form- Their back and forth posts together suggests a hacker among them. Maybe even two, but I am more inclined to believe there is just one. Though I am not so sure as to which one yet. Form is the only one to have voted thus far, but I feel no malice with his vote or reasoning toward early voting.
Nerwen- Her short, IC posts obviously say little, but her more serious posts give little to go on as well. I'd like to see what she has to say about the Agan/Nilp/Form brawl she mentioned in her last post.
The Elf-warrior- A few yes or no questions, but hasn't said anything since. I put moderately suspicious because even though the two posts were in character Elf-warrior was quick to jump to his own defense.

Originally Posted by Elf-Warrior

For the record, I am not a party to the murder of the Barrow-Wight.

I find it suspicious because no one had put out any lists or anything yet. It always unsettles me for early defenses/ for the record statements so early.
The Sixth Wizard- Quick to advocate a vote for Nerwen. It seems in character, but I'll label this as a gut feeling because I don't get much from his post.
Unsure-
Kath- She said she wouldn't be around much today, so for right now I have no concern for her. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Boromir 88- I really just want to see more from him before forming more than a joke suspicion from my first post.
satansaloser2005- Nothing much can be gathered from her first post.
Eonwe- Same as many of the others here in my unsure bin.
Durelin, Eomer, Mith & Shasta- ^ Same

I have no suspicions that absolutely scream out to me as "Hacker!" which is why I have two categories here. Right now there's no one person I feel too strongly about in regards to guilt or innocence. So my vote (whcih will be in the next twenty minutes) will be selected from my moderately suspicious list. I can hope and dream there's an influx of posts between then and now, but I doubt that. So we shall see, eh?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Men are not bound to fate.
.

Well at the Tolkien society seminar I attended last Saturday that was with Free Will one of the major themes and without preempting the reports I shall write over the weekend both for the Downs and possibly Amon Hen, I can say that it isn't that simple. Oops that will no doubt to incur the wrath of the canonicist & the one upper and doesn't really get us any further on.

Kitanna speaks wisely. Though noone has yet (that I have noticed)expressed a hatred of Day Ones - though that was quite a common condition, it tended to be followed by a failure to see Night one so I believe it has a latent form! This is a big group and it may make it easier for people to keep a low profile so I would rather people spoke (even in eyeplitting chatspeak) than not. It is possible to make useful points in an amusing way and those games where noone says anything or merely repeats others' words without adding any insight or useful comment are tedious. Only danger is that the amusement can become a distraction....

OK I am going to read through and see if there is any substance in some of the more complex posts I only skimmed before, then I need to get something to eat and will be back for a long spell but not to the end... hopefully I will have a better idea of who to vote for by then rather than just choosing the most annoying!!!

[Kitanna]

++ Nerwen

She jumps forth because though she has been mostly in character, I had seen something that raises my eyebrow.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

ppl who do lots of loNg posts sayng nUthing & then maek liSts taht dont maek sence r up 2 sumthing IMHO.

Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.

[Nogrod]

Early votes may be a bit harder to justify in general - I mean to give credible grounds for them - but I do not like the way either Form or Kit give their votes.

Form backs it twice: saying it's a random one and using IC reasons (I know he used to be the most staunch Day1-hater there was but still that is pretty much downgrading the whole Day 1). Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

That's not much I must say. If I'd need to guess I'd say Form is the hacker from the two, but the thing that I disagree with him so heavily over the usefulness of Day1's may cloud my vision here - and the fact that "just randomly" he voted for me...

I will be around later toDay a bit more and try to do something more constructive then. Gah. This has been pathetic from me (but sorry no time now).

[Eönwë]

There's not much to work with, but...

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Agan, Nilp, & Form- Their back and forth posts together suggests a hacker among them. Maybe even two, but I am more inclined to believe there is just one. Though I am not so sure as to which one yet. Form is the only one to have voted thus far, but I feel no malice with his vote or reasoning toward early voting.?

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful. She's just randomly posting stuff. Spamming the thread, methinks. In fact, maybe she's our spammer. Or is that Nilp. He's not making much sense or anything of his posts. I'd better ponder this further...

edit: to bolden names.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

There's something very funny going on here. It's like I'm in the wrong fan club. I thought we'd talk about interesting stuff like who's hotter, Leggy or Aragon? Instead people go about some other movie or something with people who are, like, totally not in the real movie!!! It's weird!!!

–Okay, things have started heating up a bit.

Maybe I'm taking things too personally, but I'm not keen on the The Sixth Wizard's first and so far only post. He should have known perfectly well that nobody is going to keep up this IC stuff the whole game. Looks like very forced reasoning.

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

I'm not prepared to vote anyone yet; besides, I have to go. Back in a few hours. Hopefully, there will be more to go on by then.

I'm off to dream of Leggy!!! ZMOG HE IS TEH AWESOME!!!111!!!

Sacred bovine! She speaks English!

You know, this TOTALLY reminds me of Goblet of Fire, where stupid Fudge was being played by the Bulgarian minister. "You speak English?!?!?!?" "Yeah, totally, but it's fun watching you make an idiot out of yourself." Alternatively, if any of you would take your noses out of your Silms and watch The Interpreter, you'd see much the same thing, except it isn't nearly as funny. The entire UN ends up looking like idiots though; then again, what else isn't new?



Okay, sorry for being gone so long. Erm, you know the scene in The Princess Bride where Buttercup pushes Westley down the ravine outside the firswamp and he goes *roll roll roll pain ouch roll*? I pretty much did that last night. Heh so I kind of felt like a long nap. ANYWAY, I'm going to go read the posts again and maybe get my Nancy Drew on.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now please Form and Nilp, even if the situation is grave we shouldn't forget the basic principles the B-W has established. So no flaming or personal vendetta's here. They are not only against good manners but also tend to confuse our preliminary task of finding out the villains.

Originally Posted by Formendacil

You'll clearly never be made moderator if you can't distinguish between flaming and a serious discussion. Nilp and I may differ on several key points, but at least we can dialogue, which is more than can be said for certain members.

So even when Noggie tries to calm things down, Formy lashes back at him . Harsh? I think so.

Maybe Formendacil is actually our spammer. He's disguising his troublemaking as sensible or simply long posts. He's already set up a discord around him (reminds you of Melkor, does it not). He's managed to pick a fight with almost half of us (ok, I exaggerate) and it's not even the end of Day 1.

In fact maybe he's "For men to kill", i.e. a werewolf. They also like stirring things up and caussing trouble among innocents.



And the Elf-Warrior is just scary.

[Mithalwen]

Well Nogrod you have participated more than many already.

As for the votes - I found Nerwen annoying but I don't know if that is just the first day banter or something more sinister. It is such a change from her usual calm, almost calculating style that I find it hard to judge. Maybe she is just having fun.

Formys vote was ... interesting .. I know day one can produce random votes but this seemed to have more to it ... is there some vendetta that I haven't noticed? I do remember Formy used to hate Day ones - I was thinking of him in my previous post.

And there are still a lot of people who I haven't even looked at really..... and it is a bit quieter than I expected - even from those who aren't mourning their separation from my fair homeland . I hope there might be a bit more to look at before I too have to vote and go....

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Agan

But we're not exactly in Middle-earth now. We're in the Barrow-Downs meeting.

From the RPG proposal on the discussion thread:

Starting Location: Rivendell, Middle-earth (for the council)
Likely Destination: Mt. Doom, Mordor, Middle-earth

-------------

The game takes place in the Seventh Age around the year 2008.

Anyway.

Eomer amuses me. He feels frighteningly familiar... Boro amuses me. A lot. There's something about Formendacil's attitude I like. Kitanna is boring, and her vote is even more boring. The Sixth Wizard amuses me. Nogrod's role is just too Nogrod. I want to see how long Nilp keeps his role up. Elf-warrior's first post amuses me.

I guffaw at this:

Originally Posted by Eonwe

Wow, I can't believe the Barrow-Wight is dead. How will we survive without him? How will this forum survive without him? What are we going to do?

I say we get these hackers!

Everyone I have not mentioned yet...don't feel too bad.

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Eomer

This pshycology class basicaly says that, like, people, will show themselves if ur clever enough to see inside their souls. So because I've been taking these classes I think I could really help us find the hackers.

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

WARE R U GUYS??!!!111!!!!!

'ware' the whether the weather of what? I think I was sleeping, because that is what normal people do in my timezone at 5 am.

Nerwen seems thoroughly drenched in the art of chatspeak, maybe she knows how to translate hacker. Or Boro's dictionary does.
Either way, I find her amusing. We should keep her around and see what happens. That or, some of the hackers are taking full advantage of our complete attention to try and translate her posts. Hmmm, conflict.

Form reminds me of an eagle scout. Which, if he is conspiring with the hackers, that could be a bit dangerous.

Sorry that I don't have much to say, but it's a bit of a busy day. More than likely I am going to have to vote randomly toDay, unfortunately. So much for sleeping in.

~ Ka

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

Forced? If you believe so. But I would rather vote for one who raised my suspicions for even a remote reason on Day 1, then randomly pick a name from a hat.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by THE Ka

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.




~ Ka

Well Ka, as an atheist, Freud means the innermost being. We certainly could interpret today's events as being caused by the Ids of the hackers getting the upper hand, a conflict of libido and thanatos. Of course psychoanalysis is not a quick fix and the interpretation of dreams is probably not appropriate at this stage. We could try some free association? Or maybe Jung and see what the collective unconscious can provide lets not go with Laing - that could cause all sorts of problems.

Aiee I got distracted again. I have had a look at the posting numbers and Nerwen is certainly noisiest by a long way but then others have been sooo quiet. Over posting can be significant but so can quietness. I can stay about an hour but I do hope things will pick up. It seems a bit ironic that two "talkers" are the only ones voted for so far. I thought this would be a super noisy game but it seems to be being played by a lot of trappists so far.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Whoa, Mithalwen, you're totally, well, dodgy to me. You keep talking about there being a lack of talking and how people have to say more, but, really, two things ........... 1. ur not saying much urself and 2. it's day 1 silly!?! There's not much going on!!!1?

Maybe your tryng to act all like your helpful and all that jazz?!? Because your laboring the point.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

This is not a rhetorical question, I want an answer. Why does it look like that? Is there some special way wolves can make people around them talk like they do? We three have just caught your attention, but is there something that should really suggest that at least one of us is a wolf?
I could ask the same from Kitanna. Just how do back and forth posts together suggest that there's a hacker or two?

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I'd say don't encourage or discourage IC posts, some may be more useful tomorrow or some may remain simple rubbish and mean nothing.

And also some OOC posts may be more useful tomorrow while some remain simple rubbish. The question is whether I rather read posts written in chat speak or proper English.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Form backs it twice: saying it's a random one and using IC reasons (I know he used to be the most staunch Day1-hater there was but still that is pretty much downgrading the whole Day 1). Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

I agree. Otherwise at least Kitanna feels somewhat innocentish, though, and I wouldn't vote for either of them now based only on that.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful.

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself!

**

Guilty
Elf-Warrior. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Sixth. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Durelin. This is my most random suspicion this far, and I don't know a certain reason for it but her post(s) brought the word 'cobbler' into my mind.
Nerwen. She makes me uncomfortable and looks both guilty and innocent so I rather label her guilty. I don't know - there's something in the way she suspects people.
sally. I feel uneasy about her for a reason I don't know.

Innocent
Mith
Kitanna
Nogrod
Eönwë

Neither
Kath
Shasta
Ka
Nilp
Boro
Eomer
Form
Rikae
McC

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on.

Doesn't make it her idea

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I have had a look at the posting numbers

How do you do that?

[Mithalwen]

Well at the risk of sounding suspiciously helpfulyou go to the Mirth thread list and click on the number of replies and it will give you a breakdown by member. It is always interesting to know who has been posting and how much.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Doesn't make it her idea

But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

How do you do that?

By clicking Replies between Last Post and Views on the Mirth (or any else) forum.

I am planning to vote in an hour since I would love to get to sleep a bit earlier than during the last few days, and if I had to vote now it'd probably be for Sixth.

edit: xed with Mith

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything.

True, true.

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Lobelia

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself!

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest?

I find this level of regression a bit alarming Lobelia, but I assure you that I am willing to put the past aside for the sake of this game if you are. Right now, I don't find you that suspicious. I mean, I can't see Brinn making you a wolf/hacker again after the last few games. It's too predictable.
If you are, then I know that the universe has lost all sense of surprise.

Thanks Mith. I was thinking about the Id, but I assumed that Eomer might have meant something a bit more on the Superego spectrum. Then I became a bit confused. Freud has never been one of my favourable interests, but I try to make sure I can identify a bit of his behavior.
I'm more in the sociological field. In which case, I would have to say that Eomer's experience in the business subculture has become one of his ascribed roles, and possibly a master status in his reasoning. Though, his assumed role as a form member is causing a bit of social inconsistency. Which is perfectly fine, we all have some inconsistency.

I'm sure a bunch of people are gun-ho about voting for Agan-Nilp-Form bangwagon, but I dunno. I'll feel horribly disappointed in the universe if Agan at least is a hacker out of the three. I need an existential detective, and more time on choosing my horribly random vote to go with all the life drama of the first day.

~ Ka

[Nogrod]

My dad went asleep and I seem to have what... 1½ hours to do something useful. Okay. I'll start with having a cigarette (gah, there goes the mod-status ).

I still have my faith on Day 1's being possibly productive and I'm not going to give it up just because of one Day1 when I have not had a chance to do any thinking beside the PC. *fits the IC-situation as well! *

[Boromir88]

I was wondering how long Nerwen would keep up her wildly headaching causing chatspeak. I am wondering whether some are suspicious of her because they actually believe she is a hacker, or if she's just annoying us all with her chatspeak.

Case and point, Kitanna's suspicions and The Sixth's:

Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.~Kitanna

Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

b) Nerwen knows this and if she really is a wolf and she survives, she will go under the radar later in the game. (I personally am NOT going to read that in a longer post than three lines, it hurts my head)~The Sixth

Kitanna's reasoning makes her look innocent (to me), she brings up a valid reason for the suspicions against Nerwen. I disagree with what Nogrod thinks about it.

Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.

The Sixth's reasoning is forced, since Nerwen is annoying, let's lynch her before she slips under the radar. And oh plus there's no one else.

teh n00b eönwë casts random suspic10ns on ppl. probaly just his r0le. he mite be usng it as cover tho.~Nerwen

Don't assume Eonwe is a noob, or we could all be in trouble. In a past life Eonwe was my wolf partner and he survived longer than me. His cunning had the village in a circle until the seer spotted him.

Eonwe's approach so far reminds me of one that I have tried. Aggressive, in your face, asking questions, and sparking responses. I must say I am much better at it than he, but I think he's innocent.

More will come after dinner.

[Rikae]

Sorry I'm late, I didn't realize the day was starting (I was reading HoME for the 16th time).

The Elf-Warrior just seems evil to me, although I couldn't quite explain it - a sort of nervous, tense vibe, much like Maglor's wife observed in Legolas after he swallowed his own hand and turned into a werewolf.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

How do you figure? I didn't have that impression at all. Nilp and Form, in particular, have really given nothing to go on game-wise, so why latch on to them? (Not that giving nothing to go on will be perfectly fine as the game continues).

I'll second Nogrod on Kitanna's vote being eyebrow-raising. It is overly self-conscious, somehow.

Red

Kitanna
The Elf Warrior

Orange

Nerwen
Aganzir
Sally
Eönwë

Yellow

Shasta
Boro
Kath
Durelin
Eomer
Nogrod
Sixth
THE Ka
Form
Nilp
Mith
McCaber

Green

Rikae

EDIT: X'd with Boro, Nog, Ka

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I've been fishing, fishing for less than nonsense in this sea of Melkor's discord . . . and very few rise up to take the bait. How am I to fish for the truth now?

Aganzir doesn't feel like she's playing any chord of Melkor's dissonance yet.

Nerwen, as Mandos has told me earlier, looks innocent.

Kitanna and Eomer worries the mind of Manwë.

My mother Mithalwen is in Lórien's peace.

PS. Boromir o' the Numbers, this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.

[Mithalwen]

Why Sixth? I know he has only posted once but he wasn't entirely IC?

Formendacil's vote is still niggling me a bit ..... and he was very pompous and used eucatastrophe twice.... that word - I never really understand it .... but he was first up. Could be most annoying.... despite great competition.

My head hurts ... I have lists but the categories are "Trappists, Loons and Irritants" I think I had better keep that one to myself. However some of the Trappists have been amusing even when they have made their isolated posts. Kitanna has been very confident, perhaps the least in character though the last post could be taken either as IC or serious and therefore somewhat defensive.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay, sorry, change of plans. My mother invited me (okay, I begged....heh) over for dinner, which never happens, so I need to head out. I might be back before deadline, but I'll vote now just in case.

Sarcastically, I'm the only one allowed to be a grammar Nazi on here, but we all know that's not the case. In reality, Sixth's post seems just....wrong. It's the first day and, as much as I hate to say it, at the moment there's not much we can get from toDay. Sixth is trying too hard to reason. Does that make sense? Blah. Anyway....

++Sixth



By the way, where are Rikae and McCobbler, erm, Cabbie?


Anyway, I need to head out. I'm bloody starving. Hopefully I'll see you all either before the end of the Day or toMorrow. Til then, Bye! Au revoir! Adios! Ciao! Ting tao tay! *waves dumbly*



EDIT: x'd with everything since Ka's 71....heh, including Rikae.

[satansaloser2005]

By the by, Nerwen, enjoy my avvie. I made it for the end of the Doctor Who season and decided you might enjoy it for the purposes of the game.




Also, I'm helping at camp out west tomorrow and probably won't be back right at the beginning of the Day. Just so you all know.


*scurries in search of foodstuffs*

[Mithalwen]

I really don't see why Sixth is that suspicious and it slightly worries me that Sally has jumped into vote for him after Agan and Boro have voiced suspicion - it looks a bit opportunistic and safe.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by THE Ka

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest?

I know I have serious traumas and I'm working on them, I really am! But this time only your role tempted me to do that.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.

I think the tone is somehow apologetic or over-explanatory. But I'm not too concerned about her because her posting looks more innocentish otherwise.

Originally Posted by Rikae

much like Maglor's wife observed in Legolas after he swallowed his own hand and turned into a werewolf.

Have you been reading some fanfic of your own writing?

There's something that is bugging me about Rikae right now. Today seems to be one of those days I can't find proper reasons for my thoughts, but something makes me uneasy. I don't know... She looks like she was weaving a complicated web with truth and lies shattered all around. That's the best I can explain the feeling.
Or making shoes.

Originally Posted by Mith

Why Sixth? I know he has only posted once but he wasn't entirely IC?

I assume you were asking this from me, but I'll answer even if you weren't.
He had one IC joke in his first (and only) post, and then he accused Nerwen, half-jokingly and also with IC reasons. Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on. That's why I'm also suspicious of Nerwen.
Out of those who have posted little and mostly in character, he's the most suspicious.

edit: xed with sally and Mith