Arda Cup Soccer 2008- Phantasy- er, I Mean Fantasy Thread

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I shall call mine the Silmarillion Squad.

I'd do something as grand as Eomer's but I don't want to steal his thunder.

[the phantom]

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)
G - Elrond (Rivendell)
DF - Este (Taniquetil)
DF - Aule (Taniquetil)
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)
MF - Arien (Valimar)
MF - Melkor (Angband)
MF - the phantom (T-I-G)
FW - Feanor (Formenos)
FW - Gothmog (Angband)
FW - Tulkas (Valimar)

Cailin
G - Old Man Willow (Breeland)
DF - Vana (Taniquetil)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G)
MF - Treebeard (Isengard)
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)
MF - Aragorn (Rivendell)
MF - Boromir II (Rivendell)
MF - Bilbo (Alqualonde)
FW - The Witch King (Mordor)

Gwath
G- Erkenbrand (Helm’s Deep)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Ar-Gimilzor (Armenelos)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)

Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Azog (Moria)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Finwe (Tuna)

Skip
G- Mandos (Taniquetil)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Tar-Aldarion (Romena)
MF- Eöl (Gondolin)
MF- Durin's Bane (Moria)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Earendil (Valimar)
FW- Turin (Hithlum)
FW- Nogrod (T-I_G)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)

Ang
G – Galadriel (Lothlorien)
DF – Goldberry (Breeland)
DF – Luthien (Doriath)
DF – Celegorm (Formenos)
DF – Curufin (Formenos)
MF – Daeron (Doriath)
MF – Maglor (Formenos)
MF – Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW – Maedhros (Formenos)
FW – Maeglin (Gondolin)
FW – Eomer (Edoras)

Lhuna
G - Huan (Formenos)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Ulmo (Valimar)
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)
MF - Eowyn (Edoras)
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond)
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Varda (Taniquetil)
FW - Fingolfin (Hithlum)

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil)
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)
MF- Elwë (Doriath)
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)

Form
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)
DF- Frodo (Alqualonde)
MF- Amrod (Formenos)
MF- Amras (Formenos)
MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell)
FW- Sauron (TIG)
FW- Isildur (Romena)
FW- Glorfindel (Rivendell)

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)
G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Saeros (Doriath)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)
DF- Gelmir (Nargothrond)
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath)
MF- Idril (Gondolin)
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil)
MF- Nerdanel (Tuna)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
FW- Smaug (Erebor)
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

McCaber
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Turgon (Gondolin)
DF- Gimli (Lothlorien)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Boromir I (Minas Tirith)
MF- Elrohir (Rivendell)
FW- Gothmog (Angband)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)

[Elmo]

Can I call my team 'Dwarves the Opposition' ?

[Nogrod]

My team will be called Beasts and Beauties.

[Nogrod]

The points after the first round are here.

The C means that the player has gotten a yellow card. It has not been decided yet but I’d say a yellow card means -1 points and a straight red card means -3. But that remains to be decided by tp.

The tallies for players will come later but from this tally everyone can add up their individual points…

ALQUALONDE
G- Olwe 1
DF- Earwen
DF- Cirdan C
DF- Frodo C
DF- Elwing
MF- Eriol
MF- Lindo C
MF- Bilbo
MF- Uinen
FW- Osse C
FW- Gil-Galad

AMON RHUD
G- Ebor 1
DF- Sagroth
DF- Forweg
DF- Forhend
MF- Avranc C
MF- Ragnir
MF- Asgon
MF- Gethron
MF- Grithnir
MF- Algund
FW- Androg

ANGBAND
G- Carcharoth
DF- Balrog 2
DF- Uldor C
DF- Balrog 3 C
DF- Balrog 4 C
MF- Balrog 5
MF- Balrog 6
MF- Ulfast 3 + C
MF- Melkor 3 + C
FW- Gothmog 4
FW- Ancalagon 4 + C

ANNUMINAS
G- Arvedui 1
DF- Tarcil C
DF- Elendur
DF- Earendur
DF- Tarandor C
MF- Arveleg
MF- Argeleb 3
MF- Eldacar 3
MF- Arantar C
MF- Valandur 5 + C
FW- Araphor 4

ARMENELOS
G- Elros 4
DF- Tar Atanamir 4
DF- Tar Ciryatan 4
DF- Tar-Telperien 4
MF- Ar Zimrathan 1 + C
MF- Tar Calmacil 1
MF- Ar Adunakhor 4
MF- Ar Gimilzor 4 + C
FW- Tar Ancalimon 4
FW- Tar Minastir
FW- Ar Pharazon 4

BREELAND
G- Old Man Willow 1
DF- Bob
DF- Goldberry
DF- Nob C
MF- Odo Proudfoot C
MF- Sardoc Brandybuck
MF- Harry C
MF- Butterbur 3
MF- The Barrow-Wight 3
FW- Bill Ferny 4
FW- Tom Bombadil 4

BRETHIL
G- Hardang 1
DF- Hundad
DF- Nienor
DF- Handir
MF- Brandir C
MF- Manthor
MF- Dorlas
MF- Halmir
MF- Hunthor
MF- Haleth
FW- Haldir

DORIATH
G- Melian 4
DF- Elured 2
DF- Luthien 2
DF- Elurin 2
DF- Saeros 2 + C
MF- Nellas C
MF- Daeron
MF- Dior 3
MF- Elwe 3
FW- Mablung 4
FW- Beleg 4

EDORAS
G- Theoden
DF- Aldor C
DF- Folcwine
DF- Frealaf C
MF- Thengel
MF- Folca
MF- Theodred 3
MF- Brytta 5
MF- Eowyn 3
FW- Eomer 7
FW- Eorl 4

EREBOR
G- Bain 3
DF- Nain 2
DF- Thorin 2
DF- Thror 2 + C
DF- Brand 2
MF- Dain C
MF- Thrain C
MF- Girion 3
MF- Beorn 3
MF- Bard 5
FW- Smaug 4

FORMENOS
G- Huan 5
DF- Celegorm 4
DF- Caranthir 4
DF- Curufin 4
DF- Celebrimbor 4
MF- Amrod 1 + C
MF- Amras 1
MF- Maglor 4
MF- Aredhel 4
FW- Maedhros 4
FW- Feanor 4

FORNOST
G- Aragost
DF- Aravir
DF- Argonui
DF- Arador
DF- Amlaith C
MF- Aranuir
MF- Arahad
MF- Aranarth
MF- Arassuil
FW- Arahael
FW- Arathorn C

GONDOLIN
G- Tuor 2
DF- Salgant C
DF- Galdor
DF- Meleth
DF- Turgon
MF- Rog C
MF- Idril 5
MF- Penlod
MF- Eol 3 + C
FW- Ecthelion 4
FW- Maeglin 7

GONDOR
G- Beregond
DF- Anardil
DF- Atanatar I
DF- Minalcar C
DF- Dervorin
MF- Golasgil C
MF- Hirluin 3
MF- Valacar
MF- Calmacil
FW- Faramir
FW- Imrahil 4

HELM’S DEEP
G- Erkenbrand 2
DF- Gram 2
DF- Walda 2 + C
DF- Goldwine 2
MF- Brego
MF- Hama C
MF- Fengel
MF- Frea
MF- Elfwine
MF- Eomund
FW- Helm

HITHLUM
G- Huor 3
DF- Galdor 2
DF- Marach 2
DF- Gundor 2
DF- Hador 2
MF- Angrod
MF- Aegnor C
MF- Fingon 3
MF- Hurin 8
FW- Fingolfin 7
FW- Turin 4

ISENGARD
G- Beechbone 1
DF- Snaga C
DF- Deor
DF- Skinbark
MF- Mauhur C
MF- Treebeard
MF- Lugdush C
MF- Freawine
MF- Quickbeam C
FW- Ugluk 4
FW- Saruman 3

LOTHLORIEN
G- Galadriel 2
DF- Gollum 2 + C
DF- Arwen 2
DF- Gimli 2 + C
DF- Celebrian 2
MF- Nimrodel C
MF- Rumil
MF- Orophin
MF- Amroth
MF- Haldir
FW- Eldarion

MICHEL DELVING
G- Sam 1
DF- Bungo
DF- Drogo
DF- Gerontius
DF- Lotho
MF- Ted Sandyman
MF- Fatty
MF- Gaffer C
FW- Merry C
FW- Pippin 3 + C
FW- Bullroarer 4

MINAS TIRITH
G- Ecthelion II 2
DF- Calimehtar
DF- Ondoher C + C
DF- Earnil II C
DF- Beregond C
MF- Turin II
MF- Denethor II 3
MF- Telumehtar C
MF- Boromir I 5
MF- Mardil
FW- Earnur C

MIRKWOOD
G- Oropher 1
DF- Lagduf
DF- Galion C
DF- Muzgash
DF- Gorbag C
MF- Nazgul #8
MF- Grishnakh 3
MF- Grimbeorn 3 + C
FW- Thranduil
FW- Legolas
FW- Scatha 8

MORDOR
G- Shelob 2
DF- Nazgul #7 2 + C
DF- Shagrat 2 + C + C
DF- Gothmog II 2
DF- Nazgul #6 2 + C
MF- Nazgul #5
MF- Nazgul #4
MF- Nazgul #3
MF- The Mouth 3
FW- Khamul 4 + C
FW- The Witch King 7

MORIA
G- Watcher 1
DF- Kili
DF- Ohtar
DF- Oin C
DF- Great Goblin C
MF- Narvi
MF- Balin C
MF- Bolg 3
MF- Durin
MF- Durin’s Bane 5
FW- Azog

NARGOTHROND
G- Beor 2
DF- Bregolas 2
DF- Bregor 2
DF- Belegund 2
DF- Gelmir 2 + C
MF- Baragund
MF- Barahir 5
MF- Glaurung 5
MF- Finrod 3
MF- Beren 3
FW-Gwindor 4

OSGILIATH
G- Romendacil 4
DF- Meneldil 4
DF- Siriondil 4
DF- Cemendur 4
MF- Telemnar 1
MF- Narmacil 1
MF- Earnil 1
MF- Ostoher 4
MF- Falastur 1 + C
MF- Eldacar 1 + C
FW- Hyarmendacil 4

RIVENDELL
G- Elrond 4
DF- Gildor 4 + C
DF- Celeborn 4
DF- Erestor 4
DF- Gandalf 4
MF- Valandil 1
MF- Elladan 4
MF- Elrohir 1
MF- Aragorn 4
MF- Boromir II 6
FW- Glorfindel 4

ROMENA
G- Amandil 4
DF- Tar Meneldur 2
DF- Tar Elendil 2
DF- Vardamir 2 + C
DF- Tar Aldarion 2
MF- Anarion
MF- Tar Miriel
MF- Tar Surion
MF- Tar Palantir 8
MF- Elendil 3
FW- Isildur 4

TANIQUETIL
G- Mandos 4
DF- Este 4
DF- Vana 4
DF- Nessa 4
DF- Aule 4
DF- Yavanna 4
MF- Nienna 1
MF- Thorondor 1
MF- Varda 6
MF- Manwe 4
FW- Lorien

TUNA
G- Orodreth 1
DF- Elenwe
DF- Guilen C
DF- Ingwe
DF- Duilin C
MF- Egalmoth
MF- Finarfin
MF- Nerdanel 3
FW- Mahal C
FW- Finwe 4
FW- Miriel 7

UMBAR
G- Pelendur 1
DF- Calimehtar
DF- Ulrad C
DF- Brodda C + C
DF- Folcred C
MF- Angamaite
MF- Sangahyando
MF- Fastred
FW- Beruthiel C
FW- Nazgul #9 4
FW- Castamir

VALIMAR
G- Ungolient 4
DF- Ulmo 4
DF- Alatar 4
DF- Pallando 4 + C
DF- Radagast 4 + C
MF- Arien 1 + C
MF- Orome 1
MF- Tilion 4
MF- Earendil 4
FW- Tulkas 4
FW- Eonwe 4

TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
G- Drauglin 1
DF- Hookbill C
DF- Gwathagor C
DF- Cailin
MF- Lhuna 3 + C
MF- Thuringwethil
MF- Eomer 5
MF- the phantom 3
FW- Formendacil 3
FW- Nogrod 4
FW- Sauron 4

[Nogrod]

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)
G - Elrond (Rivendell) 4
DF - Este (Taniquetil) 4
DF - Aule (Taniquetil) 4
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell) 4
MF - Arien (Valimar)1 + C
MF - Melkor (Angband) 3 + C
MF - the phantom (T-I-G) 3
FW - Feanor (Formenos) 4
FW - Gothmog (Angband) 4
FW - Tulkas (Valimar) 4

Total: 35 + 2xC


Cailin
G - Old Man Willow (Breeland) 1
DF - Vana (Taniquetil) 4
DF - Luthien (Doriath) 2
DF - Yavanna (Taniquetil) 4
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G) 5
MF - Treebeard (Isengard)
MF - Aredhel (Formenos) 4
MF - Aragorn (Rivendell) 4
MF - Boromir II (Rivendell) 6
MF - Bilbo (Alqualonde)
FW - The Witch King (Mordor) 7

Total: 37


Gwath
G- Erkenbrand (Helm’s Deep) 2
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos) 4
DF- Ulmo (Valimar) 4
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell) 4
MF- the phantom (TIG) 3
MF- Ar-Gimilzor (Armenelos) 4 + C
MF- Melkor (Angband) 3 + C
MF- Aredhel (Formenos) 4
MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood) 3 + C
MF- Eomer (TIG) 5
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin) 7

Total: 43 + 3xC


Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)
G- Melian (Doriath) 4
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil) 4
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep) 2
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)
MF- Melkor (Angband) 3 + C
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith) 3
MF- Eomer (TIG) 5
FW- Azog (Moria)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin) 4
FW- Finwe (Tuna) 4

Total: 29 + 1xC


Skip
G- Mandos (Taniquetil) 4
DF- Ulmo (Valimar) 4
DF- Aule (Taniquetil) 4
DF- Tar-Aldarion (Romena) 2
MF- Eöl (Gondolin) 3 + C
MF- Durin's Bane (Moria) 5
MF- Melkor (Angband) 3 + C
MF- Earendil (Valimar) 4
FW- Turin (Hithlum) 4
FW- Nogrod (T-I_G) 4
FW- Ancalagon (Angband) 4 + C

Total: 41 + 3xC


Ang
G – Galadriel (Lothlorien) 3
DF – Goldberry (Breeland)
DF – Luthien (Doriath) 2
DF – Celegorm (Formenos) 4
DF – Curufin (Formenos) 4
MF – Daeron (Doriath)
MF – Maglor (Formenos) 4
MF – Finrod (Nargothrond) 3
FW – Maedhros (Formenos) 4
FW – Maeglin (Gondolin) 7
FW – Eomer (Edoras) 7

Total: 38


Lhuna
G - Huan (Formenos) 5
DF - Luthien (Doriath) 2
DF - Ulmo (Valimar) 4
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)
MF - Fingon (Hithlum) 3
MF - Eowyn (Edoras) 3
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond) 3
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) 5
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) 3
MF - Varda (Taniquetil) 6
FW - Fingolfin (Hithlum) 7

Total: 41


Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)
G- Melian (Doriath) 4
DF- Lúthien (Doriath) 2
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil) 4
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil) 4
MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) 3 + C
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)
MF- Elwë (Doriath) 3
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond) 3
FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond) 4
FW- Túrin (Hithlum) 4

Total: 31


Form
G- Melian (Doriath) 4
DF- Lúthien (Doriath) 2
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell) 4
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG) C
DF- Frodo (Alqualonde) C
MF- Amrod (Formenos) 1 + C
MF- Amras (Formenos) 1
MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell) 4
FW- Sauron (TIG) 4
FW- Isildur (Romena) 4
FW- Glorfindel (Rivendell) 4

Total: 28 + 3xC


Beasts and Beauties (Nog)
G- Huan (Formenos) 5
DF- Saeros (Doriath) 2 + C
DF- Caranthir (Formenos) 4
DF- Gelmir (Nargothrond) 2 + C
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath) 4
MF- Idril (Gondolin) 5
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil) 1
MF- Nerdanel (Tuna) 3
FW- Ancalagon (Angband) 4 + C
FW- Smaug (Erebor) 4
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) 4

Total: 38 + 3xC


McCaber
G- Melian (Doriath) 4
DF- Turgon (Gondolin)
DF- Gimli (Lothlorien) 2 + C
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell) 4
DF- Ulmo (Valimar) 4
MF- Melkor (Angband) 3 + C
MF- Boromir I (Minas Tirith) 5
MF- Elrohir (Rivendell) 1
FW- Gothmog (Angband) 4
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)4
FW- Maedhros (Formenos) 4

Total: 35 + 2xC


~*~

So after the first round the situation would be like the following...

1. Gwathagor 43
2. Lhuna 41
3. Skip 41
4. Anguirel 38
Nogrod 38
6. Cailín 37
7. Eomer 35
McCaber 35
9. Nilp 31
10. Elmo 29
11. Formendacil 28

[Nogrod]

Everyone should feel free to make changes to your teams if you wish!

It's up to tp to declare the deadline for it but I'd say do it sooner than later as the round two of the games will probably start soon...

[Gwathagor]

My players are a bunch of unruly hooligans. 3 yellow cards? Seriously?

[Nogrod]

I only now realised there was one more dragon I hadn't enlisted... Glaurung of the Nargothrond that is. I need to get him into my team but then I'd need to take out one of my beauties from the midfield... Looking at the points after the first round it would be Nienna but I will not lose her!

So it should be Nerdanel from Tuna who leaves my team.

But I also need to take a female aboard in the defence then... I'll bring forwards Nessa (of Taniquetil) to take the place of Gelmir (Nargothrond).

I'd like to change myself to Miriel in front but will not do it just yet.

So my team for the second round for now will be:

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)

G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Saeros (Doriath)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)
DF- Nessa (Taniquetil) (Gelmir of Nargothrond kicked out)
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath)
MF- Idril (Gondolin)
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil)
MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) (Nerdanel of Tuna kicked out)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
FW- Smaug (Erebor)
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

3 yellow cards? Seriously?

That's according to the books...

[the phantom]

All right folks. Nogrod and I will be finished editing and deciding about points for the first round very soon, and we'd like to get the second round going as soon as possible.

If you wish to make trades on your fantasy team, do it like this-
++player name (team) (the player you are adding)
--player name (team) (the player you are booting)

And remember you can make as many trades as you'd like during this round. Round 2 begins in exactly 36 hours, so you have till then to make your trades.

[the phantom]

To help you with your selections, here is the schedule for Round 2.

GROUP A
Fornost vs Michel Delving
Rivendell vs Romena

GROUP B
Breeland vs Mirkwood
Edoras vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth

GROUP C
Alqualonde vs Isengard
Doriath vs Formenos

GROUP D
Lothlorien vs Umbar
Nargothrond vs Osgiliath

GROUP E
Gondor vs Tuna
Erebor vs Gondolin

GROUP F
Amon Rhud vs Helm's Deep
Armenelos vs Taniquetil

GROUP G
Minas Tirith vs Moria
Hithlum vs Mordor

GROUP H
Annuminas vs Valimar
Angband vs Brethil

Feel free to make predictions on the tournament thread as well as give your breakdowns on the events of Round 1.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I have total faith in my players and will not drop any of them.

[Elmo]

That was a disaster of Entish proportions. I need time to think about the transfers

[skip spence]

I'd like to announce the following changes to my team:

Tar-Aldarion of Romena, who has been all too absent in defence, will be replaced by Gollum, the wing back of Lothlorien, whose sneaky runs I hope will result in a goal or two.

Eöl the Dark Elf will also have to pack his bags. He will be replaced with Gothmog II of Mordor who I believe has a lot to prove, trying to live up to his more illustrious namesake. Go on, show the world you're not just some anonymous grunt!

Updated team, now also in accordance with the rules:


Shadwell Army
G- Mandos (Taniquetil)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gollum (Lothlorien)
DF - Gothmog II (Mordor)
MF- Durin's Bane (Moria)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Earendil (Valimar)
FW- Turin (Hithlum)
FW- Nogrod (T-I-G)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)

[the phantom]

To answer Skip's question on the other thread- because there are no backups players will never be suspended for a match.

[Nogrod]

I have corrected the tallies - there were some changes as I had forgotten to provide Helm's Deep and Lothlorien their defencive points...

Secondly I have taken away the points taken from the cards as tp thought we can't use that ruling on the first round of games as they weren't clearly introduced beforehand.

But note that from the upcoming second round of games onwards a yellow card will mean substracting one point from that player and a straight red card will mean -3 points.

[McCaber]

It seems to me that my team needs an additional defensive force. Turgon's main strategy is to hide in the face of danger - not exactly what I need.

-- Turgon (Gondolin)
++ Aule (Taniquetil)

Also, my midfield needs some strengthening. Elrohir has great technical skill, but he's not at his best in the open field.

--Elrohir
++ Hurin

The updated roster:

G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gimli (Lothlorien)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Boromir I (Minas Tirith)
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
FW- Gothmog (Angband)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Time to replace one mother-father-child team with another.

--Elwë (Doriath)
++Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

Which means, instead of Melian-Elwë-Lúthien, I have the Cailín-Eomer-Lhuna set on my team now.

Updated roster:

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil)
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)
MF- Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)

[the phantom]

All right. Here are the updated fantasy teams. As soon as the first set of results from Round 2 gets posted you can no longer make trades. The first set of results will likely be posted in about an hour.

Gwath
G- Erkenbrand (Helm’s Deep)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Ar-Gimilzor (Armenelos)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)

Shadwell Army (Skip)
G- Mandos (Taniquetil)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gollum (Lothlorien)
DF - Gothmog II (Mordor)
MF- Durin's Bane (Moria)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Earendil (Valimar)
FW- Turin (Hithlum)
FW- Nogrod (T-I-G)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)

Lhuna
G - Huan (Formenos)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Ulmo (Valimar)
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)
MF - Eowyn (Edoras)
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond)
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Varda (Taniquetil)
FW - Fingolfin (Hithlum)

Ang
G – Galadriel (Lothlorien)
DF – Goldberry (Breeland)
DF – Luthien (Doriath)
DF – Celegorm (Formenos)
DF – Curufin (Formenos)
MF – Daeron (Doriath)
MF – Maglor (Formenos)
MF – Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW – Maedhros (Formenos)
FW – Maeglin (Gondolin)
FW – Eomer (Edoras)

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)
G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Saeros (Doriath)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)
DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath)
MF- Idril (Gondolin)
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil)
MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
FW- Smaug (Erebor)
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

Cailin
G - Old Man Willow (Breeland)
DF - Vana (Taniquetil)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G)
MF - Treebeard (Isengard)
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)
MF - Aragorn (Rivendell)
MF - Boromir II (Rivendell)
MF - Bilbo (Alqualonde)
FW - The Witch King (Mordor)

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)
G - Elrond (Rivendell)
DF - Este (Taniquetil)
DF - Aule (Taniquetil)
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)
MF - Arien (Valimar)
MF - Melkor (Angband)
MF - the phantom (T-I-G)
FW - Feanor (Formenos)
FW - Gothmog (Angband)
FW - Tulkas (Valimar)

McCaber
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gimli (Lothlorien)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Boromir I (Minas Tirith)
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
FW- Gothmog (Angband)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil)
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)
MF- Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)

Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Azog (Moria)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Finwe (Tuna)

Form
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)
DF- Frodo (Alqualonde)
MF- Amrod (Formenos)
MF- Amras (Formenos)
MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell)
FW- Sauron (TIG)
FW- Isildur (Romena)
FW- Glorfindel (Rivendell)

[Nogrod]

I seemed to have made my "trades" in the wrong manner in my post earlier...

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)

G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Saeros (Doriath)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)
DF- Nessa (Taniquetil) (Gelmir of Nargothrond kicked out)
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath)
MF- Idril (Gondolin)
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil)
MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond) (Nerdanel of Tuna kicked out)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
FW- Smaug (Erebor)
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

So my two changes were and are:

-- Gelmir of Nargothrond
++ Nessa of Taniquetil

-- Nerdanel of Tuna
++ Glaurung of Nargothrond

Sorry.

[the phantom]

Ah, sorry Nog. I was thinking I had already updated your team. I have edited the list.

[the phantom]

After Nogrod posts the rest of the results from Round 2 you will once again be allowed to make unlimited trades on your fantasy team. Make sure and have the playoffs in mind as after the final round of group play you will only be allowed six trades before the playoffs (so half of your team had better be set already).

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

After Nogrod posts the rest of the results from Round 2 you will once again be allowed to make unlimited trades on your fantasy team. Make sure and have the playoffs in mind as after the final round of group play you will only be allowed six trades before the playoffs (so half of your team had better be set already).

I'm on it... (Sorry, but I've had both RPG and WW obligations + Lommy came here this afternoon and we have been planning a game for the late summer together) Working on it right now...

[the phantom]

ALQUALONDE
G- Olwe- 3
DF- Earwen- 2
DF- Cirdan- 2
DF- Frodo- 2
DF- Elwing- 1
MF- Eriol- 0
MF- Lindo- 3
MF- Bilbo- 0
MF- Uinen- 3
FW- Osse- 4
FW- Gil-Galad- 4

AMON RHUD
G- Ebor- 4
DF- Sagroth- 4
DF- Forweg- 3
DF- Forhend- 4
MF- Avranc- 1
MF- Ragnir- 1
MF- Asgon- 3
MF- Gethron- 1
MF- Grithnir- 6
MF- Algund- 1
FW- Androg- 0

ANGBAND
G- Carcharoth- 5
DF- Balrog 2- 4
DF- Uldor- 3
DF- Balrog 3- 4
DF- Balrog 4- 4
MF- Balrog 5- 0
MF- Balrog 6- 4
MF- Ulfast- 6
MF- Melkor- 4
FW- Gothmog- 4
FW- Ancalagon- 0

ANNUMINAS
G- Arvedui- 1
DF- Tarcil- 0
DF- Elendur- 0
DF- Earendur- 0
DF- Tarandor- 0
MF- Arveleg- -1
MF- Argeleb- 5
MF- Eldacar- 0
MF- Arantar- 3
MF- Valandur- 3
FW- Araphor- 4

ARMENELOS
G- Elros- 4
DF- Tar Atanamir- 4
DF- Tar Ciryatan- 4
DF- Tar-Telperien- 4
MF- Ar Zimrathan- 1
MF- Tar Calmacil- 0
MF- Ar Adunakhor- 9
MF- Ar Gimilzor- 0
FW- Tar Ancalimon- 3
FW- Tar Minastir- 3
FW- Ar Pharazon- 8

BREELAND
G- Old Man Willow- 2
DF- Bob- 0
DF- Goldberry- 0
DF- Nob- -1
MF- Odo Proudfoot- 0
MF- Sardoc Brandybuck- -1
MF- Harry- 0
MF- Butterbur- 0
MF- The Barrow-Wight- 11
FW- Bill Ferny- 3
FW- Tom Bombadil- 8

BRETHIL
G- Hardang- 1
DF- Hundad- 0
DF- Nienor- 0
DF- Handir- 0
MF- Brandir- 0
MF- Manthor- 0
MF- Dorlas- -1
MF- Halmir- 0
MF- Hunthor- 0
MF- Haleth- 0
FW- Haldir- 0

DORIATH
G- Melian- 2
DF- Elured- 0
DF- Luthien- 0
DF- Elurin- 0
DF- Saeros- -1
MF- Nellas- 0
MF- Daeron- -1
MF- Dior- 0
MF- Elwe- -1
FW- Mablung- 3
FW- Beleg- 4

EDORAS
G- Theoden- 1
DF- Aldor- -1
DF- Folcwine- 0
DF- Frealaf- -1
MF- Thengel- 0
MF- Folca- 0
MF- Theodred- 3
MF- Brytta- -1
MF- Eowyn- 2
FW- Eomer- 3
FW- Eorl- 4

EREBOR
G- Bain- 1
DF- Nain- -1
DF- Thorin- 0
DF- Thror- 0
DF- Brand- 0
MF- Dain- 3
MF- Thrain- 0
MF- Girion- 0
MF- Beorn- 0
MF- Bard- 0
FW- Smaug- 3

FORMENOS
G- Huan- 2
DF- Celegorm- 2
DF- Caranthir- 1
DF- Curufin- 2
DF- Celebrimbor- 2
MF- Amrod- 0
MF- Amras- 0
MF- Maglor- 0
MF- Aredhel- 5
FW- Maedhros- 7
FW- Feanor- 2

FORNOST
G- Aragost- 3
DF- Aravir- 2
DF- Argonui- 2
DF- Arador- 1
DF- Amlaith- 2
MF- Aranuir- 0
MF- Arahad- 3
MF- Aranarth- 0
MF- Arassuil -3
FW- Arahael- 4
FW- Arathorn- 4

GONDOLIN
G- Tuor- 4
DF- Salgant- 2
DF- Galdor- 1
DF- Meleth- 2
DF- Turgon- 2
MF- Rog- 0
MF- Idril- 2
MF- Penlod- 0
MF- Eol- 5
FW- Ecthelion- 0
FW- Maeglin- 7

GONDOR
G- Beregond- 2
DF- Anardil- 0
DF- Atanatar I- 0
DF- Minalcar- 0
DF- Dervorin- 0
MF- Golasgil- 0
MF- Hirluin- 0
MF- Valacar- 2
MF- Calmacil- 0
FW- Faramir- 4
FW- Imrahil- 0

HELM’S DEEP
G- Erkenbrand- 2
DF- Gram- 2
DF- Walda- 2
DF- Goldwine- 2
MF- Brego- -1
MF- Hama- 0
MF- Fengel- -1
MF- Frea- 0
MF- Elfwine- 0
MF- Eomund- 0
FW- Helm- 0

HITHLUM
G- Huor- 1
DF- Galdor- 0
DF- Marach- 0
DF- Gundor- -1
DF- Hador- 0
MF- Angrod- -1
MF- Aegnor- 0
MF- Fingon- 5
MF- Hurin- 3
FW- Fingolfin- -1
FW- Turin- 7

ISENGARD
G- Beechbone- 1
DF- Snaga- 0
DF- Deor- -1
DF- Skinbark- 0
MF- Mauhur- 0
MF- Treebeard- 0
MF- Lugdush- 0
MF- Freawine- 0
MF- Quickbeam- 3
FW- Ugluk- 3
FW- Saruman- 0

LOTHLORIEN
G- Galadriel- 4
DF- Gollum- 1
DF- Arwen- 2
DF- Gimli- 2
DF- Celebrian- 2
MF- Nimrodel- 0
MF- Rumil- -1
MF- Orophin- -1
MF- Amroth- 5
MF- Haldir- 3
FW- Eldarion- 0

MICHEL DELVING
G- Sam- 1
DF- Bungo- 0
DF- Drogo- 0
DF- Gerontius- -1
DF- Lotho- o
MF- Ted Sandyman- -1
MF- Fatty- 2
MF- Gaffer- 0
FW- Merry- 4
FW- Pippin- 0
FW- Bullroarer- 0

MINAS TIRITH
G- Ecthelion II- 1
DF- Calimehtar- 0
DF- Ondoher- 0
DF- Earnil II- -1
DF- Beregond- 0
MF- Turin II- 0
MF- Denethor II- -1
MF- Telumehtar- 0
MF- Boromir I- 3
MF- Mardil- 8
FW- Earnur- 4

MIRKWOOD
G- Oropher- 1
DF- Lagduf- -1
DF- Galion- -1
DF- Muzgash- 0
DF- Gorbag- 0
MF- Nazgul #8- 0
MF- Grishnakh- 5
MF- Grimbeorn- 2
FW- Thranduil- 3
FW- Legolas- 7
FW- Scatha- 4

MORDOR
G- Shelob- 2
DF- Nazgul #7- 0
DF- Shagrat- 0
DF- Gothmog II- 0
DF- Nazgul #6- 0
MF- Nazgul #5- -1
MF- Nazgul #4- 0
MF- Nazgul #3- -1
MF- The Mouth- 3
FW- Khamul- 4
FW- The Witch King- 4

MORIA
G- Watcher- 0
DF- Kili- 0
DF- Ohtar- 0
DF- Oin- 0
DF- Great Goblin- 0
MF- Narvi- 0
MF- Balin- 3
MF- Bolg- -2
MF- Durin- 3
MF- Durin’s Bane- 4
FW- Azog- 4

NARGOTHROND
G- Beor- 2
DF- Bregolas- 2
DF- Bregor- 1
DF- Belegund- 2
DF- Gelmir- 2
MF- Baragund- 0
MF- Barahir- 0
MF- Glaurung- 4
MF- Finrod- 3
MF- Beren- 5
FW-Gwindor- 3

OSGILIATH
G- Romendacil- 0
DF- Meneldil- 0
DF- Siriondil- 0
DF- Cemendur- 0
MF- Telemnar- 0
MF- Narmacil- 0
MF- Earnil- 0
MF- Ostoher- 0
MF- Falastur- 3
MF- Eldacar- 5
FW- Hyarmendacil- 0

RIVENDELL
G- Elrond- 5
DF- Gildor- 4
DF- Celeborn- 4
DF- Erestor- 4
DF- Gandalf- 4
MF- Valandil- 0
MF- Elladen- 1
MF- Elrohir- 1
MF- Aragorn- 4
MF- Boromir II- 1
FW- Glorfindel- 4

ROMENA
G- Amandil- 2
DF- Tar Meneldur- 2
DF- Tar Elendil- 2
DF- Vardamir- 2
DF- Tar Aldarion- 1
MF- Anarion- 0
MF- Tar Miriel- 0
MF- Tar Surion- -1
MF- Tar Palantir- 0
MF- Elendil- 0
FW- Isildur- 0

TANIQUETIL
G- Mandos- 2
DF- Este- 0
DF- Vana- 0
DF- Nessa- 0
DF- Aule- -1
DF- Yavanna- -3
MF- Nienna- 0
MF- Thorondor- -1
MF- Varda- -1
MF- Manwe- 0
FW- Lorien- 0

TUNA
G- Orodreth- 3
DF- Elenwe- 2
DF- Guilen- 2
DF- Ingwe- 2
DF- Duilin- 2
MF- Egalmoth- -1
MF- Finarfin- 3
MF- Nerdanel- 3
FW- Mahal- 4
FW- Finwe- 7
FW- Miriel- 4

UMBAR
G- Pelendur- 3
DF- Calimehtar- 2
DF- Ulrad- 1
DF- Brodda- 2
DF- Folcred- 2
MF- Angamaite- 0
MF- Sangahyando- -1
MF- Fastred- -1
FW- Beruthiel- 0
FW- Nazgul #9- 3
FW- Castamir- 4

VALIMAR
G- Ungolient- 1
DF- Ulmo- 0
DF- Alatar- 0
DF- Pallando- 0
DF- Radagast- 0
MF- Arien- 0
MF- Orome- 2
MF- Tilion- 5
MF- Earendil- 5
FW- Tulkas- 0
FW- Eonwe- 3

TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
G- Drauglin- 2
DF- Hookbill- 0
DF- Gwathagor- 0
DF- Cailin- -1
MF- Lhuna- 0
MF- Thuringwethil- -1
MF- Eomer- 3
MF- the phantom- 8
FW- Formendacil- 3
FW- Nogrod- 0
FW- Sauron- 7

[the phantom]

Nogrod or I will officially add your points and post standings and such here in the next 24 hours or so. We'll also give a deadline for trades.

But for right now, trade all you'd like!

Remember, this is your last chance to make unlimited adjustments to your fantasy team.

Group standings and final games...

--GROUP A--
Rivendell 6 pts 3-0
Romena 3 pts 2-2
Fornost 3 pts 2-3
Michel Delving 0 pts 2-4

Fornost vs Romena
Michel Delving vs Rivendell

--GROUP B--
Tol-In-Gaurhoth 6 pts 6-4
Edoras 3 pts 5-5
Mirkwood 1 pts 5-6
Breeland 1 pts 5-6

Breeland vs TIG
Edoras vs Mirkwood

--GROUP C--
Formenos 6 pts 4-1
Doriath 3 pts 3-3
Alqualonde 3 pts 2-3
Isengard 0 pts 2-4

Formenos vs Isengard
Alqualonde vs Doriath

--GROUP D--
Nargothrond 6 pts 5-2
Osgiliath 3 pts 2-2
Lothlorien 1 pts 1-2
Umbar 1 pts 2-4

Lothlorien vs Nargothrond
Osgiliath vs Umbar

--GROUP E--
Gondolin 6 pts 5-3
Tuna 3 pts 5-4
Erebor 3 pts 3-3
Gondor 0 pts 2-5

Erebor vs Tuna
Gondolin vs Gondor

--GROUP F--
Armenelos 6 pts 5-0
Amon Rhud 3 pts 1-2
Taniquetil 3 pts 1-3
Helm's Deep 0 pts 0-2

Armenelos vs Helm's Deep
Amon Rhud vs Taniquetil

--GROUP G--
Hithlum 4 pts 5-3
Mordor 4 pts 4-3
Minas Tirith 1 pts 3-4
Moria 1 pts 3-5

Hithlum vs Minas Tirith
Mordor vs Moria

--GROUP H--
Angband 4 pts 4-2
Valimar 4 pts 4-2
Annuminas 2 pts 4-4
Brethil 0 pts 0-4

Annuminas vs Brethil
Angband vs Valimar

[the phantom]

Gwath- 37
G- Erkenbrand (Helm’s Deep)- 2
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)- 0
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- 4
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 8
MF- Ar-Gimilzor (Armenelos)- 0
MF- Melkor (Angband)- 4
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 5
MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)- 2
MF- Eomer (TIG)- 3
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)- 7

Shadwell Army (Skip)- 22
G- Mandos (Taniquetil)- 2
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)- 0
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)- -1
DF- Gollum (Lothlorien)- 1
DF - Gothmog II (Mordor)- 0
MF- Durin's Bane (Moria)- 4
MF- Melkor (Angband)- 4
MF- Earendil (Valimar)- 5
FW- Turin (Hithlum)- 7
FW- Nogrod (T-I-G)- 0
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 0

Lhuna- 23
G - Huan (Formenos)- 2
DF - Luthien (Doriath)- 0
DF - Ulmo (Valimar)- 0
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)- 2
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)- 5
MF - Eowyn (Edoras)- 2
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond)- 3
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 3
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 8
MF - Varda (Taniquetil)- -1
FW - Fingolfin (Hithlum)- -1

Ang- 27
G – Galadriel (Lothlorien)- 4
DF – Goldberry (Breeland)- 0
DF – Luthien (Doriath)- 0
DF – Celegorm (Formenos)- 2
DF – Curufin (Formenos)- 2
MF – Daeron (Doriath)- -1
MF – Maglor (Formenos)- 0
MF – Finrod (Nargothrond)- 3
FW – Maedhros (Formenos)- 7
FW – Maeglin (Gondolin)- 7
FW – Eomer (Edoras)- 3

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)- 11
G- Huan (Formenos)- 2
DF- Saeros (Doriath)- -1
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 1
DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)- 0
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath)- 0
MF- Idril (Gondolin)- 2
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil)- 0
MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)- 4
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 0
FW- Smaug (Erebor)- 3
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 0

Cailin- 16
G - Old Man Willow (Breeland)- 2
DF - Vana (Taniquetil)- 0
DF - Luthien (Doriath)- 0
DF - Yavanna (Taniquetil)- -3
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G)- 3
MF - Treebeard (Isengard)- 0
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)- 5
MF - Aragorn (Rivendell)- 4
MF - Boromir II (Rivendell)- 1
MF - Bilbo (Alqualonde)- 0
FW - The Witch King (Mordor)- 4

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)- 25
G - Elrond (Rivendell)- 5
DF - Este (Taniquetil)- 0
DF - Aule (Taniquetil)- -1
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)- -1
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)- 4
MF - Arien (Valimar)- 0
MF - Melkor (Angband)- 4
MF - the phantom (T-I-G)- 8
FW - Feanor (Formenos)- 2
FW - Gothmog (Angband)- 4
FW - Tulkas (Valimar)- 0

McCaber- 28
G- Melian (Doriath)- 2
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)- -1
DF- Gimli (Lothlorien)- 2
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- 4
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)- 0
MF- Melkor (Angband)- 4
MF- Boromir I (Minas Tirith)- 3
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 3
FW- Gothmog (Angband)- 4
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 0
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 7

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)- 13
G- Melian (Doriath)- 2
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)- 0
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- -1
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil)- -1
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)- -3
MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 0
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)- 0
MF- Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 3
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)- 3
FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)- 3
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)- 7

Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)- 23
G- Melian (Doriath)- 2
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)- 3
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)- -1
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)- 2
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)- 0
MF- Melkor (Angband)- 4
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)- -1
MF- Eomer (TIG)- 3
FW- Azog (Moria)- 4
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 0
FW- Finwe (Tuna)- 7

Form- 23
G- Melian (Doriath)- 2
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)- 0
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- 4
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)- 0
DF- Frodo (Alqualonde)- 2
MF- Amrod (Formenos)- 0
MF- Amras (Formenos)- 0
MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell)- 4
FW- Sauron (TIG)- 7
FW- Isildur (Romena)- 0
FW- Glorfindel (Rivendell)- 4

[the phantom]

1. Gwathagor- 80
2. Anguirel- 65
3. Lhuna- 64
4. Skip- 63
-- McCaber- 63
6. Eomer- 60
7. Cailín- 53
8. Elmo- 52
9. Formendacil- 51
10. Nogrod- 49
11. Nilp- 44

There's still a regular round to go, plus prediction points, playoff points, etc... Everyone is still in this contest.

I will give you all 48 hours from this post to get your fantasy teams set for Round 3.

Remember, after Round 3 you are only allowed six trades, so make sure and have your roster filled with likely playoff participants. Also, no more than four from one single team. I think I forgot to mention that at the beginning.

[Nogrod]

How low can one get?

I trusted my team's players as they're my favourites and just look at the drop in my standings...

Uh-Oh.

The trust and love are now under trial I must say...

But love prevails! Or then not...

I need to think. Four dragons in a team added with a host of the most glorious females around just feels soo good. But if they don't perform?

I'll probably change myself to Miriel at least... but that's to be decided...


The Arda Kicker Magazine's stars for round two are coming a bit later!

[the phantom]

Yes, bad luck that round, Nog. You just have the wrong beauties playing for you. Don't trust those Taniquetil girls- they think they're too good for guys like us. You'll have better luck with the ones here in Middle Earth.

Galadriel and Melian have been good for points. And Aredhel, Idril, Nerdanel, and Miriel have been performing quite well.

A shame no one had The Barrow-Wight on their team. That last round was plain ridiculous.

[Nogrod]

You may be right with those western ladies... I'll think of that even if will not let go of Nienna, she will make her mark one day... I hope...



But a serious question then.

Have you tp ever told us the way the play-offs will go?

I asked that already a while ago but haven't noticed an answer... So will it go like the best of group A against the second of group H etc... or will there be a divide in the middle, like the best of group A against the second group D and the best of group E against the best of group H etc...?

That I think is a most valuable information right now as then we could predict which teams will face each other in the first round of the play-offs. And that might influence our choices...

[the phantom]

Ah, very sorry Nogrod. I meant to answer that question once before but for some reason I wasn't able to (had to leave for an activity or something). And since then I've forgotten.

The playoffs will match winners of groups with 2nd place finishers of groups in this fashion-

A-H
B-G
C-F
D-E
E-D
F-C
G-B
H-A

[Nogrod]

No problem. That's clear.

[McCaber]

Well, I am wholly satisfied with my team as is for the first round, but I'm getting worried about round II. While Boromir I is putting up good numbers for me, his team looks to be going nowhere. So I'm dropping him and adding in the phantom. A proven leader and scorer, he and Melkor should give me a solid midfield.

--Boromir I (Minas Tirith)
++the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

Also, a pair of defenders are neither going anywhere or giving me any points. Aule and Gimli get the boot.

--Aule (Taniquetil)
++Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)

--Gimli (Lothlorien)
++ Belegund (Nargothrond)

New roster:

G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Tar Atanamri (Armenelos)
DF- Belegund (Nargothrond)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
FW- Gothmog (Angband)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)

[Gwathagor]

--Erkenbrand

++Elrond (Rivendell)


--Ulmo

++Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)


--Ar-Gimilzor

++Ar-Adunakhor (Armenelos)


--Grimbeorn

++Eol (Gondolin)


Updated team:

G- Elrond (Rivendell)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Ar-Adunakhor (Armenelos)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- Eol (Gondolin)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)

Prepare for further domination.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The playoffs will match winners of groups with 2nd place finishers of groups in this fashion-

A-H
B-G
C-F
D-E
E-D
F-C
G-B
H-A (le phantome)

Ooh, so the bracket I used for mapping my predicted winner was correct! Heehee.

Alas that my players aren't doing so well . . .

How low can one get? (Nogrod)

Don't feel too bad, at least there's someone below you in the overall standings.

Ah, well, time to be greedy and callous, methinks.

Two of the best defensive teams are Rivendell and Armenelos, therefore:

--Melian
++Elrond

--Lúthien
++Tar-Atanamir

--Cailín
++Celeborn

--Aulë
++Tar-Telperiën

**phantom, can we change formations, too???

If my actions are legal, then I'll change one of my defenders into a midfielder.

--Yavanna
++Beren

--Lhunardawen
++the phantom

--Tar-Míriel
++Glaurung

Then change one of my forwards for a midfielder (again, if it is legal).

--Gwindor
++Ar Adûnakhôr

So, the updated roster (if allowed):

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)
GK - Elrond (Rivendell)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)
DF - Tar-Telperiën (Armenelos)
DF - Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)
MF - Beren (Nargothrond)
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond)
MF - Glaurung (Nargothrond)
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Ar-Adûnakhôr (Armenelos)
FW - Túrin (Hithlum)

[skip spence]

++ Celeborn (Rivendell)
- - Gothmog II (Mordor)

Celeborn has impressed me so far. Without his wife Galadriel to rely on he has stepped up his game and started to take some real responsability.

++ Tom Bombadill (Breeland)
- - Noggrod (T-I-G)

Although it is doubtful Breeland will make it into the knock-out stage of the tournament I can't resist pairing up the yellow boots of Bombadill with the back boots of Turin up front. From Nogrod I expected more sisu to be honest.

++ The Phantom (T-I-G)
- - Ancalagon (Angband)

Previously unknown in ME footballing circles, The Phantom is proving himself at the top level with some inventive play.

++ The Witch King (Mordor)
- - Durin's Bane (Moria)

Although Durin's Bane has performed well so far I don't think he will feature in the second round. To replace him is The Witch King who I believe is an asset for any team. His black breath makes him almost impossible to man-mark and his great compoure in the penalty area means he can set up teammates as well as finishing the moves off himself.

Although my defence let me and themselves down in the last round I will keep faith in them. I chalk down Taniquetil's debacle as underestimation of the opposition. The Pelóri will not crumble a second time!

Updated rooster:

Shadwell Army
G- Mandos (Taniquetil)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gollum (Lothlorien)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Eärendil (Valimar)
MF- The Phantom (T-I-G)
FW - The Witch King (Mordor)
FW- Turin (Hithlum)
FW- Tom Bombadill (Breeland)

[the phantom]

Yes Nilp, you may change formations (so long as the new one is legal, of course).

[Nogrod]

I know now what has haunted my team. It has not been true to itself.

Therefore I'm throwing out all those players who can not be characterised as being either a beauty (a shorthand for a female) or a beast.

I wawered a bit with Caranthir as Lommy noted that he's both and thence should not be shown the door.

So my changes are as follows:

To the defence I make a host of changes.

-- Meneldil (Osgiliath)
++ Yavanna (Taniquetil)

-- Saeros (Doriath)
++ Cailín (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)

-- Caranthir (Formenos)
++ Tar Telperien (Armenelos)

From the midfield I'm forced to let Nienna go . I thought of resigning Nerdanel but she would bare a grunt against me and would not play well just to annoy me...

-- Nienna (Taniquetil)
++ Aredhel (Formenos)

And it is also time to get rid of myself as well (I'm seeing already myself making a hat-trick in the last group-game...). I'd have loved to take in The Witch King but quite a many of you have already signed him and it's boring if everyone has the same teams. So the idea of four dragons in front of my team should be quite impressive!

-- Nogrod (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)
++ Scatha (Mirkwood)


All that results in the following line-up:

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)

G- Huan (Formenos)

DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
DF- Cailín (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)
DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)

MF- Idril (Gondolin)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)

FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
FW- Smaug (Erebor)
FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)


These one's are not the current point-leaders but they will show you some nice football. Of that I'm confident!

[Formendacil]

Okay, let's do some remixing on this team of mine...
Both Elrond and Elros have been astounding in goal, whereas great-great-grandmother Melian has been only passable. Armenelos ahs the more impressive-looking record thus far (taking down Tanquetil of all teams), so:

--Melian, ++Elro

Thus far, Alqualondë has not been a particularly impressive team, and I don't give them good enough odds to survive the next match, so:

--Frodo, ++Balrog #2: even if Angband isn't first seed for its group, they're still contending.

We'll kick one of the Fëanorian twins off midfield and replace him with Ar-Adunakhor.

Isildur is out also, and we'll go with a forward off of Nargothrond:

--Isildur, ++Gwindor

Finally, given how well I seem to be doing, we'll switch up TiG forwards:

--Sauron, ++Formendacil

--Amras, ++Ar-Adunakhor

G- Elros
DF- Lúthien
DF- Gandalf
DF- Hookbill the Goomba
DF- Balrog #2
MF- Amrod
MF- Ar-Adunakhor
MF- Aragorn II
FW- Formendacil
FW- Gwindor
FW- Glorfindel