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Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-05-2003, 03:04 PM

The Golden Hall of Hador?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-05-2003, 07:35 PM

How about Annuminas the Golden-Haired?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-05-2003, 11:31 PM

Drat, Luthien, I was just about to say it.

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 08-06-2003, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Drat, Luthien, I was just about to say it.

So sorry! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Who knows, it might not be right, though....

the phantom · 08-10-2003, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Annuminas the Golden-Haired

Very close, Sophia.

Telchar · 08-11-2003, 02:00 AM

eehhhh.... edo....

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 08-11-2003, 02:50 AM

*Bestowing a very odd look upon Telchar*

I wonder if you might have been hinting at "Edoras", which isn't a building, it's a city... where there is an infamous Golden building.

I've never heard of it referred to as "Meduseld the Golden" however, I'll hazard a guess on it [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img], guesses are free.

Meduseld the Golden-Haired?

Sophia

the phantom · 08-12-2003, 02:15 PM

I figured someone would've got it by now. Then again, it always seems easy to the writer.

Here's a hint- the building has something to do with Sauron.

the phantom · 08-15-2003, 12:46 AM

Okay, I'll restate what we know.

The word "golden" is correct. The building has something to do with Sauron.

Here's another hint- think Numenor.

the phantom · 08-16-2003, 09:29 PM

The clue is-

Quote:

A building dedicated to Hador.

"Golden" is part of the answer, and the building has something to do with Sauron and Numenor.

Anyone?

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-18-2003, 07:08 PM

Aha!

Is it Armenelos the Golden-Haired?

Armenelos was a city, but Sauron caused a temple to be built there.

the phantom · 08-18-2003, 11:34 PM

The Temple of Armenelos the Golden-Haired it is.

(actually, because it was necessary to include the location with the building, I guess it was kind of hard)

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-19-2003, 02:57 PM

Thanks Phantom. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

This should be a fairly easy one.

Dwarven King's fortifications.

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-25-2003, 05:29 PM

Er, perhaps not so easy, then. Any takers?

Kaiserin · 08-26-2003, 01:46 AM

Barad-Durin?

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-26-2003, 07:07 AM

Nope. That's not the one, I'm afraid.

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-28-2003, 04:32 PM

Surely it can't be that difficult. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

The (nick) name of a Dwarven King merged with a well-known fortification ...

Evisse the Blue · 08-29-2003, 02:13 PM

Balin-Dur, then? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Turambar · 08-29-2003, 02:18 PM

Thorin III Stonehelm's Deep ?

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-31-2003, 05:22 AM

Stonehelm's Deep is indeed the answer. Well done, Turambar. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-12-2005, 10:22 PM

This thread was my favorite, and now that I'm back in town for a while here's hoping some old friends will come back to play it with me.

Instructions (and plenty of examples) are on the earlier pages of the game.

Who's up for:
Beorn's river crossing at Ondolinde

Sophia

Fingolfin II · 01-13-2005, 12:43 AM

Nice game!

Is it Carrock of the Music of Water?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-13-2005, 04:02 PM

The floor is yours.

Fingolfin II · 01-13-2005, 06:37 PM

Cheers. I didn't really expect to get it first time- 'A Shot in the Dark' so to speak

. Hmm, let's see....

Turin's mother from the Golden Wood.

Firefoot · 01-13-2005, 07:30 PM

This looks like fun, so I'll give it a shot.

White Lady of Dor-Lomin?

Fingolfin II · 01-13-2005, 08:13 PM

Alas, no

.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-16-2005, 03:25 PM

I need a clue Fin II.

This puzzle is aching my brain off. For anyone else who wants to give it a shot, I'm going to post all the relevant words I could think of:

Turin's mother
Morwen
Eledhwen
Elfsheen

The Golden Wood
Lorien
Lothlorian
Laurenindorenan
Lindorinand
Land of the Blossom
Land of the Valley of Singing Gold
Dwimordene
Valley of Gold
Vale of the Land of the Singers

There were also Stewards Turin I & II of Gondor, but I haven't yet found their mothers' names.

Sophia

Fingolfin II · 01-16-2005, 07:01 PM

Really, Sophia, you give me too much credit. It's a pretty easy question, though unfortunately not as witty as the ones posed in this thread. It kind of makes sense, but in a subtle way; almost non-existent you could say. Anyway, I'll stop babbling and give you two clues-

1.) It doesn't make sense in the conventional way that you'd expect (i.e. Thorin III Stonehelm's Deep or Carrock of the Music of Water), but rather describes a general feeling. Hard to explain, hopefully this will help more-

2.) You mentioned both parts it in your list of names.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-20-2005, 04:20 AM

more clue, more clue! I don't understand what you mean by "general feeling", and I can come up with some interesting rhymes, but no real before-and-after phrase...

Help me, FinII, you're my only hope!

Sophe

Fingolfin II · 01-20-2005, 05:43 PM

By general feeling, I kind of mean- hmm what do I mean? Well, what I hope I mean is that you get this 'feeling' or you sense this when you go to this place. Believe me, there are no rhymes in this answer- when I came up with it, it seemed pretty random but yeah, it kind of fits. Anyway, the second part of the answer is "Lothlorien" (or Lorien).

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-23-2005, 12:30 AM

Unwilling to let this thread be re-killed and re-buried, I thought I'd put forward:

Elfsheen of Lorien?

Sense, nonsense, or has Sophia missed the point?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-25-2005, 02:41 AM

Evil Sorcerer's home, new residence of Symbolically Immortal Father

Sophia

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-25-2005, 03:36 AM

Dol Guldurin's Tower?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-25-2005, 04:27 PM

Close, Saucy. Very close. I approve of the reincarnation of your avatar.

I'm actually looking for the name and title of the "Father", rather than his home. I meant the Evil Sorcerer's fortress as his "new residence".

Sophe

Nuranar · 01-25-2005, 05:26 PM

Barad-dûrin the Deathless

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-25-2005, 08:52 PM

Nuranar, I will give it to you, even though I was looking for Dol-Guldurin the Deathless, because I overlooked the fact that Dol-Guldur and Barad-dur were both residences of the same evil sorcerer.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-09-2005, 11:01 PM

Nuranar?

Nuranar · 02-09-2005, 11:33 PM

I promise to brainstorm one tomorrow! Probably during computer science lab... anything to keep me awake.

Nuranar · 02-14-2005, 02:17 PM

OK, so it was Monday, not Thursday... and it was geology, not cs lab... but at long last I've got something. I hope this is passable - it's the first time for me to do it. And many apologies for taking so long!

The inescapable horror of the Valar

arcticstorm · 04-30-2005, 07:02 PM

Mount Doom of Mandos

08-05-2003, 03:04 PM	#41
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	The Golden Hall of Hador? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

08-05-2003, 07:35 PM	#42
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	How about Annuminas the Golden-Haired? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-11-2003, 02:00 AM	#46
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	eehhhh.... edo.... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-11-2003, 02:50 AM	#47
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Bestowing a very odd look upon Telchar I wonder if you might have been hinting at "Edoras", which isn't a building, it's a city... where there is an infamous Golden building. I've never heard of it referred to as "Meduseld the Golden" however, I'll hazard a guess on it [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img], guesses are free. Meduseld the Golden-Haired? Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

08-12-2003, 02:15 PM	#48
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I figured someone would've got it by now. Then again, it always seems easy to the writer. Here's a hint- the building has something to do with Sauron. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-05-2003, 11:31 PM	#43
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Drat, Luthien, I was just about to say it.

08-15-2003, 12:46 AM	#49
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Okay, I'll restate what we know. The word "golden" is correct. The building has something to do with Sauron. Here's another hint- think Numenor. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-18-2003, 07:08 PM	#51
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Aha! Is it Armenelos the Golden-Haired? Armenelos was a city, but Sauron caused a temple to be built there. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-18-2003, 11:34 PM	#52
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	The Temple of Armenelos the Golden-Haired it is. (actually, because it was necessary to include the location with the building, I guess it was kind of hard) __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-19-2003, 02:57 PM	#53
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Thanks Phantom. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] This should be a fairly easy one. Dwarven King's fortifications. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-25-2003, 05:29 PM	#54
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Er, perhaps not so easy, then. Any takers? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-26-2003, 01:46 AM	#55
Kaiserin Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cair Paravel Posts: 150	Barad-Durin? __________________ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

08-26-2003, 07:07 AM	#56
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. That's not the one, I'm afraid. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-28-2003, 04:32 PM	#57
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Surely it can't be that difficult. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] The (nick) name of a Dwarven King merged with a well-known fortification ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-29-2003, 02:13 PM	#58
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Balin-Dur, then? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-29-2003, 02:18 PM	#59
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Thorin III Stonehelm's Deep ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

08-31-2003, 05:22 AM	#60
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Stonehelm's Deep is indeed the answer. Well done, Turambar. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-12-2005, 10:22 PM	#61
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Revival anyone? This thread was my favorite, and now that I'm back in town for a while here's hoping some old friends will come back to play it with me. Instructions (and plenty of examples) are on the earlier pages of the game. Who's up for: Beorn's river crossing at Ondolinde Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-13-2005, 12:43 AM	#62
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Nice game! Is it Carrock of the Music of Water? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-13-2005, 04:02 PM	#63
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Why so it is... The floor is yours. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-13-2005, 06:37 PM	#64
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Cheers. I didn't really expect to get it first time- 'A Shot in the Dark' so to speak . Hmm, let's see.... Turin's mother from the Golden Wood. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-13-2005, 07:30 PM	#65
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	This looks like fun, so I'll give it a shot. White Lady of Dor-Lomin?

01-13-2005, 08:13 PM	#66
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Alas, no . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-16-2005, 03:25 PM	#67
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	I need a clue Fin II. This puzzle is aching my brain off. For anyone else who wants to give it a shot, I'm going to post all the relevant words I could think of: Turin's mother Morwen Eledhwen Elfsheen The Golden Wood Lorien Lothlorian Laurenindorenan Lindorinand Land of the Blossom Land of the Valley of Singing Gold Dwimordene Valley of Gold Vale of the Land of the Singers There were also Stewards Turin I & II of Gondor, but I haven't yet found their mothers' names. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-16-2005, 07:01 PM	#68
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Really, Sophia, you give me too much credit. It's a pretty easy question, though unfortunately not as witty as the ones posed in this thread. It kind of makes sense, but in a subtle way; almost non-existent you could say. Anyway, I'll stop babbling and give you two clues- 1.) It doesn't make sense in the conventional way that you'd expect (i.e. Thorin III Stonehelm's Deep or Carrock of the Music of Water), but rather describes a general feeling. Hard to explain, hopefully this will help more- 2.) You mentioned both parts it in your list of names. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-20-2005, 04:20 AM	#69
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	*looks pitiful* more clue, more clue! I don't understand what you mean by "general feeling", and I can come up with some interesting rhymes, but no real before-and-after phrase... Help me, FinII, you're my only hope! Sophe __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-20-2005, 05:43 PM	#70
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	By general feeling, I kind of mean- hmm what do I mean? Well, what I hope I mean is that you get this 'feeling' or you sense this when you go to this place. Believe me, there are no rhymes in this answer- when I came up with it, it seemed pretty random but yeah, it kind of fits. Anyway, the second part of the answer is "Lothlorien" (or Lorien). __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-23-2005, 12:30 AM	#71
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Like a Nazgul on Weathertop she takes a stab in the dark... Unwilling to let this thread be re-killed and re-buried, I thought I'd put forward: Elfsheen of Lorien? Sense, nonsense, or has Sophia missed the point? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-25-2005, 02:41 AM	#72
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Since FinII pmed me to say the above was right, I'll put forward a new clue. Evil Sorcerer's home, new residence of Symbolically Immortal Father Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-25-2005, 03:36 AM	#73
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Dol Guldurin's Tower? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-25-2005, 04:27 PM	#74
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Close, Saucy. Very close. I approve of the reincarnation of your avatar. I'm actually looking for the name and title of the "Father", rather than his home. I meant the Evil Sorcerer's fortress as his "new residence". Sophe __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-25-2005, 05:26 PM	#75
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	Barad-dûrin the Deathless __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey

01-25-2005, 08:52 PM	#76
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Nuranar, I will give it to you, even though I was looking for Dol-Guldurin the Deathless, because I overlooked the fact that Dol-Guldur and Barad-dur were both residences of the same evil sorcerer. __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

02-09-2005, 11:01 PM	#77
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	*bump* Nuranar? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

02-09-2005, 11:33 PM	#78
Nuranar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: STILL a drought Posts: 529	Yoikes! I promise to brainstorm one tomorrow! Probably during computer science lab... anything to keep me awake. __________________ I admit it is better fun to punt than be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry. Lord Peter Wimsey