6 Degrees of Separation - Page 2 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mat_Heathertoes · 04-15-2002, 03:24 AM

Ungoliant ---> Bergil

Telchar · 04-15-2002, 03:49 AM

Hmmm
Maybe as simple as:
Ungoliant - Shelob - Sam/frodo - Pippin - Bergil

Mat_Heathertoes · 04-15-2002, 06:30 AM

Tch-Oh! Telchar found another way. I'd had
Ungoliant - Shelob - Gollum - Faramir - Bergil .. but there it is ... Telchar takes up the baton once more.

Telchar · 04-15-2002, 07:21 AM

Melian ---> Grima

Voronwe · 04-15-2002, 07:48 AM

Melian - > Galadriel - > Gimli - > Grima

Telchar · 04-15-2002, 08:23 AM

Perfect - I hadn't even seen that one!

BtW could somebody clarify the rules to me? For ex. must there be a explicit statement that two persons interacted or are you allowed to assume that they did???

For ex. Melian - directly to Olorin - Grima ??? or Melian - Irmo - Olorin - Grima ??? would they hold in court???

and to weird things: What about Melkor - Thorondor - Gwaihir - Sam ?

Voronwe · 04-16-2002, 03:28 PM

As a matter of fact I'm not too clear on the rules myself. I tend to make a 'link' when there has been a meeting or directly implied meeting (i.e. 2 characters in the same place at the same time) between 2 characters. I probably wouldn't connect Melian to Olorin unless I really had to, even though it's very likely that they met.

I'd hesitate to make the link between Thorondor and Gwaihir, since Gwaihir was only descended from Thorondor but didn't actually meet him. But that's just my opinnion, and I'm not sure what BW's original intentions were.

Anyway, the next one is:

Tar-Anárion -> Anárion

Telchar · 04-17-2002, 01:24 AM

Good one!

Tar-Anarion - Tar Ancalime - Tar Aldarion - Gil-galad - Elendil - Anarion

I would probably leave out Tar Ancalime and Elendil ...

Voronwe · 04-17-2002, 09:11 AM

That's exactly how I did it. Ask away.

Telchar · 04-18-2002, 03:35 AM

Ibun ----> Mathan

Voronwe · 04-23-2002, 09:32 AM

Do you mean Mahtan, the Noldorin smith? If so then:

Ibun -> Turin -> Orodreth -> Finarfin -> Fëanor -> Mahtan

Telchar · 04-23-2002, 09:58 AM

Indeed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Voronwe · 04-25-2002, 03:56 PM

Ok, how about:

Galion -> Gorlim

Joy · 04-25-2002, 09:53 PM

Galion -> King Thranduil -> Galadriel -> Finrod Felagund -> Barahir -> Gorlim the Unhappy

This is the best I can do here.

Turambar · 04-26-2002, 05:50 AM

Or Galion - Bilbo - Aragorn - Sauron - Gorlim ?

Voronwe · 04-26-2002, 11:31 AM

Working in the assumption that Galadriel was there when Celeborn and Thranduil met, Joy's answer is fine. Personally I would have had Bilbo instead of Thranduil, with everything else the same.

Ask away, Joy.

Joy · 04-26-2002, 10:07 PM

Legolas --> Vardamir

Dior · 04-26-2002, 10:37 PM

Legolas - Beren - Dior - Elwing - Elros - Vardamir? Probably wrong, I'm assuming Legolas met Beren in Doriath.

Elenhin · 04-27-2002, 05:50 AM

Legolas -> Elrond -> Elros -> Vardamir

Joy · 04-27-2002, 02:19 PM

Elenhin, good job. Your turn.

Elenhin · 04-28-2002, 05:49 AM

Tom Bombadil -> Beleg (of Doriath)

Lindolirian · 04-28-2002, 03:16 PM

Tom Bombadil --> Frodo --> Legolas --> Thranduil --> Beleg

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 04-28-2002, 09:43 PM

He's not replying, so let me.

Sam->Lord of Nazûl [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Joy · 04-28-2002, 10:06 PM

Sam -> Merry -> Lord of the Nazgul
or
Sam -> Merry -> Eowyn -> Lord of the Nazgul

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 04-28-2002, 10:37 PM

correct! your turn

Elenhin · 04-29-2002, 09:20 AM

Gimli, don't you think it's a bit hasty to dismiss an earlier question and answer after only six hours of waiting? I can't stay up all night waiting for someone to answer my question on a message board.

Lindolirian: I guess your answer is all right - I'm not that sure about the link between Thranduil and Beleg, though. On the other hand, it's quite likely that they met in Doriath, since they were both highly respected Sindar. The route I had in mind is Tom Bombadil -> Frodo -> Galadriel -> Thingol -> Beleg.

[ April 29, 2002: Message edited by: Elenhin ]

Turambar · 04-29-2002, 11:35 AM

Lindolirian - what's the Thranduil - Beleg connection? Just curious.

Dior · 04-29-2002, 09:04 PM

He's assuming that since they both lived in Doriath they met.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 04-30-2002, 04:02 PM

Elenhin: I'm sorry for being hasty, I guess that's why my name isn't Fangorn [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ April 30, 2002: Message edited by: Gimli Son Of Gloin ]

Lindolirian · 04-30-2002, 04:28 PM

I was thinking Thranduil Beleg connection as they both lived in Doriath... anyways

Barrow wight (the one in the book) --> Isildur

[ April 30, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Voronwe · 04-30-2002, 05:45 PM

Barrow Wight -> Frodo -> Elrond -> Isildur

Lindolirian · 05-01-2002, 11:15 AM

correct

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 05-01-2002, 03:45 PM

Is someone gonna post a queston?

Lindolirian · 05-01-2002, 04:26 PM

still a bit hasty, eh? its only been a little less than a day since Voronwe posted the correct answer and evn less since i confirmed it..... just wait a bit. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 05-01-2002, 04:55 PM

I'm sorry, for being hasty, I wouldn't last a minute as an Ent in an Entmoot...

Voronwe · 05-02-2002, 12:14 PM

Eol -> Bard

Lindolirian · 05-03-2002, 02:18 PM

Eol-> Aredhel-> Turgon-> Galadriel-> Bilbo-> Bard

[ May 03, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Voronwe · 05-04-2002, 03:59 AM

Correct.

Lindolirian · 05-04-2002, 10:49 AM

Gimli--> Angrim

Joy · 05-04-2002, 10:27 PM

Gimli -> Elrond -> Dior -> Beren ->
Barahir -> Angrim

04-15-2002, 03:24 AM	#41
Mat_Heathertoes Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: A Broom cupboard in Utumno Posts: 185	Ungoliant ---> Bergil __________________ Give me fish now, and keep nassty chips!

04-15-2002, 03:49 AM	#42
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Hmmm Maybe as simple as: Ungoliant - Shelob - Sam/frodo - Pippin - Bergil __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-15-2002, 06:30 AM	#43
Mat_Heathertoes Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: A Broom cupboard in Utumno Posts: 185	Tch-Oh! Telchar found another way. I'd had Ungoliant - Shelob - Gollum - Faramir - Bergil .. but there it is ... Telchar takes up the baton once more. __________________ Give me fish now, and keep nassty chips!

04-15-2002, 07:21 AM	#44
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Melian ---> Grima __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-15-2002, 07:48 AM	#45
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Melian - > Galadriel - > Gimli - > Grima __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

04-15-2002, 08:23 AM	#46
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Perfect - I hadn't even seen that one! BtW could somebody clarify the rules to me? For ex. must there be a explicit statement that two persons interacted or are you allowed to assume that they did??? For ex. Melian - directly to Olorin - Grima ??? or Melian - Irmo - Olorin - Grima ??? would they hold in court??? and to weird things: What about Melkor - Thorondor - Gwaihir - Sam ? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-16-2002, 03:28 PM	#47
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	As a matter of fact I'm not too clear on the rules myself. I tend to make a 'link' when there has been a meeting or directly implied meeting (i.e. 2 characters in the same place at the same time) between 2 characters. I probably wouldn't connect Melian to Olorin unless I really had to, even though it's very likely that they met. I'd hesitate to make the link between Thorondor and Gwaihir, since Gwaihir was only descended from Thorondor but didn't actually meet him. But that's just my opinnion, and I'm not sure what BW's original intentions were. Anyway, the next one is: Tar-Anárion -> Anárion __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

04-17-2002, 01:24 AM	#48
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Good one! Tar-Anarion - Tar Ancalime - Tar Aldarion - Gil-galad - Elendil - Anarion I would probably leave out Tar Ancalime and Elendil ... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-17-2002, 09:11 AM	#49
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	That's exactly how I did it. Ask away. __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

04-18-2002, 03:35 AM	#50
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Ibun ----> Mathan __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-23-2002, 09:32 AM	#51
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Do you mean Mahtan, the Noldorin smith? If so then: Ibun -> Turin -> Orodreth -> Finarfin -> Fëanor -> Mahtan __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

04-23-2002, 09:58 AM	#52
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Indeed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

04-25-2002, 03:56 PM	#53
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Ok, how about: Galion -> Gorlim __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

04-25-2002, 09:53 PM	#54
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Galion -> King Thranduil -> Galadriel -> Finrod Felagund -> Barahir -> Gorlim the Unhappy This is the best I can do here. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

04-26-2002, 05:50 AM	#55
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Or Galion - Bilbo - Aragorn - Sauron - Gorlim ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

04-26-2002, 11:31 AM	#56
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Working in the assumption that Galadriel was there when Celeborn and Thranduil met, Joy's answer is fine. Personally I would have had Bilbo instead of Thranduil, with everything else the same. Ask away, Joy. __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

04-26-2002, 10:07 PM	#57
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Legolas --> Vardamir __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

04-26-2002, 10:37 PM	#58
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	Legolas - Beren - Dior - Elwing - Elros - Vardamir? Probably wrong, I'm assuming Legolas met Beren in Doriath. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

04-27-2002, 05:50 AM	#59
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Legolas -> Elrond -> Elros -> Vardamir

04-27-2002, 02:19 PM	#60
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Elenhin, good job. Your turn. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

04-28-2002, 05:49 AM	#61
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Tom Bombadil -> Beleg (of Doriath)

04-28-2002, 03:16 PM	#62
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Tom Bombadil --> Frodo --> Legolas --> Thranduil --> Beleg __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

04-28-2002, 09:43 PM	#63
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	He's not replying, so let me. Sam->Lord of Nazûl [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

04-28-2002, 10:06 PM	#64
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Sam -> Merry -> Lord of the Nazgul or Sam -> Merry -> Eowyn -> Lord of the Nazgul __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

04-28-2002, 10:37 PM	#65
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	correct! your turn __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

04-29-2002, 09:20 AM	#66
Elenhin Wight Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Vantaa, Finland Posts: 205	Gimli, don't you think it's a bit hasty to dismiss an earlier question and answer after only six hours of waiting? I can't stay up all night waiting for someone to answer my question on a message board. Lindolirian: I guess your answer is all right - I'm not that sure about the link between Thranduil and Beleg, though. On the other hand, it's quite likely that they met in Doriath, since they were both highly respected Sindar. The route I had in mind is Tom Bombadil -> Frodo -> Galadriel -> Thingol -> Beleg. [ April 29, 2002: Message edited by: Elenhin ]

04-29-2002, 11:35 AM	#67
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Lindolirian - what's the Thranduil - Beleg connection? Just curious. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

04-29-2002, 09:04 PM	#68
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	He's assuming that since they both lived in Doriath they met. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

04-30-2002, 04:02 PM	#69
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	Elenhin: I'm sorry for being hasty, I guess that's why my name isn't Fangorn [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ April 30, 2002: Message edited by: Gimli Son Of Gloin ] __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

04-30-2002, 04:28 PM	#70
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I was thinking Thranduil Beleg connection as they both lived in Doriath... anyways Barrow wight (the one in the book) --> Isildur [ April 30, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

04-30-2002, 05:45 PM	#71
Voronwe Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Gondolin Posts: 413	Barrow Wight -> Frodo -> Elrond -> Isildur __________________ "If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things." -- René Descartes

05-01-2002, 11:15 AM	#72
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	correct __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-01-2002, 03:45 PM	#73
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	Is someone gonna post a queston? __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

05-01-2002, 04:26 PM	#74
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	still a bit hasty, eh? its only been a little less than a day since Voronwe posted the correct answer and evn less since i confirmed it..... just wait a bit. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-01-2002, 04:55 PM	#75
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	I'm sorry, for being hasty, I wouldn't last a minute as an Ent in an Entmoot... __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.