WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

The Huntsman: (hunter)
Hansel:
Gretel:
Little Red Cap:
Big Bad Wolf:
Old Witch:
Ugly Stepsister:
Robber Bridegroom:
+ 1 Ordinary Villager

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Nerwen
Eomer
McCaber
Gaurcrist
Kath
Inziladun
Fea
Lari
the phantom

If these are the remaining players, aren't you leaving someone out?

[Gaurcrist]

So, I would like everybody, if they want to, to say what they think I am. Am I

a) The Huntsman

b) Hansel

c) Gretel

d) Little Red Cap

e) Big Bad Wolf

f) Old Witch

g) Ugly Stepsister

h) Robber Bridegroom

i) Just a good old hearty villager

[Gaurcrist]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

If these are the remaining players, aren't you leaving someone out?

Who?

[Inziladun]

I didn't see Mira on there. As far as I know, she's still with us.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I hope you realise, Gaurcrist, that if you are innocent you've done absolutely nothing to help the village. That's why I trust you are on the villains' side.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Mira's the Seer; I left Seer off the corresponding list too.

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Didn't you know? Gaurcrist is secretly me!

So he's you and phantom? Jeeeeze.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I didn't see Mira on there. As far as I know, she's still with us.

Yup! Didn't get rid of me just quite yet.

++Fea

[Inziladun]

Mira! The reports of your demise have been greatly exaggerated. Any luck with your latest dream?

[Mirandir]

Unless the rest of you can find the other two wolves, things won't go too well for us. My dream last night was a success, but not in that sense.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Evil
My name is evil
I love my evil
Oh yes I do.

Evil
I am so evil
It makes me happy
To kill all of you.

Except my wooooooolves
who are evil too!

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Mira

So he's you and phantom? Jeeeeze.

Ha! Not even close. Gaurcrist is actually....

The Barrow-Wight!!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Whoa!

[Mirandir]

Unfortunately the ranger is gone so we're down protection but I do have an idea. Hansel and Gretel should reveal toDay. This would identify two more non-wolves for the village and make the Huntsman's job easier. Thoughts on the matter?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I think the first two people to claim they're Hansel and Gretel are definitely the wolves.

[Lariren Shadow]

Thoughts as to Mira: how would we be able to tell who is really who? It could be a wolf trying to break through. And there is no real way to prove that they are not a wolf.

Who was your dream of last Night? I mean, was it anyone interesting?

[Lariren Shadow]

And to make sure I do this before I possibly forget:

++Fea

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Mira

Unfortunately the ranger is gone so we're down protection but I do have an idea. Hansel and Gretel should reveal toDay. This would identify two more non-wolves for the village and make the Huntsman's job easier. Thoughts on the matter?

Heck no! Everything is difficult enough for me without those two blasted children revealing. I want to lynch them. So stay hidden, kids, or I'll eat you in your beds.

[Mirandir]

Oh my. It is very late. Seeing as how I'll probably be dead by toMorrow, good luck to the village! I've done what I can for you guys.

**This post doesn't count for any code. Explanation to come from someone other than myself**

[Nerwen]

All right... the betting's open.

Who or what is Gaurcrist?

the phantom (4-1)

Fea (6-1)

Nilpaurion Felagund (5-1)

Sally (7-1)

Hookbill the Goomba (9-1)

The Barrow Wight (11-1)

Boromir88 (4-1)

Wilwa (6-1)

Legate (7-1)

Me (8-1)

Some other Downer (7-1)

An AI (12-1)

Something else (8-1)

And what is his role?

Originally Posted by Gaurcrist

I don't know what to do. I'm thinking about voting tp again, just to be consistent, but Fea seems pretty suspicious.

No, really? What tipped you off?

And then, of course, he votes phantom again... instead of the known wolf!

So... I think this is getting a little beyond mere newbie-ness, don't you think?

The obvious explanation is that he's the Robber Bridegroom... but he could be a newbie wolf. I'm afraid that would probably fit best with his being LRC– perhaps turned the Night he double-quitted. (Unless the whole "quitting" thing was staged.)

Meanwhile, though, we've got this from the phantom:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Heck no! Everything is difficult enough for me without those two blasted children revealing. I want to lynch them. So stay hidden, kids, or I'll eat you in your beds.

Is this an official confession, tp?

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Is this an official confession, tp?

So, I guess you missed my last two posts yesterday then? (this and this)

Already confessed dearie.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Mirandir

Unfortunately the ranger is gone so we're down protection but I do have an idea. Hansel and Gretel should reveal toDay. This would identify two more non-wolves for the village and make the Huntsman's job easier. Thoughts on the matter?

Too early for that, I think. It makes the wolves' job easier– narrows down who the Huntsman might be (also Red Cap if she hasn't been turned/killed yet)... giving them a risk-free kill toMorrow Night. Also, we won't know whether anyone revealing as Hansel or Gretel is the real thing, a wolf, or the RB. Add to that the fact that if there's a false reveal and the real Hansel or Gretel chooses to lie low (for any of the above reasons) he or she is liable to be disbelieved later on. (c.f. what happened to the Ranger in Lommy's game.)

EDIT: X'd with tp.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

So, I guess you missed my last two posts yesterday then? (this and this)

Already confessed dearie.

Ahhh... That's what you get for skimming.

Well, well. That makes it easier. Now we just have to work out whether you're the actual Robber Bridegroom, or a wolf.

[Nerwen]

This confession post of tp's is (deliberately?) contradictory...

Originally Posted by the phantom

But wait! Isn't it possible that I'm faking it? Oooo..... Think about that.

Now, that is what he might say if he were the RB preparing to "reveal" as a wolf...

But this–

Originally Posted by the phantom

baddies know what I am for sure. If I'm the RB, the pack knows it. If I'm a pack member, the RB knows it and can help me out and take my place in the lynch.

...is what he might say if he were a wolf sending coded instructions to the RB.

Quite a conundrum.

Am I reading too much into the fact the Gaurcrist seems to be trying really hard to be next on the lynch-list?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Am I reading too much into the fact the Gaurcrist seems to be trying really hard to be next on the lynch-list?

Well, he's outright asked us to do it (dared us, actually) at least twice. I may have to take him up on that soon.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Phantom, love of mine, I applaud you for making it so easy for me to find you. If I hadn't screwed it up, it would have made for some nice evidence of my seerhood.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I should say so. Feawolf made a good try with the 'I'm the real seer' bit, but neglected to pay attention to detail. A small oversight, but it proved fatal. Small oversights often do.
At least there is now no doubt of Mira's credibility.
I hope her latest dream is a good one. We're finally making some headway.

She dreamed the Huntsman. (By the way, as an Australian, I find that name terribly funny – not to mention recent news headlines like Huntsman Named Ambassador to China.

...But I digress.

Let's get on with betting.

tp is the Robber Bridegroom and Gaurcrist is a wolf. (2-1)

Gaurcirst is the Robber Bridegroom and tp is a wolf. (2-1)

They're both wolves. (2-1).

Gaurcrist is innocent. (25-1)

EDIT: punctuation.

[the phantom]

Well, really, let's not draw this out any longer. Fea deserves a quick clean death.

++Fea

The fun begins tomorrow. Sleepy time now.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Any Hansel or Gretel reveal can be worked to ensure we lynch correctly. i.e. give the two claimees equal votes and the real one can save him/herself.

But it's correct to say that it makes the wolves' kill choice easier, so let's wait on this.

++FEA

Told you phantom was up to no good.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I will be away this weekend with no internet access. Since Mirandir will be slain tonight I think I might as well let the village know what I know.

What do you think? I'll be able to vote early on Friday but that's it.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Nerwen
McCaber
Kath
Inziladun
Lari

If I am leaning towards Gaurcrist being another wolf, this leaves me wondering who among this lot is the last evil one. Off to re-read the thread (unless work gets in the way).

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Day One.

#99 - After Kath points out that Agan voiced mild suspicion of Boro and tp, [but didn't want to vote for them], Agan (fairly, I think) explains. Then she tries to buddy up to Kath. This makes Kath look quite good to me; not sure if the wolves would interact like that on Day One.

#131 - Defends Boro (innocent).

#148 - Suspects Fea (evil), defends Boro. Suspicion of Lommy and Greenie mixed in there.

#187 - Votes Shasta to save Boro and Nienna (all innocent).

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Day Two

#244 - Again puts some suspicion on Fea. Also suspicion on McCaber.

Then some talk with Gaurcrist about using invisible mode. An overly elaborate ruse?

#263 - "Also, her suggestion that phantom & Gaurcrist's clash was wolf-on-wolf was weird." Too perfect.

#314 - Big list post.

Guilty: Gwath, Fea, Izzy, Green, Lari, Mira, Sally.
Inocent: Kath, Eomer, Inziladun
Neither: Mith, McCaber, Gaurcrist, Nerwen, Shasta, Boro, phantom.

Votes Izzy.

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So, that list is pretty interesting.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Day Three

#383 - Suspects Eomer. Bothered by Inzil and Greenie.

#440 - Connects Eomer and Inziladun. Now this obviously interests me greatly! Makes me feel better about Inzil, if Aganzir was hoping to lynch the both of us.

Votes Izzy.


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Day Four

#547 - Again goes for Inziladun. Says Nerwen and Kath look good.

Now, McCaber votes for Aganzir very early, while there is still discussion about who was lying: Aganzir or Izzy. He is certain we've found a wolf. This is veeery interesting.

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And there we have it.

[Inziladun]

It's hard for me to tell what to take seriously from Agan. It seems in retrospect that she put quite a bit of effort into throwing off false leads and trails.
I do find her and tp's interactions with Gaurcrist, and the latter's subsequent odd behaviour, quite interesting.

x'd with Eomer

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I think Kath and Inziladun are innocent. I'll be having a closer look at Nerwen, McCaber and Larien during the night. Gaurcrist is the other wolf. Phantom's the RB. I could have tp and Gaurcrist switched around but that's not a huge deal at this stage.

If anyone else wants to play that would be great.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

If anyone else wants to play that would be great.

I'm here, even if no one else is.
Maybe the easy lynch today explains the lack of participation. Day 6 needs to be more lively if we're to have a chance.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

anyone else wants to play that would be great.

All right, I'm here. I'll get back to you when I've done some reading.

EDIT: fixed quotes; x'd with Zil (have we settled on a nickname for him yet)?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I'm here, even if no one else is.
Maybe the easy lynch today explains the lack of participation. Day 6 needs to be more lively if we're to have a chance.

Well, the fact that I've got a major assignment due explains my lack of participation... but you're right– once a village has two or three wolves bagged, it can became lazy, with fatal results. I've played in quite a few games where that's happened.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Deadline now.

I'll be interested in watching the Hunter shenanigans tomorrow (well, for a little while anyway - cursed weekend away).

[wilwarin538]

Narration will be up in about 10-15 minutes. Feel free to keep talking until then though. Once it's up, please stop.