Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

But we don't want to talk about THAT, do we?

Definitely not. Election? What election? I don't think there was an election. *hides in her happy place and stuff and junk*


Alternatively, I really am sorry about my tasty post. Longest post I've done all game and my internet ate it.

[satansaloser2005]

Wait a tick. Fea revealed Eomer, right? And me, and Noggie. Then that pushes Brinn and Gwath to reveal, which means the baddies now have a list of most of the clears, whoever's the real gifteds. Which also means that whoever turns out to be right....oh my giddy aunt....

Sacred bovine! Nog, we've been set up!


Forget this. I'm going to bed. Hopefully see you all in the Morning. If I'm not dead. *wibbles* Or future lynch fodder. Bloody gifteds and their complicating things.


(Sorry. A bit skittish. Long day, not including the election, and my brain is SO ADD right now. Off for now)


ETA: Did Gollum even vote? Because seriously, people not voting is getting ridiculous. Groin too. Blah.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by lil old me

Wait a tick. Fea revealed Eomer, right? And me, and Noggie. Then that pushes Brinn and Gwath to reveal, which means the baddies now have a list of most of the clears, whoever's the real gifteds. Which also means that whoever turns out to be right....oh my giddy aunt....

Sacred bovine! Nog, we've been set up!


Forget this. I'm going to bed. Hopefully see you all in the Morning. If I'm not dead. *wibbles* Or future lynch fodder. Bloody gifteds and their complicating things.


(Sorry. A bit skittish. Long day, not including the election, and my brain is SO ADD right now. Off for now)


ETA: Did Gollum even vote? Because seriously, people not voting is getting ridiculous. Groin too. Blah.

I should explain that a bit better, yeah?

Two scenarios.

Gwath and Brinn are telling the truth:
Thus Fea and Eomer are lying, and Fea's told everyone that Nog and I (among others? sleepy, so I don't remember) are innocent. So if she dies and is guilty, we look horrible by association. Me more than Nog, as Brinn doesnt' seem to suspect him very much.

Fea and Eomer are telling the truth:
Eomer dies, proving Fea right (sort of). Thus the baddies now know that Nog and I are innocent, and why wouldn't the lovers go after known innocents? So one of us would die most likely.

Either way, I'm/we're in deep trouble. Can I cry for my mummy now?

(Does that make more sense than my original post? I hope so. If not, I'll hopefully clarify toMorrow)

[Brinniel]

Hush, hush, no talk of the E word...that's what Facebook's for.

Anyways, if the lovers don't die toDay...good luck choosing a kill now that you know there's two rangers to watch out for. There's no knowing who we're gonna protect. Haha.

EDIT: X-ed with Sally

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Hush, hush, no talk of the E word...that's what Facebook's for.

Anyways, if the lovers don't die toDay...good luck choosing a kill now that you know there's two rangers to watch out for. There's no knowing who we're gonna protect. Haha.

EDIT: X-ed with Sally

Yeah, but the only person I have on Facebook is Sally...

[Diamond18]

After a day of much heated discussion, role reveals, counter role reveals, and one instance of flashing which everyone later agreed to pretend never happened, the Lonely Hearts finally decided who to kill. Because no matter what, no matter who, each day must end in blood. Twas the Lonely Heart way.

Or was it?

Eomer of the Rohirrim was selected for death. But before anyone could touch him to strike or slash or smother or bloody or maim or disembowel, he smiled enigmatically and drew forth a bow and arrow which had been, amazingly, hidden beneath his housecoat. He held the LHers at bay, and for one long moment none knew what might happen. Possibly he had some bizarre role wherein once voted for, he got to kill the entire "village" in an epic display of nonsensical carnage?!?

But no.

“I am the Ranger,” he said. “The Lovers' Ranger. Come, my dear Psyche, our time amongst the mortals is ended.” And so saying, he reached out his hand to Fea.

“Phooey,” said Fea -- or rather, Psyche. But she took his hand anyway. “I tried my best, dear Cupid. And yeah, I figured out it was you. I don’t need a dream to show me my true love’s face!”

“Barf,” said Brinniel.

But the Immortal Lovers, he the Cobbler Ranger and she the Cobbler Seer, paid her no mind. They heard the voice of Venus calling them home, for their time was ended now that the Lonely Hearts no longer tolerated Cupid to stay.

Cupid shot a bow towards the sky, and then the spirits of Cupid and Psyche departed the mortal bodies of Eomer and Fea. No longer possessed by those mischievous immortals, the pair of once lonely hearts fell dead.

Whether or not the son of Venus and his bride had succeeded in their mission here on earth, only time would tell.....

It is now Night

The Living Lonely Hearts Club:

Groin
Gollum
Nogrod
Brinniel
Sally
Shasta
Gwath

Hearts Which Have Stopped Beating:

Diamond (Lonely Heart)
Lommy (Lonely Heart)
Legate (Lonely Heart)
Lalaith (Lonely Heart)
Eönwë (Lonely Heart)
Kitanna (Lonely Heart)
Rikae (Lonely Heart)
Macalaure (Lonely Heart)
McCaber (Tristan)
Greenie (Isolde)
Aganzir (Lonely Heart)
Eomer (Cupid)
Fea (Psyche)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Yeah, but the only person I have on Facebook is Sally...

Poor baby. So add people.




By the way, if I remember right Gwath said something about the ranger in one of his earlier posts (before he revealed, assuming it's correct) that made me do a double take. Makes a bit more sense now, eh?

EDIT: Crap. X'd with Di.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Sally

Does that make more sense than my original post?

Not really, but it's late so I forgive you.

PS. I'll stalk you on FB, Shasta

EDIT: X-ed with deadline...sorry

[Diamond18]

I WILL HAVE THE LAST POST!

I mean. Ahem. GoodNight everyone.

[Diamond18]

A murder was attempted that night, but it was foiled. Saying anything further at such a stage in the game, i.e. mentioning names, would be entirely too much information.

However, the Lonely Hearts still found themselves one less. They noticed that Groin was not present, and a search of the hotel did not enlighten them as to his whereabouts. No one could remember seeing him for several days. It was speculated that he fell down an elevator shaft, but all agreed that in that case there might be a smell. The more likely scenario was that he had taken his chances in the ocean waves and swam for the mainland.

And then there were six.

The Living Lonely Hearts Club:

Gollum
Nogrod
Brinniel
Sally
Shasta
Gwath

Hearts Which Have Stopped Beating:

Diamond (Lonely Heart)
Lommy (Lonely Heart)
Legate (Lonely Heart)
Lalaith (Lonely Heart)
Eönwë (Lonely Heart)
Kitanna (Lonely Heart)
Rikae (Lonely Heart)
Macalaure (Lonely Heart)
McCaber (Tristan)
Greenie (Isolde)
Aganzir (Lonely Heart)
Eomer (Cupid)
Fea (Psyche)

[satansaloser2005]

Heh. I like how Groin isn't even listed among the dead.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Well.

Brinn and Gwath are our gifteds, obviously.

Brinn has cleared Nogrod and myself.

That leaves Sally and Gollum as the two lovers.

[Gwathagor]

I believe you are right, and I suspect Brinniel will support us on this.

So do we lynch Sally or Gollum? It doesn't make much difference, but we should all vote for the same person.

[Gollum the Great]

Wait a second.

How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Wait a second.

How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo.

Because Eomer and Fea died evil, and no innocent Gifteds have died yet, and Di wouldn't have left us giftedless?

Well, if we want to be canon (as I suspect Gollum and Sally are Romeo and Juliet), we ought to vote Gollum.

[Nogrod]

Well done people!

I would have liked to lynch Fea more than Eomer (I was more convinced of her guilt) but I must say the choice between Eomer and Brinn was quite easy to make. And the result was the same anyway... *

So what now?

The scenario Shasta outlined seems to be the obvious one and by leaving the game for good Groin made it even clearer. How disappointing! This was getting interesting and fun!

And the fact that no one died last Night even if a kill was attempted kind of talks on behalf of a two ranger -theory - or at least on behalf of Brinn being targeted and saved by Gwath and thus adding credibility to the general theory about the roles.

If nothing very disturbing is not coming forwards toDay I'm quite ready to vote for Gollum or Sally toDay to end the game.

But if there is still some mischief around we need to go and look back first. It would be bad to lose a game just because we lulled ourselves to a premature good feeling and confidence.

Although one thing no one has yet mentioned would speak on behalf of there being only one pair of lovers left. And that is the fact that Fea and Eomer were cobbler lovers which probably means they had no kills of their own. Thus there were two kills (attempts) per Night before Cabbie & Greenie were lynched and only one after that.

So Sally and Gollum, you should try to convince us (me and Shasta) that Brinn and Gwath are faking lovers and not actually the seer and the ranger. Or that Brinn has for some reason lied to the village and either me or Shasta (or both... or any combination of the four others than you) are the last lovers...

I waiting for your cases.

But to feel a bit more confident myself I will also take a tour back to check a few things even if the case against Sally and Gollum looks pretty believable at the moment.


Edit * Funny how staying awake late kills one's memory... I was pretty convinced Fea was a baddie yesterDay until that false-seer idea came up (and which I had totally forgotten until I went back and read the last Day through just now). Had Fea been just a false seer she would probably have been counted as an innocent... But we made it and that's good.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Wait a second.

How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo.

I am in the process of pulling up an evil scheme especially for you, Gollum. And here it is:

++Gollum

[Nogrod]

Good to see someone else around.

I went back checking Brinn's dreams and her posts and it looks pretty consistent (well, were she a baddie she would have looked to it).

There's indeed only one question I'd like to make to Brinn.

So how come you decided to dream of Gwath the Night before even if Fea had made that "revelation" of hers the Day before that already? Somehow you didn't feel it compelling enough to check her out but chose Gwath?

[Brinniel]

About Fea and Eomer: It seems they weren't completely lying. There were three rangers after all; it's just one was evil. I can't believe I was actually right about something without dreaming it...Fea was indeed a cobbler seer.

Well, with Groin's modfire it seems clear enough, but here it is anyway:

++Sally

Though you may call her Juliet.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So how come you decided to dream of Gwath the Night before even if Fea had made that "revelation" of hers the Day before that already? Somehow you didn't feel it compelling enough to check her out but chose Gwath?

I didn't dream of her because I figured she was evil in one way or another, and wasn't worth my time. Meanwhile, Gwath I had no idea about.

[Nogrod]

Gwath voted for Gollum.
Brinn voted for Sally.

And did you forget to dream last Night Brinn? If you were the real seer giving the information about the result of it would have been a natural thing to do just to give us others an understanding of the situation. I mean if what you have said is true you'd had 2/3 chances of getting us the baddie.

But on the contrary you say:

Originally Posted by Brinn

Well, with Groin's modfire it seems clear enough

So you do not know it for sure?

Something is not right here...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gwath voted for Gollum.
Brinn voted for Sally.

And did you forget to dream last Night Brinn? If you were the real seer giving the information about the result of it would have been a natural thing to do just to give us others an understanding of the situation. I mean if what you have said is true you'd had 2/3 chances of getting us the baddie.

But on the contrary you say: So you do not know it for sure?

Something is not right here...

I'd second this, for I find it very odd too, but then again if I was a lover I'd say the same thing, so what's the use?


Hey, Shasta's being canonical! Woot!

[Brinniel]

Sorry, I realised I probably should've voted Gollum after I already voted.

I dreamt of Sally, which is why I voted her.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So you do not know it for sure?

I didn't say that. Sally is a lover. I know that for a fact. And Gollum is the other lover because he's the only one left I haven't dreamed of. Unless Di gave me false dreams.

[Brinniel]

For the record:

Dreams:

Night 1: Mac
Night 2: Nogrod
Night 3: Shasta
Night 4: Gwath
Night 5: Sally

Protection:

Night 1: Greenie
Night 2: myself
Night 3: Nogrod
Night 4: myself
Night 5: Gwath

I didn't reveal my record as ranger before because it isn't all that impressive. I protected a lover, plus I protected myself twice...that makes me feel selfish (though as a seer I was truly scared of dying).

Gwath, who did you protect?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

For the record:

Dreams:

Night 1: Mac
Night 2: Nogrod
Night 3: Shasta
Night 4: Gwath
Night 5: Sally

Protection:

Night 1: Greenie
Night 2: myself
Night 3: Nogrod
Night 4: myself
Night 5: Gwath

I didn't reveal my record as ranger before because it isn't all that impressive. I protected a lover, plus I protected myself twice...that makes me feel selfish (though as a seer I was truly scared of dying).

Gwath, who did you protect?

Wow. Di let you protect yourself? Different indeed.

Heh. Obviously last night he protected you. Other than that he'll have to tell.

Understand we had to at least TRY to kill you last night, Brinn. The game was over either way.

[Nogrod]

Are you trying to say Brinn, that you dreamt of Sally and knew she was a lover but still justified your vote with:

Originally Posted by Brinn

Well, with Groin's modfire it seems clear enough, but here it is anyway:
++Sally

What did Groin's modifre have to do with the guilt of Sally if you knew it via a dream? And why is it "clear enough" and not "sure knowledge"?

Were you a seer you would have said something like: okay, it's packed and clear dearies, Sally is a lover and we'll lynch her toDay - we win!", or whatever. But not: because Groin is out it seems clear enough we should vote for Sally!

I kind of suspected your wording with your vote post yesterDay as I said already. And this doesn't look any better. Indeed it's far more suspicious. Are you too excited to win as some sort of a baddie (the last pair of lovers with Gwath?) you forget what you should look like when posing as a seer?

Darn! It looked so easy a few hours ago...

But fun! It's still not sure!

EDIT: Gah, x'd with Sally... hey, where's the sportsmanship Sally?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Are you trying to say Brinn, that you dreamt of Sally and knew she was a lover but still justified your vote with: What did Groin's modifre have to do with the guilt of Sally if you knew it via a dream? And why is it "clear enough" and not "sure knowledge"?

Were you a seer you would have said something like: okay, it's packed and clear dearies, Sally is a lover and we'll lynch her toDay - we win!", or whatever. But not: because Groin is out it seems clear enough we should vote for Sally!

I kind of suspected your wording with your vote post yesterDay as I said already. And this doesn't look any better. Indeed it's far more suspicious. Are you too excited to win as some sort of a baddie (the last pair of lovers with Gwath?) you forget what you should look like when posing as a seer?

Darn! It looked so easy a few hours ago...

But fun! It's still not sure!

Ummmm yeah. What he said. *shifty eyes*

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Understand we had to at least TRY to kill you last night, Brinn. The game was over either way.

Bah. I was just getting interested if there still was some freaky possibility of a one more twist to this game that would challenge one's brain again to figure it out...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

EDIT: Gah, x'd with Sally... hey, where's the sportsmanship Sally?

Oh don't worry, I'll still have my fun. But I accept defeat with dignity. And stuff and junk. Besides, where there's no coordination there's no hope for a slick save. *cryptic message is cryptic*


Mind that I didn't post until she said it outright though. I may be a bit slow, but I'm not giving up until the fat lady sings/the seer reveals all.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Sally

Wow. Di let you protect yourself? Different indeed.

Yeah, but I think it's usually the case...at least it is half the time.

Originally Posted by Sally

Heh. Obviously last night he protected you. Other than that he'll have to tell.

Understand we had to at least TRY to kill you last night, Brinn. The game was over either way.

That's what I figured since the only shot you had at winning was the event of my death (and even then, only if Groin wasn't modfired)...but I wanted to be sure. Obviously I was a bit nervous during the Night since I couldn't protect myself again and I didn't know who Gwath protected the Night before..

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Bah. I was just getting interested if there still was some freaky possibility of a one more twist to this game that would challenge one's brain again to figure it out...

What makes you think I'm not lying? There may be more cobblers, love.


I mean, oops! What?


[/messing with your head....enjoy working everything out, dear]

[Brinniel]

Heh, sorry Nogrod. Though I was getting frustrated that you were doubting me. But at least I kept you entertained and confused....and therefore happy.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

But at least I kept you entertained and confused....and therefore happy.

Appreciated!!!

I mean it looked so clear and straightforward that I started to wonder whether there was something in there and you looked the most suspicious as a key to that possible mystery.

But to be quite frank I wasn't too happy with those suspicions. I was merely waiting for your reactions if they would have given me something to really start suspecting... Well, they never came.

But we will win!

Unless we manage to continue voting across each other...

[Nogrod]

Talking of which...

++ Sally

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Talking of which...

++ Sally

Bloody devil.


EDIT: Spoilers. Just realized I can still have fun. Just a different kind. No real content to this post to begin with, so yeah.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Bloody devil.

... is a loser 2008?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

... is a loser 2008?

Tehe.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Where's my canon!

++Gollum

[Nogrod]

Haha.

With that kind of voting we'll end up with three people at the same vote in a village where the last baddie was dreamt of...!

Luckily Sally was the first to gain the two she got...

[Diamond18]

I don't care. I'm killing Gollum first.

So nyah.

(To be truly canonical, they'd have to vote for themselves, after all.)

Also, on an administrative note, Groin was not "modfired." He withdrew via PM.

[Gollum the Great]

Alright Nogrod. There's probably isn't much point in doing this, but how are you to know that Sally and me aren't some sort of super-cobblers, the kind that appears "guilty" on the seer's radar, but the true lovers appear as "innocent"? Wouldn't that be just like Di to fool around with your minds? Ponder on this, for I speak words of wisdom.