 |
"If thou will be slain, I will slay thee gladly. But small help will that be to Morwen and Nienor. No heed didst thou give to the cries of the Elf-woman. Wilt thou deny also the bond of thy blood?" Glaurung to Túrin |
 |
|
Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page |
11-22-2006, 04:07 AM
|
#681 |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
  |
No one's active, I see.
So, tell me, what do Finrod Felagund Thráin Beren Frodo have in common?
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
12-14-2006, 03:43 AM
|
#682 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
They were all, at one point, captured in a by the Enemy? (all in a tower, I might add)
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-15-2006, 01:20 AM
|
#683 |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
|
That's true.
I'm not sure whether you refer to Sauron as "the Enemy" (as I thought the answer to be) or to both Melkor and Sauron, but anyway, feel welcome to take the thread. 
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
|
12-15-2006, 07:47 AM
|
#684 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
I refer to Sauron, I just didn't want to write him as person because it might be little bit confusing, since it was him personally who captured Beren and Felagund; and in the case of Frodo and Thráin he was not personally involved in the capture.
Okay, what do these characters have in common: Aragorn Frodo Gollum the Lord of the Ringwraith Sam 
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-15-2006, 02:58 PM
|
#685 |
|
Wight
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The best seat in the Golden Perch
Posts: 219
|
They all went under different identities at some point?
Aragorn as Thorongil, Frodo as Mr Underhill, Gollum as Smeagol, Lord of the Ringwraiths as The Witch King of Angmar, and Sam as a great elvish warrior. It's stretching it but all I can think of... |
|
|
|
|
12-15-2006, 03:54 PM
|
#686 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Nice attempt, but it is not what I meant. And I wouldn't consider the great elf warrior being Sam's other identity, it certainly was not an alter ego he adopted, when someone saw him regularly, he definitely could not believe his disguise any longer
But you have good points which can serve as good clues. Any other guesses?
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-17-2006, 10:05 AM
|
#687 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
Probably it's a stupid guess...but here goes: maybe they were all alive during the War of the Ring
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-17-2006, 04:10 PM
|
#688 | |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Quote:
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
|
12-17-2006, 04:21 PM
|
#689 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
hmmm...seems every time I find something that fits 4 of them the 5th is different
it is perhaps wrong, I'll try still they all passed through the Dead Marshes Aragorn when he captured Gollum, Gollum leading Sam and Frodo, and the WK on his foul beast
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 12:34 AM
|
#690 | |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Quote:
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 01:01 PM
|
#691 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
hmm...this is probably easy, but I somehow can't find the answer...
 maybe because they all looked for Gollum the WK was sent to find him Aragorn as well, and Frodo and Sam when they sometimes lost him... still, again they don't seem to be the only ones that did that
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 02:50 PM
|
#692 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Indeed, they were not the only ones. And Gollum certainly didn't look for himself (well, maybe he could, considering his dual identity). And again, it is not stated in the books that WK personally did search for Gollum - I could write "all the Nine" instead of just him. This might help you. My source is real evidence. I am saying that the thing they have in common is stated in the book explicitely. If it were, for example, that they all smoked pipeweed, I will place it here in the case that it was said in the book at some place, like: "...and WK was sitting there, smoking pipe", "And Frodo said: 'I'm going to take a smoke.'" - so: no deductions, no generalizations - you can read in the books about the thing they had in common (I hope I managed to explain it so that it is understandable).
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 03:15 PM
|
#693 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
perhaps because they all took the Morgul Road
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 03:34 PM
|
#694 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Yeesss! You made it
 They all walked "the dark valley of Morgul"... congratulations, it's your turn now 
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 04:23 PM
|
#695 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
hmm...strange, I had though about that some time ago, but I thought that might be wrong, since Gothmog did as well...
anyway... What do these characters have in common: Beor Aldor Grimbeorn
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 04:46 PM
|
#696 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
They were all old (I mean, called "Old"...)
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-18-2006, 05:05 PM
|
#697 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
hmm...I knew I should have picked something more difficult
correct
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 09:28 AM
|
#698 | |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Quote:
so take all the steps necessary. After that we can launch two assaults separately, PM me what thread will be the next target. ...so I'll just, erm, post another question, what do you... I mean, all you other people... say. So, what do these people have in common? Barliman Butterbur Bill Ferny Éowyn Fatty Bolger Farmer Maggot Frodo Gaffer Gamgee Gandalf Gríma Wormtongue Nob Saruman
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 11:08 AM
|
#699 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
I am not sure, but I guess they all talked to the Nazgul
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 11:14 AM
|
#700 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Correct! Okay, I think our plan works just fine thus far...
Your turn now.
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 11:36 AM
|
#701 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
lol...it wasn't this hard now, since Eowyn and Bill Ferny don't really have much in common
Anyway, what do these people have in common: Hilda Bracegirdle Thrain II Marmadas Brandybuck
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 11:51 AM
|
#702 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
They had three children?
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 11:59 AM
|
#703 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
correct...I expected it to be more difficult...
next one please
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 02:33 PM
|
#704 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Erm, have you considered what are we going to say to the others when they see this thread...
 Anyway... okay. So, again, what do these... people... have in common: Bilbo Baggins Celebrimbor Círdan Gil-Galad Thrór
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-19-2006, 03:50 PM
|
#705 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
they all possesed Rings of Power...
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-20-2006, 06:35 AM
|
#706 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
More people also did and they are not on the list.
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-20-2006, 07:05 AM
|
#707 |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
|
They all posessed a ring of power and gave it away.
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
|
12-20-2006, 07:23 AM
|
#708 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Correct!
Correct! Gave away willingly, if I wanted to be precise. But great, your turn now!
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
12-20-2006, 07:48 AM
|
#709 | |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
|
Quote:
So, what about: Daeron Maeglin Ted Sandyman in the movies Gwindor Celebrimbor Anyone who makes up a good theory can take the thread since I probably won't be around before next year to tell which is correct. This is so easy you should be able to figure out if your guess is correct or not.
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
|
|
12-20-2006, 11:47 AM
|
#710 |
|
Twisted Taleswapper
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity
Posts: 1,706
|
They were all slain? Or perhaps they were all betrayed?
__________________
grand return?........ |
|
|
|
|
12-20-2006, 01:30 PM
|
#711 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
they all betrayed others
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
12-29-2006, 10:21 AM
|
#712 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
Thinlómien ?
almost 10 days have passed... 
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
01-04-2007, 07:29 AM
|
#713 |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
|
I did say that someone with a proper answer can take it up... But since I'm back, never mind that.
No, no and no. And I though that was an easy one!
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
|
01-04-2007, 04:20 PM
|
#714 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
strange...I mixed Daeron with Saeros the first time....
but now that I realised who Daeron really is, I have absolutely no idea... maybe they all made poems ?
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
|
01-05-2007, 01:15 PM
|
#715 |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Zoetermeer
Posts: 29
 |
Hmm.... I looked over a few old ones, and a lot of them I knew, but this ones a complete riddle for me...
Last edited by Amras Oronar; 01-05-2007 at 01:26 PM. |
|
|
|
|
01-07-2007, 05:39 AM
|
#716 |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
|
Okay, you'll have a hint.
In order to be able to know about Celembrimbor, you need to have read the Unfinished Tales. In order to know about Ted Sandyman in the movies you need to have seen the extended editions. So focus on Daeron, Maeglin and Gwindor if you're not sure you know the others. The list is not actually comprehensive or near to perfect. I could add Celegorm and Brandir on it, and I'd probably be still forgetting some people. So, what do Daeron Maeglin Ted Sandyman in the movies Gwindor Celebrimbor Celegorm Brandir have in common? Does this help at all?
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
|
01-07-2007, 11:01 AM
|
#717 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
They were all in love with someone who loved someone else.
I haven't seen the extended, so this brings me to... Ted Sandyman was after Rosie?  That fits to the typical movie storyline, I suppose Otherwise, Daeron => Lúthien; Maeglin => Idril; Gwindor => Finduilas; Celebrimbor => Galadriel; Celegorm => Lúthien; Brandir => Nienor.
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
01-08-2007, 02:28 AM
|
#718 | |
|
Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 8,093
|
Cheers, Legate! I knew it was not that difficult. Feel free to take the thread.
Quote:
__________________
Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris
|
|
|
|
|
|
01-14-2007, 10:06 AM
|
#719 |
|
A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
|
Okay, I apologize for the longer delay. What do these people have in common:
Finrod Orodreth Thranduil Note: There's not only one thing they have in common, actually, there are three things - I want all three of them, since just single one of them is not significant. I hope this is not against rules, but the separate things are not so hard to think of. So, just try to think what do these people have in common, and do it three times, then add it together. Nothing so much hard. (one of these things is pretty obvious, I might add)
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories |
|
|
|
|
01-14-2007, 10:56 AM
|
#720 |
|
Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
Posts: 2,205
|
- they all lived in caves
- they all travelled eastward to their future realms - they all had problems caused by dragons
__________________
“The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.”
Delos B. McKown |
|
|
|
 |
|
|
|
|
Linear Mode
