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Morsul the Dark · 09-15-2005, 08:46 AM

actually giant is a straight translation...and Im reffering to roadrunner as squatter pointed out not the rocks

Turambar · 09-15-2005, 09:09 AM

Quickbeam?

Morsul the Dark · 09-15-2005, 09:15 AM

yay you can go

Turambar · 09-15-2005, 02:00 PM

I suggest we again try to solve Squatter's last puzzle.

Quote:

Worldly jewellery unsuitable for choral piece

I'll try some thinking aloud, and perhaps with a team effort we can solve this one:

1. The first difficulty is, what is the straight clue? Somehow I don't think that either worldly jewelry or choral piece is a straight clue, so maybe this is a rare cryptic clue without a "straight" part.

2. "Worldly" – Eä?

3. "Jewelry" inevitably suggests "ring" to me.

4. "Unsuitable" – ah, there's the rub. This must be a cryptic "pointer" of some kind, but what can it mean? "Unsuitable" means it doesn't fit. Could that mean that whatever "worldly jewelry" means, you shorten it before combining it with "choral piece"?

5. Finally, "choral piece" – probably means "CHOR", "CHO" or something like this.

Which gives us . . . WHAT, exactly? I thought of ECHORIATH, which has EARTH ("worldly"?) plus CHO ("choral piece"), but it doesn't fit with the rest.

Anyone else have an idea?

NightKnight · 09-16-2005, 11:13 AM

Actually, it fits quite well, since it's a "ring" of mountains, a very "earthly" ring.

Turambar · 09-16-2005, 11:31 AM

Hmmm - but what about "unsuitable"?

Morsul the Dark · 09-20-2005, 12:32 PM

actually is there perhaps another name for that? I mean maybe its "unsuitable for you to have that particular answer i mean...it could be that but another name for it?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-21-2005, 06:10 AM

There's some impressive thinking going on there. Unfortunately it's leading in entirely the wrong direction. I'll lend a hand by telling you that 'choral piece' doesn't refer to a portion of the word 'choral', and that 'echoriath' isn't the answer. Turambar's suggestions regarding 'worldly' and 'jewellery' are on the money, though. 'Unsuitable' carries on the jewellery metaphor, but the answer I'm looking for certainly wasn't welcome. I'm looking for an obscure alternative description for something ubiquitous in the legendarium.

As I said earlier, the answer is quite close to Home.

Mithalwen · 09-21-2005, 12:34 PM

You mean we need to have read HoME?

Turambar · 09-21-2005, 12:37 PM

The fact that it's obscure makes me feel better.

"Ubiquitous in the Legendarium" would make a good name for a band.

EDIT: I think that "choral piece" may be the straight clue. A choral piece is a song or lay. I don't know any obscure alternative names, other than ann-thennath, which refers to a particular type of song.

Mithalwen · 09-21-2005, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turambar

The fact that it's obscure makes me feel better.

"Ubiquitous in the Legendarium" would make a good name for a band.

Suddenly I have the feeling that English is not my first language...

the phantom · 09-21-2005, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Turambar's suggestions regarding 'worldly' and 'jewellery' are on the money

Okay, and Turumbar's said-

Quote:

2. "Worldly" – Eä?

3. "Jewelry" inevitably suggests "ring" to me.

Well- that certainly brings Morgoth's Ring to my mind, since it is the entire World made into a Ring.

Celebrian · 09-21-2005, 03:10 PM

How about Ring of Doom or Mahanaxar?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-22-2005, 04:07 AM

The Phantom has extended his dominion by getting the right answer.

Worldly jewellery: all of Middle-earth was Morgoth's ring.
Unsuitable for choral piece: the marring of Arda implicit in making it into Morgoth's ring was unsuitable for the choral piece.

Close to home: Morgoth's Ring is the title of HoME X.

the phantom · 09-22-2005, 12:14 PM

Here's one that probably won't take as long to solve-

Sports Illustrated, The Foremost in League Coverage: Massachusetts rivulet and charged particle destroys team unity in Valinor.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-23-2005, 09:23 AM

Silmarillion?

Sports Illustrated = SI
The Foremost in League Coverage = L
Massachusetts = Ma
rivulet = Rill
charged particle = Ion

The Silmarillion concerns the destruction of "team unity in Valinor".

Turambar · 09-23-2005, 09:47 AM

With those reasoning skills surely you could solve one of the remaining Password clues

the phantom · 09-23-2005, 11:04 AM

Perfect, Sauce.

Your turn.

the phantom · 09-28-2005, 11:27 PM

Either SPM is busy working on an absurdly difficult clue, or he is drawing a blank and is waiting for the ten day rule to save him.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-29-2005, 02:41 AM

Neither. I forgot that it was my turn ...

In an effort to attract fresh blood to this thread, here's an absurdly easy one:

Swift ray is faster than most.

Morsul the Dark · 10-25-2005, 08:33 AM

SPM you're talking to us welll especially me since when have i got these right?

if its "absurdly easy" Ill go with the obvious choice:

Shadowfax

Gothmog · 10-25-2005, 08:58 AM

I'd say Quickbeam. Quick=faster than most, Beam= ray.

And if I'm supposed to guess anything right, it can't get harder than this

I've red a few early clues here, and I'm truly impressed by you folks.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-25-2005, 09:10 AM

Sorry Morsul, it's not Shadowfax, although that's a good guess.

In fact, Gothmog is correct with Quickbeam.

Well done, Gothmog. The thread's all yours.

Morsul the Dark · 10-25-2005, 09:14 AM

good job gothmog that actually was fairly i thought it was a horse though

Gothmog · 10-25-2005, 09:56 AM

Thank you Morsul!

Oh your supposed to come up with one of these now? Whoa, that's not easy. I've constructed one, but I don't know if it is too simple or impossible to guess... Well, I trust SpM, phantom & Co could figure out anything so here i go:

A long way for the friend is this clue

Remember this is my first time...

Morsul the Dark · 10-29-2005, 12:18 PM

a long way for the friend
the friend is sam so

he came a long way to mordor?

mordor?

that doesnt sound right at all

Mithalwen · 10-29-2005, 02:06 PM

mellon? Elvish for friend that was the clue to getting into Moria? But that doesn't explain the long way..

Gothmog · 10-29-2005, 05:13 PM

Good guesses but no. Mithalwen is on the right track...sort of. This might be harder than I expected now when I think about it. I wanted something challenging for the quiz-pros I've seen in action here. I'll wait a while longer before giving any hints I think.

I hope I did this the right way. It is more of a clue to the name than the person... Good luck to you!

P.S. OK, now you know it's a person. It just slipped me

Rune Son of Bjarne · 10-29-2005, 05:48 PM

Is it Gimli (elf friend)?
he might have taken the straight road with Legolas.

Gothmog · 10-29-2005, 05:55 PM

Sorry, not Gimli either... As I said it's all about the name. And very cryptic

Is this to far-fetched I wonder. Well, hint's coming up on monday if nobody gets it before that.

Gothmog · 10-31-2005, 10:09 AM

Obviously this wasn't a good question. Well, here's a hint as promised. This was my original version (not posted):

Quote:

A long way for the french friend is this clue

And if that's not good enough, I'll have to find some more clues... But as I said, it's a clue to the name of the person, not the person itself.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-31-2005, 10:59 AM

A long way = far
french friend = ami (if my very rusty French serves me correctly)

Is it Faramir?

Gothmog · 10-31-2005, 11:03 AM

Brilliant guessing and yes, that is most correct. I'll try to do a better one next time, was in a bit of a hurry...sorry.

The thread is all yours, SpM!

Gothmog · 11-07-2005, 09:35 AM

A small BUMP! to SpM. I'm looking forward to something new to figure out! I'd like to keep this confusing thread alive!

Morsul the Dark · 11-19-2005, 11:07 AM

Uh 10 day rule i guess.....

Jaws that decieve and make leprecans dance

this is pretty simple but its a fun clue to say

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 09:22 AM

does no one have any ideas or does no one care? if its the first tell me ill give a clue

Gothmog · 11-22-2005, 10:02 AM

I've given it some thought, but have no idea. But on the other hand, I'm not too good at these. Wild guessing isn't usually my way to tackle a problem like this.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 12:26 PM

What is leprecans ?¨

I will guess allthough I dont understand that word.

Saruman ?

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Wild guessing isn't usually my way to tackle a problem like this

should have tried it Rhune got it

Jaws: jaws is a shark sharki

leprecaNS ARE LITTLE IRISH GUYS THAT LOVE GOLD AND RAINBOWS(SARUMAN OF MANY COLORS) AND DECIEVE IS THE STRAIGHT CLUE GO AHEAD

oops hit caps lock but too lazy to retype it in lowercase

Rhune go ahead

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 03:24 PM

This might be difficult.

an explorers home on the sea

09-15-2005, 08:46 AM	#681
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	actually giant is a straight translation...and Im reffering to roadrunner as squatter pointed out not the rocks __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-15-2005, 09:09 AM	#682
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Quickbeam? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

09-15-2005, 09:15 AM	#683
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	yay you can go __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-16-2005, 11:13 AM	#685
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Actually, it fits quite well, since it's a "ring" of mountains, a very "earthly" ring. __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

09-16-2005, 11:31 AM	#686
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Hmmm - but what about "unsuitable"? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

09-20-2005, 12:32 PM	#687
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	actually is there perhaps another name for that? I mean maybe its "unsuitable for you to have that particular answer i mean...it could be that but another name for it? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-21-2005, 06:10 AM	#688
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Echoriath? There's some impressive thinking going on there. Unfortunately it's leading in entirely the wrong direction. I'll lend a hand by telling you that 'choral piece' doesn't refer to a portion of the word 'choral', and that 'echoriath' isn't the answer. Turambar's suggestions regarding 'worldly' and 'jewellery' are on the money, though. 'Unsuitable' carries on the jewellery metaphor, but the answer I'm looking for certainly wasn't welcome. I'm looking for an obscure alternative description for something ubiquitous in the legendarium. As I said earlier, the answer is quite close to Home. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-21-2005, 12:34 PM	#689
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	You mean we need to have read HoME? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-21-2005, 12:37 PM	#690
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	The fact that it's obscure makes me feel better. "Ubiquitous in the Legendarium" would make a good name for a band. EDIT: I think that "choral piece" may be the straight clue. A choral piece is a song or lay. I don't know any obscure alternative names, other than ann-thennath, which refers to a particular type of song. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 09-21-2005 at 12:41 PM.

09-21-2005, 03:10 PM	#693
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	How about Ring of Doom or Mahanaxar? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

09-22-2005, 04:07 AM	#694
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	We have a winner The Phantom has extended his dominion by getting the right answer. Worldly jewellery: all of Middle-earth was Morgoth's ring. Unsuitable for choral piece: the marring of Arda implicit in making it into Morgoth's ring was unsuitable for the choral piece. Close to home: Morgoth's Ring is the title of HoME X. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 09-22-2005 at 04:10 AM. Reason: Style

09-22-2005, 12:14 PM	#695
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Here's one that probably won't take as long to solve- Sports Illustrated, The Foremost in League Coverage: Massachusetts rivulet and charged particle destroys team unity in Valinor. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

09-23-2005, 09:23 AM	#696
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Silmarillion? Sports Illustrated = SI The Foremost in League Coverage = L Massachusetts = Ma rivulet = Rill charged particle = Ion The Silmarillion concerns the destruction of "team unity in Valinor". __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-23-2005, 09:47 AM	#697
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	With those reasoning skills surely you could solve one of the remaining Password clues __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

09-23-2005, 11:04 AM	#698
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Perfect, Sauce. Your turn. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

09-28-2005, 11:27 PM	#699
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Either SPM is busy working on an absurdly difficult clue, or he is drawing a blank and is waiting for the ten day rule to save him. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

09-29-2005, 02:41 AM	#700
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Neither. I forgot that it was my turn ... In an effort to attract fresh blood to this thread, here's an absurdly easy one: Swift ray is faster than most. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-25-2005, 08:33 AM	#701
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	SPM you're talking to us welll especially me since when have i got these right? if its "absurdly easy" Ill go with the obvious choice: Shadowfax __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

10-25-2005, 08:58 AM	#702
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	I'd say Quickbeam. Quick=faster than most, Beam= ray. And if I'm supposed to guess anything right, it can't get harder than this I've red a few early clues here, and I'm truly impressed by you folks. __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

10-25-2005, 09:10 AM	#703
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Gosh, I had forgotten about this one ... Sorry Morsul, it's not Shadowfax, although that's a good guess. In fact, Gothmog is correct with Quickbeam. Well done, Gothmog. The thread's all yours. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-25-2005, 09:14 AM	#704
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	good job gothmog that actually was fairly i thought it was a horse though __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

10-25-2005, 09:56 AM	#705
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Thank you Morsul! Oh your supposed to come up with one of these now? Whoa, that's not easy. I've constructed one, but I don't know if it is too simple or impossible to guess... Well, I trust SpM, phantom & Co could figure out anything so here i go: A long way for the friend is this clue Remember this is my first time... __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

10-29-2005, 12:18 PM	#706
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	a long way for the friend the friend is sam so he came a long way to mordor? mordor? that doesnt sound right at all __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

10-29-2005, 02:06 PM	#707
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	mellon? Elvish for friend that was the clue to getting into Moria? But that doesn't explain the long way.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

10-29-2005, 05:13 PM	#708
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Good guesses but no. Mithalwen is on the right track...sort of. This might be harder than I expected now when I think about it. I wanted something challenging for the quiz-pros I've seen in action here. I'll wait a while longer before giving any hints I think. I hope I did this the right way. It is more of a clue to the name than the person... Good luck to you! P.S. OK, now you know it's a person. It just slipped me __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

10-29-2005, 05:55 PM	#710
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Sorry, not Gimli either... As I said it's all about the name. And very cryptic Is this to far-fetched I wonder. Well, hint's coming up on monday if nobody gets it before that. __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

10-31-2005, 10:59 AM	#712
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	A long way = far french friend = ami (if my very rusty French serves me correctly) Is it Faramir? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-31-2005, 11:03 AM	#713
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Brilliant guessing and yes, that is most correct. I'll try to do a better one next time, was in a bit of a hurry...sorry. The thread is all yours, SpM! __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

11-07-2005, 09:35 AM	#714
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	A small BUMP! to SpM. I'm looking forward to something new to figure out! I'd like to keep this confusing thread alive! __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

11-19-2005, 11:07 AM	#715
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Uh 10 day rule i guess..... Jaws that decieve and make leprecans dance this is pretty simple but its a fun clue to say __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 09:22 AM	#716
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	does no one have any ideas or does no one care? if its the first tell me ill give a clue __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 10:02 AM	#717
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	I've given it some thought, but have no idea. But on the other hand, I'm not too good at these. Wild guessing isn't usually my way to tackle a problem like this. __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...