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Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:38 PM

Okay, seriously. Now depending how many Wolves we have - which I would assume would be one or two - we anyway should make sure we get the voting right, I mean, if we get the voting wrong, it doesn't really matter.

If Nerwen is a Wolf and trying to go all-out with some scheme, I totally am not going to let that happen on my watch.

Nerwen · 07-19-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

Some more thoughts....

If Boro is innocent that sudden bandwagon against him is troublesome, and I'd want to take a closer look Lalaith and Eomer who have pretty flown under my radar. If he turns out to be guilty however, I would say both of them look pretty innocentish. I mean, why set up a last minute lynch for a wolfish Boro when there were other lynch candidates to consider?

I don't think Legate's vote yesterDay tells us as much since he was next in line on the lynching block and his vote could have been made out of self-preservation. He did vote for Boro on all other Days, so Boro's guilt might make him look a bit better. Hounding on a fellow wolf throughout the entire game would be quite the risk, though not impossible. His opinions are still pretty non-committal, so without knowing Boro's identity, my feelings about him haven't really changed.

When Nerwen suspects someone, she is quite aggressive about it. I don't know, perhaps that is just her playing style. But I don't like how she is manipulating my past posts. When doing a post-by-post analysis of someone, it would be better if you used actual quotes or links rather than rephrasing what's been said.

Fair enough, but I'm doing this on a mobile device. I can only assure you that I have not been intentionally manipulating your posts. You're an enigma I'm trying to puzzle out.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Lal, the GW could have informed gifted Nerwen about known innocents.

Well if that isn't the same kind of thing tho. I mean the replies are supposed to be roleplayed, they are conveyed. One would assume them to be filtered, otherwise it would not make much sense to have that rule in the first place.

Okay. It's basically about deciding. Everything now becomes sort of clearly black-or-white, and given all the previous evidence, I don't really trust Nerwen.

EDIT: x-ed with Nerwen

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:41 PM

The only thing keeping me back on this is Nerwen's timezone, which can explain why this is happening now.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:42 PM

And anyway since I have two votes, it doesn't really matter. Because if I get lynched, then I *know* we are losing an innocent. Okay. So.

EDIT: x-ed with Eomer

Shastanis Althreduin · 07-19-2017, 05:43 PM

I'm beginning to wonder about Lal now. I don't think we should split the vote today, but her insistence on wanting to vote Eonwe is weird to me.

satansaloser2005 · 07-19-2017, 05:43 PM

AT LAST! THE LOAD IS COMPLETE AGAIN.

I tried to post a few times throughout the day, but the wireless at work was being fickle and it appears it didn't work. Give me a few minutes (if that) to catch up properly.

As an aside, my vote from yesterDay keeps getting left out of the vote tallies.

EDIT: Disregard the last, as it was fixed and I didn't notice.

Nerwen · 07-19-2017, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Lal, the GW could have informed gifted Nerwen about known innocents.

Bingo.

Unfortunately I don't know Legate's role- I have had some suspicion of him, but mainly I'm voting him mainly because he's had one vote and isn't Eonwe.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:43 PM

If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her?

Lalaith · 07-19-2017, 05:44 PM

I had assumed from reading the rules that the GW was only allowed to discuss strategy with Gifteds. I thought no naming of names was allowed. I may well have assumed wrong. Kuru please advise?

Nerwen · 07-19-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I'm beginning to wonder about Lal now. I don't think we should split the vote today, but her insistence on wanting to vote Eonwe is weird to me.

Yes. I've tended to trust her, but as you say it's getting a bit weird.

Edit: x'd since my last.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:45 PM

It is in any case obvious that either Nerwen is now protecting Eonwe, or I don't know what. Eonwe, what do you have to say about all this, by the way?

EDIT: x-ing with everyone

Lalaith · 07-19-2017, 05:47 PM

I'm not being weird, I'm being tired.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:48 PM

I'm going for best of both worlds here; don't vote Eonwe, don't vote Nerwen. If she's telling the truth, or lying, there's another 2 wolves out there.

satansaloser2005 · 07-19-2017, 05:48 PM

My mental light bulb seems to have a short. Why is Nerwen suddenly such a topic of murderous conversation? This is madness, yes, but an evil Nerwen would have no reason to draw such attention to herself at this moment.

With Nog gone, I'm strongly leaning toward Legate being my top suspect, but look for that to possibly change? We'll see. I'm still catching up and trying to go back and piece some things together. I'm really quite bitter my posts kept getting eaten today. *grump*

x'd with a host

Nerwen · 07-19-2017, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

I had assumed from reading the rules that the GW was only allowed to discuss strategy with Gifteds. I thought no naming of names was allowed. I may well have assumed wrong. Kuru please advise?

You assumed wrong. The GW can't identify gifteds to each other, but can give other information, including "x is innocent".

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her?

Not that on top of everything.

Ok. I want to hear from Eönwë what he has to say for himself.

Then - heck. I could vote for Nerwen. Or I could vote for Eönwë, but I want to hear from him first, because if Nerwen is pulling some super-complicated scheme and dragging innocent Eönwë into something...

But really, this is getting so muddled up that I could just vote also Eönwë because it is anyway possible he is a Wolf as well. I mean objectively he was even more suspicious than her. So maybe it is EW Nerwen trying to save a Wolf of hers?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

My mental light bulb seems to have a short. Why is Nerwen suddenly such a topic of murderous conversation? This is madness, yes, but an evil Nerwen would have no reason to draw such attention to herself at this moment.

Unless she was an EW protecting a Wolf? Or a Wolf anyway; if the WWs are close to win, it doesn't really matter there.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:51 PM

2 votes for Legate, and Sally wants to add to that.

Kuruharan · 07-19-2017, 05:52 PM

Same rule as before.

Votes after my deadline post will not count.

Eönwë · 07-19-2017, 05:52 PM

Ok, it looks like we're heading to true endgame. In which case, I see no reason to not believe Nerwen unless someone else claims otherwise.

While I've suspected Brinniel for a while (and maybe my judgement was clouded because she's suspected me so heavily), she's seemed pretty genuine toDay, so I'm not inclined to vote her. I'm also more suspicious of others (see below), and I don't particularly see any evidence of her being in a wolf-pack with them.

Shasta is eternally a mystery to me, but toDay he seems better than he has so far. I'm willing to accept that his submarineishness so far has been due to RL reasons as he claims, and he hasn't done anything particularly suspicious so far, so he gets a pass from me for toDay

So, basically, it's down to Legate, Eomer, Sally and Lalaith.

Nerwen · 07-19-2017, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

2 votes for Legate, and Sally wants to add to that.

And I don't know why, because I don't know what either of them are.

Brinniel · 07-19-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her?

That's a possibility.

Or a Nerwolf has decided to make a risky move and out herself as gifted. And hoping we'd give her benefit of the doubt, direct the lynch away from the baddies and toward an innocent. If someone is killed toNight, or a wolf turned, that would end the game as well.

Eönwë · 07-19-2017, 05:53 PM

Sally, while mostly absent, hasn't done anything particularly eyebrow-raising so for, so, since this might literally be the last Day, I'm going to ignore her for now.

satansaloser2005 · 07-19-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Unless she was an EW protecting a Wolf? Or a Wolf anyway; if the WWs are close to win, it doesn't really matter there.

That's a fair point, but it doesn't seem very Nerwen to me.

I really feel like the Nerwen shenanigans are being blown out of proportion to detract from the actual baddies.

Eönwë · 07-19-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I really feel like the Nerwen shenanigans are being blown out of proportion to detract from the actual baddies.

Agreed. I'm inclined to believe her.

My bet is that at least 2 of Legate, Lalaith, and Eomer are evil.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:55 PM

Shasta has been gung ho for Legate for days, and Nerwen has jumped on that today. Those are the 2 votes so far.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:56 PM

Ok, no way. If I die, we are losing an innocent. So now I am totally about self-preservation.

Is there anyone most people would agree on?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:56 PM

Well Nerwen, I really hope you're a good guy, because it looks like you have the support.

satansaloser2005 · 07-19-2017, 05:56 PM

I've been at least mildly consistent in my suspicion of Steve, so putting aside the stuff with him and Nerwen from today, I would happily vote for him, because he had plenty of suspicion his way yesterday and then all of a sudden today things have gone nuts.

Mind, this doesn't mean Legate is off the hook. I'd be willing to bet they're both evil.

Eönwë · 07-19-2017, 05:56 PM

Worryingly, the Dead Thread Empowerment is really going to make a difference toDay.

Lalaith · 07-19-2017, 05:56 PM

What is probably going to happen is that Legate will be lynched. I'm too tired to make proper sense of this but I think the Nerwen may be lying so I would like to open up the option for an alternative.
++eonwe

Shastanis Althreduin · 07-19-2017, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Shasta has been gung ho for Legate for days, and Nerwen has jumped on that today. Those are the 2 votes so far.

And no one else has jumped on. That ought to tell you something.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:58 PM

Okay, let's hope for the best.

++Eonwe

So I hope we'll be here still toMorrow.

Eönwë · 07-19-2017, 05:58 PM

Well, I'd better not split the vote.

++Legate

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-19-2017, 05:58 PM

++shasta

Legate of Amon Lanc · 07-19-2017, 05:58 PM

Guh.

Eönwë · 07-19-2017, 05:59 PM

Also, I may be mistaken, but for future reference (assuming there is a toMorrow), I seem to remember Nog suggesting a possible Legate+Eomer wolf-team.

satansaloser2005 · 07-19-2017, 05:59 PM

I'll assist Lal in hedging our bets. I feel pretty comfortable with either candidate, but Steve has rung alarm bells for a while longer, so best to go with my initial instincts.

++Steve

x'd since Shasta's #713

Shastanis Althreduin · 07-19-2017, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

++shasta

07-19-2017, 05:38 PM	#681
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, seriously. Now depending how many Wolves we have - which I would assume would be one or two - we anyway should make sure we get the voting right, I mean, if we get the voting wrong, it doesn't really matter. If Nerwen is a Wolf and trying to go all-out with some scheme, I totally am not going to let that happen on my watch. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-19-2017, 05:41 PM	#684
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	The only thing keeping me back on this is Nerwen's timezone, which can explain why this is happening now. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:42 PM	#685
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	And anyway since I have two votes, it doesn't really matter. Because if I get lynched, then I know we are losing an innocent. Okay. So. EDIT: x-ed with Eomer __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-19-2017, 05:43 PM	#686
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	I'm beginning to wonder about Lal now. I don't think we should split the vote today, but her insistence on wanting to vote Eonwe is weird to me. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

07-19-2017, 05:43 PM	#687
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	AT LAST! THE LOAD IS COMPLETE AGAIN. I tried to post a few times throughout the day, but the wireless at work was being fickle and it appears it didn't work. Give me a few minutes (if that) to catch up properly. As an aside, my vote from yesterDay keeps getting left out of the vote tallies. EDIT: Disregard the last, as it was fixed and I didn't notice. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

07-19-2017, 05:43 PM	#689
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:44 PM	#690
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I had assumed from reading the rules that the GW was only allowed to discuss strategy with Gifteds. I thought no naming of names was allowed. I may well have assumed wrong. Kuru please advise? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-19-2017, 05:45 PM	#692
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	It is in any case obvious that either Nerwen is now protecting Eonwe, or I don't know what. Eonwe, what do you have to say about all this, by the way? EDIT: x-ing with everyone __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-19-2017, 05:47 PM	#693
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	I'm not being weird, I'm being tired. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-19-2017, 05:48 PM	#694
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I'm going for best of both worlds here; don't vote Eonwe, don't vote Nerwen. If she's telling the truth, or lying, there's another 2 wolves out there. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:48 PM	#695
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	My mental light bulb seems to have a short. Why is Nerwen suddenly such a topic of murderous conversation? This is madness, yes, but an evil Nerwen would have no reason to draw such attention to herself at this moment. With Nog gone, I'm strongly leaning toward Legate being my top suspect, but look for that to possibly change? We'll see. I'm still catching up and trying to go back and piece some things together. I'm really quite bitter my posts kept getting eaten today. grump x'd with a host __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

07-19-2017, 05:51 PM	#699
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	2 votes for Legate, and Sally wants to add to that. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:52 PM	#700
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Same rule as before. Votes after my deadline post will not count. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

07-19-2017, 05:52 PM	#701
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Ok, it looks like we're heading to true endgame. In which case, I see no reason to not believe Nerwen unless someone else claims otherwise. While I've suspected Brinniel for a while (and maybe my judgement was clouded because she's suspected me so heavily), she's seemed pretty genuine toDay, so I'm not inclined to vote her. I'm also more suspicious of others (see below), and I don't particularly see any evidence of her being in a wolf-pack with them. Shasta is eternally a mystery to me, but toDay he seems better than he has so far. I'm willing to accept that his submarineishness so far has been due to RL reasons as he claims, and he hasn't done anything particularly suspicious so far, so he gets a pass from me for toDay So, basically, it's down to Legate, Eomer, Sally and Lalaith. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-19-2017, 05:53 PM	#704
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Sally, while mostly absent, hasn't done anything particularly eyebrow-raising so for, so, since this might literally be the last Day, I'm going to ignore her for now. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-19-2017, 05:55 PM	#707
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Shasta has been gung ho for Legate for days, and Nerwen has jumped on that today. Those are the 2 votes so far. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:56 PM	#708
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Ok, no way. If I die, we are losing an innocent. So now I am totally about self-preservation. Is there anyone most people would agree on? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-19-2017, 05:56 PM	#709
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Well Nerwen, I really hope you're a good guy, because it looks like you have the support. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:56 PM	#710
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I've been at least mildly consistent in my suspicion of Steve, so putting aside the stuff with him and Nerwen from today, I would happily vote for him, because he had plenty of suspicion his way yesterday and then all of a sudden today things have gone nuts. Mind, this doesn't mean Legate is off the hook. I'd be willing to bet they're both evil. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

07-19-2017, 05:56 PM	#711
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Worryingly, the Dead Thread Empowerment is really going to make a difference toDay. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-19-2017, 05:56 PM	#712
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	What is probably going to happen is that Legate will be lynched. I'm too tired to make proper sense of this but I think the Nerwen may be lying so I would like to open up the option for an alternative. ++eonwe __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

07-19-2017, 05:58 PM	#714
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, let's hope for the best. ++Eonwe So I hope we'll be here still toMorrow. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-19-2017, 05:58 PM	#715
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Well, I'd better not split the vote. ++Legate __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-19-2017, 05:58 PM	#716
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	++shasta __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-19-2017, 05:58 PM	#717
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Guh. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

07-19-2017, 05:59 PM	#718
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Also, I may be mistaken, but for future reference (assuming there is a toMorrow), I seem to remember Nog suggesting a possible Legate+Eomer wolf-team. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-19-2017, 05:59 PM	#719
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I'll assist Lal in hedging our bets. I feel pretty comfortable with either candidate, but Steve has rung alarm bells for a while longer, so best to go with my initial instincts. ++Steve x'd since Shasta's #713 __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.