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Old 01-28-2009, 07:13 PM   #681
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Some final thoughts...

Sally is guilty, Rune is innocent, and Lommy is the cobbler, I know that much. Mirandir seems more innocent after her defenses. I'm not so sure about Lari. Beregond just seems like an easily manipulated newbie. Legate is misguided, but probably innocent. Rikae should be watched closely, even though I'm not sure a wraith would be so bold. Are you really so sure Mac is innocent? I'd take a second look at him. Menel's a bit fishy. I'm least trusting of Aganzir and Nerwen, particularly for their bandwagoning toDay. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them are wraiths.

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Suspicious
Nerwen
Aganzir


Somewhat Suspicious
Rikae
Menel


Not Sure
Lari
Greenie
Mac


Innocentish
Mirandir
Beregond


Innocent
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:15 PM   #682
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You mean that bandwagon I started earlier toDay?
You're right, I thought Legate started it, but I was mistaken.

You were so sure Fea was evil, but you were wrong. How are you so sure that you're not wrong this time?
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:33 PM   #683
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Seer:
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Innocent
Larry
Barrigownd
Mehn-L
Nurwhen
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Ruin

Cobbleranger
Davende or Cailomer

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:34 PM   #684
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Lommy is the seer, Brinniel and Sally are wraiths. This leaves:

Lari
Mirandir
Legate
Rikae
Aganzir
Beregond
Nerwen
Rune
Menel
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One wraith, one Frodo (who probably cannot yet be distinguished). I'll try to come up with a more or less informed opinion on each before deadline.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:51 PM   #685
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Let's start with the easy ones.

Menel has trouble following the game, I think. I don't think he's a wraith - that would have shown in some way. He could very well be Ferny.

Rikae isn't technically an easy case, but I have no hope of figuring her out anyway. The amount of silliness and lack of sharpness points towards innocence, though.

I don't need to take a second look at Beregond: he's innocent. If he isn't he'd be one of the slickest newbie wolves I've ever seen.
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:33 PM   #686
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1420! I don't *hic* care which of you ish the real *hic* innkeeper, jusht get another beer!

I'll let my Sally vote stand for now, as I can be reasonably sure she's a wraith. This seer business should clear itself up soon enough when we see who the wolves try to kill.

The only person here who really ought to worry about who is the real Seer at this point is the Ranger, whose task it will be to protect her tonight. The ranger should find out who is actually the seer by dawn tomorrow if she survives, and if she dies we'll know who to lynch. Of course, the wraiths could choose not to kill the Seer, but that probably wouldn't put them in a good position.
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:46 PM   #687
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While I do think that sally is definitely a wraith (one of the few things both "seers" agree on), I agree with whoever said it earlier that it makes more sense for us to lynch Brinn. Her death will leave us with more information. So for now, I'll vote for her but reserve the ability to retract later if my over-tired brain comes up with something different or better justification.

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Old 01-28-2009, 08:48 PM   #688
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Any particular reason why, my dear?
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You do of course realize that Brinn never said she dreamed me as a wraith. She said she dreamed me and I am a wraith. Big difference.


*snickers as she reads the bit about only having one retraction per day*



Just putting that possibility out there.
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Erm, sorry for being thick, but what difference?
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*scratches head* Both Seer-claimants say Sally is a wraith. Sally says Sally is a wraith... and you're only "reasonably" sure?

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This seer business should clear itself up soon enough when we see who the wolves try to kill.

The only person here who really ought to worry about who is the real Seer at this point is the Ranger, whose task it will be to protect her tonight. The ranger should find out who is actually the seer by dawn tomorrow if she survives, and if she dies we'll know who to lynch. Of course, the wraiths could choose not to kill the Seer, but that probably wouldn't put them in a good position.
And if the Ranger chooses the wrong "Seer" to protect?
EDIT: X'd with Sally and Beregond.
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You do of course realize that Brinn never said she dreamed me as a wraith. She said she dreamed me and I am a wraith. Big difference.
But Lommy did dream of you as a wraith (I think; I don't really have the time or energy to go sifting through a million back posts to find it) and she's the one I'm inclined to believe.

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Erm, sorry for being thick, but what difference?
None... but I think she's implying she's actually Ferny and this was all a Fiendish Plot to lynch Brinniel. Or something.

Except, why would she say that now if it were true?
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Except, why would she say that now if it were true?
Because she thinks enough of you have already retracted once that I'm doomed to die whether you change your mind about me or not. That might be so...though the voting might actually be closer than she thinks.

I don't blame her for gloating though. The plan to get me lynched obviously worked...toDay's events went brilliantly for the wraiths. They have a reason to celebrate. :/
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Lily:

In #247 she lists Brinn as innocent (though she uses maybe a few too many words to state it). Her opinion of Sally ("there was something but I can't find it anymore") sounds genuine. YesterDay she has no read on Sally and defends Brinn. She lacks suspects yet nobody votes her for that, how unfair.

None of the other opinions she expressed really point toward her being evil. Defending Brinn, being undecided about Sally, and lacking other suspects - I surely sympathise with that.

Also, Brinn pursues her a bit, in a way that doesn't appear wraith-on-wraith-ish.

I have no reason to suspect her.


Nerwen:

If she's evil, then her Day1-vote must annoy her in hindsight: she could have lynched the seer (both!)! Abstains from voting on Day2. Analyses the end of Day2 and reaches softer conclusions than I did. She's quite determinedly after Fea, a bit in Legate and Rikae's smoke screen. She consider voting me and short before the deadline gets on Sally's trail.

She's constrained by time. What she says does not point towards evil. She's probably innocent, but Nerwen is a smart one, so you never really know.


Lari:

#195 looks suspicious to me. Sure, it's Day1 and nobody knows anything yet, but the reasons she gives for her considerations are either joking or weak. Sally she has no idea about and Brinn she forgets, which probably speaks against her guilt.

#373: both Sally and Brinn are innocent to her. Afterwards she gets entangled into the Durelin-lynch, and suspiciously so, even though the "save Fea" thing doesn't look so bad anymore.

YesterDay she flip-flops from wanting to lynch Fea to defending her (and everything in between) all the time. Tries to deflect the Fea-save-suspicions on Rune. She gets a bit tangled up in her own arguments.

ToDay she hasn't yet committed to either side.

Lari's still the most suspicious thing I have.


I'll try to have another look at others from my list, but I'm not sure whether I'll make it. Maybe the wraiths will be merciful.
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Nah, I will RL-regret it if I stay up late today...

For completeness sake, my opinions on

Mirandir: probably innocent
Legate: probably innocent
Aganzir: I really don't know
Rune: looks maybe too evil to really be evil

I'm not sure whether anybody has done it yet, but we need to put ourselves into the wraiths' position and try to guess who would be good or bad kills for them last night, since I doubt Frodo has left any obvious hints.

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++Sally

She seems like a safe bet, and well, there are four wraiths/wolves at the moment.

And Mac, I know, but I kept reading Fea's posts, and I know her. She usually owns up to her guilt. And I looked perfectly innocent to everyone in last game. But before you think I'm really guilty, I suggest you take a better look at my posts.
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Because she thinks enough of you have already retracted once that I'm doomed to die whether you change your mind about me or not. That might be so...though the voting might actually be closer than she thinks.
You'd think she'd have checked first, wouldn't you?

All right. I have hesitated about retracting, mainly because I have rather lost faith in my own judgement after yesterDay, but this clinches it for me: I think Sally is simply trying to get us to lynch her instead of Brinn.

--Sally

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And if by any chance we're wrong and Lommy is evil and Brinn is the real Seer... well, she was probably done for anyway.

EDIT: X'd with Lari.
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So far the vote count seems to be:

Brinn: 8
Sally: 5




I GET TO LIVE! (Well, at least for now. ) My fellow baddies are in their holes rejoicing at our good fortune. That is all.
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Bah, well, as long as I'm talking about it anyway... jeez, he could have ignored my hints because he *didn't* send his own name to the wraiths after all. In fact, I can think of a reason why he wouldn't... oh, I'm so stupid... *headdesk*
I didn't see anything. Nope, not me. You said nothing. This was an empty post, and not at all a completely obvious outing of yourself as Ferny. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot. Blast, it's so hard to find good help these days....



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What else could she do? Claim her innocent and she'd fall with her anyway? The only way Sally would not have been doomed is if she had made a third "reveal". (I'd have loved that. )

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*yawns*

You all are so boring and predictable. Like mindless cattle, believing the first claim you hear. Never mind, I don't really care anymore...why waste my time with a close-minded village?

In other news, did anyone watch LOST tonight? It was awesome.
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I didn't see anything. Nope, not me. You said nothing. This was an empty post, and not at all a completely obvious outing of yourself as Ferny. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot. Blast, it's so hard to find good help these days....
Oh, you're back to being a wraith, are you, Sally?
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ToDay, certainly. Glad you're catching on.
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*yawns*

You all are so boring and predictable. Like mindless cattle, believing the first claim you hear. Never mind, I don't really care anymore...why waste my time with a close-minded village?

In other news, did anyone watch LOST tonight? It was awesome.
*yawns*

Frankly, I think the forces of darkness could be putting on a better show.

Remember Mormegil and Nogrod in Fea's game? Now that was awesome.

EDIT: X'd with Sally.
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But really guys, do you always have to let the seer do all the work for you? You blindly lynched innocents and couldn't manage to lynch a single wraith until the seer revealed. Lucky for you. But without a seer to do your dirty work, you are all just hopeless. Let's just see how well you do once she is dead.
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*yawns*

Frankly, I think the forces of darkness could be putting on a better show.

Remember Mormegil and Nogrod in Fea's game? Now that was awesome.
You want a show? Oh, now you're just asking for it!


EDIT: x'd with Brinn. *runs off to plot* See, you should have killed me!
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Just wait for Sally's final act. She has a whole extra Day and I know she'll do me proud.
Let it be known that Brinniel has just confessed.

Anyone else around, apart from these two?
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:52 PM   #709
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Brinn's Swan....Erm....Wraith Song

Remember when the seer revealed and I got on my knees
And begged you not to vote for me because I'd go berserk?? Well....
You retracted anyhow and then the Day got worse and worse and now you see
I've gone completely out of my mind....And....

They're coming to take me away, haha!
They're coming to take me away, hoho, hehe, haha
To the Barrow Downs, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
And they're coming to take me away, haha!!!!!

You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said
that getting lynched would make me flip my lid....RIGHT???
I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed
And lynched and bandwaggoned on, but now you know I'm utterly dead....And....

They're coming to take me away, haha!
They're coming to take me away, hoho, hehe, haha.
To the Barrow Downs, with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And cunning Finns who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, haha!!!

I faked a reveal, I lynched a Fea, and this is how you pay me back
for all my kind unselfish loving deeds. Huh??
Well you just wait, they'll find you yet and when they do
They'll put you in the Tol-in-Gaurhoth Grimoire, you nasty seer!!! And....

They're coming to take me away, haha!
They're coming to take me away, hoho, hehe, haha.
To the Barrow Downs, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
And they're coming to take me away, haha!!!

To the Barrow Downs, with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And Bombadil who sits and smiles and twiddles his thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, haha!!!
To the Barrow Downs, where life is beautiful all the time....
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:55 PM   #710
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On a more serious note, the reason I'm exposing myself now is because I want to let you know in advance that my outburst on Day 1 wasn't any sort of evil scheme of mine. I was honestly offended by some comments and spun a bit out of control...it has absolutely nothing to do with my role or the game itself, and I felt really bad about it afterwards. I would really hate to be lynched having you guys think I was unsporty.

Now that that's out of the way, I don't understand why you all think I make such a brilliant wolf. I'm really quite crappy at it...if you don't believe me, take a look at my past games. The only one I've played exceptionally well was Fea's and a lot of that was dumb luck. But otherwise, I'm really horrible, no joke! I never make the right kill and my ploys never work. So stop calling me a scary baddie or whatever, because if you think that, you're just not trying hard enough. I've never been right about a gifted until this game...I actually wanted to kill Lommy on Night 2 and Sally said no. I'm not that stupid; I was almost positive she was the seer but I wasn't going to risk the chance she may be protected or I might be wrong, and since killing her would incriminate me and Sally, why not brave it out? And it was a good choice since instead we found our Frodo. I actually have to give my fellow credit for the kill choice. I didn't want to kill Greenie, but they insisted for two Nights, so I gave in. Good thing I did.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:56 PM   #711
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Oh, c'mon Nerwen, you know you want to confess too. It's fun.
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Come to the dark side, Nerwen. We have cookies. (And alcohol, seeing as you are of proper age and all.)


And Brinn I believe you x'd with a bit of something silly and special-made for you.
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Old 01-28-2009, 11:59 PM   #713
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Note that Rikae's controlled two lynches now. Just because she was right this time doesn't mean she's innocent.

Oh btw, you might want another look at Mac. I know the seer dreamt him innocent and all, but...
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“I'm the seer!” Lommy cried. “I've been masquerading as a woman to hide myself from the wraiths. I'm Butterbur.”

“I'm Butterbur.” Brinn shouted back. “And I've always preferred drag.”

“Wraith!” Lommy pointed a finger at Brinn. “Bloody, filthy wraith!”

“Bill Ferny!” Brinn said. But the village had believed Lommy and not her. “You're all cattle, lemmings, sheep! Sheeple! This place is boring.” Brinn was slowly backing away from the crowd. “My companions will avenge me!” She sprinted away, heading right for her pie shop.

The village gave chase. But Brinn ran fast. She barreled through her front door, slammed it and locked it. Unfortunately she have run out of town rather than trapping herself in a building. Angered by the havoc Brinn had been allowed to cause over the past few nights the villages lit torches and surrounded the shop.

A brick came flying through the window. “You better pay for that!” Brinn went to the broken window and shook her fist.

While the villagers had a clear shot a torch flew through the air and hit Brinn in the face. She screamed in pain and terror. Her human disguise melted off, revealing the nothingness beneath. Lommy rushed in, grabbed Brinn and threw her into her pie oven. The wraith shrieked and banged on the oven door. But no one was going to come to her rescue.

Brinn died and her shop was searched. The villagers uncovered her wraith cloak and sword. One down, three to go.

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Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
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Yay!
Another parody for you, at risk of crossing with the moddess.


"And now, let her die. For in lynching we depart from a world that is entirely everyone else's...."


Fare thee well, my faithful accomplice. I shall be joining you shortly. *hugs*
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Boy was that fun. I would've done it earlier, but I promised Sally I would do everything I can to get her lynched.

EDIT: X-ed with the moddess. Oops. At least I got the final word.

Btw, I love you Sally.
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Boy was that fun. I would've done it earlier, but I promised Sally I would do everything I can to get her lynched.
Missy, you were set on fire. Shhh.
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Lommy's time was up. She stayed awake anxiously for hours after Brinn's death. As night wore she began to wonder if maybe the ranger was watching over her. That had to be it. Dawn was fast approaching and Brinn's companions hadn't appeared.

Lommy sighed with relief. She'd live to see another day. However, as Lommy climbed into her bed the door to her home open. She didn't hear it because she was already asleep, dreaming pleasantly. The three remaining wraiths crept into Lommy's room. The innkeeper's disguise had come off and now Butterbur had to die.

~*~*~

Lommy was found in the morning with her eyes caught out and her skull cracked open. The wraiths had nailed her eyes to the wall. Her brain had been removed hastily and with no real care, bits of it scattered the floor. No one could locate the wayward brain. It couldn't have escaped during the attack.

The villagers searched the entire house. Finally they came across a pie sitting on the kitchen table. It was red and had an unpleasant oder emitting from it. The wraiths had put Lommy's brain into a pie as a means of exacting their revenge from Brinn's death.

The Prancing Pony had lost its innkeeper and the village had lost its seer.

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Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
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….emit eht lufituaeb si efil erehw ,snwoD worraB eht oT
!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er’yeht dnA
seot dna sbmuht sih selddiwt dna selims dna stis ohw lidabmoB dnA
sdrib gniprihc dna srewolf dna seert htiw ,snwoD worraB eht oT

!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er’yeht dnA
stoac etihw naelc rieht ni nem gnuoy ecin esoht ees ot yppah eb ll’I dnA
emit eht lla lufituaeb si efil erehw ,snwoD worraB eht oT
.ahah ,eheh ,ohoh ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT
!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT

....dnA !!!rees ytsan uoy ,eriomirG htohruaG-ni-loT eht ni uoy tup ll'yehT
od yeht nehw dna tey uoy dnif ll'yeht ,tiaw tsuj uoy lleW
??huH .sdeed gnivol hsiflesnu dnik ym lla rof
kcab em yap uoy who si siht dna ,eaF a dehcnyl I ,laever a dekaf I

!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er’yeht dnA
seot dna sbmuht rieht elddiwt dna elims dna tis ohw snniF gninnuc dnA
sdrib gniprihc dna srewolf dna seert htiw ,snwoD worraB eht oT
.ahah ,eheh ,ohoh ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT
!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT

....dnA....daed ylrettu m'I wonk uoy won tub ,no denoggawdnab dna dehcnyl dnA
dehgual uoy dehgual uoy ,hgual uoy draeh I ,dehgual uoy wonk I
???THGIR....dil ym pilf em ekam dluow dehcnyl gnitteg that
dias dah I nehw dehgual uoy ,dehgual uoy os dna ekoj a saw ti thguoht uoY

!!!!!!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yeht dnA
staoc etihw naelc rieht ni nem gnuoy ecin esoht ees ot yppah eb ll'I dnA
emit eht lla lufituaeb si efil erehw ,snwoD worraB eht oT
.ahah ,eheh ,ohoh ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT
!ahah ,yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT

….dnA….dnim ym fo tuo yletelpmoc enog ev’I
ees uoy won dna esrow dna esrow tog yaD eht neht dna wohyna detcarter uoY
….lleW ??kresreb og d’I esuaceb em rof etov ot ton uoy deggeb dnA
seenk ym no tog I dna delaever rees eht nehw rebmemeR


gnoS htiarW....mrE....nawS s'nnirB
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