Quotes in other languages - Page 18 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gwathagor · 01-29-2008, 07:52 AM

I forgot all about this. I've got all the words translated, but I haven't made them fit yet.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-29-2008, 08:07 AM

Well, until you post the correct answer along with where this quote comes from, everyone has the chance to claim the victory.

Aganzir · 02-05-2008, 11:16 AM

I don't know about some others, but I'd like a hint.

You could, for example, translate that dakryous there.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-05-2008, 11:43 AM

That's exactly the one I would like to keep hidden as long as possible.

Would you mind picking something else?

Well, I can tell you it's a noun. A plural noun. And it is the object of the sentence (of "ymeis", that it). That much has to suffice.

Guinevere · 02-05-2008, 05:53 PM

I guess it must be this:

Dakryous myriona ymeis ekcheeite; kai _____ peribalousin _______ kata ymas, kai ekbalousin ymas exo, ina mete echo tou odyrmou ymon metabesetai dia ton oron.

"Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains"

(Since I work in a medical profession I recognized "Dacryo" as refering to tears

)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-06-2008, 02:05 AM

Goood, good! Very good! Yes, that's what I thought - someone may know some words from elsewhere

Well done, Guinevere, your turn!

Guinevere · 02-07-2008, 03:41 PM

Thank you, Legate!

Btw, this was interesting, I didn't know what "Koine Greek" was, and so I looked it up . It's amazing how many languages you know!!

Unfortunately I am not able to bring something so exotic, and am lazy to boot, so it'll be plain German today. (If too easy, I'll bring up Swissgerman again next time

)

Quote:

"Nun, wenn du daran Freude hast," sagte ______, "so tust du mir leid. Es wird nur eine Freude in der Erinnerung sein."

Aganzir · 02-09-2008, 03:12 PM

Is the book Lotr or some other? I just can't remember where something like that was.

Guinevere · 02-09-2008, 03:52 PM

Its from LotR alright. ( from RotK to be precise; if that's any help to you

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Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-09-2008, 04:16 PM

garr that just confuses me even more. . .I really need to brush up my german.

Aganzir · 02-09-2008, 06:27 PM

Thanks, it did.

Quote:

"Well, if that is what you find pleasure in," said Frodo, "I pity you. It will be a pleasure of memory only, I fear."

There were a few passages where I thought it might be, and that was the second I checked. Well, somehow I missed that particular quote there, and had then no idea where to look for.

Guinevere · 02-10-2008, 04:20 PM

Yep, that's it, Aganzir.

Aganzir · 02-11-2008, 09:37 AM

Shall we have some Swedish, then?

Quote:

"Ni har blivit räddade från själva de farliga djupen," sade han. "Räddas man från drunkning, betyder förlusten av kläder intet."

Thinlómien · 02-11-2008, 09:52 AM

Quote:

But Tom shook his head, saying: "You've found yourselves again, out of the deep water. Clothes are but little, if you escape from drowning."

But if it's that, I must say that the translator has taken some liberties...

Aganzir · 02-11-2008, 09:56 AM

It's that, and don't look at me. I admit taking it from the Swedish translation instead of translating myself. *insert angelic smilie*

Thinlómien · 02-16-2008, 09:10 AM

Okay, some Finnish.

Quote:

Gimli pysähtyi ja kumartui maahan. "En kuule muuta kuin kasvien ja kivien öistä puhetta", hän sanoi. "Tule! Kiiruhtakaamme! Muut ovat poissa näkyvistä."

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-19-2008, 04:37 PM

After a long and hard work, and with a little help from a walking dictionary called Aganzir, I have it. I asked just for a few words, though, I think three or so (tule, muuta/muut and kuule). Otherwise, there were just confirmations whether my finds were correct (and mostly, they were not).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothlórien

Gimli halted and stooped to the ground. "I hear nothing but the night speech of plant and stone," he said. "Come! Let us hurry! The others are out of sight."

You can see the parts through which my thought process went, from:

Quote:

Gimli stabbed his axe into the tree. "This cart is not going anywhere," he said. "Come! Let us go! Others are fishing/eating sheep (not sure on this one) meanwhile."

Through more concrete:

Quote:

Gimli did something. "I don't hear other? else? something something." he said. "Come! Let us (go or something). Others something."

Thinlómien · 02-20-2008, 06:20 AM

The first quote is, of course, right but the second one made me laugh hysterically.

But anyway, it's your thread.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-22-2008, 06:32 AM

A quick parting shot...

Quote:

"Děkuji vám!" řekl Smíšek. "V tom případě bych prosil zpět svůj váček, který není váš a cestoval se mnou daleko. Zabalte si koření do vlastních hadrů."

I was some time since I posted something Czech, and I don't want to come up with anything complicated, so here you have it. I am away for a week, so plenty time for you to come up with something

HerenIstarion · 02-22-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

'Thank you!’ said Merry. ‘In that case I will have my pouch back, which is not yours and has journeyed far with me. Wrap the weed in a rag of your own.'

Merry to Saruman, concerning the matter of comparative worth of petty criminals

I'll be checking in and out for your confirmation today in case you aren't gone yet, otherwise I'll look back here in a week

Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-22-2008, 01:18 PM

Lucky you

Yes, that's right. You may continue. Now I can leave with mind completely clean of unfulfiled duties

HerenIstarion · 02-22-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Lucky you

clever me, rather

Russian, since I'm too lazy to trouble myself with something more obscure (and Georgian would be way too obscure I guess)

Quote:

'Ia ne poidu' - skazal *******, - vo vsiakom sluchae, poka vsia drujina ne budet protiv menia. Chto skajut Legolas i malenki narodec? Golos khranitelia kolcia, konechno, doljen bit uslishan?

Volo · 03-16-2008, 12:19 PM

Quote:

"I will not go," said Boromir; 'not unless the vote of the whole company is against me. What do Legolas and the little folk say? The Ring-bearer's voice surely should be heard? '

NOTE: Messages have a certain minimum length limit now? I don't like it, makes last minute WW voting complicated.

EDIT: Ah, looks like one can't post just a quote on its own. Ok, nothing then.

HerenIstarion · 03-16-2008, 12:40 PM

Limit was always there since we moved from Ezboard I beleive

As for the quote - right you are Volo

Volo · 03-16-2008, 12:48 PM

Ok, great!

Quote:

- Nu? - lagidno zapitav golos. - chomu vy porushete mij zatishok? Nevzhe, vy ne daste meni spokoju ni vden, ni vnoch? - U Tsomu toni vchuvavsja dokir mjakogo sertsja, nezasluzheno skrivdzhenogo.

EDIT: *sigh*, well, that's Ukrainian.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-16-2008, 02:20 PM

Am I allowed to answer?

Not that Ukrainian is that similar to Czech, but...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-17-2008, 01:25 PM

All right. Whatever. It's a lovely quote, and appropriate at this time, anyway

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Voice of Saruman

"Well?" it said now with gentle question. "Why must you disturb my rest? Will you give me no peace at all by night or day?" Its tone was that of a kindly heart aggrieved by injuries undeserved.

Volo · 03-17-2008, 01:32 PM

Sure, your turn.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-21-2008, 04:18 PM

Time for some koine Greek again...

Quote:

Hama sou hémeis poreusometha tés hodou agousés duseós, kai makrothen heurésomen tén chóran pou kardiai hémón amfoin anapausein dynóntai.

For those who can read it, a variant in original script...

Quote:

Aμα σου ημεις πορευσομεθα της οδου αγουσης δυσεως, και μακροθεν ευρησομεν την χωραν που καρδιαι ημων αμφοιν αναπαυσειν δυνωνται.

Have fun

Aganzir · 05-03-2008, 12:15 PM

What about a hint?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-03-2008, 01:25 PM

Oh my, now what was the original quote

*tries to decipher - oh, how good I wrote the Greek script there...*¨

Aaah yeees, I know now!

hémeis/hémon - a form of "we" or "us" (the second being "our")
hodou - road or way
chóra - land

And again, I will suggest you try to look for words which, or whose parts would seem familiar to you. Right now I see at least two, one of which is quite obvious, another has a root inside it which can be thought of... possibly.

Guinevere · 06-08-2008, 02:13 PM

I haven't forgotten this, I keep looking at it from time to time .
I found or guessed several words (those you gave I had already found) but others remain mysterious and the whole thing doesn't ring a bell.
(It took some time til I found that it has nothing to do with Háma!

)

Here's what I get until now:

Simultaniously (....) we carried of the road (....) setting of the sun and from afar found (....) land where heart... (....) both stop again (....)

Perhaps someone else can make sense of this...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-08-2008, 02:31 PM

It's actually very good and very close. I am sure someone could see the original quote in that.

Guinevere · 06-08-2008, 04:14 PM

Now you confirmed my guesses and I look at it again, it suddenly does ring a bell!!
Is it the end of the Ent & Entwife song?

Quote:

Together we will take the road that leads into the West
and far away will find a land where both our hearts may rest

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-08-2008, 04:20 PM

Definitely

Well done! The thread is yours.

Guinevere · 06-20-2008, 03:36 PM

Thank you, Legate!

Since Aganzir's German is too good I'll try Swiss-German dialect to make it more challenging.

"Ich bi sicher du häsch mir s'aller schwärste Züg gä. Ich ha Verbarme mit Schnägge, und allne wo ihri Hüser uf ihrem Rugge träged."

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-25-2008, 12:51 AM

I see a lot of German, a bit of French, and a swarm of things that I need to check avec meinen Freundins großes Wörterbuch.

Cailín · 06-25-2008, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinevere

"Ich bi sicher du häsch mir s'aller schwärste Züg gä. Ich ha Verbarme mit Schnägge, und allne wo ihri Hüser uf ihrem Rugge träged."

Came as far as this: I am sure that you have all heaviest ... I pity [snails?] and all who their houses on their back carry.

Frodo to Sam: "I am sure you have given me all the heaviest stuff. I pity snails, and all that carry their homes on their backs."

A funny dialect with some near-Dutch sounding words.

Guinevere · 06-26-2008, 01:38 PM

Well done, Cailin!

Swiss German dialect has some things in common with Dutch, like the guttural "ch" sound.

Cailín · 06-30-2008, 12:13 AM

''Blijf hier maar zitten ... en kijk uit over de landen waar kommer en kwel zal neerkomen op degenen die jij aan mij hebt uitgeleverd. Want jij hebt het gewaagd me te bespotten.''

Hopefully in the future I'll have time to translate a part into another language, but as I have no time at the moment, this is what you're getting.

01-29-2008, 07:52 AM	#681
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I forgot all about this. I've got all the words translated, but I haven't made them fit yet. __________________ Stories and songs.

01-29-2008, 08:07 AM	#682
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well, until you post the correct answer along with where this quote comes from, everyone has the chance to claim the victory. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-05-2008, 11:16 AM	#683
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I don't know about some others, but I'd like a hint. You could, for example, translate that dakryous there. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

02-05-2008, 11:43 AM	#684
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	That's exactly the one I would like to keep hidden as long as possible. Would you mind picking something else? Well, I can tell you it's a noun. A plural noun. And it is the object of the sentence (of "ymeis", that it). That much has to suffice. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-05-2008, 05:53 PM	#685
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	I guess it must be this: Dakryous myriona ymeis ekcheeite; kai _____ peribalousin _______ kata ymas, kai ekbalousin ymas exo, ina mete echo tou odyrmou ymon metabesetai dia ton oron. "Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains" (Since I work in a medical profession I recognized "Dacryo" as refering to tears ) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-06-2008, 02:05 AM	#686
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Goood, good! Very good! Yes, that's what I thought - someone may know some words from elsewhere Well done, Guinevere, your turn! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-09-2008, 03:12 PM	#688
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Just to make sure Is the book Lotr or some other? I just can't remember where something like that was. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

02-09-2008, 03:52 PM	#689
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Its from LotR alright. ( from RotK to be precise; if that's any help to you ) __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-10-2008, 04:20 PM	#692
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Yep, that's it, Aganzir. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-11-2008, 09:56 AM	#695
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	It's that, and don't look at me. I admit taking it from the Swedish translation instead of translating myself. insert angelic smilie __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

02-20-2008, 06:20 AM	#698
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	The first quote is, of course, right but the second one made me laugh hysterically. But anyway, it's your thread. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

02-22-2008, 01:18 PM	#701
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Lucky you Yes, that's right. You may continue. Now I can leave with mind completely clean of unfulfiled duties __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-16-2008, 12:40 PM	#704
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Limit was always there since we moved from Ezboard I beleive As for the quote - right you are Volo __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

03-16-2008, 02:20 PM	#706
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Am I allowed to answer? Not that Ukrainian is that similar to Czech, but... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-17-2008, 01:32 PM	#708
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	Sure, your turn. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

05-03-2008, 12:15 PM	#710
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	What about a hint? __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

05-03-2008, 01:25 PM	#711
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh my, now what was the original quote tries to decipher - oh, how good I wrote the Greek script there...¨ Aaah yeees, I know now! hémeis/hémon - a form of "we" or "us" (the second being "our") hodou - road or way chóra - land And again, I will suggest you try to look for words which, or whose parts would seem familiar to you. Right now I see at least two, one of which is quite obvious, another has a root inside it which can be thought of... possibly. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-08-2008, 02:13 PM	#712
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	I haven't forgotten this, I keep looking at it from time to time . I found or guessed several words (those you gave I had already found) but others remain mysterious and the whole thing doesn't ring a bell. (It took some time til I found that it has nothing to do with Háma!) Here's what I get until now: Simultaniously (....) we carried of the road (....) setting of the sun and from afar found (....) land where heart... (....) both stop again (....) Perhaps someone else can make sense of this... __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

06-08-2008, 02:31 PM	#713
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	It's actually very good and very close. I am sure someone could see the original quote in that. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-08-2008, 04:20 PM	#715
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Definitely Well done! The thread is yours. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-20-2008, 03:36 PM	#716
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Thank you, Legate! Since Aganzir's German is too good I'll try Swiss-German dialect to make it more challenging. "Ich bi sicher du häsch mir s'aller schwärste Züg gä. Ich ha Verbarme mit Schnägge, und allne wo ihri Hüser uf ihrem Rugge träged." __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

06-25-2008, 12:51 AM	#717
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	A tad too challenging . . . I see a lot of German, a bit of French, and a swarm of things that I need to check avec meinen Freundins großes Wörterbuch. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-26-2008, 01:38 PM	#719
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	That's it! Well done, Cailin! Swiss German dialect has some things in common with Dutch, like the guttural "ch" sound. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

06-30-2008, 12:13 AM	#720
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	New quotation ''Blijf hier maar zitten ... en kijk uit over de landen waar kommer en kwel zal neerkomen op degenen die jij aan mij hebt uitgeleverd. Want jij hebt het gewaagd me te bespotten.'' Hopefully in the future I'll have time to translate a part into another language, but as I have no time at the moment, this is what you're getting.