TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them?

[Inziladun]

++Mormegil

[Lariren Shadow]

*kindly directs the Dark Monarch to fly to the blue light that is totally not a bug zapper, really not*

Mira --> Rikae
Shasta --> Mira
Morm --> Rikae (2)
Alona --> Morm
Nerwen --> Mira (2)
Sally --> Morm (2)
Inzil --> Morm (3)

Morm 3, Mira and Rikae 2.

Left to vote:
Autume
Brinn
Durelin
Form
Lommy
Mac
Nessa
Nienna
Rikae
the phantom

[autume98]

Originally Posted by Rikae

autume, what I want to know is why you find those people innocentish (for example).

Mac - Well he hasn't said anything that has thrown me off. He's asked some good questions. I have noticed that he's gone under most of people's radar. However he really hasn't done or said anything to attract a lot of attention.

alona - Maybe it has to do with us both being newbies. I see where she's coming from a lot of the time.

sally - I know a lot of people are suspicious of her just for being her. It seems there are quite a lot of people on the board like that. You just don't trust them. I guess she hasn't done anything to make my gut flare up. Maybe not the answer you want, but it is the answer I've got.

Nienna - I appreciate the fact that she wanted to know about my vote. Even though I had posted it awhile back. It seems as though she just overlooked that post. She apologized and all is good. I guess that just put her in a good standing for the time being. Can't say it'll stay that way, but for the time being she is ok.

[the phantom]

rhinoceros

I'm hardly having any time to read here, so would anyone be so kind as to tell me why Morm is attracting votes?

rhinoceros

And I agree that it's confusing have Tum and Tummy. I suppose if we have no better options we should lynch her just to get rid of that problem.

rhinoceros

And really Rikae- that last post I was basically repeating you? So you also questioned Shasta about his vote and said that Mira looked guilty of nothing but Cobblery? If so then I'm sorry for not reading more thoroughly. Like I said I'm only having time to skim.

rhinoceros

And if you're wondering why I keep saying rhinoceros, it's due to Nienna's word clouds. If I keep typing rhinoceros then rhinoceros will show up decently large in the cloud, and it would be extremely funny to see rhinoceros prominently displayed. And along the same lines as rhinoceros...

pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding pudding

[Boromir88]

rhinoceros pudding... doesn't sound appetizing.

[Thinlómien]

It took me longer than I expected but I'm here now and I'm reading...

[satansaloser2005]

*refreshes, glances up*

Or we could just lynch Morm, since he's the only one who calls you Tummy on a regular basis. Or we could lynch all three of you and be done with it completely.

*giggles, sees Phantom's clever plan*

Heh. I bloody love you.

*yawns*

Unfortunately, I have no funny words to offer right now. This saddens me.

*falls asleep again*

EDIT: x'd with Boro and Lommie. Penguin pudding, on the other hand....

penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin penguin yay!

[Macalaure]

While I don't really trust him either, starting a bandwaggon against morm when he's not here to defend himself looks very much like a mistake we made just recently.

Very suspicious in this regard: Inzil. In the last post before his vote he throws a question at morm, knowing it can't be answered and thus intentionally making it an open question. The vote follows minutes after.

I'm really not sure what to think about Sally's vote for him

Again about Inzil:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Mira's slip was bad, but is it worth a vote? Two already think so....

He elegantly avoids stating whether he think it's worth a vote, leaving only a rhetoric statement creating more of an atmosphere of suspicion against Mira, since as a wolf he doesn't care much whether non-wolf morm or non-wolf Mira get lynched.

Add the things I said about him before, here's a good bandwaggon for you:

++Inziladun

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I'm hardly having any time to read here, so would anyone be so kind as to tell me why Morm is attracting votes?

I was suspicious of Morm for piggy-backing on Mira's vote for Rikae, though I'm thinking of retracting since Mira said that her vote wasn't certain to begin with. Sally said that he made her squirm and Zil had a few questions for Morm, but voted for him anyway in his next post.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And really Rikae- that last post I was basically repeating you? So you also questioned Shasta about his vote and said that Mira looked guilty of nothing but Cobblery?

Yes, actually, I did.

[satansaloser2005]

Does anyone love me enough to snag me a vote count from yesterDay as well as an updated one from toDay, so's I can compare them? Please?



I'd be forever grateful, no joke. If not I'll try to drum it up when I get back up, but if someone could it would be fabulous.

Also, Mac, I quite agree about Dun. I'll give him another look, it's just that Morm was bothering me at the time and I thought that way if for some reason I don't get back I'm at least stuck on a vote that I'm comfortable with. Don't be surprised if I do end up switching though, especially if it's to Dun.


*crashes*

[Nienna]

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by alonariel

I was suspicious of Morm for piggy-backing on Mira's vote for Rikae, though I'm thinking of retracting since Mira said that her vote wasn't certain to begin with. Sally said that he made her squirm and Zil had a few questions for Morm, but voted for him anyway in his next post.

Am I reading this wrong? It sounds like you're considering backing off your morm vote because Mira might back off her vote for me... what does that have to do with morm? Just wondering.

[Nienna]

Vote count Day One:

Rikae--> Rikae
Form--> Mira
Morm--> Hakon
Alona--> Hakon
Sally--> Hakon
Brinn--> Morm
Autume--> Hakon
--Rikae---Rikae
--Form---Mira
Shasta --> Pitchwife
Mac --> Alona
Durelin --> Nessa
Pitchwife --> Alona
Zil --> Rikae
--Pitchwife -- Alona
Pitchwife --> Sally
Rikae --> Pitchwife
Nessa --> Rikae
Nienna --> Pitchwife
Form --> Nessa
Lari --> Zil
Hakon --> Pitchwife
--Mac -- Alona
Mac --> Zil
--Autume -- Hakcon
Autume --> Pitchwife


So Pitchwife5, Hakon 3, Rikae, Zil and Nessa 2, Sally, and Morm 1.




ToDay's Count:

Mira --> Rikae
Shasta --> Mira
Morm --> Rikae
Alona --> Morm
Nerwen--> Mira
Sally--> Morm
Zil --> Morm
Mac--> Zil

Morm 3, Rikaeand Mira 2, Zil 1

[Rikae]

And - phantom shows up and asks why morm is suspicious, and immediately both Alona and Sally talk about switching? Not that I'm determined to see morm lynched - I find him only a bit suspicious - but that is just weird, weird weirdness.

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Am I reading this wrong? It sounds like you're considering backing off your morm vote because Mira might back off her vote for me... what does that have to do with morm? Just wondering.

I thought Morm for suspicious for jumping on a bandwaggon so early on--

Wait, scratch that. You're right. It has nothing to do with him. If I do retract, it'll be after he's had a chance to post and answer things first, and then see where things stand.

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Rikae

And - phantom shows up and asks why morm is suspicious, and immediately both Alona and Sally talk about switching? Not that I'm determined to see morm lynched - I find him only a bit suspicious - but that is just weird, weird weirdness.

I'd already stated in my vote post that I may retract later, since I voted relatively early in the Day.

[Nienna]

The Non-Hakon/Pitchwife voters:

Brinn: not very much to go by… she isn’t ringing any alarm bells

Dury: I wish she would post more

Form: Has said a lot but am not sure if he has really said anything

Zil: He is making me a little uneasy. It may be just the way he was defending himself but something rubs me the wrong way. I’ll keep my eyes on him.

Lommy: has been having fun with Downers without us… but nothing suspicious on the game front

Mac: Seems to be making a lot of sense in what he posts

Mira: Made some mistakes but she doesn’t feel like a baddie

Nerwen: I’m trying to remember anything she’s said… except backwards writing and am coming up sort

Nessa: See Nerwen - backwards writing

The Phantom: I have no idea… but likes my word clouds so I temporarily like him if only for superficial reasons

[Lariren Shadow]

Originally Posted by Nienna

ToDay's Count:

Mira --> Rikae
Shasta --> Mira
Morm --> Rikae
Alona --> Morm
Nerwen--> Mira
Sally--> Morm
Zil --> Morm
Mac--> Zil

Morm 3, Rikaeand Mira 2, Zil 1

I was going to do that! I was waiting for another vote! Stop stealing my job!

And the Dark Monarch is a mountain of mad flesh.

[Rikae]

Hm, well, for all the reasons I've listed before (take that, whoever summarizes the votes toMorrow! Haha!) and because I heard she was once unkind to a capybara:

++alonariel

The capybara (Hydrochoerus Hydrochaeris) is an amazing rodent. I first encountered a capybara in 1983, and I have never forgotten the fascinating creature with it's delightful name: capybara. The sound of it just rolls off your tongue: Capybara, capybara, capybara, see? When people ask my favorite animal, I enjoy answering "capybara", because they are bound to think "capybara? What the heck is a capybara?" and I can score points for randomness and uniqueness and perhaps win a pet capybara of my very own.

[Rikae]

And because I've seen confusion created by my votes-with-jokes-included before, I'll explain:
It is not a joke vote - it is a vote based on analysis and suspicion outlined in previous posts, and the fact that alona's responses have not reduced that suspicion - (in fact, they have a smooth and slippery feel about them) - which I chose to post in conjunction with a joke. There you go.

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Hm, well, for all the reasons I've listed before (take that, whoever summarizes the votes toMorrow! Haha!) and because I heard she was once unkind to a capybara:

++alonariel

Capybara?

[Lariren Shadow]

Mira --> Rikae
Shasta --> Mira
Morm --> Rikae (2)
Alona --> Morm
Nerwen --> Mira (2)
Sally --> Morm (2)
Inzil --> Morm (3)
Mac --> Inzil
Rikae --> Alona

Morm 3, Mira and Rikae 2, Inzil and Alona 1.

Left to vote:
Autume
Brinn
Durelin
Form
Lommy
Nessa
Nienna
the phantom

[autume98]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

While I don't really trust him either, starting a bandwaggon against morm when he's not here to defend himself looks very much like a mistake we made just recently.

Very suspicious in this regard: Inzil. In the last post before his vote he throws a question at morm, knowing it can't be answered and thus intentionally making it an open question. The vote follows minutes after.

I'm really not sure what to think about Sally's vote for him

Again about Inzil:

He elegantly avoids stating whether he think it's worth a vote, leaving only a rhetoric statement creating more of an atmosphere of suspicion against Mira, since as a wolf he doesn't care much whether non-wolf morm or non-wolf Mira get lynched.

Add the things I said about him before, here's a good bandwaggon for you:

++Inziladun

I really agree with you Mac and I would like to know why he voted for morm. Only it doesn't sound like he'll be back before DL as you can see below. So where do you stand with Inzil not being able to defend himself?

Originally Posted by Inzil

I probably won't be back before DL, so I must decide on my vote soon.

Edit: x-ed with 2 Rikae's, Alona, and Lari

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Rikae

And because I've seen confusion created by my votes-with-jokes-included before, I'll explain:
It is not a joke vote - it is a vote based on analysis and suspicion outlined in previous posts, and the fact that alona's responses have not reduced that suspicion - (in fact, they have a smooth and slippery feel about them) - which I chose to post in conjunction with a joke. There you go.

Okay, because for a sec I thought you were trying to hint to the wolves that you were the rat - the cobbler, in effect. But I respect your vote, even if it does leave me a little blue.

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by autume98

I really agree with you Mac and I would like to know why he voted for morm. Only it doesn't sound like he'll be back before DL as you can see below. So where do you stand with Inzil not being able to defend himself?

I'm wondering if it wasn't a very, very sneaky ploy. No one will talk about him because he's not here to defend himself, so there won't be any further suspicion surrounding him. In any event, I'm not going to do anything with my vote until Morm returns and/or Inziladun, now, I guess.

[the phantom]

Nienna- you didn't include my Day 1 vote. And I like that cloud. Thanks.

Okay, so, Morm...

*thinks*

Nah, not going to vote for him today.

And I can't possibly vote for Brin after that post she made including lyrics sung by yours truly. Yeah. We should just let her win after that.

Hmm... I'm tempted to repeat my vote from yesterday for Rikae. Unless she's the Bear she aint going to live long anyway. After her constant attempts to discredit my Bear-should-kill-Wolves-and-Cobbler plan, and after her opening self vote ("Hi there! Cobbler here!"), the Bear has got to suspect her at least a little bit of being on the opposing side and I can't imagine him resisting taking a shot at her for long.

But again that's an equally good reason not to bother voting for her, because why waste a vote when she stands a good shot of being Night-killed anyway?

So maybe I wouldn't mind throwing a fresh log onto the lynching pile.

Any volunteers?

[satansaloser2005]

Pick me, pick me! Pfffft, right.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by autume98

I really agree with you Mac and I would like to know why he voted for morm. Only it doesn't sound like he'll be back before DL as you can see below. So where do you stand with Inzil not being able to defend himself?

Obviously, it's a pity he doesn't get to defend himself against the things brought up against the things he said in his last two posts. However, those aren't the only things he's suspected for, and he had time to defend himself against those.

Some people are never around for the deadline due to time zones and schedules. It can't be helped, and of course those people can't get a free pass forever.

On Day1 it's particularly difficult, and each time suspicion only comes up for the first time after a person has left. Both is not the case here.

Also, Inzil himself chose to vote for someone who wouldn't be back, and he didn't just state his reasons, but asked questions (minutes before his vote, so even if he was unaware that morm was gone, he still knew beforehand that his question wouldn't be answered before his vote).

Enough?

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by alonariel

Okay, because for a sec I thought you were trying to hint to the wolves that you were the rat - the cobbler, in effect.

Balderdash! A capybara is not a rat! You have besmirched the name of a most honorable animal!

Originally Posted by alona

But I respect your vote, even if it does leave me a little blue.

Sorry about that and nothing personal - I have to go with my strongest suspicion, you know. Sorry if you're innocent (I haven't played with you before, too, so I don't know your usual style).

I might switch at some point; if so, Inzil is a strong candidate. As for not being around until DL, he is still one of the most suspicious people and, if he were gifted, I think he would have the sense not to leave his fate dangling by being gone so long, but to at least check in.
I'm wary about the risk of lynching a gifted, but I'm also wary about the possibility "excusing themselves" might be an easy way for baddies to avoid lynching. We'll see. I also might have to switch to save myself, I'm afraid.

EDIT: Crossed with alona, phantom, Sally and Mac.

[Thinlómien]

Okay, now I managed to read through Day1 and these are the impressions I got based on it:

alonariel - cute avvie, but I still keep mixing her up with all the other newbies and half of Fea's gang
autume- not much to go on, slightly fishy (ha!) when switching her vote
Brinn- really touchy feely, whether due to a stressing role (werebear, anyone?) or bad day, no idea
Durelin- I like her
Formendacil- I like him
Inziladun- quite okay this far, I don't get the suspicion against him
Macalaure- not quite as suspicious as last time I played with him (translation for those who missed Brinn's game: seems fine this far, was a wolf last time and I totally caught him, speaking of which, I still have some reps to give out for that one...)
Mira- the banter-girl
morm- good ol' grumpy morm, I like him
Nerwen- when reading her posts I realised I missed her jokes when I was away from BD for several weeks... so it may be biased when I say she seems fine
Nessa- don't get why everybody suspects her
Nienna- totally under the radar
Rikae- could take a relaxing holiday (maybe together with Brinn, aww, wouldn't that be sweet? ) and looks a bit suspicious to me
sally- innocent enough
Shasta- gives me bad vibes
the phantom- messing around as usual

Now I'm off to read toDay. I will comment as I read in order to save time so sorry if I end up parroting people!

[the phantom]

That's the second time you've volunteered Sally. One more time and by Werewolf rules we'll have to lynch you. Be careful.

What's that you say, Shasta? You'd like to volunteer? Well, I'd love to help you out, but Sally said it first. She has to refuse before you can offer yourself. Sorry.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

That's the second time you've volunteered Sally. One more time and by Werewolf rules we'll have to lynch you. Be careful.

What's that you say, Shasta? You'd like to volunteer? Well, I'd love to help you out, but Sally said it first. She has to refuse before you can offer yourself. Sorry.

Hey, I did say yesterDay that if a gifted was in trouble then better me than them. I'm not going to die just to satisfy your bloodlust, darling. And I'd be more than happy to let Shasta go in front of me. He owes me one.

Oh, and by the way?

Originally Posted by le phantome

She has to refuse before you can offer yourself. Sorry.

Where's the Dark Monarch when we need her?

[autume98]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Enough?

Works for me. I'm tempted to vote for him myself. I really don't like what he just did.

Originally Posted by Rikae

I might switch at some point; if so, Inzil is a strong candidate. As for not being around until DL, he is still one of the most suspicious people and, if he were gifted, I think he would have the sense not to leave his fate dangling by being gone so long, but to at least check in.
I'm wary about the risk of lynching a gifted, but I'm also wary about the possibility "excusing themselves" might be an easy way for baddies to avoid lynching.

That's why I'm not sure whether to vote for him or not. Especially after yesterday.

Edit: x-ed with Tummy, phantom, and sally

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Tum

Edit: x-ed with Tummy, phantom, and sally

You crossed with Phantom twice? That means you've double crossed him. Inconceivable!

(I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, but it was too good to pass up.)


Oh, and Lommie's back. Yay!

[autume98]

[QUOTE=satansaloser2005;607369]You crossed with Phantom twice? That means you've double crossed him. Inconceivable!

(I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, but it was too good to pass up.)
QUOTE]

Well somebody had to do it!

[autume98]

I've taken a closer look at Inzil and I'm going to have to vote for him. He seems to be looking pretty suspicious.

1. I've had nothing against Rikae up to this point. I don't really like the way he went after Rikae or Mac earlier toDay. Nothing wrong in doing that. To me it just didn't look right.

2. He throws out some suspicions and doesn't back them up.

3. He asks a question of morm when morm isn't around to answer. Then goes ahead and votes for morm without explaining why.

4. After yesterday I'd rather get this vote in now and not be the deciding factor in killing a Gifted.

++Inzil

[the phantom]

Completely forgot to mention it earlier-

I saw some people saying stuff about how maybe Hakon had spotted the Bear, or that the Bear was worried he'd been spotted by him, or that Haky was blackmailing him, etc etc.

No, no, no. You can't really spot a Bear. A Bear has no special links to anyone and simply wants to not die. Just like the Ranger. And the Hunter. And every last Ordo in this gathering. He blends in. Kills can maybe clue you in on the Bear, but his behavior during the day? There's no reason for him to be any different than everyone else. And especially to even think the Bear would be spotted with any kind of certainty on the first day? And that he would actually be spooked about the possibilities of being nailed the first day? No, no, no... Not buying it at all.

Personally I would like to think that the Bear simply did us all a favor by killing one of the secondary lynch targets from the day before. Since we thought he was perhaps worthy of lynching, the Bear kills him and tells us what we need to know (his role, and therefore whether or not there was any sort of Villain-saving going on during the vote).

Perhaps old Teddy is indeed helping us catch the Villains.

Where's the Dark Monarch when we need her?

At her house getting ready for our date tonight.

[Lariren Shadow]

Mira --> Rikae
Shasta --> Mira
Morm --> Rikae (2)
Alona --> Morm
Nerwen --> Mira (2)
Sally --> Morm (2)
Inzil --> Morm (3)
Mac --> Inzil
Rikae --> Alona
Autume --> Inzil (2)

Morm 3, Mira, Rikae and Inzil 2, Alona 1.

Left to vote:
Brinn
Durelin
Form
Lommy
Nessa
Nienna
the phantom

[Nessa Telrunya]

Okay, wow, finally back to be able to read posts, and yay! Stuff with substance! That cures the aches from bad Elvis impersonators!


Soooo, there seem to be a lot of bandwagons to go with now, but they all sound sound. (Haha, get it?) But who really stands out?

Well, I would like to agree that alona and Tum are awfully cool with each other. But I still don't find Tum guilty, for earlier stated reasons. Alona seems a lil... Double sided this time around, I suppose. Her answers ring perfect when first read, but when pondered... could be wolf on innocent.

++alonariel

And I'm sorry that being voted for makes you feel so bad. Just know that this is coming from me only in-game. Nothing against you personally.