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Lindolirian · 03-18-2004, 07:05 AM

4. Helluin

Miriel · 03-18-2004, 11:32 AM

Ah, some good answers there.

'Nauglamir' is correct.

All others wrong, but Nilpaurion is very very close with the guess for no. 8 ... just follow all of the steps in the clue...

NightKnight · 03-18-2004, 12:22 PM

4. Sirius?
8. The Followers or The Aftercomers?

Firefoot · 03-18-2004, 03:19 PM

#2 - The new Sawmill in the Shire?
#9 - Cirith Ungol?

Turambar · 03-18-2004, 05:48 PM

#4 Luinil ?

Finwe · 03-18-2004, 07:00 PM

8. Followers?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-18-2004, 09:31 PM

8. Hildórien?

Miriel · 03-19-2004, 11:52 AM

NightKnight is right with the Aftercomers. (A translation of Hildor).
Turambar is right with Luinil.

Cirith Ungol is wrong. Nilpaurion's first guess at #9 was good.
#2 ... nope.

If you need any hints, yell...

NightKnight · 03-19-2004, 12:01 PM

9. Winding Stair?

Miriel · 03-19-2004, 12:08 PM

Nope.

NightKnight · 03-19-2004, 12:14 PM

The other stair, with the name I can't remember?

Miriel · 03-19-2004, 12:20 PM

*grins*

No, it's not a stairway. As I said, Nilpaurion was almost right with Cirith Forn en Andrath. Almost....

Lindolirian · 03-19-2004, 12:23 PM

Perhaps you meant the more common version of its name used by Gandalf, "the High Pass"?

Miriel · 03-19-2004, 12:33 PM

No. The High Pass isn't passed by Greenway. You need to go further south.

Miriel · 03-19-2004, 12:35 PM

Update (as I drive myself mad going back and forth between pages

):

1. Gladden Fields - Cheery hideout stands before stretches of grass.
2. Robin Smallburrow - Confused Sam will burn or rob.
3. Araman - Half a judge follows Elvish noble in barren wasteland.
4. Luinil - Blue-shining star.
5. Woses - A lack of direction makes Wild Men miserable.
6. Nauglamir - Gift to Elvish leader causes his downfall.
7. Strawheads - Incomers precede heads with dried grass to mock thralls.
8. Aftercomers - Beginnings of a hobbit's departed uncle meet Elvish land, and are translated for men.
9. Andrath - Long Climb passed by Greenway.

NightKnight · 03-19-2004, 12:43 PM

9. Redhorn Pass/Pass of Caradhras?

Miriel · 03-19-2004, 12:45 PM

No. Check Greenway's path, and remember the 'long climb' bit. When I say Nilpaurion was close, it's not because he chose a mountain pass.

NightKnight · 03-19-2004, 12:52 PM

Then it has to be Andrath, which means "long climb".

Silmarien · 03-19-2004, 10:51 PM

1. Dunharrow?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-20-2004, 02:22 AM

9. Tharbad?

Miriel · 03-20-2004, 07:06 AM

Andrath it is.

Dunharrow is wrong.
So ... just some cryptic things left now ... again, shout if hints are needed...

Lindolirian · 03-22-2004, 04:12 PM

7. Incomers precede heads with dried grass to mock thralls.

The Incomers are the Easterlings who call the Edain of Hithlum Strawheads and make them thralls.

Finwe · 03-22-2004, 09:02 PM

2) Master of Doom?

Turambar · 03-23-2004, 08:41 AM

#5 Woses --> woe without the S's ?

#1 Gladden Fields ?

*shouts for hint on #2*

Miriel · 03-23-2004, 10:25 AM

Ooh, good answers.

Lindolirian is right with 'strawheads'.
Turambar is right with 'woses' and 'gladden fields'.

As for #2 ... well, it's
confused 'sam will burn or rob'.
So take confused as having its usual cryptic meaning - ie, indicating an anagram - and see what you can do with the letters.

Hint: You're looking for a living being.

Should be easier now.

Turambar · 03-23-2004, 11:30 AM

Robin Smallburrow? Though you seem to have an extra "R", and no "W".

Miriel · 03-23-2004, 11:47 AM

Robin Smallburrow it is.

The 'w' is from 'will', and there are 3 'r's (burn or rob) and 3 'r's in Robin Smallburrow. So it should work.

Password, anyone?

Miriel · 03-23-2004, 11:50 AM

The completed clues:

1. Gladden Fields - Cheery hideout stands before stretches of grass.
2. Robin Smallburrow - Confused Sam will burn or rob.
3. Araman - Half a judge follows Elvish noble in barren wasteland.
4. Luinil - Blue-shining star.
5. Woses - A lack of direction makes Wild Men miserable.
6. Nauglamir - Gift to Elvish leader causes his downfall.
7. Strawheads - Incomers precede heads with dried grass to mock thralls.
8. Aftercomers - Beginnings of a hobbit's departed uncle meet Elvish land, and are translated for men.
9. Andrath - Long Climb passed by Greenway.

Turambar · 03-23-2004, 01:16 PM

Oops - you're right - well, that was a nice scramble, then.

Miriel · 03-29-2004, 02:09 PM

Thanks!

Anyone going to venture a guess at this password? (Hint: look at the second letters in each word)

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-29-2004, 09:34 PM

An earlier name for Irmo/Lórien?

Miriel · 03-30-2004, 10:33 AM

That would be correct.

Continue!

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-31-2004, 09:10 PM

Plese wait for my next puzzle. It'll be here in a bit...well...maybe longer than that.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-04-2004, 10:57 PM

1. Old and Elder.
2. Elvish solar year.
3. V. Eärendil - He was the fifth king of Gondor.
4. Sounds like a diminutive king.
5. Hobbit between one hot table.

Enjoy. Be safe. Don't follow the lights.

Evisse the Blue · 04-05-2004, 02:41 AM

#2 Yen
#1- Tom Bombadil?

Finwe · 04-05-2004, 09:38 PM

4) Prince?

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-06-2004, 07:16 AM

Nil, is that the answer to #3, or is it part of the clue?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-07-2004, 03:07 AM

Sauce, that was the answer for #3.

As for your guesses, hmmm...wrong!

Some clues (before I am exiled for a week to the provinces):

1, 4, and 5 are cryptic. The rest are not.

symestreem · 04-08-2004, 08:40 PM

#1 Gnome?

NightKnight · 04-10-2004, 02:21 AM

2. Coraner?

03-18-2004, 07:05 AM	#641
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	4. Helluin __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-18-2004, 11:32 AM	#642
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Ah, some good answers there. 'Nauglamir' is correct. All others wrong, but Nilpaurion is very very close with the guess for no. 8 ... just follow all of the steps in the clue... __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-18-2004, 12:22 PM	#643
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	4. Sirius? 8. The Followers or The Aftercomers? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-18-2004, 03:19 PM	#644
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Don't ask... #2 - The new Sawmill in the Shire? #9 - Cirith Ungol?

03-18-2004, 05:48 PM	#645
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	#4 Luinil ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-18-2004, 07:00 PM	#646
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	8. Followers? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

03-18-2004, 09:31 PM	#647
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Hmmm... 8. Hildórien? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-19-2004, 11:52 AM	#648
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	NightKnight is right with the Aftercomers. (A translation of Hildor). Turambar is right with Luinil. Cirith Ungol is wrong. Nilpaurion's first guess at #9 was good. #2 ... nope. If you need any hints, yell... __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-19-2004, 12:01 PM	#649
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	9. Winding Stair? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-19-2004, 12:08 PM	#650
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Nope. __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-19-2004, 12:14 PM	#651
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	The other stair, with the name I can't remember? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-19-2004, 12:20 PM	#652
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	grins No, it's not a stairway. As I said, Nilpaurion was almost right with Cirith Forn en Andrath. Almost.... __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-19-2004, 12:23 PM	#653
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Perhaps you meant the more common version of its name used by Gandalf, "the High Pass"? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-19-2004, 12:33 PM	#654
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	No. The High Pass isn't passed by Greenway. You need to go further south. __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-19-2004, 12:35 PM	#655
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Update (as I drive myself mad going back and forth between pages ): 1. Gladden Fields - Cheery hideout stands before stretches of grass. 2. Robin Smallburrow - Confused Sam will burn or rob. 3. Araman - Half a judge follows Elvish noble in barren wasteland. 4. Luinil - Blue-shining star. 5. Woses - A lack of direction makes Wild Men miserable. 6. Nauglamir - Gift to Elvish leader causes his downfall. 7. Strawheads - Incomers precede heads with dried grass to mock thralls. 8. Aftercomers - Beginnings of a hobbit's departed uncle meet Elvish land, and are translated for men. 9. Andrath - Long Climb passed by Greenway. __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear) Last edited by Miriel; 03-23-2004 at 11:49 AM.

03-19-2004, 12:43 PM	#656
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	9. Redhorn Pass/Pass of Caradhras? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-19-2004, 12:45 PM	#657
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	No. Check Greenway's path, and remember the 'long climb' bit. When I say Nilpaurion was close, it's not because he chose a mountain pass. __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear) Last edited by Miriel; 03-19-2004 at 12:50 PM.

03-19-2004, 12:52 PM	#658
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	Then it has to be Andrath, which means "long climb". __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

03-19-2004, 10:51 PM	#659
Silmarien Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lost but Found Posts: 199	1. Dunharrow? __________________ Though here at journeys end I lie in dakness buried deep, beyond all towers strong and high beyond all mountains steep, above all shadows rides the Sun and Stars forever dwell:I will not say the Day is done nor bid the Stars farewell!

03-20-2004, 02:22 AM	#660
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	My 16" gun blew up, so I'm using the Mk-26 missile launcher... 9. Tharbad? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good... Last edited by Nilpaurion Felagund; 03-20-2004 at 02:26 AM.

03-20-2004, 07:06 AM	#661
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Andrath it is. Dunharrow is wrong. So ... just some cryptic things left now ... again, shout if hints are needed... __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-22-2004, 04:12 PM	#662
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	7. Incomers precede heads with dried grass to mock thralls. The Incomers are the Easterlings who call the Edain of Hithlum Strawheads and make them thralls. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-22-2004, 09:02 PM	#663
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	2) Master of Doom? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

03-23-2004, 08:41 AM	#664
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	#5 Woses --> woe without the S's ? #1 Gladden Fields ? shouts for hint on #2 __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 03-23-2004 at 09:21 AM.

03-23-2004, 10:25 AM	#665
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Ooh, good answers. Lindolirian is right with 'strawheads'. Turambar is right with 'woses' and 'gladden fields'. As for #2 ... well, it's confused 'sam will burn or rob'. So take confused as having its usual cryptic meaning - ie, indicating an anagram - and see what you can do with the letters. Hint: You're looking for a living being. Should be easier now. __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-23-2004, 11:30 AM	#666
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Robin Smallburrow? Though you seem to have an extra "R", and no "W". __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-23-2004, 11:47 AM	#667
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Robin Smallburrow it is. The 'w' is from 'will', and there are 3 'r's (burn or rob) and 3 'r's in Robin Smallburrow. So it should work. Password, anyone? __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-23-2004, 11:50 AM	#668
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	The completed clues: 1. Gladden Fields - Cheery hideout stands before stretches of grass. 2. Robin Smallburrow - Confused Sam will burn or rob. 3. Araman - Half a judge follows Elvish noble in barren wasteland. 4. Luinil - Blue-shining star. 5. Woses - A lack of direction makes Wild Men miserable. 6. Nauglamir - Gift to Elvish leader causes his downfall. 7. Strawheads - Incomers precede heads with dried grass to mock thralls. 8. Aftercomers - Beginnings of a hobbit's departed uncle meet Elvish land, and are translated for men. 9. Andrath - Long Climb passed by Greenway. __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-23-2004, 01:16 PM	#669
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Oops - you're right - well, that was a nice scramble, then. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-29-2004, 02:09 PM	#670
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Thanks! Anyone going to venture a guess at this password? (Hint: look at the second letters in each word) __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-29-2004, 09:34 PM	#671
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Olofantur? An earlier name for Irmo/Lórien? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-30-2004, 10:33 AM	#672
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	Woohoo! That would be correct. Continue! __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

03-31-2004, 09:10 PM	#673
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Thanks! Plese wait for my next puzzle. It'll be here in a bit...well...maybe longer than that. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-04-2004, 10:57 PM	#674
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	'ere we go... 1. Old and Elder. 2. Elvish solar year. 3. V. Eärendil - He was the fifth king of Gondor. 4. Sounds like a diminutive king. 5. Hobbit between one hot table. Enjoy. Be safe. Don't follow the lights. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-05-2004, 02:41 AM	#675
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	obvious guesses #2 Yen #1- Tom Bombadil? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.