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[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Bible says 'Instead of bronze, I bring you gold'.

The word is one used to describe the rubbish left after you refine a metal.

hS

[Urwen]

Scrap?

[Nerwen]

Dross. So, MAEDHROS?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Dross. So, MAEDHROS?

That's the one!

The flame shall not hurt thee; I only design
Thy dross to consume, and thy gold to refine.

MAEDHROS - "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
AMROTH - I am the king, I am angry, I
AR-PHARAZON - "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
IDRIL - Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
NOWË - No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
ELWING - In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
ELESSAR "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

Not the best of clues, but I had a complete blank on how to clue 'dross'. So.

Over to Urwen!

hS

[Urwen]

1. 'Tween the flower lacking an insect and a Faithful Easterling, a reversed note sits. A grandson is revealed.
2. An alcoholic liquor makes him endlessly sick.
3. A biblical sister returns without end. Hear the pronoun within. For him.
4. He went a long way and for a long period of time.
5. A returning rodent and a spinning dinosaur triggered an endless warning. He is revealed.

[Nerwen]

#2, I believe, is RUMIL (rum + il(l)).

[Urwen]

1. 'Tween the flower lacking an insect and a Faithful Easterling, a reversed note sits. A grandson is revealed.
RUMIL: An alcoholic liquor makes him endlessly sick.
3. A biblical sister returns without end. Hear the pronoun within. For him.
4. He went a long way and for a long period of time.
5. A returning rodent and a spinning dinosaur triggered an endless warning. He is revealed.

[Pervinca Took]

3 could be TURIN - RUTH backwards plus IN (within). You can hear U (you) but you don't need to, because it's already accounted for.

[Urwen]

No, it's a different sister.

[Pervinca Took]

4. Forlong? (Worth a guess).

[Urwen]

Nope.

[Pervinca Took]

I think 1 is CELEBRIMBOR.

BOR= Chief of the Faithful Easterlings.
IM = MI backwards.
CELEBR(ANT) = river (flower).

Famous grandson of Feanor. I wonder if they ever knew each other.

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: 'Tween the flower lacking an insect and a Faithful Easterling, a reversed note sits. A grandson is revealed.
RUMIL: An alcoholic liquor makes him endlessly sick.
3. A biblical sister returns without end. Hear the pronoun within. For him.
4. He went a long way and for a long period of time.
5. A returning rodent and a spinning dinosaur triggered an endless warning. He is revealed.

Have you heard of the pairing called 'Fallen Banners', by the way? That pairing is rather popular on teh interwebz, and I'm starting to see why.

[Nerwen]

Is #4 FËANÁRO (far + aeon)?

Is the password CRAFT?

(And no, I haven't heard of that pairing and I'm chicken to google it...)

[Urwen]

It's a pairing of Feanor's grandson and Fingolfin's grandson.

CELEBRIMBOR: 'Tween the flower lacking an insect and a Faithful Easterling, a reversed note sits. A grandson is revealed.
RUMIL: An alcoholic liquor makes him endlessly sick.
A: A biblical sister returns without end. Hear the pronoun within. For him.
FEANARO: He went a long way and for a long period of time.
T: A returning rodent and a spinning dinosaur triggered an endless warning. He is revealed.

And it's your turn to make a riddle as well.

[Pervinca Took]

If it's crafts, I guess A must be AULE, with LEA(H) and U.

I was expecting it to run backwards without mixing up.

Ruth (my previous guess for the sister) is I think a daughter-in-law, not a sister.

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: 'Tween the flower lacking an insect and a Faithful Easterling, a reversed note sits. A grandson is revealed.
RUMIL: An alcoholic liquor makes him endlessly sick.
AULE: A biblical sister returns without end. Hear the pronoun within. For him.
FEANARO: He went a long way and for a long period of time.
T: A returning rodent and a spinning dinosaur triggered an endless warning. He is revealed.

[Huinesoron]

'Returning rodent' must be TAR-, and the best fit for the rest of the clue is dino + alar(m) = TAR-ALDARION, the shipwright.

hS

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: 'Tween the flower lacking an insect and a Faithful Easterling, a reversed note sits. A grandson is revealed.
RUMIL: An alcoholic liquor makes him endlessly sick.
AULE: A biblical sister returns without end. Hear the pronoun within. For him.
FEANARO: He went a long way and for a long period of time.
TAR-ALDARION: A returning rodent and a spinning dinosaur triggered an endless warning. He is revealed.

Over to Nerwen.

[Nerwen]

1. Adding note to a vessel results in a failure to shed light.
2. An isle without water about it.
3. Flowers receive radiation. Sounds like it's a boy!
4. Exclamation from opening creates a tempest.
5. It stops everything from happening at once.
6. An unwise thing to do at the Mewlips' door!
7. One who has no need for bicycles.

[Pervinca Took]

6. Knock? (According to the poem).

3. Hwaet? Not sure about storm, but it has 4/5 of water ... perhaps it doesn't have to be from the *exact* opening of something, though.

7. Mr Bliss? He has a motor car.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

6. Knock? (According to the poem).

3. Hwaet? Not sure about storm, but it has 4/5 of water ... perhaps it doesn't have to be from the *exact* opening of something, though.

7. Mr Bliss? He has a motor car.

#3. No.

#7. No.

#6. Yes, but I'm looking for an equivalent action to perform at a door... and the poem is oddly ambiguous about this.

[Pervinca Took]

Loiter?

(I know it doesn't mean knock, but ....)

Call?

[Nerwen]

Nearly there.

[Huinesoron]

2. Thinks an island is a MOUNTAIN

6. And slow and softly RINGs their bell

7. We only wish to catch a FISH

5. Give me more time! Give me TIME!

At which point I think I may have found myself a theme, so I may as well round it out:

3. SUN on the daisies it means, it does (= son)

1. The answer was all round him anyway: "DARK!" (D + Ark, and very appropriate for the black-themed Downs)

4. WIND, wind of course. (window - OW!)

If it weren't for 5 & 6 I could make the password RIDDLES (by taking 3 as 'sun on the daisies'), but it doesn't quite fit. Ah, no, it's ANSWERS, isn't it?

hS

[Nerwen]

DARK: Adding note to a vessel results in a failure to shed light.
MOUNTAIN: An isle without water about it.
SUN ON THE DAISIES: Flowers receive radiation. Sounds like it's a boy!
WIND: Exclamation from opening creates a tempest.
TIME: It stops everything from happening at once.
RING: An unwise thing to do at the Mewlips' door!
FISH: One who has no need for bicycles.

Theme: answers to the Riddle Game.

Nice work, Huey!

[Pervinca Took]

Nice password!

Was UIN strictly the island, though, or the whale moving it?

[Huinesoron]

Thanks, Nerwen - that was fun! I don't think I would have got it if I hadn't started off by quoting poetry in my first couple of answers.

Well, let's try this:

1. A proper plural and archaic form gives the black its English name.
2. Named for their master in the blackened green.
3. Known by where and what it is, home of gold.
4. Belted and counted; look three from the back.
5. Fear halved, an elementary rise for the new king.
6. Elvish fire, depart! The hammer begins to be cast by the river.
7. Firearms - the evil in the north.

hS

[Urwen]

5. Thorin (Fe=Iron)

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

5. Thorin (Fe=Iron)

You're entirely right about iron, and the dwarf association, but it's not Thorin.

I don't think there's any anagrams in this, though in general the clues are a bit looser than usual.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Maybe Meduseld for 3 ... mead-hall but also the golden hall?

6. NAR + GO ... is there a hammer called THROND?

Or maybe NAROG?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Maybe Meduseld for 3 ... mead-hall but also the golden hall?

6. NAR + GO ... is there a hammer called THROND?

Or maybe NAROG?

NAROG contains most of GROND... maybe that's the idea.

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

NAROG contains most of GROND... maybe that's the idea.

Yeah, I was in a rush (lunchtime). But I did think of Grond.

Wondering about FELAGUND for 5 .. FE + LA ... but can't account for 'gund' or 'rise.'

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

You're entirely right about iron, and the dwarf association, but it's not Thorin.

I don't think there's any anagrams in this, though in general the clues are a bit looser than usual.

hS

Dáin II, then? He was called Ironfoot and came from the Iron Hills, which could be an "elementary rise", I guess.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Maybe Meduseld for 3 ... mead-hall but also the golden hall?

6. NAR + GO ... is there a hammer called THROND?

Or maybe NAROG?

No - but there's one called Grond, which can be changed to have the beginning of 'be cast' - ie, THrow.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Dáin II, then? He was called Ironfoot and came from the Iron Hills, which could be an "elementary rise", I guess.

'Elementary' is indicating that 'Fe' is iron, but rise is indeed the hills, which are the answer (they are themselves for Dain).

1. A proper plural and archaic form gives the black its English name.
2. Named for their master in the blackened green.
3. Known by where and what it is, home of gold.
4. Belted and counted; look three from the back.
IRON HILLS - Fear halved, an elementary rise for the new king.
NARGOTHROND - Elvish fire, depart! The hammer begins to be cast by the river.
7. Firearms - the evil in the north.

hS

[Nerwen]

Huey... #7 isn't GUNDABAD ("guns are bad") is it?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Huey... #7 isn't GUNDABAD ("guns are bad") is it?

Oh come on - would I ever do something so crude?

1. A proper plural and archaic form gives the black its English name.
2. Named for their master in the blackened green.
3. Known by where and what it is, home of gold.
4. Belted and counted; look three from the back.
IRON HILLS - Fear halved, an elementary rise for the new king.
NARGOTHROND - Elvish fire, depart! The hammer begins to be cast by the river.
GUNDABAD - Firearms - the evil in the north.

^_^

hS

[Urwen]

Dwarven realms for the theme?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Dwarven realms for the theme?

No, but there is a reason so many of them are.

hS

[Nerwen]

Underground realms?