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Galadriel55 · 05-11-2011, 03:35 PM

Made by a man?

Absinthe · 05-12-2011, 12:54 PM

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.

Pitchwife · 05-12-2011, 01:59 PM

Made by (a) hobbit(s)?

Tuor in Gondolin · 05-12-2011, 03:16 PM

Made by an orc?

Galadriel55 · 05-12-2011, 03:38 PM

Is it a weapon?

Absinthe · 05-12-2011, 04:04 PM

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.
10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly
10a Made by an orc? Nope.
11, Weapon? No.

Galadriel55 · 05-12-2011, 05:15 PM

Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself?

Blind Guardian · 05-12-2011, 05:50 PM

Book?

Absinthe · 05-12-2011, 09:34 PM

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.
10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly
10a Made by an orc? Nope.
11, Weapon? No.
12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes.
12a book. no

12a Book. No

Galadriel55 · 05-12-2011, 09:41 PM

Hm Curious.

Is it something that an average hobbit would use frequently?

Absinthe · 05-12-2011, 10:01 PM

13. Something that the average hobbit would use frequently? Yes if the hobbits we know about are representative.

Pitchwife · 05-13-2011, 11:35 AM

Interesting answer to 12. Hmmm...
Is it Lobelia's umbrella?

Absinthe · 05-13-2011, 12:01 PM

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.
10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly
10a Made by an orc? Nope.
11, Weapon? No.
12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes.
12a book. no
13. Something that the average hobbit would use frequently? Yes if the hobbits we know about are representative.

14 Is it Lobelia's umbrella? No but that shows you have interpreted my reservation re Q12 in the right sort of way.

Pitchwife · 05-13-2011, 12:47 PM

Is it usually kept in a pocket?

Absinthe · 05-13-2011, 01:10 PM

1, Person? No
2, Place? Non
1a Person? Still no
3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps.
4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes
5, Made in first age? No
6, MAde by a mortal? Yes
7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely
8, Made in the second age? No
9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely.
10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly
10a Made by an orc? Nope.
11, Weapon? No.
12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes.
12a book. no
13. Something that the average hobbit would use frequently? Yes if the hobbits we know about are representative.

14 Is it Lobelia's umbrella? No but that shows you have interpreted my reservation re Q12 in the right sort of way.
15, Is it usually kept in a pocket. Yes that is a usual place to keep this sort of item

Pitchwife · 05-13-2011, 01:26 PM

OK then - is it a handkerchief? Like, say, the one Bilbo forgot to take along when he ran off with the Dwarves?

Galadriel55 · 05-13-2011, 05:09 PM

Pitch's guess is probably correct, but if not - a pouch of pipeweed?

Absinthe · 05-14-2011, 03:17 AM

16 Pocket handkerchief? No
17, Pouch of pipeweed ? No

Galadriel55 · 05-14-2011, 10:20 AM

Hmm. Some silver pennies or the like of them?

Absinthe · 05-14-2011, 10:48 AM

18 Silver pennies no...

Galadriel55 · 05-14-2011, 02:25 PM

I don't know then...

A pipe?

Absinthe · 05-14-2011, 04:27 PM

It is a pipe - but which?

Galadriel55 · 05-14-2011, 04:32 PM

Pippin's extra pipe that he gave to Gimli?

Absinthe · 05-14-2011, 04:41 PM

That's the one! And just on the wire. Your turn Galadriel. Well done.

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Galadriel55 · 05-14-2011, 05:34 PM

Thanks!

Ask away!

Absinthe · 05-16-2011, 05:53 AM

Hmmm Person?

Tuor in Gondolin · 05-16-2011, 08:10 AM

A place?

Galadriel55 · 05-16-2011, 11:58 AM

Person - no
Place - no

Kyranger · 05-16-2011, 02:59 PM

Object?

Galadriel55 · 05-16-2011, 04:03 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Object - yup

Tuor in Gondolin · 05-17-2011, 10:47 AM

Is it a geographical feature (river, mountain, lake, etc.)?

Galadriel55 · 05-17-2011, 04:46 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Object - yup
Geographical feature - no

Absinthe · 05-18-2011, 03:17 AM

Is the object portable? IE could be carried by one person of reasonable strength without great difficulty or awkwardness? (I wouldn't class a door as being portable since though I might be able to lift it I would have to unscrew it and it really needs two people to move it any distance)

Galadriel55 · 05-18-2011, 05:10 AM

Person - no
Place - no
Object - yup
Geographical feature - no
Portable - yes, very portable. Consider this a hint.

Kyranger · 05-18-2011, 05:44 AM

Made by an Elf?

Tuor in Gondolin · 05-18-2011, 06:53 AM

Can you hide it in your pocketses, we wonderss?

Absinthe · 05-18-2011, 07:39 AM

Carried by a character in Lord of the Rings?

Galadriel55 · 05-18-2011, 05:25 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Object - yup
Geographical feature - no
Portable - yes.
Made by an Elf - very unikely.
Can you hide it in your pockets - sure, it would fit, if that's what you mean.
Carried by a character in LOTR - no

Absinthe · 05-19-2011, 11:22 AM

I have a hunch but I don't want to risk it just yet in case I am embarassingly wrong so...

Does it appear in the Hobbit?

Galadriel55 · 05-19-2011, 05:08 PM

Person - no
Place - no
Object - yup
Geographical feature - no
Portable - yes.
Made by an Elf - very unikely.
Can you hide it in your pockets - sure, it would fit, if that's what you mean.
Carried by a character in LOTR - no
Appears in TH - yup!

05-11-2011, 03:35 PM	#6241
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Made by a man? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-12-2011, 12:54 PM	#6242
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	1, Person? No 2, Place? Non 1a Person? Still no 3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps. 4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes 5, Made in first age? No 6, MAde by a mortal? Yes 7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely 8, Made in the second age? No 9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely. __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-12-2011, 01:59 PM	#6243
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Made by (a) hobbit(s)? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-12-2011, 03:16 PM	#6244
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Made by an orc? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

05-12-2011, 03:38 PM	#6245
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Is it a weapon? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-12-2011, 04:04 PM	#6246
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	1, Person? No 2, Place? Non 1a Person? Still no 3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps. 4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes 5, Made in first age? No 6, MAde by a mortal? Yes 7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely 8, Made in the second age? No 9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely. 10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly 10a Made by an orc? Nope. 11, Weapon? No. __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-12-2011, 05:15 PM	#6247
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-12-2011, 09:34 PM	#6249
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	1, Person? No 2, Place? Non 1a Person? Still no 3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps. 4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes 5, Made in first age? No 6, MAde by a mortal? Yes 7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely 8, Made in the second age? No 9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely. 10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly 10a Made by an orc? Nope. 11, Weapon? No. 12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes. 12a book. no 12a Book. No __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-12-2011, 09:41 PM	#6250
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Hm Curious. Is it something that an average hobbit would use frequently? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-12-2011, 10:01 PM	#6251
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	13. Something that the average hobbit would use frequently? Yes if the hobbits we know about are representative. __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-13-2011, 11:35 AM	#6252
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Interesting answer to 12. Hmmm... Is it Lobelia's umbrella? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-13-2011, 12:01 PM	#6253
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	1, Person? No 2, Place? Non 1a Person? Still no 3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps. 4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes 5, Made in first age? No 6, MAde by a mortal? Yes 7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely 8, Made in the second age? No 9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely. 10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly 10a Made by an orc? Nope. 11, Weapon? No. 12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes. 12a book. no 13. Something that the average hobbit would use frequently? Yes if the hobbits we know about are representative. 14 Is it Lobelia's umbrella? No but that shows you have interpreted my reservation re Q12 in the right sort of way. __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-13-2011, 12:47 PM	#6254
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Is it usually kept in a pocket? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-13-2011, 01:10 PM	#6255
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	1, Person? No 2, Place? Non 1a Person? Still no 3, Object? Yes. Unsuprisingly perhaps. 4, Was it made by someone or some group? I am taking this as meaning was it a crafted/manufactured object? And the answer is Yes 5, Made in first age? No 6, MAde by a mortal? Yes 7, Made by a dwarf? No..well unlikely 8, Made in the second age? No 9, Made by a man? No, even more unlikely. 10, Made by a hobbit/hobbits? Yes, almost certainly 10a Made by an orc? Nope. 11, Weapon? No. 12,Is it a piece of clothing / anything that you put on yourself? No/ No, not if you mean something you would be described as wearing (eg armour/jewellery). But you could maybe interpret that question as needing the answer yes. 12a book. no 13. Something that the average hobbit would use frequently? Yes if the hobbits we know about are representative. 14 Is it Lobelia's umbrella? No but that shows you have interpreted my reservation re Q12 in the right sort of way. 15, Is it usually kept in a pocket. Yes that is a usual place to keep this sort of item __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-13-2011, 01:26 PM	#6256
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	OK then - is it a handkerchief? Like, say, the one Bilbo forgot to take along when he ran off with the Dwarves? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-13-2011, 05:09 PM	#6257
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Pitch's guess is probably correct, but if not - a pouch of pipeweed? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-14-2011, 03:17 AM	#6258
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	...but no... 16 Pocket handkerchief? No 17, Pouch of pipeweed ? No __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-14-2011, 10:20 AM	#6259
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	What do they have in their pocketses, my preciuosss??? Hmm. Some silver pennies or the like of them? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-14-2011, 10:48 AM	#6260
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	Getting further off now 18 Silver pennies no... __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-14-2011, 02:25 PM	#6261
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I don't know then... A pipe? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-14-2011, 04:27 PM	#6262
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	It is a pipe - but which? __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-14-2011, 04:32 PM	#6263
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Pippin's extra pipe that he gave to Gimli? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-14-2011, 04:41 PM	#6264
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	That's the one! And just on the wire. Your turn Galadriel. Well done. : __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-14-2011, 05:34 PM	#6265
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Thanks! Ask away! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-16-2011, 05:53 AM	#6266
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	Hmmm Person? __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-16-2011, 08:10 AM	#6267
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	A place? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

05-16-2011, 11:58 AM	#6268
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Person - no Place - no __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-16-2011, 02:59 PM	#6269
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Object?

05-16-2011, 04:03 PM	#6270
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Person - no Place - no Object - yup __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-17-2011, 10:47 AM	#6271
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Is it a geographical feature (river, mountain, lake, etc.)? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

05-17-2011, 04:46 PM	#6272
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Person - no Place - no Object - yup Geographical feature - no __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-18-2011, 03:17 AM	#6273
Absinthe Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in a bottle Posts: 45	Is the object portable? IE could be carried by one person of reasonable strength without great difficulty or awkwardness? (I wouldn't class a door as being portable since though I might be able to lift it I would have to unscrew it and it really needs two people to move it any distance) __________________ After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. Finally, you see things as they really are, which is the most horrible thing in the world

05-18-2011, 05:10 AM	#6274
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Person - no Place - no Object - yup Geographical feature - no Portable - yes, very portable. Consider this a hint. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-18-2011, 05:44 AM	#6275
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Made by an Elf?

05-18-2011, 06:53 AM	#6276
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Can you hide it in your pocketses, we wonderss? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'