6 Degrees of Separation - Page 15 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Telchar · 12-08-2003, 05:58 PM

Lotho ---> Thranduil

NO Hobbits!
NO Maier/ainur
Only one human
Only one elf

Lindolirian · 12-08-2003, 08:59 PM

Lotho-> Ruffian*-> Squint-eyed Southerner**-> Lord of the Nazgûl-> (Nazgûl shot down over Sarn Gebir)-> Legolas-> Thranduil

*who called Frodo a "cockawhoop"
**half orc at Prancing Pony

Telchar · 12-09-2003, 01:50 AM

Sorry, but no! Ruffians and Nazgul are both mannish in orgin. Try again.

It can actually be done with one regular human and one regular elf.

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-09-2003, 04:28 AM

Lotho-> Wormtongue-> Legolas -> Thranduil

One man, one Elf, keep moving. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-09-2003, 08:44 AM

Precisely Saucepans - my elf was Celeborn, but I forgot to put a restriction angainst 'direct family' - you can continue!

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-09-2003, 05:56 PM

Cheers Telch. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sheesh! It's getting hard to think these up. So here's a fairly easy one.

Glaurung -> Ancalagon

Assuming that Glaurung and Ancalagon were not themselves acquainted. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

And no Elves or Ainur.

Telchar · 12-09-2003, 06:04 PM

Is it as simple as:

Glaurung -> Turin -> Tuor -> Earendil -> Ancalagon ?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-09-2003, 07:48 PM

No. Turin and Tuor never met, and are not immediately related in the sense required by the rules.

Lindolirian · 12-09-2003, 09:45 PM

Actually Túrin and Tuor did meet at the ruin of Ivrin:
"Thus only for a moment, and never again, did the paths of those kinsmen, Túrin and Tuor, draw together."

And just in case that doesn't make Telchar's answer legit, I have one of my own.

Glaurung-> Mablung-> Fingolfin-> Thorondor-> Ancalagon

Mablung was at the Mereth Aderthad with Fingolfin and Thorondor carried Fingolfin's body away from the duel at the Gates of Angband.

Telchar · 12-10-2003, 01:32 AM

Glaurung-> Turin-> Hurin-> Thorondor-> Ancalagon

really long :

Glaurung-> Turin-> Hurin-> Huor -> Tuor -> Earendil -> Ancalagon

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-10-2003, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Thus only for a moment, and never again, did the paths of those kinsmen, Túrin and Tuor, draw together.

Being in the same vicinity doesn't count as interaction for me. I'm not sure that they were even aware of each other, were they?

Of course, if I was being really mean, I could rule Thorondor out as possibly being a Maia. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

But I won't, so Lindol has it (although you gave the two formulations that I had, Telchar). Plese proceed, Lindolirian. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-10-2003, 02:52 PM

Please:

Quote:

And no Elves or Ainur.

Quote:

Glaurung-> Mablung-> Fingolfin-> Thorondor-> Ancalagon

Quote:

But I won't, so Lindol has it (although you gave the two formulations that I had, Telchar). Plese proceed, Lindolirian.

You're forgetting your own restrictions Saucepanman + If my last one was actually made to fit the thought that Thorondor might be considered a maiar-spirit - wherefore I stand by:

Glaurung-> Turin-> Hurin-> Huor -> Tuor -> Earendil -> Ancalagon

Which does not in ANY way contain ainur OR LET ME SEE TWO ELVES ????
[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-10-2003, 04:53 PM

By Jove, you are right old chap! I knew that there was a reason for me placing a restriction on those dratted Elves. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Sorry, Lindol, but Telchar has the right of it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-10-2003, 06:04 PM

Cemendur -> Lobelia

... any which way you want!

Lindolirian · 12-10-2003, 09:05 PM

Cemendur-> Meneldil-> Isildur-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Lobelia

BTW good catch there Telchar. I hadn't checked this thread until now, so I didn't even know I "had" it. Phooey... forgot about dem dang Elves [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Telchar · 12-11-2003, 01:31 AM

Yeah [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Dang elves! You are of course correct - go on.

Lindolirian · 12-11-2003, 04:34 PM

Lomion->Ondoher
No Ainur

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 5:34 PM December 11, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Nilpaurion Felagund · 12-16-2003, 03:29 AM

Lomion->Idril->Eärendil->Elrond-?>Arvedui->Ondoher

-?> = a questionable link. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 12-16-2003, 12:39 PM

Nope. This one has the full six separations. (->) Seven people.

Finwe · 12-17-2003, 10:48 AM

Lomion -> Idril -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Valandil -> Arvedui -> Ondoher

Lindolirian · 12-18-2003, 05:34 PM

O sure... I'll let ya have it. Its not quite the one I had, but go ahead.

Finwe · 12-21-2003, 02:18 PM

Ok...hmm... this one is going to be a bit snarky.

Turin -> Dior

Lindolirian · 12-21-2003, 08:14 PM

Snarky? There must be some limitations that you forgot because it's as easy as
Turin-> Thingol-> Luthien-> Dior

or a more "snarky" version:
Turin-> Morwen-> Baragund-> Barahir-> Beren-> Dior

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 10:00 AM

This falls under the definition of a stagnant thread, correct, since "no response has been given by the question setter to the last answer" for at least 10 days?

I assume Lindolirian's answer is correct, but I shall ask a new one:

Mim --> Elwing

Amanaduial the archer · 01-02-2004, 10:36 AM

Mim-> Turin-> Thingol ->Luthien-> Dior-> Elwing

?

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 10:41 AM

Yes, that is what I was looking for. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] You could have left out Luthien, too, since Dior is Thingol's heir.

Your turn.

Amanaduial the archer · 01-02-2004, 01:28 PM

*Shrugs* It seemed better to have six, just bearing in mind the title [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Feanor-> Dior

Ruitha · 01-02-2004, 01:38 PM

Feanor -> Galadriel -> Celeborn -> Galathil -> Nimloth -> Dior??

Amanaduial the archer · 01-02-2004, 01:44 PM

Not the way I was looking for but yes, that works.

Your turn [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ruitha · 01-02-2004, 01:49 PM

*grins* ... hehe, just realised I could've done that one with 3 names rather than that roundabout way ... okay, um, thinking...

Ruitha · 01-02-2004, 02:04 PM

Miriel (the daughter of Tar-Palantir) -> Eilinel

maximum of 5 names...

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 02:11 PM

Well we are supposed to avoid the use of Sauron, since he is connected with almost everyone, so this could be more than a little bit tricky. Actually, now that I look at it, I do not think I can do it without using Sauron. If I did use him, it would look something like this

Miriel->Ar-Pharazon->Sauron->Barahir->Eilinel

Otherwise, I am stumped.

Ruitha · 01-02-2004, 02:17 PM

Ah! Sorry, I forgot about not using Sauron ... didn't read the rules carefully enough. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Yeah, yours was the same as mine, save that I replaced Barahir with Gorlim. Go ahead. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
(Sorry again! Just like me to mess up the first one I do on this thread...)

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 02:21 PM

Don't worry about it Ruitha [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] , the first five or six times I attempted to post in the "Quiz Room" or "Quotable Quotes," I was informed by a more knowledgeable member of the Barrow Downs that I had, in fact, violated Forum Policy. Yours however, was not a very grievous mistake since it simply says try not to use Sauron, Gandalf or Saruman.

Here's mine:

Deorwine-->Dwalin

Finwe · 01-02-2004, 02:29 PM

Deorwine -> Eomer -> Theoden -> Merry -> Frodo -> Bilbo -> Dwalin

Will that work?

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 02:32 PM

Not exactly what I was looking for, since I do not know if Bilbo had any direct relationship with Dwalin, and since that is seven people. Keep trying! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ruitha · 01-02-2004, 04:54 PM

Deorwine -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Gimli -> Gloin -> Dwalin?

Lord of Angmar · 01-02-2004, 05:53 PM

Good job, Ruitha! That works well enough.

The one I had thought of was:

Deorwine-->Theoden-->Aragorn-->Bilbo-->Balin-->Dwalin

Your turn.

Ruitha · 01-03-2004, 05:40 AM

Okay, try:
Urwen -> Sam
Maximum of 7 names, and no Elves, eagles, or dragons...

nobody · 01-03-2004, 06:12 AM

Urwen->Húrin->Morgoth->Ungoliant->Shelob->Sam

12-08-2003, 05:58 PM	#561
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Lotho ---> Thranduil NO Hobbits! NO Maier/ainur Only one human Only one elf __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-08-2003, 08:59 PM	#562
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Lotho-> Ruffian-> Squint-eyed Southerner-> Lord of the Nazgûl-> (Nazgûl shot down over Sarn Gebir)-> Legolas-> Thranduil who called Frodo a "cockawhoop" **half orc at Prancing Pony __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-09-2003, 01:50 AM	#563
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Sorry, but no! Ruffians and Nazgul are both mannish in orgin. Try again. It can actually be done with one regular human and one regular elf. __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-09-2003, 04:28 AM	#564
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Lotho-> Wormtongue-> Legolas -> Thranduil One man, one Elf, keep moving. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-09-2003, 08:44 AM	#565
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Precisely Saucepans - my elf was Celeborn, but I forgot to put a restriction angainst 'direct family' - you can continue! __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-09-2003, 05:56 PM	#566
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Cheers Telch. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Sheesh! It's getting hard to think these up. So here's a fairly easy one. Glaurung -> Ancalagon Assuming that Glaurung and Ancalagon were not themselves acquainted. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] And no Elves or Ainur. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-09-2003, 06:04 PM	#567
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Is it as simple as: Glaurung -> Turin -> Tuor -> Earendil -> Ancalagon ? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-09-2003, 07:48 PM	#568
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	No. Turin and Tuor never met, and are not immediately related in the sense required by the rules. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-09-2003, 09:45 PM	#569
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Actually Túrin and Tuor did meet at the ruin of Ivrin: "Thus only for a moment, and never again, did the paths of those kinsmen, Túrin and Tuor, draw together." And just in case that doesn't make Telchar's answer legit, I have one of my own. Glaurung-> Mablung-> Fingolfin-> Thorondor-> Ancalagon Mablung was at the Mereth Aderthad with Fingolfin and Thorondor carried Fingolfin's body away from the duel at the Gates of Angband. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-10-2003, 01:32 AM	#570
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Glaurung-> Turin-> Hurin-> Thorondor-> Ancalagon really long : Glaurung-> Turin-> Hurin-> Huor -> Tuor -> Earendil -> Ancalagon __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-10-2003, 04:53 PM	#573
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	By Jove, you are right old chap! I knew that there was a reason for me placing a restriction on those dratted Elves. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Sorry, Lindol, but Telchar has the right of it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

12-10-2003, 06:04 PM	#574
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Cemendur -> Lobelia ... any which way you want! __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-10-2003, 09:05 PM	#575
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Cemendur-> Meneldil-> Isildur-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Lobelia BTW good catch there Telchar. I hadn't checked this thread until now, so I didn't even know I "had" it. Phooey... forgot about dem dang Elves [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-11-2003, 01:31 AM	#576
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Yeah [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Dang elves! You are of course correct - go on. __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-11-2003, 04:34 PM	#577
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Lomion->Ondoher No Ainur <font size=1 color=339966>[ 5:34 PM December 11, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-16-2003, 03:29 AM	#578
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Lomion->Idril->Eärendil->Elrond-?>Arvedui->Ondoher -?> = a questionable link. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

12-16-2003, 12:39 PM	#579
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Nope. This one has the full six separations. (->) Seven people. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-17-2003, 10:48 AM	#580
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Lomion -> Idril -> Eärendil -> Elrond -> Valandil -> Arvedui -> Ondoher __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-18-2003, 05:34 PM	#581
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	O sure... I'll let ya have it. Its not quite the one I had, but go ahead. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-21-2003, 02:18 PM	#582
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Ok...hmm... this one is going to be a bit snarky. Turin -> Dior __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-21-2003, 08:14 PM	#583
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Snarky? There must be some limitations that you forgot because it's as easy as Turin-> Thingol-> Luthien-> Dior or a more "snarky" version: Turin-> Morwen-> Baragund-> Barahir-> Beren-> Dior __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

01-02-2004, 10:00 AM	#584
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	This falls under the definition of a stagnant thread, correct, since "no response has been given by the question setter to the last answer" for at least 10 days? I assume Lindolirian's answer is correct, but I shall ask a new one: Mim --> Elwing __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 10:36 AM	#585
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,347	Mim-> Turin-> Thingol ->Luthien-> Dior-> Elwing ? __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

01-02-2004, 10:41 AM	#586
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Yes, that is what I was looking for. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] You could have left out Luthien, too, since Dior is Thingol's heir. Your turn. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 01:28 PM	#587
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,347	Shrugs It seemed better to have six, just bearing in mind the title [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Feanor-> Dior __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

01-02-2004, 01:38 PM	#588
Ruitha Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 54	Feanor -> Galadriel -> Celeborn -> Galathil -> Nimloth -> Dior?? __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear.)

01-02-2004, 01:44 PM	#589
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,347	Not the way I was looking for but yes, that works. Your turn [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

01-02-2004, 01:49 PM	#590
Ruitha Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 54	grins ... hehe, just realised I could've done that one with 3 names rather than that roundabout way ... okay, um, thinking... __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear.)

01-02-2004, 02:04 PM	#591
Ruitha Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 54	Miriel (the daughter of Tar-Palantir) -> Eilinel maximum of 5 names... __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear.)

01-02-2004, 02:11 PM	#592
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Well we are supposed to avoid the use of Sauron, since he is connected with almost everyone, so this could be more than a little bit tricky. Actually, now that I look at it, I do not think I can do it without using Sauron. If I did use him, it would look something like this Miriel->Ar-Pharazon->Sauron->Barahir->Eilinel Otherwise, I am stumped. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 02:17 PM	#593
Ruitha Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 54	Ah! Sorry, I forgot about not using Sauron ... didn't read the rules carefully enough. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Yeah, yours was the same as mine, save that I replaced Barahir with Gorlim. Go ahead. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] (Sorry again! Just like me to mess up the first one I do on this thread...) __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear.)

01-02-2004, 02:21 PM	#594
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Don't worry about it Ruitha [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] , the first five or six times I attempted to post in the "Quiz Room" or "Quotable Quotes," I was informed by a more knowledgeable member of the Barrow Downs that I had, in fact, violated Forum Policy. Yours however, was not a very grievous mistake since it simply says try not to use Sauron, Gandalf or Saruman. Here's mine: Deorwine-->Dwalin __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 02:29 PM	#595
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Deorwine -> Eomer -> Theoden -> Merry -> Frodo -> Bilbo -> Dwalin Will that work? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-02-2004, 02:32 PM	#596
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	Not exactly what I was looking for, since I do not know if Bilbo had any direct relationship with Dwalin, and since that is seven people. Keep trying! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.

01-02-2004, 04:54 PM	#597
Ruitha Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 54	Deorwine -> Eomer -> Aragorn -> Gimli -> Gloin -> Dwalin? __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear.)