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05-14-2020, 03:40 PM | #561 |
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Hello Pitch! Welcome! Nogs has created such a convivial setting for us here in the Great Hall...have a drink and make yourself comfortable...
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05-14-2020, 03:42 PM | #562 |
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At least we don't have Walls of Text. Well, not many.
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05-14-2020, 03:43 PM | #563 |
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And yes...I want to know too...who is the Seer? Pitch, what do you think?
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05-14-2020, 03:45 PM | #564 |
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You didn't see it? It's ++Brinniel.
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05-14-2020, 03:47 PM | #565 |
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Well, as of yesterDay, I obviously thought it was Rune, which is why I didn't want to lynch him. But Boro would have been my alternative candidate before his explanation toDay.
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05-14-2020, 03:48 PM | #566 |
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I'd like to see your face if she actually was.
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05-14-2020, 03:49 PM | #567 |
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Remind me at the end of the game, I'll spill the beans.
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05-14-2020, 03:57 PM | #568 |
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Boro is reminding me of a game where I was the Seer, pretending to be a cobbler-pretending-to-be-an-ordo-pretending-to-be-the-Seer-pretending-to-be-the-cobbler. The only reason that game worked out at all was because Shasta!Ranger had his psychic abilities on point.
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(Also, if you're interested in expanding your expletive vocabulary you should watch Farscape.)
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05-14-2020, 04:10 PM | #570 |
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Blast from the past
OMG my first WW game ever and you totally flew under my radar until the last Day (I was long dead by then)!
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Edit: it's not accepting caps again. Had to fix smiley.
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05-14-2020, 04:13 PM | #572 |
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I think that was the first time I played with Lal. I got lynched, but my packmates won out.
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05-14-2020, 04:13 PM | #573 |
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Also Lommy, debacle =/= debate!
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05-14-2020, 04:15 PM | #574 |
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Eönwë is really going after Boro right now, and the question is, which one's right there? I kinda agree with Lottie on that Steve looks like he made a slip there. But my brain is so overcombined at this point that I'm very careful.
Whichever the case, I think one of them might go toDay.
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05-14-2020, 04:15 PM | #575 |
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When I was unquarantined and would see new posts on this thread, I would tell myself you all were earnestly discussing the GT.
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05-14-2020, 04:16 PM | #576 |
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I am sitting across the table from her, laughing at this, but I can't communicate this, no preciouss, that would be against the Rules!
So I will just go with laughing.
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Yes, though Wolf-on-Wolf voting essentially had to happen at some point in this game, given the amount of Wolves. I guess the next lynched baddie may be important to help us determine what's going on. I kinda hope it to be soon. It could be Steve...
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05-14-2020, 04:21 PM | #581 |
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I think it's pretty dramatic but pretty genuine. Of course it may be a genuine Wolf frustrated at wondering about "Night kill or not to Night kill" for several Nights (although to be fair, Wolves probably should jump on even the possibility of getting a Seer asap).
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05-14-2020, 04:25 PM | #582 | |
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05-14-2020, 04:28 PM | #583 |
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Steve's getting in the thick of things now.
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05-14-2020, 04:31 PM | #584 |
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What would that really accomplish? And if he doesn't think it matters, why bring it up?
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05-14-2020, 04:36 PM | #585 | |
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Yeah, curious too. Makes no sense.
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05-14-2020, 04:45 PM | #586 |
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Okay, so Steve explained himself the same way I expected him to. (Basically that the whole thing was under the umbrella of "assuming Boro is a Wolf and made a slip telling us whom he knows to be innocent".)
But unless he comes out as the Seer, I am still confused. But! There is also truth to the fact that the village is running out of Days. Mislynch twice and it's bad. I'm wondering whether some bold Wolves (Boro-ishly?) might not be counting on that. If someone makes a false Seer claim under these circumstances (especially toMorrow!), it may cost us the Day we don't have. I hope the real Seer recognises this. Anyway, I may need to go to sleep soon. But I hope those who are around will keep watch over the thread and ideally mull over any really important-looking posts or events.
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05-14-2020, 05:40 PM | #587 |
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Lommy's hyperbole has me in stitches. :')
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05-14-2020, 06:08 PM | #588 |
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I volunteer to be Lommy's Infirmary Bar counterpart, sans censorship.
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05-14-2020, 06:18 PM | #589 |
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It's Boro, he is just doing this "I am an Ordo who *pretended* to be a Seer" thing to save his bottom.
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05-14-2020, 06:18 PM | #590 |
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Or Brin. One of the Bs.
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05-14-2020, 06:29 PM | #591 |
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Popcorn with your poison, anyone?
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05-14-2020, 08:03 PM | #592 |
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So, I hate typing on my phone so for now I'll just say: I think Boro is innocent - the way he's playing wouldn't pay off for a wolf - and Eonwe looks like a cornered wolf slipping bits of nightly conversation into the day. Like he thinks he's doomed, fellows are likely distancing from him ... But I'm just watching to see what develops
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05-14-2020, 08:06 PM | #593 |
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Well, I sure feel like a fool now.
Trying to untangle this. If Boro is not a wolf, then how did the wolves know he's not the real seer? Did they miss his hints? It's seems like a number of people picked them up, so could a group of three people have been that oblivious? Seems unlikely. There must've been absolutely no doubt to them that Boro was bluffing, because if they had any doubt at all, they would've killed Boro at some point, since it's just not worth the risk for them. The obvious answer is that Lommy and/or Brinn have to be a wolf, but is there anything else I'm missing? Because if I'm not, then there's a guaranteed wolf among Boro, Lommy, and Brinn. My gut feeling tells me that Lommy is innocent. And what are we to do with Eonwe? He doesn't make too much sense, but he feels genuine to me. It doesn't give me cornered wolf vibes and some people's suspicions have a scapegoaty feel to me. Am I completely off here? There are too many living people we haven't heard from yet, Brinniel most of all. |
05-14-2020, 08:28 PM | #594 |
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If Eonwe is a wolf and he's slipping that he knows that Lommy and Brinn are innocent, then Boro is a wolf.
Unless he's lying and he's actually a wolf together with Lommy and/or Brinn. Am I making sense? I'm not sure whether I'm making sense anymore in this game... |
05-14-2020, 09:38 PM | #595 |
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I was making a reply and halfway through I changed my mind about everyone.
Going back to reread some stuff (no, Lommy, you're not the only one rereading day 1 at this late date!) Just - a couple of things that are different about this game: 1. Normally seers need to leave some kind of a trail in case they die. Now, the seer can basically speak from beyond the grave, meaning they're free to submarine completely, misdirect, whatever they need to do to survive. 2. Normally sacrificing two wolves in a wild plot to trap the seer would be foolish, but this pack has, basically, two spare wolves, and the seer is more dangerous than usual as in #1. So with that in mind, to reread. |
05-14-2020, 10:22 PM | #596 |
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I don't know about you all, but I think anyone who posts massive walls of texts should be invited in here and taught the meaning of brevity.
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Okay, so, I mentioned a couple days ago (for the latecomers, it was #265 in this thread) how Boro was interacting with G55 on day 1.
Okay, maybe I wasn't completely explicit about that because of an annoying insect buzzing in my ear at the time, but yeah. First Boro talks some nonsense prominently featuring the words "in-character" and "unconscious" and "nightmares" (translation: "hey, I'm not the seer but I play one on TV"?) and then mentions waiting for someone to cough. Quote:
(Seriously, I an never going to skim over Day 1 banter again) Then she asks him: Quote:
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When I read all this a few days ago I interpreted it as a good Boro reeling in the cobbler but you can also read it straightforwardly, as a wolf making contact with a cobbler. And also note that Boro acted disappointed by the QT vote on day 2 ("not what I expected or hoped to see") which makes no sense whatsoever from an innocent Boro. Not saying I'm convinced he's a wolf, but given the points in my last post I can see how he could be. Also, Eönwë's comment toDay about people who questioned Boro's seerishness getting night killed ... it was a good point. It also felt (like a lot of what Eönwë says, actually) like wolf-logic. I mean, yes, yes, you have to think like a wolf to catch wolves, I know, Mac, but thinking like a wolf is easiest and most natural to, you know, wolves, and a wolf-Eönwë sacrificing Boro as planned could very well point out (a select portion of) actual wolf strategy in the process. {could even be a sample of genuine wolf strategy without a Boro wolf - if they knew Boro was not the seer because he was blatantly wrong about something. they could still have tried to pick up on seer reactions to him) Now, voting for either Boro or Eönwë toDay feels way too risky to me at this point. Eönwë was also the counter-wagon to Lhuna, and if anyone is acting like a seer who dreamed wolf-Boro toDay, it would be him. One or both is a wolf, one or both could be the seer, either could be on the chopping block toDay and I don't like it. Let's vote for Kath. Inzil's revenge! |
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05-14-2020, 11:19 PM | #598 |
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++Brinniel is still an option. It always has been.
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05-15-2020, 04:19 AM | #599 |
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So many of the Lost Play players are here - it feels like we've put the band back together again!
I went back and skim-read the game - I'd forgotten about that hideous last day with the coin toss - Rikae, Nogs and me... Anyway, Zil, have you seen Lommy's analysis of you? Do you think it's a fair appraisal and that it is highlighting everything that's relevant? I ask because I went over mine wondering if she was skimming over/omitting anything interesting and I couldn't find much, which to me kind of points to her innocence. Wolves usually miss stuff out, particularly when the person being analysed isn't around to point out errors/omissions. (She did mess up her appraisal of me when I was still around and I jumped on it)
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