Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread)

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Why is Wilwa only semi-known?

For the same reason as the others: one of them might have been turned since.

Er... why do you only ask about Wilwa?

EDIT:clarity.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

For the same reason as the others: they all might have been turned since.

Er... why do you only ask about Wilwa?

Because I always get confused about the nicknames for Inziladun and Isabellkya.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Too big an assumption, I think. I mean, it's logical, and I wouldn't write off Zil as a non-wolf yet– but as you say yourself, being hard to lynch is only one reason people get Night-killed. In the case of Nienna and Brinn, at any rate, it looks to me like the wolves were after possible gifteds (actual, in Ni's case).

I know. That's likely true. Votes are just easier for me to analyse for possibilities. I have no clue what the wolves might be seeing in peoples posts, especially with the votes working the way they are (with us all getting so many) quite a few people could have looked seer-ish to the wolves. I'm sure if we looked through everyone's posts close enough we could find something on everyone that makes them look like a gifted, it's all about what the wolves saw and what's going through their head. I never thought for a second that Brinn could be a gifted, so they obviously saw something I didn't see. Just like the first few Days I thought Nog might be gifted. See what I mean?

Gah. Why can't wolves just always kill people based on who's hardest to lynch? Would make my life so much easier .

x'ed with Nerwen and Rune, and maybe more back on page 14.

[Inziladun]

If you all don't think I'm necessarily on the level, perhaps you should ask yourselves why I was suspecting Lottie heavily yesterDay, and toDay also, before Fea's reveal.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

I know. That's likely true. Votes are just easier for me to analyse for possibilities. I have no clue what the wolves might be seeing in peoples posts, especially with the votes working the way they are (with us all getting so many) quite a few people could have looked seer-ish to the wolves. I'm sure if we looked through everyone's posts close enough we could find something on everyone that makes them look like a gifted, it's all about what the wolves saw and what's going through their head. I never thought for a second that Brinn could be a gifted, so they obviously saw something I didn't see. Just like the first few Days I thought Nog might be gifted. See what I mean?

Oh, I'm not suggesting we just look for people the wolves might have thought were the seer either. I was just making the point that, unfortunately, I don't think it's going to be as simple as what you were suggesting. It's hard enough to work out why wolves killed someone when you know who that someone was.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

If you all don't think I'm necessarily on the level, perhaps you should ask yourselves why I was suspecting Lottie heavily yesterDay, and toDay also, before Fea's reveal.

Well, I could have made the same point about myself– but I suppose, in theory at least, one of us could have been making a ruthless wolf-on-wolf attack. Something either of us could pull off, I believe. Really, you should take it as a compliment.

However, I'd say a better starting point would be to look for someone whose behaviour, especially regarding the known wolves, changed in some way after the no-kill Night. And look at the wolves, too– did they suddenly support anyone? Did they "suspect" anyone in a way that seemed forced?

Of course, Lottie and Nog possibly had too much on there plates to pay much attention to their fellow that Day anyway, but still, I think it's worth checking out.

EDIT:added comment.
EDIT2:Grammar and stuff. I WAS tired when I wrote this!

[Nerwen]

I have to go now, though. I'll be back later.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, I could have made the same point about myself– but I suppose, in theory at least, one of us could have been pulling off a ruthless wolf-on-wolf attack. Something either of us could pull of, I believe. Really, you should take it as a compliment.

You're probably right in that it could be done, but why, especially after Nog's demise? Today you said:

Well, regardless of exactly what's going on, I suggest that no-one vote Lottie toDay.

Would a Nerwolf have said that before Fea's reveal, knowing the evil forces were down to just her and Lottie?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

However, I'd say a better starting point would be to look for someone whose behaviour, especially regarding the known wolves, changed in some way after the no-kill Night. And look at the wolves, too– did they suddenly support anyone? Did they "suspect" anyone in a way that seemed forced?

That's really the best chance at spotting the Cursed, barring another one in the bullseye for Fea toNight.

[Isabellkya]

That is half good that we know for certain there is a new wolf.
I wasn't planning on voting for Loslote anyhow.

I don't see any reason to not trust Fea. Though I still don't trust Wilwa.

++Fea

I have to vote ridiculously early toDay, and probably won't be around a whole lot - due to a busybusy schedule.

The turned wolf, who would Nog/Loslote/Glirdan pick as the person to turn. Or, well. The turning was the Night after Glirdan was lynched. So who would Nog/Loslote of picked to turn? Someone whom was looking innocent, and not suspected.Form? Inziladun? Or a quiet, unknown. Off the top of my head, I do recall Nog going after nerwen yesterDay. I don't believe he had much in the way to say about Rune, other than he voted for him I believe. An attempt to save a new turned wolf? Or going against Nerwen as the newly turned?

[satansaloser2005]

Announcement

Per yesterday, the following people have one point added to their score for the Day.

Nerwen
Steve

They, along with Fea and Izzy, correctly guessed the reason for the names of the wolves.

Oh, and Form gets a point because it's his birthday and we love him. ^_^


Which puts the Moddess-Driven Tally Bonus to:
Nerwen +1
Steve +1
Form +1


No word from Simon yet but I'll put it up when Dun tells me.

[wilwarin538]

Moddess-Driven Tally Bonus

I read this as Moddess-Driven Sally Bonus.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

I read this as Moddess-Driven Sally Bonus.

Tehe. Same difference.

[Eönwë]

Another wolf? And we were just getting so close...

And maybe that's why Nogwolf tried to downplay the idea of 5 wolves yesterDay...

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well enough for me for the time being, as the chance these both claims could be untrue is that we have now three wolves instead of two (it would mean we have had five wolves in a village of just 16 and I'd say that would be really unfair from Sally!) - or a very acute cobbler (which is possible even if not that believable).

Ok, so I've never played a game with Cursed Villager before. Do they if they are one?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Ok, so I've never played a game with Cursed Villager before. Do they --Know-- if they are one?

I assume you meant to have a "know" in there.

In any game I have ever played, they did not know... but Sally has been known to make up her own rules before... but I'm pretty sure the poem said they "knew not" what they were.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the birthday boy

In any game I have ever played, they did not know... but Sally has been known to make up her own rules before... but I'm pretty sure the poem said they "knew not" what they were.

Ah, but who says the poem referenced the cursed?

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Ah, but who says the poem referenced the cursed?

Yeah, because the poem says:

Now do not forget this special role
For it is not known to the one who it holds
The One-Hit Wonder, them you should not fear
Their power is great, and their logic is clear

So from this I assume that the One-Hit Wonder is on our side- we have a lot of reason to fear a cursed villager.

edit: and yes, I did mean that Form.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Nerwen
Lottie - Wolf
Fea - Seer
Rune
Eonwe
Inzil
Wilwa - Innocent
Izzy - Innocent
Form - Presumed Innocent because of Lovers (people may disagree with this assumption, but it's what I think)

Now I know I still want to think Inzil innocent because of what Form said about Nienna's Hunt choices, but that happened before the Cursed so he may not be innocent anymore.

But it's same with you and Izzy. If you believe Form, why you should you two get the innocent label but not Inzil?

I don't like this at all...

[satansaloser2005]

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do





Now back to retroactively killing people. ^_^


EDIT: x'd with Steve's last

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, and I want to be on page 16 in the next hour. There may be a cookie if you succeed or a modwrath if you don't. *beams, skips away*

[alonariel]

I'm leaving for Chem lab soon, but should be back around two hours before DL tonight (don't have work keeping me away today).

Fea - 3
Form - 2
Nerwen - 1
Steve - 1
Lottie - 0
Rune - 0
Zil - 0
Wilwa - 0
Izzy - 0

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

the reason for the names of the wolves.

Ah, but though they've been bad, the wolves haven't been very smooth criminals this game have they?

[Formendacil]

Okay, so it's worth mentioning that with a birthday today, I'm sort of only half here, mentally, and will be gone for most of the hours leading up to the deadline. I'm here now... and will in and out regularly for the next couple hours... but I'm a bit scatterbrained. Probably going to respond better to stimulus than I'll be putting it out myself.

I'm also thoroughly confused by Sally's special roles, secrecy, and poems... for someone who wants to study and teach English Literature, I'm not a super poesy-person. I'm also discounting Sally as evidence, for the most part, about her own roles. She's cheeky enough to say anything.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Ah, but though they've been bad, the wolves haven't been very smooth criminals this game have they?

The temptation to give you an extra point is almost too much....

Almost.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

*snickers*

Saaaaaalllllly. Is it time yet?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

*snickers*

Saaaaaalllllly. Is it time yet?

Yes, my precious. Oh, so very yes.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

they, along with Fea and Izzy, correctly guessed the reason for the names of the wolves.

The reason is blocked in "my country"

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

I read this as Moddess-Driven Sally Bonus.

Who is this "Sally" you all talk about?

Anyways I just wanted to let you know that I am here now and should remain so until the deadline, or thereabout.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I am the seer. Lottie is a Wolf.

Stupid pen-pal. Told you, pack-mate, told you...

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

I like snuggles
I really like snuggles
I like snuggles
I really really do

Now back to retroactively killing people. ^_^

*snuggles Miss Mod*

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

*snickers*

Saaaaaalllllly. Is it time yet?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Yes, my precious. Oh, so very yes.

Should I be worried? ... well, yes, I should, but should I be even more worried?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Yeah, Fea's right.

I even hinted 'cause I didn't think I'd survive! Don't I rock?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

DUN DUN DUN.

It is now time for my event.

The first person to answer the following question correctly will receive a power that must be activated today (they'll be PMed).

Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

Hint: "Lovers" is incorrect. By "true neutral" I mean a role that can win with either side.

[Formendacil]

Okay... so Lottie's a wolf. Obviously, we need to kill her. Otherwise, we may as well ignore her and look for the last wolf--unless she's planning to tell us who it is... but obviously we'll want to take that with a grain of salt.

[Loslote]

Whatcha gonna do when your packmate's dreamed of?
Who you gonna kill when the Seer reveals?
Yeah, how you gonna cope when there is no pming?
Where you gonna turn to try to blend in?
How you gonna make it through when you think you've lost your chance?

Play on when you're losing the game
Play on 'cause we're bound to make mistakes
It's always worth the sacrifice
Even when you know you're alone
So play on, play on

Even when the voting dries right up
Never let the pressure freeze you up
Even when you're not sure you'll survive
Swimming through a mess and you can't get out
Just going through the motions and trying not to slip

Play on when you're losing the game
Play on 'cause we're bound to make mistakes
It's always worth the sacrifice
Even when you know I'm gone
So play on, play on

Even through a storm on the darkest Night
Don't you ever give up the fight
Even if you know you're all alone
Play on, play on

Play on when you're losing the game
Play on 'cause we're bound to make mistakes
It's always worth the sacrifice
Even when you know you're alone
So play on, play on

Play on
Ooh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Na, na, na, na, na, na,
Na, na, na, na, na, na

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

DUN DUN DUN.

It is now time for my event.

The first person to answer the following question correctly will receive a power that must be activated today (they'll be PMed).

Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

Hint: "Lovers" is incorrect. By "true neutral" I mean a role that can win with either side.

Switzerland?
Sweden?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Okay... so Lottie's a wolf. Obviously, we need to kill her. Otherwise, we may as well ignore her and look for the last wolf--unless she's planning to tell us who it is... but obviously we'll want to take that with a grain of salt.

It's you! It's always you, no matter who's reading this, so vote me, because you're my packmate!

And if that does not make you frown or think at all...epic Lottie fail.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Okay... so Lottie's a wolf. Obviously, we need to kill her. Otherwise, we may as well ignore her and look for the last wolf--unless she's planning to tell us who it is... but obviously we'll want to take that with a grain of salt.

No no no! Don't ignore me! I am exciting! Honestly, would I lie?

[satansaloser2005]

Little Lottie let her mind wander....

But it was too small to be out on its own and it got ran over by a meat truck.

Poor little Lottie.

[Formendacil]

I would argue the Mythomaniac.

Some might say the Cobbler.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Name the first singular "true neutral" role in the history of Werewolf on the Barrow-Downs.

Mithalwen the Grey Queen?

[Loslote]

Nerwen - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Lottie - I like the name Candy more than Killer. Sally? Care to accomodate?
Fea - Evil, evil pen-pal. I bite my thumb in your general direction!
Rune - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Steve - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Zil - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!
Wilwa - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Izzy - A wolf! So furry! Lynch her!
Form - A wolf! So furry! Lynch him!

One of these is Killer (please, Sally? I wanna be Candy! ) and I don't really feel like telling you which. Cookies or votes may inspire me to change my mind.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Little Lottie let her mind wander....

But it was too small to be out on its own and it got ran over by a meat truck.

Poor little Lottie.

Ooh exciting!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

I would argue the Mythomaniac.

Some might say the Cobbler.

Cobbler is incorrect, and as for Mythomaniac... it's not a role I've heard of! If you can show me it and it turns out to be correct, you'll win, Form.

[Eönwë]

Or is it Gray Queen to you Americans?