Werewolf XXX - Tol-in-Elendili - The Isle of the Were-Faithfuls

[Mithalwen]

Having just read through his posts .. I am inclined to think Gil innocent ..but then I said that about TGWBS......

[Lalaith]

That Glirdan error was what swung it for me vis a vis Gil. I just don't think he would have fabricated such a misunderstanding.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, I am back and seeing nothing much has changed. The quiet village seems somewhat... scary.

SpM - I am still reluctant to accuse him as a Faithful because others do; I don't know: on first sight, SpM looks like a good cheery fellow who tries to help the village very actively, bringing up points, posting lists etc. If this is not a covered Faithfullishness but merely an attempt to help, then, I wouldn't like to thin our numbers by mistake. Though the way tgwbs spoke about him is something which hints there could be a connection between them, so he is still looking the "surest" option to me, at least for now.
The other subject might be Mithalwen, though her latter posts somewhat calm me. Hmm...

Gil-Galad, as I said above, I think is probably innocent. The same goes for Hookbill, I am still inclined to believe his "honest reluctance". Concerning Durelin, for those of you who know D&D, I'd say it this way: I don't know whether to consider her "chaotic good" or "chaotic evil". But if I had to judge her general behavior, I am inclined to see her not a Faithful. The similar goes probably about Lommy, although I had some strange feelings on her lately, now I think she is ok.

Lalaith... I never quite got the start of her case, I don't see anything particularly suspicious on her. Only a question:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Villagers, if I'm right about who the wolves are, we really are in trouble.
These Faithfuls are also among the most frequent and vocal posters - most of the innocents are quiet ones. I have a horrible feeling of deja vu, vis a vis duelling wizards and the wolf of the Rohirrim. Beware. Please post and participate, innocents.

I must say this actually quite creeped me out when I first saw it, because I don't know what to think of it. What was that supposed to mean, Lalaith? (and what is duelling wizards anyway?)

Kath is still undecipherable to me (maybe it is because of that avatar ) - I don't have any particular opinion on her.

I'll wait if Kitanna appears here, otherwise I think everyone has showed up...

EDIT: Seems like it wasn't that quiet after all, Kitanna was already here...

[Kitanna]

++ Saucepan Man

I'd rather vote for one of my other suspects, rather than on a gut feeling that either Durelin or SpM is guilty. However, I feel Durelin is innocent and I'd rather have her kept alive.

Tomorrow I'd like to take a long hard look at Gil.

[Mithalwen]

I will probably go with Pan man..thought I haven't read as much as I would like .... just a feeling from the day one dynamic..adn I suspect that Roa suspected him of being a faithful and her initial vote was a bluff.

I wish Hookbill woul dpost but he clearly is not going to be an option for today

[Kath]

Ok, I'd better vote now.

++SAUCE

For what I said earlier.

I'm not sure about looking at Gil, Kitanna. That slip about the wolves killing Glirdan ... I just can't see him doing it on purpose. It's possible, but of the quiet ones I think I'd still be more inclined to believe Hookbill a wolf than Gil.

[Lalaith]

Sorry Legate. The Wolf of the Rohirrim is Eomer, one of the most sinister wolves/players ever to plague a village, so I'm not surprised you were creeped out even by the mention of his name. I was referring to a previous WW game, duelling wizards, when I pleaded with villagers to lynch Eomer, who I was convinced was a wolf. The innocents were mostly quiet ones, the wolves won the day and lynched me instead, and the game was lost to the innocents.

What I was trying to say was that if I was right, and the wolves are indeed Saucie, Durelin and possibly Mith, they would be an unusually formidable pack and the rest of us needed to fight back with as much force and participation as we could muster.
But back to the subject at hand.

[Durelin]

About 15 minutes till the close of the Day and we still have not heard from Hookbill. He did vote yesterDay, though, at least, so luckily we aren't running the risk again of untimely losing another innocent. He definitely needs to be looked at again, even though we really don't have much to go on him.

If we have another wolf in SPM, if the wolves get a kill toNight, tomorrow it will be 6 of us against 2 wolves; if not, it will be 3 against five? Why do these things always come down to the wire...

Wow, it seems like it's been a while since the voting hasn't been neck-to-neck to the last minute. *waits for the retractions to start*

[Mithalwen]

Well this village has been peculiarly suicidal.......... but we still have a ranger..and a hunter ......so we may get a bonus.....

[Mithalwen]

++ The Saucepan Man

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Sorry Legate. The Wolf of the Rohirrim is Eomer, one of the most sinister wolves/players ever to plague a village, so I'm not surprised you were creeped out even by the mention of his name. I was referring to a previous WW game, duelling wizards, when I pleaded with villagers to lynch Eomer, who I was convinced was a wolf. The innocents were mostly quiet ones, the wolves won the day and lynched me instead, and the game was lost to the innocents.

What I was trying to say was that if I was right, and the wolves are indeed Saucie, Durelin and possibly Mith, they would be an unusually formidable pack and the rest of us needed to fight back with as much force and participation as we could muster.
But back to the subject at hand.

Oh. All right then.

Well, considering that there is probably nothing interesting happening today any more, I am going to trust the "proof". And let's hope we have not made mistake this time.

++the Saucepan Man

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Kath

I'm not sure about looking at Gil, Kitanna. That slip about the wolves killing Glirdan ... I just can't see him doing it on purpose. It's possible, but of the quiet ones I think I'd still be more inclined to believe Hookbill a wolf than Gil.

The mess up doesn't necessarily have to be on purpose or mean he's innocent. Limiting it to just those two options seems rather foolish to me. Particularly with Gil, I'm prepared to expect anything.

[Mithalwen]

I wish I was surer ..I have a nagging feeling of having been stitched up...

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Sorry for not posting peoples, it's been one of those days.
If this keeps up, I may have to pull out.

I understand your casem Master Pan, and I'd probably vote for me in your shoes, which makes me think that you're not a wolf because I cannot see any advantage the faithfuls would have in getting me lynched as I readily admit I've not really posed a threat as far as I am aware.
I'm running out of time, so I'll have to come to a decision...

Durelin's name kept popping up so I thought I'd give the old Wight's posts a check up and I can see where the people are coming from. 'Loud' is how Durelin was described somewhere above, and I'm not sure how to read that particular reading.

Gil-Gallad is the only one who has left me uneasy today. And I see it's now 8:59 so... erm... well... *shakes nervously*

Sorry, Gil...

++ Gil-Gallad

[Macalaure]

Deadline

The Saucepan Man has been lynched (I think)

Since nobody complains, I assume to be right.

The Saucepan Man is a Filthy Faithful!

[Durelin]

It almost seems too obvious to be right... Arrrghh this game can be so stressful sometimes...

Edit: Agh, sorry for cross-posting!

[Macalaure]

Long the Númenoreans talked on this day, and finally, for the first time, it seemed like they they were pulling together. Slowly but surely the vote steered towards the Saucepan Man and with no hesitation the decision was reached. Now only one thing stood between the angry mob and a dead Saucepan Man: The Saucepan Man himself!

Because he was nowhere to be found!

“Where is the Saucepan Man?” asked Kath “We must see him and speak to him, more clearly than we have spoken yet.”

The Númenoreans searched upon Meneltarma and in the village at its feet, but he was not there. The evening was dawning already when he was found, at the very western end of the island. A wall there once stood, part of which was now destroyed and part of which reached out into the ocean. There the Saucepan Man stood watching out on the waves.

“Saucepan Man!” cried Hookbill, the Goomba, seriously “You know the charges that are made against you, that instead of praying to Melkor, the Great God of the World, you are worshipping the name... Ilúvatar?”

A widely audible gasp was heard.

“I don’t think it should be a sin, just for worshipping Ilúvatar!” the Saucepan Man answered.

“Blasphemy!” the crowd shouted, but Hookbill, though distressed himself, kept his calm: “You’re only making it worse for yourself!”

“Making it worse? How can it be worse? Ilúvatar! Ilúvatar! Ilúvatar!”

“He said it again! He said it again!” the crowd shrieked and they took up stones that were broken from the wall.

“I’m warning you! If you say Ilúvatar one more time...” Hookbill attempted to say, but a stone thrown to his head interrupted him. “Right! Who did that? Come on, who did that?”

“She did! She did!” it was jangled, and the Númenoreans were pointing towards Mithalwen.

“Was it you?”

“Yes...”

“Why?”

“Well, you did say... you know...”

“To the back of the line with you!”

“Do you not see what the worship of Melkor has done to you?” the Saucepan Man threw in “You have begun to slay one another. Stop it now! No one is to stone anyone until Hookbill blows his whistle, even... and I want to make this absolutely clear... even if somebody does say... ‘Ilúvatar’!”

“He said it again!” the Númenoreans shrieked again, and they mercilessly stoned the Saucepan Man.


The day was dark, but there was now hope for Men, for the Faithful were fewer.

*~*

The Dead:

Macalaure (mod) - brutally killed by Faithfuls in Night One
Garin (ordo) - decapitated with a scythe on Day One
Holbytlass (ordo) - committed suicide to revive Garin in Night Two
The Might (ordo) - committed suicide to help Holbytlass reviving Garin in Night Two
Roa_Aoife (Tar-Míriel / cobbler) - stabbed to death on Day Two
Rikae (High Priest of Annatar / seer) - killed and reformed into a ship by Faithfuls in Night Three
Glirdan (ordo) - another one who committed suicide to revive Garin
Brinniel (ordo) - executed on Day Three
Rune Son of Bjarne (ordo) - disassembled by the Faithfuls in Night Four
the guy who be short (were-faithful) - flew from the Land of the Star with no star to guide him on Day Four
Mänwe (ordo) - killed by a malfunctioning catapult on Day Four
Nogrod (ordo) - received the Gift of Eru in Night Five
The Saucepan Man (were-faithful) - stoned to death on Day Five


The Living:

Durelin
Gil-Galad
Hookbill the Goomba
Kath
Kitanna
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mithalwen
Thinlómien

[Macalaure]

It was unusually late when the Númenoreans got back to their huts. An exhausting day had lain behind them and it showed, most with Kath, who fell asleep even at the same place where the Saucepan Man had been lynched.

In the middle of the night, she heard somebody call her name. – “Wake up, Kath” – but nobody was there to be seen for her in the moonlit darkness.

“Who are you?”

“I come with good tidings for you in these evil times.”

“Where are you?”

“I am upon the wall,... looking down on you!”

Kath looked up, and against the moon she saw a dark figure above her and it felt to her as if she could see its glaring eyes under the waving cloak.

“Do you wish to bring evil on me?” she asked frightened.

“On the contrary! I’d like to save you and accord an honourable fate to you.”

“And what shall that be?” Kath asked.

“You shall be sacrificed to the Children of Ulmo!” the figure said complaisantly.

“Never!” she defied, and the figure drew its sword. Seeing the hopelessness of her situation Kath quickly turned and was about to run away, back to the village to find herself help. But the Faithfuls proved smarter than she: the other was already waiting behind her and so she ran into an upraised sword.

Thus Kath passed from this world.

Later that night, the Faithfuls fulfilled the offer they had made to her, and Kath was cut into many pieces and given to the living things of the sea.

*~*

The Dead:

Macalaure (mod) - brutally killed by Faithfuls in Night One
Garin (ordo) - decapitated with a scythe on Day One
Holbytlass (ordo) - committed suicide to revive Garin in Night Two
The Might (ordo) - committed suicide to help Holbytlass reviving Garin in Night Two
Roa_Aoife (Tar-Míriel / cobbler) - stabbed to death on Day Two
Rikae (High Priest of Annatar / seer) - killed and reformed into a ship by Faithfuls in Night Three
Glirdan (ordo) - another one who committed suicide to revive Garin
Brinniel (ordo) - executed on Day Three
Rune Son of Bjarne (ordo) - disassembled by the Faithfuls in Night Four
the guy who be short (were-faithful) - flew from the Land of the Star with no star to guide him on Day Four
Mänwe (ordo) - killed by a malfunctioning catapult on Day Four
Nogrod (ordo) - received the Gift of Eru in Night Five
The Saucepan Man (were-faithful) - stoned to death on Day Five
Kath (ordo) - made into fish fodder in Night Six


The Living:

Durelin
Gil-Galad
Hookbill the Goomba
Kitanna
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mithalwen
Thinlómien

[Lalaith]

Ok, this has cleared up a few things.

Today I will be voting for either Durelin or Mithalwen.

[Durelin]

So it was both obvious and true. Two done, two to go...can we do it in just two more Days I wonder?

Originally Posted by Lal

Today I will be voting for either Durelin or Mithalwen.

Okay, glad you already know for certain, less than half an hour after the start of the Day.

I think it quite probable that at least one if not both of the wolves voted for SPM...obviously, considering the consensus was against him the Day before as well. It's possible even that they voted fairly early on for him, but I think it's at least less likely. They can always leave things open to the possibility of another lynchee until they feel that it's pretty certain SPM was going to be lynched.

I think Gil should be looked at, as I do not think that the fact that TGWBS started going after him clears him of guilt. Gil has been in the background of suspicion for a while, but he was never in danger of lynching, so I believe it could have been a wolf trying to distance himself from his comrade. Kitanna's waffling is maybe of interest, but I don't like the feel of people who seem certain.

Lalaith's voting record when it comes to TGWBS and Sauce makes me think she isn't a wolf, and yet she is bothering me a lot. And no, not just because she has suspected me for some time now, but because she has basically only perpetually suspected me since Nogrod started on his tirade against me. It seems pretty possible to me that she could very well have decided that since TGWBS and Sauce had already been put under pressure by the only known innocent, she could at least make herself look good. It is crazy, though, so she's not my top suspect. The way she addressed Kitanna's waffling on myself and Sauce and her "gut feelings," she seemed to accuse Kitanna for not just voting for one of us, as if not doing so was just illogical or wrong. Then she posted again to say "oh, yeah, but you can vote for whoever you want." Doesn't really say anything, but it bothers me. I guess overall it's just how she's been playing off what Nogrod started. Though maybe she just assumes that if he was right about Sauce and TGWBS he's right about me.

She has been doing a good job remaining consistent...still going after Mith...

Speaking of Mith, her later vote may have been a wolf deciding that it was too late to try and save her comrade. Legate's definitely could be that, as well. Mith feels more innocent than Legate does. I feel like I have nothing on Legate, which makes me worry that he's been so careful and in such a safe position that he's just been the perfect wolf.

Hookbill is as much of a mystery to me now as Gil is. He obviously is short on time, and I suppose his vote yesterDay can be attributed to that, but...it does look very odd, and I made the mistake once before of ruling out a person just because they didn't have much time and when they did post they seemed as helpful as they could be. Hookbill's suspicions have all be "kindas" and he tends to apologize for suspecting and voting for people. He's playing it so safe it's a little astounding.

Lommy seems innocent to me. Her posting, though rare, has been extremely helpful, and she was spot on with SPM.

I have a feeling this is going to be a very quiet day... Lalaith was right about a quiet village. Of course for some reason I think it likely she won't be contributing much more than a vote for myself or Mith...

Time to consider doing some homework...

[Gil-Galad]

With the past events, i am inclined to take Durelin off my suspicous list, as i said earlier, faithfuls would know better then to risk their own kin to be lynched in this stage of the game

so we have 2 faithfuls, 2 gifted and 4 ordos...hmmm... interesting indeed... personally i am surprised i have survived this long already...


Suspicous:

Hookbill
Lalaith

Less Suspicous:

Legate
Durelin
Mithalwen

Proabably innocent:

Thinlomien

i want to look more of what Kitanna has to say, she has been way too quiet and way too much under the radar, possibly a silent wolf

[Lalaith]

My decision about who to vote for are based on my deductions as to the reason the wolves killed Kath.
However, as those deductions involve speculations as to the identity of the Hunter, I won't explain them openly, unless urged to by people I trust in this game.

[Lalaith]

By the way, I won't be able to post again until much later today. Nothing sinister there, my computer at work blocks the forum.

[Lalaith]

Sorry for this flood-posting...just spotted what Gil said...

er, Gil...if you absolve Durelin of wolvishness because

faithfuls would know better then to risk their own kin to be lynched in this stage of the game

then why do suspect me? I voted to lynch both guy and saucie, and indeed argued forcefully for their lynchings....

[Lalaith]

God, I can't believe I'm doing this, I'm going to be late for work....
but I also realised I should address this claim:

she has basically only perpetually suspected me since Nogrod started on his tirade against me

No, you were my top suspect the day before. Anyway, more later. Hope it doesn't stay this quiet.

[Thinlómien]

I've reached the paranoid stage of suspecting everyone. Whether that's good or bad I don't know. Well, at least I don't need to suspect Kath anymore.

Durelin... she's a difficult one. I was almost ready to exonerate her for this:

Originally Posted by Durelin

It almost seems too obvious to be right... Arrrghh this game can be so stressful sometimes...

But then again, I knwo she's very clever and well capable of making such move... (You may wonder what was the point of this paragraph. It was to point this comment out and stir discussion about it: I'd be glad to hear other people's opinions on it too....)

I disagree with Gil-Galad who says that the faithfuls are most probably sticking together at this phase. I'm almost sure that yesterDay (or even the Day before) there was at least one faithful-on-faithul -vote. That statment actually makes me slightly wary of Gil: it would be very convenient for him as a wolf to say that, remembering the spat between him and TGWBS...

I will check two things soon: 1) What Sauce said about everyone yesterDay since he knew he was under a serious lynch-threat. (I just think he didn't say very much just because of that. ) 2) Why was Kath killed? Did she say anything gifted-ish? Who did she suspect? Or was she just generally not very much suspected and the faithfuls decided to eliminate her since she certainly is a clever player?

[Thinlómien]

Okay, I did check. Sauce actually said quite a lot, but I've concluded that he could have used any tactic, bluff tactic or double-bluff tactic, so who he claimed to think innocent or guilty doesn't help us (or me at least).

Kath said nothing yesterday that would give me a clue why was she killed. Maybe that's in her earlier posts and I should check them too. This is the first wolf kill we can really analyse and I don't think we should waste the chance... but we should keep in mind that "to confuse" and "to avoid leaving tracks" are wolves' killing motives too...

[Thinlómien]

I'm not very intrigued or amused by the fact that it has been very silent toDay... I hope you'll at least be more active in the late hours when I'm not here anymore... (I know I've not been very active myself, but I'll do a few posts before I leave.)

[Mithalwen]

It has taken this computer 45 mins to load this page .... argh ...

I am reasonably confident of Lommy's innocence and am inclined to believe gil and Durelin are innocent .... Gil has been on the money all the way through and the fact I agree with him now is encouraging ......

Part of me thinks it incredible that we may have pinned three wolves in the 3 way tie the other night but Lalaith still looks suspicious to me. I suspected initiall for her misinterpretation of my first post. The main others who did this were SpM and TGWBS .....

Legate ..makes me uneasy but it may be unfamiliarity..and so does Hookbill who has seemed too quiet.

Kitanna hasn't figured on my radar much but that doesn't necessarily mean anything ... she is a steady type ..not likely to give away her role easily be she wolf or gifted.

[Thinlómien]

Good to see someone around!

And one correction:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

This is the first wolf kill we can really analyse --

Actually this isn't since the Rune-kill was one as well...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm, mostly I agree with Lommy. It indeed seems there is not much to be gained from SpM, nor do I happen to conclude anything from Kath's death (however, I didn't have time to go through all the thread, so perhaps later).

Originally Posted by Lommy

(You may wonder what was the point of this paragraph. It was to point this comment out and stir discussion about it: I'd be glad to hear other people's opinions on it too....)

I don't think this would really signify Durelin's innocence or Faithfulness. But I don't know if a Faithful would post something like that, so... Well, concluding from Durelin's general behavior, I think this could have been genuine.

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

faithfuls would know better then to risk their own kin to be lynched in this stage of the game.

I don't want to make anything out of nothing, but considering what I said earlier about Gil-Galad's vote on tgwbs (and vice versa), this could be very well a cover, like emphasising my point. Whether I thought Gil innocent yesterday, I am not that sure now, since this looks somehow suspicious to me. Also considering that Gil jumped on SpM's bandwaggon and even yet proclaimed it might look quite different in the light if he was Faithful.

[Gil-Galad]

With the jumping on the bandwagon, i was merely entranced, if you will, by SPM's big words as usual, i shall try not to do it this time

Lalaith i suspect you because some faithfuls could be stuck in the moment and not really underrstanding what other Faithfuls really want. you could also be in a sense of panic with the accusations on you that you feel you must risk your own kin to save yourself, it is a free-for-all now i must admit and none of us can really trust each other enough... oh how i wish we still had our seer...


Experience, its what seperates us from the animals... well that and product placement


still waiting to hear from hookbill and Kitanna

[Thinlómien]

I looked through Kath's posts from yesterDay and the Day before and found nothing that would have attracted a wolf attack. I think she might have been killed to leave no tracks (she was quite quiet and did not have any major disputes or alliances with anyone) or because the wolves thought her to be gifted since she was very quiet (as to avoid attention) and not one of them. Pure speculation.

I'm inclined think Gil and Lalaith innocent (and won't be repeating the reasoning here, it's on my earlier posts), but anyone else could be either way... I mean...

I'm really confused about Durelin. I used to suspect her a lot and I can still see why. But I'm not sure what to think of her. She has been quite genuinely innocent-ish lately and I don't know how to take Sauce's vehement attack on her yesterDay... Was Sauce trying to get an innocent lynched or was he trying to make either himself (in case wolf-Durelin was killed) or wolf-Durelin (in case he himself was killed) look good? We can't know. Also, I wonder if three of the faithfuls (SPM, TGWBS, Durelin) would all support the same idea (finding clues from Roa's posts...) And that last comment of hers yesterDay... My head's boiling probably!

Kitanna then... She makes me wary. But she does that every single time I play with her regardless of her role. Her jump on the Lalaith-wagon and the things that popped to my mind while doing the analysis about her some Days ago are quite incriminating, but on the other hand her placement on the wolves' suspicion list makes me think she's innocent. Would a faithful do this to two of his fellows?: (those are the only two names under "somewhat suspicious")

Originally Posted by SPM

Somewhat suspicious
TGWBS - for urging the village not to vote for Roa
Kitanna - for possibly testing the water on Manwe and also seemingly avoiding controversy

Or this to a fellow: (the only name under that title)

Originally Posted by TGWBS

More innocent than faithful
Kitanna

I don't really know about Kitanna either...

Hookbill... he seems very genuine. There are some things that make me suspect him however. He continuously seems to avoid taking sides and I don't like his placement on several suspicion lists by TGWBS and Sauce. But I've been mistaking newcomerishness with wolvishness before *coughBrinnielcough* so I'd rather not judge Hookbill too quickly, especially as there isn't any particular things that ring my alarms about his behaviour.

I don't know what to think of Mith either... Both of the now-revealed wolves thought her innocent... does that speak for her guilt or her innocence? I think the first one more probable wolvish behaviour... And like I've said before, she's been concentrating on weird things but her consistent Roa-campaign makes me think she's innocent... I think I'm going to let her be (means not actively suspect her) at least for toDay, she seems less suspicious than many anyway...

Legate? He's way too careful to my taste and his interactions with TGWBS look pretty sinister. Also I don't like his behaviour late yesterday... But on the other hand he has said some things I don't think a faithful would say and his helpful and calm manner are innocent-ish... A difficult one again.

[Thinlómien]

++KITANNA

Because of the following things.

- See this. Even though it was made some time ago it's still partly relevant. Especially the parts about carefulness, agreeing, repeating, Garin and Hookbill.
- I don't like her joining the Lalaith-wagon at all. Seems like trying to save two fellow faithfuls.
- Check TGWBS's and Sauce's attitudes towards her. In his last Day(s?) Sauce said she was on of his main suspects, but never made a case against her or anything. Guy remained neutral/positive about her. For most of the game, they both had no idea about her or thought her neutral. Smells faithful-ish.
- She flip-flops. Check her statements about Durelin from yesterday for example.
- She voted SPM after stating she'd rather note vote him because she didn't have a "case" against him, just gut-feeling.
- Also, she voted Lalaith because she needed to take a closer look at her other suspects, me and Mith. As far as I know, no "closer look" was ever taken, at least none that she'd have told us about.

[Mithalwen]

I am quite puzzled as to why Kath was killed ...... although maybe others find her easier to read she can usually be relied on to befuddle ..... she is one of the quieter ones but Legate, Hookbill, Gil and Kitanna are at the same level.
Maybe it was a calculated choice to avoid the ranger.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

I agree with Mithalwen. Kath's killing was odd and unusual, perhaps the faithfuls are going for the ones who haven't aroused suspicion or been quiet in order to avoid having anything concurred put on them... Hmm... interesting mental image.

This'll be my only post today, unfortunately so I'll have to vote...

++ Gil Gallad

My last hunch about SPM turned out, by sheer fluke probably, to be right, so I'm sticking with this for now. No hard feelings, Mr. Gallad.

[Lalaith]

I'm back.

The reason I'm focussing on Kath's death is because by rights it should have been Lommy who was killed. Most of us believe her to be innocent and trust her, so she is almost like a known innocent.
Of course, the wolves might have assumed that for that reason the ranger would protect her and so they went for someone else instead, choosing Kath for the reasons people have mentioned today.

However, I've got another theory, as I mentioned earlier. Having said that....thinking about it today, I realise my deductions from this theory are faulty, and that it does not exclude as many suspects as I thought.

I'm a bit worried about Hookbill now, for example.

I wish Lommy were coming back, while I trust her as much as I can trust any non-proven player in this game, I'm not sure I'm convinced by her Kitanna arguments.
I'm still perturbed by Durelin, and I still think she's a wolf.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, it seems really nothing much is possible to deduce from Kath's death, so I have not moved on with anything and can only present here some traces brought by my conclusions. While something has raised doubts on Gil-Galad in me, I am not still sure enough of it being something to stand on. Probably the most possible suspect to me now seems Mithalwen. Mainly it is because of the possibility of a connection with tgwbs, but when reading through her posts, there are things which seem really strange. There are several posts from her in the first days which might seem like a defense of SpM, or an apology why not vote for him. Mith also seems to be very defensive of herself, in a "preventive" way. Also later at the time Roa was about to be lynched, she might have cast a Faithful-on-Faithful vote on SpM. And finally, on the day tgwbs was lynched, she joined SpM's vote campaign against Lalaith - if she were a Faithful, this could mean possible attempt to save both SpM and tgwbs. Though, it is true that she voted for Lalaith even earlier - but on the other hand, the Faithfuls might have agreed on this (they can make plans, right? So maybe this was the case). I cannot probably go on with better things now, but thus far, the evidence seems to be quite convincing to me. And the main point is, as I said, the possible connection with the two lynched Faithfuls. I'd wait here if something else appears to ponder (not that there is much traffic today anyway), but I have to leave now and probably wouldn't return. So,

++Mithalwen

[Lalaith]

I can wait until near the deadline and I want to hear from everyone.

Legate, Lommy and Hookbill have all cast their votes, saying they will not return.
Of these three, I am fairly confident that Legate and Lommy are innocent. The more I think about things, however, the more unhappy I am getting about Hookbill.

So far, Kitanna, Gil and Mithalwen all have one vote each.

Kitanna has yet to make an appearance toDay. Gil, Mith, Kitanna and Durelin have yet to vote (as I have I). Gil says odd things, it is true, but I still think he is an innocent. I suspect Kitanna to be an innocent but I have deep misgivings, as I said, about Durelin and Mith. Clearly not all three (Hookbill, Durelin and Mith) can be wolves, but my vote will go to one of those three.

[Mithalwen]

Legate you credit me with a guile I don't possess and could you point out whereI defnd the Saucepan man? I really don't believe that is possible.

Oh and I am innocent but not gifted so it won't be quite so disatrous if you lynch me especially since I will hardly be able to participate if I live til Saturday. And I am fairly clueless other than that Lommy really seems in the clear...