Which Downer Am I! - Page 15 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Turambar · 03-27-2006, 07:33 AM

As Gandalf once hinted.

Cryptic clues usually have a "straight" portion at the beginnig or the end - is there a bone-house around here who's a movie editor - or a tarantula?

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-27-2006, 07:44 AM

Getting warm ...

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-27-2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bb

Dearie me, SpM, they're all easy once one knows where to look.

Indeed, but looking at the clue has a particular significance here ...

Mithalwen · 03-27-2006, 10:32 AM

You mean the name is concealed in the clue? If so I can't see for looking..

Turambar · 03-27-2006, 10:46 AM

alatar

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 03-27-2006, 10:52 AM

It's to do with the dash in the clue, I think. Tar-ancalime?

Very easy cryptic clue? Oxymoron, anyone?

Mithalwen · 03-27-2006, 10:54 AM

I think Turambar has it.... how silly of me... especially since it is a downer I know.... surely I am the world's least observant person...

Edit NB Alatar organises the sequence by sequence discussion of the movies

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-27-2006, 11:05 AM

Turambar has it.

Alatar is the editor of the sequence-by-sequence discussion in the Movie forum, and his name is concealed in (partially consumed by) animal - a tarantula.

So you see. The answer was indeed staring you in the face ...

Take it away, Turambar.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 03-27-2006, 11:06 AM

*applause*

I just love finding out what they mean.

Turambar · 03-27-2006, 11:18 AM

I don't know very many citizens - would someone else like to go?

JennyHallu · 03-27-2006, 11:36 AM

I would....

But anything I could devise would be painfully simple. More of a race than a puzzle.

JennyHallu · 04-14-2006, 12:16 PM

Ok...just because this seems to need a push.

Looks a little devilish upon first meeting.

Glirdan · 04-14-2006, 12:44 PM

Ummm...Gil or myself? (That was a complete wild guess) Or is it perhaps a little more cryptic then that??

JennyHallu · 04-14-2006, 01:12 PM

It is an attempt at a cryptic clue. I'm not sure if it's very good.

Kath · 04-17-2006, 10:35 AM

spawn perhaps? Please don't ask for reasoning, I have none.

JennyHallu · 04-17-2006, 10:44 AM

nope.

Either I actually managed to come up with a fairly difficult clue or I'm moshing cryptic clue rules together hopelessly. I'm going to hope it's A.

Glirdan · 04-17-2006, 11:07 AM

Oooo!! B-W? Or perhaps phantom?

JennyHallu · 04-17-2006, 11:20 AM

nope. nope.

Keep trying.

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-17-2006, 12:25 PM

Littlemanpoet, whose nickname when shortened to lmp looks a little devilish?

JennyHallu · 04-17-2006, 12:38 PM

Yay! Since littlemanpoet does not capitalize his own name, when you take the initials ("first" was supposed to indicate this) it is lmp, which looks like imp, a "little devil".

Your thread, Sauce. But first, a request for advice: how could this clue have been improved? I'm really trying to learn how to solve and write cryptic clues...and I thought this one was very straightforward, which makes me wonder if I didn't write it properly.

**The Saucepan Man** · 04-17-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

But first, a request for advice: how could this clue have been improved?

It seemed a pretty good clue to me.

There's no rule that the questions here have to be cryptic. It's just the medium that I work best with in these types of games. For an explanation of how cryptic clues generally work, have a look at the guidance which I gave early on in the Cryptic Clues thread.

And now for the next question:

A recent incumbent is spinning one in a room at university.

Gil-Galad · 04-17-2006, 01:57 PM

hmm... only person that comes to mind is AbercrombieofRohan...

Mithalwen · 04-18-2006, 11:37 AM

Well recent incumbent made me think of Gilthalion "hobbitus emeritus" but that doesn't help with the rest of the clue, and SpM's clues tend to work properly so unless (once again) I am failing to make an the necessary connections - I am on the wrong track.

Mithalwen · 05-01-2006, 11:19 AM

Time to herenistarion this

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-01-2006, 01:35 PM

OK, OK - you want a hint.

"Recent incumbent" is the straight clue - the answer should not be difficult to find...

The rest is cryptic, but fairly straightforward as cryptic clues go.

Anguirel · 05-01-2006, 01:42 PM

Squatter?

Mithalwen · 05-01-2006, 01:56 PM

Oh I think that he means it is a new downer who has "eno" one spun around in theirname... maybe ....

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-01-2006, 01:57 PM

No. On both counts.

Although this Downer is relatively new ...

Mithalwen · 05-01-2006, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

No. On both counts.

Although this Downer is relatively new ...

Oh.. well ....realtive to what though.....

Spinner could be a spider ..

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-01-2006, 04:08 PM

Room at university is dorm, and it has 'one' in it. Like, doneorm, or something. Is that near the track?

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-01-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mith

Spinner could be a spider ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eomer of the McRohirrim

Room at university is dorm, and it has 'one' in it.

You're both on the wrong track.

Spiders are not involved. And "room" and "university" are two separate clues.

Valesse · 05-02-2006, 10:26 AM

I'm going to try my hand at this, though I doubt I understand the clues...

Is it Caranlondien?

1) Joined in March.
2) She is a freshman in college (university).
2) Perhaps 'spinning' refers to her head after smashing into a "were-door" in the TiG XX?

Its a stretch, but its something...

Mithalwen · 05-02-2006, 11:03 AM

Well room could be space rather than a more tangible room... spin I don't know if it doesn't meen either spider or rotating letters...

Diamond18 · 05-02-2006, 12:34 PM

Hookbill the Goomba

Because spinning = wheel = wheels are mentioned in Hookbil's sig.

And room rhymes with goom.

Though I'm not sure what recent incumbent even means. And is a join date of 2003 really relatively new?

Alas, I can't think of anything else.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-02-2006, 01:21 PM

No correct answer so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mith

Well room could be space rather than a more tangible room

No. I'm looking for a word meaning a room.

Quote:

Originally Posted by D18

Because spinning = wheel

Not a wheel of the vehicular variety, but ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by D18

Though I'm not sure what recent incumbent even means.

It refers specifically to this thread.

Should be as clear as the nose on your face now.

Diamond18 · 05-02-2006, 01:40 PM

JennyHallu

Hall = Room

Lalaith · 05-02-2006, 01:51 PM

...and a cunning reference to a certain 18th century invention....very good indeed, sir.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-03-2006, 11:07 AM

Bingo! Correct, Diamond.

Recent incumbent (of this thread) = she asked the question before mine.

Spinning one = a Spinning Jenny.

Room = Hall.

University = U.

See - I told you it was easy ...

Diamond18 · 05-03-2006, 05:08 PM

Okay, I've got one for you:

Heigh ho, Sandman, away!

Lalaith · 05-04-2006, 06:42 AM

Sleepy Ranger?

03-27-2006, 07:33 AM	#561
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	As Gandalf once hinted. Cryptic clues usually have a "straight" portion at the beginnig or the end - is there a bone-house around here who's a movie editor - or a tarantula? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-27-2006, 07:44 AM	#562
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Getting warm ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-27-2006, 10:32 AM	#564
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	You mean the name is concealed in the clue? If so I can't see for looking.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2006, 10:46 AM	#565
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	alatar __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-27-2006, 10:52 AM	#566
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	It's to do with the dash in the clue, I think. Tar-ancalime? Very easy cryptic clue? Oxymoron, anyone? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

03-27-2006, 10:54 AM	#567
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	I know the way - just can't drive the car :( I think Turambar has it.... how silly of me... especially since it is a downer I know.... surely I am the world's least observant person... Edit NB Alatar organises the sequence by sequence discussion of the movies __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-27-2006, 11:05 AM	#568
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Turambar has it. Alatar is the editor of the sequence-by-sequence discussion in the Movie forum, and his name is concealed in (partially consumed by) animal - a tarantula. So you see. The answer was indeed staring you in the face ... Take it away, Turambar. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-27-2006, 11:06 AM	#569
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	applause I just love finding out what they mean. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

03-27-2006, 11:18 AM	#570
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I don't know very many citizens - would someone else like to go? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-27-2006, 11:36 AM	#571
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	I would.... But anything I could devise would be painfully simple. More of a race than a puzzle. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-14-2006, 12:16 PM	#572
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Ok...just because this seems to need a push. Looks a little devilish upon first meeting. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-14-2006, 12:44 PM	#573
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Ummm...Gil or myself? (That was a complete wild guess) Or is it perhaps a little more cryptic then that?? __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

04-14-2006, 01:12 PM	#574
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	It is an attempt at a cryptic clue. I'm not sure if it's very good. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-17-2006, 10:35 AM	#575
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	spawn perhaps? Please don't ask for reasoning, I have none. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-17-2006, 10:44 AM	#576
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	nope. Either I actually managed to come up with a fairly difficult clue or I'm moshing cryptic clue rules together hopelessly. I'm going to hope it's A. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-17-2006, 11:07 AM	#577
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Oooo!! B-W? Or perhaps phantom? __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

04-17-2006, 11:20 AM	#578
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	nope. nope. Keep trying. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-17-2006, 12:25 PM	#579
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Littlemanpoet, whose nickname when shortened to lmp looks a little devilish? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

04-17-2006, 12:38 PM	#580
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Yay! Since littlemanpoet does not capitalize his own name, when you take the initials ("first" was supposed to indicate this) it is lmp, which looks like imp, a "little devil". Your thread, Sauce. But first, a request for advice: how could this clue have been improved? I'm really trying to learn how to solve and write cryptic clues...and I thought this one was very straightforward, which makes me wonder if I didn't write it properly. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

04-17-2006, 01:57 PM	#582
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	hmm... only person that comes to mind is AbercrombieofRohan... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

04-18-2006, 11:37 AM	#583
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Well recent incumbent made me think of Gilthalion "hobbitus emeritus" but that doesn't help with the rest of the clue, and SpM's clues tend to work properly so unless (once again) I am failing to make an the necessary connections - I am on the wrong track. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-01-2006, 11:19 AM	#584
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Time to herenistarion this __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-01-2006, 01:35 PM	#585
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	OK, OK - you want a hint. "Recent incumbent" is the straight clue - the answer should not be difficult to find... The rest is cryptic, but fairly straightforward as cryptic clues go. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-01-2006, 01:42 PM	#586
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Squatter? __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

05-01-2006, 01:56 PM	#587
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Oh I think that he means it is a new downer who has "eno" one spun around in theirname... maybe .... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-01-2006, 01:57 PM	#588
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	No. On both counts. Although this Downer is relatively new ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-01-2006, 04:08 PM	#590
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Room at university is dorm, and it has 'one' in it. Like, doneorm, or something. Is that near the track? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

05-02-2006, 10:26 AM	#592
Valesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: \|Away Posts: 614	I'm going to try my hand at this, though I doubt I understand the clues... Is it Caranlondien? 1) Joined in March. 2) She is a freshman in college (university). 2) Perhaps 'spinning' refers to her head after smashing into a "were-door" in the TiG XX? Its a stretch, but its something... __________________ "Loo, what sholde a man in thyse dayes now wryte, 'egges' or 'eyren'?" - Caxton, Eneydos

05-02-2006, 11:03 AM	#593
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Well room could be space rather than a more tangible room... spin I don't know if it doesn't meen either spider or rotating letters... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-02-2006, 12:34 PM	#594
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Hookbill the Goomba Because spinning = wheel = wheels are mentioned in Hookbil's sig. And room rhymes with goom. Though I'm not sure what recent incumbent even means. And is a join date of 2003 really relatively new? Alas, I can't think of anything else. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

05-02-2006, 01:40 PM	#596
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	JennyHallu Hall = Room __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

05-02-2006, 01:51 PM	#597
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	...and a cunning reference to a certain 18th century invention....very good indeed, sir. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

05-03-2006, 11:07 AM	#598
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Bingo! Correct, Diamond. Recent incumbent (of this thread) = she asked the question before mine. Spinning one = a Spinning Jenny. Room = Hall. University = U. See - I told you it was easy ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-03-2006, 05:08 PM	#599
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Okay, I've got one for you: Heigh ho, Sandman, away! __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

05-04-2006, 06:42 AM	#600
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Sleepy Ranger? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling