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Guinevere · 01-19-2011, 05:38 PM

You are right, it's from the chapter "Of Men"

"But the dawn is brief and the day full often belies its promise; and now the time drew on to the great wars of the powers of the North, when Noldor and Sindar and Men strove against the hosts of Morgoth Bauglir, and went down in ruin."

And yes, what Gimli tells Legolas really is similar:
"It is ever so with the things that Men begin: there is a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer, and they fail of their promise."

Evisse the Blue · 01-20-2011, 02:56 AM

How about:

Quote:

Some things are ill to hear when the world is in shadow

Guinevere · 01-27-2011, 02:53 PM

No other takers?

That's Tom Bombadil to the Hobbits, if I remember rightly

Evisse the Blue · 02-02-2011, 02:57 AM

Sure is!

Guinevere · 02-03-2011, 02:22 PM

Thank you Evisse! I hope that one hasn't been used before:

Quote:

Fair speech may hide a foul heart

Galadriel55 · 03-01-2011, 10:59 AM

I think Gandalf wrote that in his letter to Frodo...

Guinevere · 03-01-2011, 01:58 PM

sorry, wrong guess! It is from the LotR, though.

Galadriel55 · 03-11-2011, 06:19 AM

Faramir to Frodo?

Guinevere · 03-11-2011, 02:59 PM

Sorry to disappoint you again, but it is not Faramir to Frodo. But you are searching in the right spot!!

Galadriel55 · 03-12-2011, 06:28 PM

You made me reread the Faramir chapters.

It's Sam, thinking to himself about Faramir, telling himself not to fall asleep.

Guinevere · 03-13-2011, 02:06 PM

The Faramir chapters are always worth a rereading!

Galadriel55 · 03-13-2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinevere

The Faramir chapters are always worth a rereading!

I love them!

I should have thought before answering - I don't have a good quote handy. You got me intrigued.

This is the only one I could think of:

Quote:

It is useless to meet revenge with revenge; it will heal nothing.

Guinevere · 04-13-2011, 01:56 PM

Isn't that Frodo to the other hobbits in the Scouring of the Shire?

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2011, 04:03 PM

Yup, that's it!

Guinevere · 04-16-2011, 03:10 PM

It's becoming increasingly difficult to find something that hasn't been used yet..
I hope this one counts:

Quote:

"... a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend."

Galadriel55 · 04-16-2011, 03:14 PM

Methinks it's Gandalf talking about about Gollum to Pippin, but I don't have ROTK right now to check...

Guinevere · 04-16-2011, 03:31 PM

You sure wasted no time finding that one, Galadriel55.

And even without the book to check it!

Galadriel55 · 04-16-2011, 03:40 PM

For a lack of a less obvious quote...

Quote:

The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater.

I don't think it was used before, but I didn't read through the whole thread... and I forgot most of what I read: it's been a while since then...

Guinevere · 04-20-2011, 12:58 PM

No other takers? Then I can't resist any longer, because this is one of my very favourite quotes!!

Haldir to the Fellowship in Lorien.

Galadriel55 · 04-24-2011, 06:55 PM

that's it!

Guinevere · 05-18-2011, 02:03 PM

I finally found one more "Wise saying":

"Do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

Galadriel55 · 05-18-2011, 05:31 PM

I think it's Aragorn talking about Fangorn Forest, probably to Gimli and Legolas. I'm not that sure, though... I have some feeling that Boromir is involved somehow...

Guinevere · 05-19-2011, 02:08 PM

Sorry, but your first guess is wrong. But you are right in thinking that Boromir is involved.

Galadriel55 · 05-19-2011, 05:09 PM

Celeborn, talking to Boromir & Fellowship about Fangorn!

Guinevere · 05-20-2011, 01:20 PM

Yep, exactly!

Galadriel55 · 05-20-2011, 02:17 PM

Thanks!

For a lack of a better quote:

"For you remain my king, and theirs, whatever betide."

Evisse the Blue · 09-21-2011, 02:00 AM

I don't remember who said it, but I think it was to Finrod

Galadriel55 · 09-21-2011, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evisse the Blue

I don't remember who said it, but I think it was to Finrod

Yes, it was to Finrod.

Since it's been so long I'll give it to you anyways. It was said by Edrahil when Finrod was departing with Beren.

Evisse the Blue · 09-21-2011, 06:40 AM

"if they mean well, then I'm a hobbit"

Galadriel55 · 09-21-2011, 03:50 PM

Gimli said it. My memmory is failing me, because I don't remember for the life of me when he said it. My guess would be near Caradhrass, when they were talking about the crows...

Guinevere · 10-28-2011, 03:50 PM

I found that Barliman Butterbur tells this to Frodo:

" These black men" "they're looking for Baggins, and if they mean well, I'm a hobbit.

11-06-2011, 06:13 PM

I really like "Live and learn." It is very simple yet very empowering if you really try to make with it in life. As for me, this is what my mantra is for everyday. I like living life to the fullest even if there are some hazards to that sort of thing. You have only one chance anyway, and you could just always learn from it. But with this, it is very important to work well within your bounds only.

Guinevere · 11-08-2011, 01:20 PM

Well, Evisse doesn't seem to be around to confirm my answer, but since I know it is correct, and I have just spotted a "proverb" that has hitherto escaped my attention, here goes:

Quote:

Ill is it to be trapped between the Doom of the Valar and the Malice of the Enemy

Galadriel55 · 11-11-2011, 02:48 PM

Just found that in UT: Voronwe to Tuor.

Guinevere · 11-12-2011, 06:50 AM

When I saw your post in the chapter-by-chapter thread of U.T., I knew it wouldn't be long before you spotted this one!

Galadriel55 · 11-12-2011, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinevere

When I saw your post in the chapter-by-chapter thread of U.T., I knew it wouldn't be long before you spotted this one!

Yeah, that was the case...

And now I have to find a saying....

Quote:

Let your legs take their share

Guinevere · 11-18-2011, 09:05 AM

That could be the dwarves in Mirkwood, to Bombur when he at last woke up, but wanted to lie down again to resume his dream...

Galadriel55 · 11-18-2011, 02:42 PM

Please take the board!

Guinevere · 11-18-2011, 03:15 PM

Alas, it may take a long time before I find anything suitable that hasn't been used before! So if anyone has a "proverb" ready, please go ahead!

Guinevere · 12-20-2011, 01:45 PM

OK, I found another one, but it is not said by anyone, it is just in the narrative:

Quote:

night is a cold counsellor

01-19-2011, 05:38 PM	#561
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	You are right, it's from the chapter "Of Men" "But the dawn is brief and the day full often belies its promise; and now the time drew on to the great wars of the powers of the North, when Noldor and Sindar and Men strove against the hosts of Morgoth Bauglir, and went down in ruin." And yes, what Gimli tells Legolas really is similar: "It is ever so with the things that Men begin: there is a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer, and they fail of their promise." __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

01-27-2011, 02:53 PM	#563
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	No other takers? That's Tom Bombadil to the Hobbits, if I remember rightly __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-02-2011, 02:57 AM	#564
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Sure is! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

03-01-2011, 10:59 AM	#566
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	I think Gandalf wrote that in his letter to Frodo... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-01-2011, 01:58 PM	#567
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	sorry, wrong guess! It is from the LotR, though. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

03-11-2011, 06:19 AM	#568
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Faramir to Frodo? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-11-2011, 02:59 PM	#569
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Sorry to disappoint you again, but it is not Faramir to Frodo. But you are searching in the right spot!! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

03-12-2011, 06:28 PM	#570
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	You made me reread the Faramir chapters. It's Sam, thinking to himself about Faramir, telling himself not to fall asleep. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-13-2011, 02:06 PM	#571
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Correct! The Faramir chapters are always worth a rereading! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

04-13-2011, 01:56 PM	#573
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Isn't that Frodo to the other hobbits in the Scouring of the Shire? __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

04-13-2011, 04:03 PM	#574
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Yup, that's it! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-16-2011, 03:14 PM	#576
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Methinks it's Gandalf talking about about Gollum to Pippin, but I don't have ROTK right now to check... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-16-2011, 03:31 PM	#577
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Exactly! You sure wasted no time finding that one, Galadriel55. And even without the book to check it! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

04-20-2011, 12:58 PM	#579
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	No other takers? Then I can't resist any longer, because this is one of my very favourite quotes!! Haldir to the Fellowship in Lorien. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

04-24-2011, 06:55 PM	#580
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	that's it! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-18-2011, 02:03 PM	#581
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	I finally found one more "Wise saying": "Do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know." __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

05-18-2011, 05:31 PM	#582
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	I think it's Aragorn talking about Fangorn Forest, probably to Gimli and Legolas. I'm not that sure, though... I have some feeling that Boromir is involved somehow... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-19-2011, 02:08 PM	#583
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Sorry, but your first guess is wrong. But you are right in thinking that Boromir is involved. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

05-19-2011, 05:09 PM	#584
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Celeborn, talking to Boromir & Fellowship about Fangorn! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-20-2011, 01:20 PM	#585
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Yep, exactly! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

05-20-2011, 02:17 PM	#586
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Thanks! For a lack of a better quote: "For you remain my king, and theirs, whatever betide." __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-21-2011, 02:00 AM	#587
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I don't remember who said it, but I think it was to Finrod __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-21-2011, 06:40 AM	#589
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	"if they mean well, then I'm a hobbit" __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-21-2011, 03:50 PM	#590
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Gimli said it. My memmory is failing me, because I don't remember for the life of me when he said it. My guess would be near Caradhrass, when they were talking about the crows... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

10-28-2011, 03:50 PM	#591
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	I found that Barliman Butterbur tells this to Frodo: " These black men" "they're looking for Baggins, and if they mean well, I'm a hobbit. __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-06-2011, 06:13 PM	#592
icning Guest Posts: n/a	I really like "Live and learn." It is very simple yet very empowering if you really try to make with it in life. As for me, this is what my mantra is for everyday. I like living life to the fullest even if there are some hazards to that sort of thing. You have only one chance anyway, and you could just always learn from it. But with this, it is very important to work well within your bounds only.

11-11-2011, 02:48 PM	#594
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Just found that in UT: Voronwe to Tuor. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-12-2011, 06:50 AM	#595
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	correct! When I saw your post in the chapter-by-chapter thread of U.T., I knew it wouldn't be long before you spotted this one! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-18-2011, 09:05 AM	#597
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	That could be the dwarves in Mirkwood, to Bombur when he at last woke up, but wanted to lie down again to resume his dream... __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

11-18-2011, 02:42 PM	#598
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,380	Please take the board! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-18-2011, 03:15 PM	#599
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Alas, it may take a long time before I find anything suitable that hasn't been used before! So if anyone has a "proverb" ready, please go ahead! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!