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12-12-2010, 05:11 PM | #5921 |
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Is it in/from Lothlorien?
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12-12-2010, 06:16 PM | #5922 |
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A person? No.
Place? No. Object? Yes, it's a thing. Weapon? I would say no. Jewel? No. Plant? No. Magical? Yes. Was it ever broken? No. Was it made by the Elves? I think you could say so. Palantir(s)? No. Second Age? No. Is it perhaps a non-permanent object? Very good. Yes. Galadriel's mirror? A great guess. But wrong. No. Galadriel's phial? Nyet. Could it be held in hand? Nein. Is it dreams? No. It's material. Bruinen? I mean, the way Elrond makes it flood? No. Not related to Bruinen. And I just had another idea - the writing on the Moria Gates in ithildin? Nope. Hmmm. This is tricky indeed. Let's tackle it from a different angle, then. Could it be held in hand? No. Was it made/used within the last millennium of the Third Age (i.e. after TA 2000) ?Yes. Did it come from Lothlorien? Yes.
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12-12-2010, 07:37 PM | #5923 |
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Lembas?
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12-13-2010, 07:59 AM | #5924 |
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Lembas?
Nope. (The "when" is key).
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12-13-2010, 08:07 AM | #5925 |
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Is it the mist that covered the Eotheod when they passed near Dol Guldur on their way to the Field of Celebrant?
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12-13-2010, 08:35 AM | #5926 | |
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Is it the mist that covered the Eotheod when they passed near Dol Guldur on their way to the Field of Celebrant?
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Btw, Before going with the white mist I considered the punch that Helm Hammerhand killed Freca with, but that could have led to other yes/no tricky answers to questions. If asked if "it" was human technically the answer is, I think, no, but to do so would lead you to assume it was a place or thing. As to whether the mist was natural or created, it seems to me the nearest analog could be the river at the Ford of Bruinen attacking the Nine Riders and killing their horses. The River itself was natural, used by Elrond, and enhanced (horses heads) by Gandalf.
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12-13-2010, 10:56 AM | #5927 |
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Well, the Valar be thanked - otherwise my last guess would have been 'the perfume Galadriel puts on for special nights with Celeborn' (not very canonical, I'm afraid).
That was a tough nut to crack, Tuor! Lovely! (If I'm allowed just one minor nitpick, I would have said the mist was a substance rather than an object; but never mind.) And I'm really grateful you didn't pick Helm's punch - we might have had to rename this thread '200 Questions on ME'! Now let me just think a bit on something sufficiently esoteric to match this...
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12-13-2010, 04:27 PM | #5928 |
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Good job, Pitch! I would never have thought of that! Not that I really payed any attention to that passage...I don't recall it at all right now... But good job!!!
Just the usual: person?
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12-14-2010, 07:57 AM | #5929 |
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Person? - No.
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12-14-2010, 11:34 AM | #5930 |
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Place?
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12-14-2010, 12:59 PM | #5931 |
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Thing?
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12-14-2010, 01:22 PM | #5932 |
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid.
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12-14-2010, 04:04 PM | #5933 |
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Substance?
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12-14-2010, 04:15 PM | #5934 |
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No.
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12-14-2010, 04:20 PM | #5935 |
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event?
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12-14-2010, 04:46 PM | #5936 |
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No. Event? - Nnnot really.
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12-14-2010, 05:01 PM | #5937 |
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hmmm... a word that would define "the punch that Helm Hammerhand killed Freca with"?
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12-14-2010, 05:26 PM | #5938 |
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I think the right word to define a punch would be "hot alcoholic beverage" (although that's three words).
Kidding aside, what you want is a word that would define e.g. "the Curse of Mandos" or "Gandalf's stewardship".
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12-14-2010, 05:34 PM | #5939 | |
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Well. Is this an oath, perhaps?
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12-14-2010, 05:48 PM | #5940 |
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Well, for me a 'thing' is something material, and this isn't. As for what it is, I'd call it a concept.
Anyway, it's not an oath.
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12-14-2010, 06:41 PM | #5941 |
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task?
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12-14-2010, 07:15 PM | #5942 |
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Does it pertain to one particular individual? (Like, to use your own example, "Gandalf's stewardship of Gondor".)
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12-15-2010, 03:40 AM | #5943 |
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No. Event? - Nnnot really. Is this an oath, perhaps? - No. Task? - No. Does it pertain to one particular individual? - No. (Which doesn't mean, however, that it pertains to everybody.)
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12-15-2010, 06:16 AM | #5944 |
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anything to do with ruling something?
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12-15-2010, 12:07 PM | #5945 |
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No. Event? - Nnnot really. Is this an oath, perhaps? - No. Task? - No. Does it pertain to one particular individual? - No. (Which doesn't mean, however, that it pertains to everybody.) Anything to do with ruling something? - Sorry, no.
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12-15-2010, 02:55 PM | #5946 |
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does it pertain to a particular nation? Like, for example, all hobbits are short, all dwarves are sturdy, etc.
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12-15-2010, 03:15 PM | #5947 |
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No. Event? - Nnnot really. Is this an oath, perhaps? - No. Task? - No. Does it pertain to one particular individual? - No. (Which doesn't mean, however, that it pertains to everybody.) Anything to do with ruling something? - Sorry, no. Does it pertain to a particular nation? - Well, I wouldn't call Hobbits, Dwarves etc. nations (race? species?), but if you use the word like that, Yes it does.
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12-15-2010, 03:20 PM | #5948 |
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Well, you are right that they aren't really nations, but you could differentiate between Sindar and Noldor, for example, even though they are both elves. Or with men - men of Esgaroth/dale, Rohan, Gondor, and other places could be called separate nations...
Does it apply to a mortal "nation"?
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12-15-2010, 03:43 PM | #5949 |
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Sorry, Galadriel55 *, seems we misunderstood each other. In your last question you used 'nation' in the sense of e.g. all Hobbits, all Dwarves etc., and I said if you mean it that way, Yes. If you mean 'nation' as in Sindar or Noldor, Gondorians or Rohirrim, it's a No. Get me?
So: Person? - No. Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No. Event? - Nnnot really. Is this an oath, perhaps? - No. Task? - No. Does it pertain to one particular individual? - No. Anything to do with ruling something? - Sorry, no. Does it pertain to a particular 'nation' (in the sense of Hobbits, Dwarves...)? - Yes. Does it apply to a mortal "nation"? - It does apply to mortals. *can we perhaps shorten your name somehow without getting you mixed up with the other Galadriel?
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12-15-2010, 04:05 PM | #5950 |
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Sorry about that misconception. I'm not very good with explanations, as you can see...
Is the mortal race/nation humans? You can call me G55, if you want. I don't mind the least! I do have a long name: G-a-l-a-d-r-i-e-l-5-5, to long to write fully every time you want to say something to me
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Person? - No.
Place? - No. Thing? - Not really that either, I'm afraid. Substance? - No. Event? - Nnnot really. Is this an oath, perhaps? - No. Task? - No. Does it pertain to one particular individual? - No. Anything to do with ruling something? - Sorry, no. Does it pertain to a particular 'nation' (in the sense of Hobbits, Dwarves...)? - Yes. Does it apply to a mortal "nation"? - It does apply to mortals. Is the mortal race/nation humans? - Yep! Quote:
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12-15-2010, 05:52 PM | #5952 |
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The Gift/Doom (depending on the spin) of Men?
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12-15-2010, 06:54 PM | #5953 |
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You beat me to it, Nerwen! I bet that's the answer!
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12-16-2010, 09:02 AM | #5954 |
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... and of course it is; 'the Gift of the One to Men', as the Eldar say. Correct, Nerwen! Your turn.
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12-16-2010, 04:13 PM | #5955 |
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person?
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12-16-2010, 05:27 PM | #5956 |
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Place?
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12-16-2010, 06:27 PM | #5957 |
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Person? –no.
Place? –no.
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12-16-2010, 06:46 PM | #5958 |
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Object?
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12-16-2010, 07:23 PM | #5959 |
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Object? –yes.
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12-16-2010, 07:32 PM | #5960 |
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Intelligent-creature made object?
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