Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, Quarantine Thread

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

We'll be also most curious about your input and ideas and all.

Well, I shall do all I can. I'll have to get cracking and catch up here.

[Lhunardawen]

I will make up one way or another for your absence in my list, Zil. I promise!

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by lhunardawen

i will make up one way or another for your absence in my list, zil. I promise!

:d

[Lhunardawen]

If it's any consolation to you, I didn't think you were bad, either.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

If it's any consolation to you, I didn't think you were bad, either.

I should hope not!

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

If it's any consolation to you, I didn't think you were bad, either.

I did!

hS

[Inziladun]

I'm only part way through this thread, but it never ceases to amaze me that when I'm a wolf, I'm suspicious because I'm too careful. When I'm innocent, I'm suspicious because I'm too vocal.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Boro

It tells me that dead innocents trusted someone here yesterday

Ya don't say...

I second-guessed my case for Boro being the seer after all this, but re-reading, I still see it. I think what happened was that Boro didn't dream of a wolf, again, so he didn't have any name to give us and didn't want to lose our trust by giving us a mere suspicion only for that mere suspicion to quite possibly turn out to be wrong.

Instead, he used our trust, the wretch! I think Rune was just a more or less random name he threw at us to see what the living would do with it.

Originally Posted by Boro

It might turn up beneficial/we find out more from it tomorrow, but for today, it's too much of a turnaround to make in 2 hours.

This sounds like he primarily expected to learn from it. Both here and in

Originally Posted by Boro

For what it's worth, I would say stay the course, if you weren't going to vote for Rune before the QT vote came out and are only considering him for those reasons than better to go with Ka.

he actively tries to dissuade people from following "our" lead. He didn't actually want to see his bait lynched. Also, assuming Rune is innocent (which he is, for all we and presumably Boro know), his survival leaves the village's trust in us more intact: not following is better than following and being wrong.

Originally Posted by Boro

Most suspicious of Eonwe for the quick latch onto QT's vote.

This, too, looks like he laid a trap.

I can't see an ordo or the Child act the way he does. At all. If he's a wolf faking it, he is showing quite amazing commitment and consistency. Has it ever happened that a wolf faked being the seer (for more than a day or two) and got away with it?

Originally Posted by Boro

Parting words. Didn't have time to accomplish everything I wanted to....

Let's hope he only meant

I intend to take more detailed look at THE Ka, Kath, and Greenie today.

Finally dreaming of Greenie now, since that's the one he didn't get to?


(It did occur to me, too, that Boro might be a wolf and the pack intentionally planned on sacrificing I-don't-like-being-a-wolf Lhuna. I like the idea, I must say, but I don't think it's realistic.)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

(It did occur to me, too, that Boro might be a wolf and the pack intentionally planned on sacrificing I-don't-like-being-a-wolf Lhuna. I like the idea, I must say, but I don't think it's realistic.)

I've seen an argument here for Boro being the Seer. I had toyed with that, partly as a way to explain his odd behavior. But then I'd also picked up Seer vibes from Shasta, as in "X is good, Y is dodgy, end of discussion".

[Inziladun]

For the record, Kit, I do feel bad about drawing attention to your slip. I honestly couldn't see it as anything other than evil intent, and I had no doubt it had been noticed by the wolves already.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

For the record, Kit, I do feel bad about drawing attention to your slip. I honestly couldn't see it as anything other than evil intent, and I had no doubt it had been noticed by the wolves already.

*glaring intensifies*

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

For the record, Kit, I do feel bad about drawing attention to your slip. I honestly couldn't see it as anything other than evil intent, and I had no doubt it had been noticed by the wolves already.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

*glaring intensifies*

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I'm only part way through this thread, but it never ceases to amaze me that when I'm a wolf, I'm suspicious because I'm too careful. When I'm innocent, I'm suspicious because I'm too vocal.

For my part, I suspected you somewhat in the first couple Days because of the lack of being involved in some hotspot of suspicion largely based on feeling off. You didn't get involved in any tussel on D1, and no one started making you the center of attention initially, especially on a wishywashy basis. My first thought was that it must be to avoid focusing the village on you. I had serious doubts of your wolfishness N3 onwards. But like I said on D1, there seems to be a voice in everybody's head that says "Lynch Inzil", and you just can't win with it. If it's there, you're suspicious for its presence. If it's not, you're suspicious for its abscence.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I had serious doubts of your wolfishness N3 onwards. But like I said on D1, there seems to be a voice in everybody's head that says "Lynch Inzil", and you just can't win with it. If it's there, you're suspicious for its presence. If it's not, you're suspicious for its abscence.

According to my stats (woefully out of date), I've survived to the end more than I remembered. It seems I always to start getting suspected by Day 2 or so though.

[Lalaith]

Anyway please can we tell them to lynch Eonwe tomorrow.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Anyway please can we tell them to lynch Eonwe tomorrow.

I wouldn't be opposed to that, of all things.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Anyway please can we tell them to lynch Eonwe tomorrow.

I could get behind that.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

According to my stats (woefully out of date), I've survived to the end more than I remembered. It seems I always to start getting suspected by Day 2 or so though.

I can hardly believe we've played together only once before, and that was 26 games ago!

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Anyway please can we tell them to lynch Eonwe tomorrow.

I can get behind this.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

I can hardly believe we've played together only once before, and that was 26 games ago!

I was thinking I'd played with you at least once, but I had no specific memory. As a result, I had no read whatever of your playing style.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I was thinking I'd played with you at least once, but I had no specific memory. As a result, I had no read whatever of your playing style.

I trusted you were innocent, you trusted I was innocent, thankfully we both were. But Noggie and his spiderlings won.

I'm not sure I even have a playing style to begin with.

[Macalaure]

Unless something else comes up, I'm very ok with going for Eonwe.

[satansaloser2005]

Also up for voting Steve.

[Rikae]

Why are we deciding who to vote in the middle of the night? Let's see who joins us, what they say, what Boro says if he's not that person (if he dies tonight he still gets another dream, right?) Certainly he singled Steve out in his last post like a dreamed wolf and that's good reason as things stand,but chill, folks.

Could be there's another dreamed wolf tomorrow. Could be our vote is likely to be disbelieved and we need to use reverse psychology. Could be Steve seer reveals and outs Boro as a very naughty boy. A lot can happen.

[Lalaith]

Eh, I was just doing a bit of prepping. I've been wanting to off Steve for days and days

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Could be there's another dreamed wolf tomorrow. Could be our vote is likely to be disbelieved and we need to use reverse psychology. Could be Steve seer reveals and outs Boro as a very naughty boy. A lot can happen.

I was mulling the odds that Boro is a wolf trying to look like the Seer.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Why are we deciding who to vote in the middle of the night? Let's see who joins us, what they say, what Boro says if he's not that person (if he dies tonight he still gets another dream, right?) Certainly he singled Steve out in his last post like a dreamed wolf and that's good reason as things stand,but chill, folks.

Could be there's another dreamed wolf tomorrow. Could be our vote is likely to be disbelieved and we need to use reverse psychology. Could be Steve seer reveals and outs Boro as a very naughty boy. A lot can happen.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Eh, I was just doing a bit of prepping. I've been wanting to off Steve for days and days

Eexactly. I mean it's good that we're coming into the Day with some starting idea. We have a "plan A" that we are, under ideal circumstances, going to change into some plan B.

But if no plan B happens and the Day turns out to be a mess, we have something to start from.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I was mulling the odds that Boro is a wolf trying to look like the Seer.

Been thinking that since it came up. But it's fine. If so, then there is still the real Seer.

The worst thing that can happen is that Rune was the Seer, Borowolf suspected him and tried to flush him out, and now we'll find him dead. But then we would also know Boro isn't the Seer...

Plus, there is the thing that whatever Boro is, he gave the impulse to start the Lhunawagon. If he's a Wolf, he may have bussed a packmate to make himself look good, but he still made a sacrifice - and a pretty big one. And even that won't protect him forever. So... I think we don't need to panic. Yet.

(But we should keep an eye on the numbers, the village will soon start getting smaller and smaller.)

[Nogrod]

Galadriel55 – Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1)

Rikae – Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2)

Huinesoron – Hareth, an Infector (voted into QT on Day2)

Kitanna – Huor, the Ranger (infected in the woods by the Infectors on Night3)

Sally – Túrin, the Hunter (voted into QT on Day3)

Macalaure – Grithnir, healthy person (dragged into the QT by the Hunter on Day3)

Legate of Amon Lanc – Asgon, healthy person (infected sneakily on Night4)

Lhunardawen – Sador, an Infector (voted into QT on Day4)

Lalaith – Rían, healthy person (overrun and infected by the Infectors on Night5)

Inziladun – Halmir, healthy person (voted into QT on Day5)

Pitchwife – Turin’s Nurse, healthy person (infected by the Infectors on Night6)

[Lalaith]

Well I'll be...

[Huinesoron]

And it's Pitch! Welcome to the infirmary-booze-thread. Just you stick with me and my buddy G55; we've been here ages, so you can trust us to show you the ropes and who to vote for.

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Alas, poor Túrin's nurse! Welcome among us, Pitchwife, and grab a pint. These are dark times indeed.

We're all ready to hear if you have any input... thoughts... theories... questions...

[Inziladun]

Hello, Pitch! I'm glad not to have voted for you.

[satansaloser2005]

Welcome, good sir Pitchwife!

Random....

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Why is it that every time I vote someone I think I have solid reasons to suspect, they turn innocent (Mac, Sally, and now Zil), and whenever I vote someone because I have a vague suspicious vibe (Gal55, Lhuna) they turn out to be guilty? Maybe I should just stop analysing things and stick to gut feelings from now on...

Or maybe you're just evil?

[Galadriel55]

Ha! Welcome, Pitch!

I was gonna paste a picture of the Duke of Manhattan, but apparently he is not a popular enough meme character.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Or maybe you're just evil?

If she is, I have a major claim to an "I told you so".

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Welcome, good sir Pitchwife!

Random....

Or maybe you're just evil?

On the day we ended up lynching you, first thing in the morning I originally wanted to write a post where I wanted to suggest lynching Lottie and Lommy. Then I went through their posts and reevaluated. How it continued we all know.

If it turns out I was right on these two, I am going to... I don't know what I am going to, but I am definitely going to do it.

[Galadriel55]

The Duke of Manhattan does not assume any responsibility for pandemics that start because of Werewolf games, regardless of his role in said games.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, and Boro just confessed. For easy referrence:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

May you find peace and healing Pitch through these hard times.

Ok, so I think it would be best to explain my oddness yesterday, because I feel like since Day 1 I could be jumped on and lynched in half a heart beat, which is I guess a normal feeling. That would not be good, but everyone deserves an explanation for me being mysterious yesterday.

Rewind to Day 4, I proposed a vote of Lhuna to the QT. That led to the lynching of a wolf. I couldn't remember if anyone else proposed Lhuna, or if it was just me, but I speculated yesterday that it must have meant the innocents in the QT trusted someone here.

I wanted to point the wolves to me and provide cover for the seer, but kind of put me in a bind because I suspected I was the one the QT trusted. So I picked an even more random proposed vote of Rune yesterday. And when the QT agreed it confirmed my feelings. I commented that it was fascinating, because mostly I was amused with being trusted. Got to thinking that a healthy minds don't trust me at all, but something happens when going into the QT that suddenly I was. What does that say about me? Fascinating and amusing.

But the reason for the mystery is I was trying to provide cover for the seer, but send as clear as a signal to the QT that I wasn't so they don't have to follow my vote.

I don't see any benefit to keep up that plan, it was kind of a 1-2 day try to provide cover and maybe get another wolf. In the end I'll be vindicated either in death or in victory. And it will be more beneficial to the community to know this. Maybe I laid it on too thick where the wolves didn't believe it or I have to re-orientate myself and rethink my feelings on others.

In general, I don't think we should sort of play this waiting where not much happens until the QT vote. Part of it is my own schedule, If I don't post at night I definitely won't be able to until 3-4 hours before the DL.

Well. My personal question being something like...

WHERE IN THE NAME OF BEÖR THE OLD IS THE SEER?!?

After yesterDay's events, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be Rune. But to be honest I was thinking for a while that it might be Pitch, given his and Boro's communication. Apparently not. (Which is a good thing.)

[Pitchwife]

Hail and well met, fellow Cuties! I take it my arrival here probably means I was wrong about Rune after all, or he'd be here in my stead treating you all to a round of Viking Blood. (Btw Zil, apologies for contributing to your demise - I didn't feel shiny about lynching you, I just felt less shiny about lynching Rune.)


14 pages of thread? You folks are just as chattery as those outside.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

14 pages of thread? You folks are just as chattery as those outside.

Thankfully, much of it is banter.