WWJ VIII ~ Things That Go "Quack" In The Night

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Morm. I am still waiting for a response on this ...

A fair point. If you suspected Jenny, morm, why did you not suggest that Mith dream of her?

First it seems to me that she is doing it today. Trying to find anything with which to use against me. Second was when she brought up a quote and said something like "Typo? or guilty slip?" when all it truly was just the odd way in which I occasionally word things.

For your second question Sauce I cannot answer that because I do not remember how I felt at the time. I remember that Ang was at my throat and annoying me greatly, I doubted that he was guilty, being too bold, but I wanted to know for certain. Roa seemed guilty too. I cannot say why I didn't put Jenny in there.

Now I am put in an awkward position. I believe Kath is guilty, but I do not feel quite as strongly now as I did this morning as some good questions have been raised about Nogrod. I do not feel inclined to vote for Nogrod as I think it's more probable that Kath is the lone Duck.

Originally Posted by Cailin

I reckon it's only polite to look for a replacement when suddenly something comes up, instead of leaving a game where already two had left. I wouldn't base my suspicions on that.

I quite agree we already lost three innocents by them leaving suddenly.

[Nogrod]

Some more on Morm...

#297 There are many back-ups - kind of toning down reservations, but the basic message seems to be: If Spawn is guilty, then Mith is a goose. Then he goes to list who not to dream: those who are on many (suspicion?) lists, not Mith, not himself (again!)

On the third morning he still sees Mith as an obvious Goose (#305).

But after the failed dream by Glirdan, attacks him somewhat vaguely in #331 (a duck might want to do just that?)

You had a good plan but it unraveled by your idea to not dream. Still if he is the true owl I'd hate to do the duck's job for him/her.

And really. I don't know what to say of it. A goose-Glirdy could have just chosen anyone to say he dreamt of - because he was alive!!! It would have taken another one down? He could have been believed... and there is also the possibility, that he was a right Owl too (remember: Diamond never agreed or disagreed the two-Owls question, even asked - and she answered)

So a duck Morm would first go against Mith, because he knew myself and Spm. innocent - and so Mith an Owl, but after Glirdy "fumbled", turned against him as soon as he could - just to save his neck - and then to spread suspicion on me (not on Spm so much, as he was "double-secured", but still reminding us of the possibility).

I'm so sorry, this is now kind of "midway through"...

Well, my time's up. Just having one cigarette before the vote.

[mormegil]

Nogrod, what's the point of bringing up the fact that I leave myself of the lists? I don't find myself suspicious at all therefore I will not do an analysis of myself. At least one of the ducks included herself on her list stating something like "well I cannot possibly be guilty etc..." What difference does it make? Of couse I cannot do an objective analysis of myself. Your sudden vehement turn seems odd and makes me wonder even more about what SpM has said about you.

[mormegil]

and there is also the possibility, that he was a right Owl too (remember: Diamond never agreed or disagreed the two-Owls question, even asked - and she answered)

And I've been one of the ones who's been in agreement on that fact. Now Nogrod will you care to explain to me why you've been more vocal on Owl/goose theories today than on finding a duck? The majority of us agree that it's most probable that the goose and owl(s) are dead so why bother rehashing it?

Valier is most likely innocent as Mith was indeed the true owl. Glidan was most likely the goose. You and Sauce are most likely innocent though there is a good chance that you were converted. We cannot go over every possible scenario of who's the goose and who's the owl...did we have two or only one is the goose really dead...it's all diverting us from talking about ducks!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by mormegil

And I've been one of the ones who's been in agreement on that fact. Now Nogrod will you care to explain to me why you've been more vocal on Owl/goose theories today than on finding a duck? The majority of us agree that it's most probable that the goose and owl(s) are dead so why bother rehashing it?

I think I have spent more time with duck hunt (or more important time - I wrote those speculations during my noon - when no-one had basically said anything...), but surely the question is a good one. That's because I think we shouldn't leave the possibilities unseen. It would make a difference, if Mith was a goose - or if they both were owls. The majority is not always right. And especially in the game like this, you would be very unwise just to trust the majority - whose views could be directed by intelligent ducks...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Nogrod, what's the point of bringing up the fact that I leave myself of the lists?
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Your sudden vehement turn seems odd and makes me wonder even more about what SpM has said about you.

It's not a point as such. But added to a pile it is, a little, but still something (not much, I admit). But you should answer the overall picture. I know, there are many points that are arguable - and not so bad alone. You could pick one, two or three... But summed up, they look quite bad.

But I have not made a sudden turn. You know that very well. I have suspected you many days now - and voiced it too.

I admit, that looking at someone's post's with the "evil eye" -method (which I have done) may get too convincing in one's own eyes - and I admit this possibility. But your almost monomaniac insistence on killing Kath - and your fast turn to try and befriend Spm (after he thought of someone else to lynch - which is, btw. the idea I have also hailed: to see all the possibilities) were just the things that urged me to take this look on you more than to Kath.

I know I may be wrong, but still I will have to go to sleep, and vote as I believe right.

++ Morm

[Nogrod]

Triple posting...

Btw.

If you Morm can show, that all the suspicions raised by me, Spm and Kath + at least Ang earlier, are not good reasons to lynch you. We have still a couple of hours and four votes to save you with some good points.

[mormegil]

*throws arms in the air in exasperation*

and your fast turn to try and befriend Spm

GAK! It seems that nothing I do can be viewed in its true light.

I will either vote for Kath or Nogrod regardless of saving my own life as I think they look the most guilty.

[Cailín]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And to the second: Yes, it was my intention to make someone confused, who thought this was all wrapped and ready. With that kind of an effort, we stand very small chance to any intelligent duck here, as we have only two chances to get it right...

I can only agree with that, I can't really base my opinion about the Owl / Goose thing on any hard facts but Mithalwen has been helpful throughout the game till the point where she died, while Glirdan didn't dream about anyone, maybe he was just afraid of guessing wrong about someone.

Nogrod has been put in a different light for me, because of the things the Saucepan Man has said about you. That said, I got some weird feeling about SpM, mainly by something Nogrod said.

As if it is their first actual gamenight's (night2) kill, we should really look for the one they would have liked to kill!

Wouldn't Saucepan Man's fame make him a likely target? He's a very good analyser. It's not unlikely that he was attacked and turned. Mithalwen said she dreamed about him the night before she revealed herself, so it is a possibility, if at least the Ducks turned him after Mithalwen's dream, which was the same night.

So Kath and Mormegil, it seems one of both will be the one dying tonight. Some interesting points have been made about Mormegil today, which made me suspect him more then I did yesterday ( yeah I do realise my opinion about Morm has been changing a lot .. ).

I'm gonna stick around for ~20 more minutes before making my vote, I'm still thinking on it.

[mormegil]

++Kath

Though when I die today please look at Kath and Nogrod most carefully tomorrow.

[Cailín]

It's 3:17 in the morning here so I'm not gonna stick around any longer
I'll vote for Kath as she didn't really convince me yet on her voting pattern, which is why I voted on her yesterday. And it does seem like Mormegil has been looked at from a rather bad view today, making him look worse then he is, but I might be wrong.. well goodnight, may the last voters make the right decision.

++ Kath

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, despite all the din and clamour of Kath and morm squabbling, I have been giving serious thought to the possibility that both may be innocent.

I am still working on the basis that Mith was the true Owl, since that seems the most credible scenario to me. And on that basis, I believe Valier to be innocent.

If Cailín is a Duck, then the substiution of non-Cailín and his ensuing quietness has served them well. But there really isn’t enough to go on. I have seen little otherwise to suggest that he/she is a Duck and so cannot, in all conscience, vote for him/her.

Nogrod concerns me because I think it quite possible that he was targeted by the Ducks on Night 2. Certainly, his approach seems to have changed after Day 1. He has been much less abrasive and sounded much more reasonable. Which, given his reputation, worries me. His raising the possibility of Valier being a Duck also worries me, as it is precisely what a Duck would do. Yet it’s not quite enough to merit a vote. Not today, at least.

And so I am back to morm and Kath.

I find most of morm’s points against Kath to be weak. The only real point that I can see against her is her voting record. But, on closer inspection, it looks decidedly non-Duckish. I really don’t believe that a Duckish Kath would have allowed herself to vote for someone other than the Duck that was lynched three days running. And, if a Duck, her best Day 2 vote would surely have been for spawn, who was almost certain to be lynched at the time she voted (post-Glirdan’s revelation).

The case against morm is far stronger. His flip-flopping over the Mith/Glirdan revelations (which seems a Duckish approach). His efforts to dissuade Mith from dreaming of him. His votes for spawn and Jenny (at times when they were almost certain to be lynched), calculated, I think, to gain credibility. His defensiveness throughout. His single-minded pursuit of Kath today and seeming refusal to seriously consider any alternatives. Together with the good points that Nogrod has brought up, this all, to my mind, strongly points to morm being our final Duck.

+ + MORMEGIL

[mormegil]

Well since I have three votes and my fate is decided I might as well let you all know that I am indeed....innocent. I'm sorry I'm not your last duck to provide victory but I will go to the gallows with my conscience clear and may Mandos accept me and keep me well.

[Valier]

Well since there is no hope of a double lynch, I might as well vote now..

++Kath

Since this may be my last night if we don't catch a Duck...Farewell all! (hopefully I'm wrong)

[Diamond18]

I'm going to end the Day early since everyone has voted.

Mormegil: III (Kath, Nogrod, SpM)

Kath: III (Morm, Cailín, Valier)

Death will be up shortly.

[Diamond18]

The villagers were split on who to kill, but those for Morm got the upper hand, and finally the elven idleman threw his hands in the air and with an exclamation, “GAK! It seems that nothing I do can be viewed in its true light.”

He submitted to his death sentence with a few last words, and then it was time for the villagers to decide the method of his fate.

“He didn’t really have a true occupation, just idled about,” opinionated Kath.

“Good point,” agreed Nogrod.

“Let’s work him to death!” decided Saucepan Orc.

And so they put the idleman in chains and set him to various odious and difficult tasks, all the while lashing him with whips. He submitted to his trials with grim and silent determination. First he mowed Kath’s lawn, which took a very long time since Kath’s lawn was the size of a football field. Then he underwent a rigorous workout under Nogrod’s supervision -- the Dwarven Personal Fitness Instructor smoked a ciggie and lashed Morm languidly as the elf did push-ups military style. Then they took him out to Saucepan Orc’s field and tied him to a pole under the hot midday sun. After all the crows in the vicinity got as far away as they could from the bizarre proceedings, the villagers took Morm down and forced him make bricks without straw. Since they did not allow him water or rest this entire time, he eventually expired from dehydration and exhaustion.

He bore it all with a solemn nobility true to his elven lineage and said a prayer to Mandos before he expired.

~~~~~~~~~

~ The Dead ~

Diamond Took, the Halfling Poet ~ Villager ~ Pecked to death on Night 1
Nilpaurion Felagund the Elven Pigeon-Summoning Ninja ~ Wereduck ~ Waxed on, waxed off on Day 1
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant the Spider Loving Orcish Astronaut ~ Wereduck ~ Stuffed full of spiders and choked to death on Day 2
Elu Ancalime the Didgeridoo Dwarf ~ Villager ~ Struck by Mod Fire from above on Day 2
Lalaith the Halfling Chubb Fuddler ~ Villager ~ Boiled, mashed, and cooked in a stew on Night 3
Roa Aoife the Batwoman ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but rejoined her regiment on Day 3
Sleepy Ranger the Exiled Jedi Master ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but departed with a droid on Day 3
JennyHallu the Halfling Mountaintop Guru ~ Wereduck ~ Pitchforked to death on Day 3
Anguirel the Baritone Bird Catcher ~ Hawk ~ Gunned down with an M16 on Night 4
Glirdan the Entish Tree Herder ~ Villager ~ Consumed by flames from the Hawk’s cigarette lighter on Night 4
Lote22 the Elven Igloo Maker ~ Villager ~ Encased in a block of ice on Day 4
Mithalwen the Elven Saggar Maker's Bottom Knocker ~ Villager ~ Melted down and made into pottery glaze on Night 5
Mormegil the Elven Idleman ~ Villager ~ Worked to death on Day 5

~ The Living ~

Saucepan Man the Orcish Scarecrow
Valier the Dwarven Millet Spray Picker
Nogrod the Dwarven Personal Fitness Instructor
Kath the Rainbow Catcher
Cailín the Bird-portraitist

[Diamond18]

The villagers awoke with a shudder and a shake as they felt their impending doom creep ever closer. With weary, wary steps they dragged themselves to the town square (now known as the Trapezoid of Ever More Desperate Struggles) and looked from face to face to see who had not survived the Night.

Valier the dwarven millet spray picker alone was not present. So, inevitably, they turned their steps toward her home. They found her in the front yard, or rather, they found a glass box with her inside. Hundreds, nay, thousands of abnormally large mosquitoes swarmed around her inert form, and the villagers recoiled in horror. (You’d think they’d be used to grisly death by now, but no.) For Valier’s body, on closer inspection, was shriveled and pale, all drained of blood by the thirsty little buggers.

“Giant vampire mosquitoes from the black swamp,” gasped a villager who will remain unnamed because I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you. “Ten thousand times more deadly than regular mosquitoes, they can suck a person dry in ten minutes!”

Several gasps met this bit of information, and the villagers each made a mental note not to open the box.

~~~~~~~~~

~ The Dead ~

Diamond Took, the Halfling Poet ~ Villager ~ Pecked to death on Night 1
Nilpaurion Felagund the Elven Pigeon-Summoning Ninja ~ Wereduck ~ Waxed on, waxed off on Day 1
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant the Spider Loving Orcish Astronaut ~ Wereduck ~ Stuffed full of spiders and choked to death on Day 2
Elu Ancalime the Didgeridoo Dwarf ~ Villager ~ Struck by Mod Fire from above on Day 2
Lalaith the Halfling Chubb Fuddler ~ Villager ~ Boiled, mashed, and cooked in a stew on Night 3
Roa Aoife the Batwoman ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but rejoined her regiment on Day 3
Sleepy Ranger the Exiled Jedi Master ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but departed with a droid on Day 3
JennyHallu the Halfling Mountaintop Guru ~ Wereduck ~ Pitchforked to death on Day 3
Anguirel the Baritone Bird Catcher ~ Hawk ~ Gunned down with an M16 on Night 4
Glirdan the Entish Tree Herder ~ Villager ~ Consumed by flames from the Hawk’s cigarette lighter on Night 4
Lote22 the Elven Igloo Maker ~ Villager ~ Encased in a block of ice on Day 4
Mithalwen the Elven Saggar Maker's Bottom Knocker ~ Villager ~ Melted down and made into pottery glaze on Night 5
Mormegil the Elven Idleman ~ Villager ~ Worked to death on Day 5
Valier the Dwarven Millet Spray Picker ~ Villager ~ Sucked dry by giant vampire mosquitoes from the black swamp on Night 6

~ The Living ~

Saucepan Man the Orcish Scarecrow
Nogrod the Dwarven Personal Fitness Instructor
Kath the Rainbow Catcher
Cailín the Bird-portraitist

[Nogrod]

That wasn't surprising at all, sad to say that.

Well. Today seems to be our last chance (there surely is the possible miracle of a living nightingale making the save next night).

There are two dreamt of's in the village - and two not dreamt of's. But even though the odds for me or Spm to have been turned into a duck are small, we should not totally ignore those possibilities. Today we just will have to look at everything.

Then I hope, that everyone will have a possibility to vote as late as possible. I myself will probably have to vote first (+3GMT), though. As there are only four of us, the first gaining only two votes will be our lynch - no matter what kind of things people might come up with after that.


And just a short answer to Spm - kind of opening today's discussions from one side - as he has been weary of me changing my playing style after the first day. That is just perfectly normal. Those who have played with me surely know it. As I hate random accusations and just in role chit-chat on dAY1, I like to try and stir some serious discussion about priciples, tactics etc. It almost always heats the discussion and opens some real positions. From dAY2 onwards that is no longer necessary, as there most of the times is already something more substantial to go after.

[Nogrod]

Another opening. A thing I'm getting a bit worried about.

If it is, like Spm said, that the conversion on night2 happened to the one the ducks intended to kill, then I'm getting very weary about Spm himself.

Why?
- He seemed to be quite at home with the picking method, how could he be so assured? (Ok., I'm that much of a newbie still, that I may just be ignorant of a basic procedure.)
- Were I a duck, I would have a strong inclination to pick a player like Spm as my first kill. (I know, that Spm has stated the same about me)
- I did arouse some suspicion on dAY1 (also a vote), but don't remember Spm getting any. This of course should be checked (and I will, later as I have time).

Well. Making both me and Spm look suspicious. But then again, it doesn't prove, that they didn't pick Cailin or Kath...

Or then the duck left is one of the originals, leaving me and Spm innocent, and Cailin & Kath to choose from. After night2, we have killed both Spawn and Jenny. Either of them could have been the converted duck.

Tricky.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Today we just will have to look at everything.

With this, I heartily agree. If we don’t get it right today, the chances of a village victory are slim. That means that all of us still here need to speak up and share our opinions, theories and ideas. Is Cailín back with us? If not, then past day’s events would suggest that non-Cailín will not be with us until much nearer the deadline.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And just a short answer to Spm - kind of opening today's discussions from one side - as he has been weary of me changing my playing style after the first day. That is just perfectly normal. Those who have played with me surely know it.

It’s not so much the change in substance as the change in style that concerns me. You seemed to become a lot less aggressive and argumentative after Day 1. And your voting record, I’m afraid, is not great. You have voted only once for a known Duck. And that was at a time when said Duck (spawn) was likely to be lynched. Other than that, you have voted twice for known innocents and once for an unknown (Kath). It doesn’t make you the last Duck. But it certainly puts you well in the reckoning.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If it is, like Spm said, that the conversion on night2 happened to the one the ducks intended to kill, then I'm getting very weary about Spm himself.

As you said, we have to consider all options. But I can assure you that I am not a Duck.

I have a feeling that the Nightingale may still be among us. If so, they were right not to declare themselves yesterday. But I wonder if they should do so today. The upside, of course, is that we would narrow our list of potential Ducks. The downside, however, is that, if we choose wrongly today, there is still a chance that they may save the remaining innocent overnight, leading to an almost certain village victory tomorrow. What do people think?

[The Saucepan Man]

Hmmm. I have just remembered how keen Nogrod seemed yesterday to keep alive the possibility (contrary to the evidence, in my view) that Mith was the Goose and that Valier might therefore still be the last Duck. Valier’s death shows us that she was innocent. Surely only the Duck would have wanted to keep her in the reckoning. The rest of us, I think, had pretty much discounted her as innocent. Are you the Duck, Nogrod? It’s looking pretty much that way to me.

[Kath]

To answer your point about the Nightingale, SPM, I'm not sure that revealing themselves would be a great deal of help to us. We need a situation toNight where the Nightingale and the Duck go for the same person. If the Nightingale reveals themselves the Duck will probably go for them. That still leaves us one innocent down, and it's more of a blow to the village.

As to your ideas about Nogrod, they do make sense. I have been uncomfortable with the way he has been trying to discredit Mith, especially after her death when she cannot argue her corner. All it did was sow confusion.

Nogrod's arguments about SPM possibly being the Duck seem well-founded. It is true to say that SPM had no (or very little) suspicion directed his way on Day 1, but actually Nogrod, that's quite normal. People don't tend to start suspecting SPM for a couple of Days, and therefore your idea that the Ducks would want to kill him first Night seems off to me. The difference in opinion here may just be that I've played more games with him though.

As for Cailin, I want to hear from her/him toDay before I make any decisions on that front.

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, it’s very quiet today. Which is to be expected, I suppose, with so few villagers left. Yet I am surprised that Nogrod is not more vocal. It’s unlike him to be so quiet.

If Cailín is the Duck, then she has played a blinder and flown almost completely beneath our radars. If so, she almost deserves to win. But I am inclined to think her innocent.

I am also inclined to view Kath as innocent, for the reasons which I stated yesterday. Her voting record looks wholly un-Duckish to me. I would have expected a Duck to vote for spawn following Glirdan’s revelation.

Which leaves me with Nogrod. And everything points to him as being the transformed Duck. The change in style after Day 1. The reaction to the Mith/Glirdan revelations and his vote for spawn on Day 2. A Duck would presumably have thought Glirdan the true Owl, as he had named spawn as a Duck, and would be concerned not to be seen trying to save spawn. It therefore looks a very Duckish vote, particularly as, unbeknownst to us, there would still be two Ducks left following spawn’s death. The attempt to confuse yesterday by clinging to the possibility of a Goosey Mith and, to an extent, today by seeking to implicate me. And also his relativeness quietness today, which is unusual for him. I suspect that he is lurking, waiting to see which way village opinion is turning.

I am tempted to vote for him right now. Yet I will hold off, as we are likely to get only one chance at this and I would like to hear the thoughts of the others first.

[Cailín]

In reply to your question about the Nightingale, if any of us would say 'I am the nightingale', would you believe them and not vote for them? Say the duck would pretend to be the nightingale and we wouldn't vote for him / her tonight, it would result in a village loss, or even more confusion if one person pretends to be the nightingale and the real nightingale says 'No, I am the nightingale.' . I don't think it's the best idea if the nightingale declares himself now, but rather remain quiet.

I think there's only 2 options that can be the last remaining duck, Kath and the Saucepan Man . I think Nogrod was under way too much suspicion to be the Duck's target in the first night. However, like Nogrod said, I wouldn't want SpM to be in a game against me.

I've been reading through the post of Jenny and Spawn the first days trying to see if one of them might have been the changed Duck. Jenny makes an attempt so save Nilp in the first Day, Spawn doesn't say much at all day 1, so it's kinda hard to point out anything that would make her seem changed after the first night. She starts bashing on our Owl in day 2 though, and I can understand why Ducks wouldn't want to be against her, so she would make a logical kill. That would make Kath the last remaining duck.

Crossposted with SpM, and yes I'm still Non-Cailin. However I'm trying to take breaks every now and then from studying for my final exams to post a bit more often.

[The Saucepan Man]

Cailín, I should remind you that the only possibility of me being a Duck is if the Ducks’ notification of who they were intending to kill on Night 2 came in after Mith’s notification of who she wished to dream of. Pretty short odds, I’d say.

Originally Posted by Cailín

I think there's only 2 options that can be the last remaining duck, Kath and the Saucepan Man.

Interesting that you exclude yourself from the list. And I really don’t see how you can discount Nogrod. My impression was that there was very little suspicion of him at the end of Day 1 but, in light of your comment, I went back to check. The only serious suspicion of him came from mormegil, who voted for him. But that was a Day 1 vote, based on very little information, and so likely to change. In those circumstances, I think it quite possible that the Ducks will have targeted Nogrod on Night 2. He has shown himself to be a formidable player in the past. And, if I am right about him being a Duck, he has lived up to that reputation in this game.

Originally Posted by Cailín

That would make Kath the last remaining duck.

… or you.

And where is Nogrod? He's usually a pretty much permanent fixture in the village throughout the Day ...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by me

Pretty short odds, I’d say.

Oops! I meant long odds.

I am, after all, an Orc of little brain.

[Kath]

Cailin I don't see your logic. The way I see it, Mith was the Owl and dreamt of SPM on Night 2 and found him innocent. If the Ducks chose to kill SPM after Mith received her dream then yes, he could be a Duck, but that is a pretty slim chance I feel, and far less likely than the scenario where Nogrod is the Duck.

As SPM says, Nogrod was not under a great deal of suspicion that first Day. But I should say he was a good choice for a first kill. He has proved himself to be a formidable player in the past.

Have you any other reasons for believing Nogrod innocent? Because at the moment the arguments for his guilt are far more compelling.

[Nogrod]

Here I am. And sorry to say, very shortly for now (at the school still, overlooking a student-band-cavalcade).

Just a point about the possibilities:

If the primary ducks were Nilp - Jenny - Spawn, we should look at all of us with the eye: could someone of us be the first kill for the ducks (so how we behaved, how we were suspected etc.).

If the primary ducks were Nilp - Jenny + Cailin/ Kath, we should consider, whether Spawn would be a good kill for the ducks first.

If the primary ducks were Nilp - Spawn + Cailin/ Kath, we should consider, whether Jenny would be a good kill for the ducks first.

Of these I see the Spawn-kill as the most obvious one. But others could be possible. The thing is: whatever we go to vote for, it should make sense on this first-kill level too.

I'll be back with more, as I get home (I'll be free from here about 7PM GMT).

And please Spm, don't say that it is suspicious from me to say that you might be a duck - as you have slowly started to build your case on me from yesterday onwards...

PS. About the goosy-Mith: I have always said, that we should look at all the possibilities. There is still something in that stuff that bothers me, but maybe I'm just overkeen to see problems where there are none...

EDIT: X-posted with Kath & Spm

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, I’m pretty much convinced that Nogrod is our last Duck.

So …

+ + NOGROD

I hope that I have chosen wisely.

[Kath]

Nogrod, you seem to have conveniently left off the possibility that you were an original or changed Duck! You say you want to look at every possibility, well to make sense of the kills I'd say that needs to be up there.

++NOGROD

Looks most Duckish to me.

EDIT: Cross-posted with SPM's vote.

[The Saucepan Man]

So, Nogrod, are you the Duck ...?

[The Saucepan Man]

... because you don't look at all Duckish to me, and I would hate to think that I have made a mistake.

*Honk! Honk!*

er …

I mean *Quack! Quack!*

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Kath

Nogrod, you seem to have conveniently left off the possibility that you were an original or changed Duck! You say you want to look at every possibility, well to make sense of the kills I'd say that needs to be up there.

++NOGROD

Looks most Duckish to me.

EDIT: Cross-posted with SPM's vote.

I couldn't be the original - if Mith was the seer. Sorry.

And I said all of us should be looked, if the changed one is among us.


Sad to say, but the duck won...

I kind of remember saying in the morning, that you shouldn't be hasty with your votes, as two votes are enough: and as you see, the first vote given will be immediately followed by a similar vote... sealing the duck victory.

But anyhow. This was fun, as long as it lasted.

[Diamond18]

Er, I don't have Noggie's death written, so you'll have to wait half an hour or so. But he's doomed so you can consider this the Not-Deadline.

Edit: those still alive can continue to talk, however.

[Kath]

So upon Nogrod's death the Duck will have won?

[Nogrod]

Without the nightingale, yes.

And as Diamond was coming in already, we seem to not have that little bird anymore...

S/he could have saved the game, though... saving the other one (50-50 chance). And then the duck to the gallows tomorrow.

But as I said. This was a lots of fun - although I consider this last one as part foolishness - and part cunningness of the duck.

EDIT: Surely it is Diamond's decision, when the game ends.

[Diamond18]

The villagers turned on Nogrod swiftly, and before he knew what hit him, he was knocked on the head and tied up. When he came to he found Saucepan Orc and Kath busy digging a hole.

“What are you doing?” he asked. “I’m not the Duck!”

“Maybe you became the Duck,” said Saucepan Orc. “We’re going to put you in this hole and then beat you with dumbbells until your ancestral memory of being a Duck returns.”

“Then we’re going to kill you,” said Kath cheerfully.

With that, they hoisted him up and plopped him in the hole. Then the beat him savagely with dumbbells and various sundry fitness equipment, verbally abusing him all the while, until his ancestral memory returned and he exclaimed weakly, “Friend! The password is ‘friend’!”

“That’s nice,” said his attackers, and Kath leveled a stunning death blow to his noggin.

“I have a bad feeling about this,” said Not-Cailín as he watched the body of Nogrod not-transform.

Kath smiled devilishly. “Funny, I feel quite good,” and she morphed into a large, fearsome duck with a gleaming bill and nasty, beady little eyes.

“You can’t take two of us!” exclaimed Not-Cailín, and turned to Saucepan Orc for support. To his horror, he saw not Saucepan Orc, but a large, smug looking Goose.

“Honk,” said Saucepan Goose.

Kath waddled up to Not-Cailín and quacked, “Now listen, you’re going to paint us a portrait, got that? And if you make it a nice one, maybe, just maybe, I’ll let you live. You would like that, wouldn’t you, little human?”

“Y-yes,” gulped Not-Cailín, and quickly assembled his painting supplies. He then worked as if his life depended on it... which it sort of did... and painted the most stunning and beautiful portrait that has ever been painted of a Goose and a Wereduck.

Quath and Saucepan Goose looked at it, and were well pleased. Not-Cailín breathed a sigh of relief. This was, tragically, his last breath of life, for Quath immediately dunked his head into a bucket of magenta paint and held him under until he expired.

She turned to Saucepan Goose. “My lady,” he honked, “I am at your service. Let me always be by your side! I am nothing more than a humble goose, not a noble Wereduck such as yourself. But if you say ‘no’ or kill me, my goosey heart shall break, for I would do anything for your duckishly delightful self!”

“Well aren’t you just the cutest goose that ever lived,” she quacked, tweaking his bill. And then they waddled off into the sunset together, heading in the direction of Wereduck pond. And this is what the Wereduck poets have written about their story:

Saucepan said to the Duck, “You elegant fowl!
How charmingly sweet you sing!
O let us be married! too long have we tarried;
But what shall we do for a ring?”

(Non rhyming narrator interlude: well they now own the whole village, so finding a ring shouldn’t be hard, and anyway where do a Duck and Goose wear rings anyway? Don’t trouble yourself with such details, it ruins the poem.)

They dined on villagers, and slices of quince
Which they ate with a rucible spoon;
And wing in wing, on the edge of the pond
They danced by the light of the moon
The moon
The moon,
They danced by the light of the moon!

~~~~~~~~~

~ The Dead ~

Diamond Took, the Halfling Poet ~ Villager ~ Pecked to death on Night 1
Nilpaurion Felagund the Elven Pigeon-Summoning Ninja ~ Wereduck ~ Waxed on, waxed off on Day 1
Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant the Spider Loving Orcish Astronaut ~ Wereduck ~ Stuffed full of spiders and choked to death on Day 2
Elu Ancalime the Didgeridoo Dwarf ~ Villager ~ Struck by Mod Fire from above on Day 2
Lalaith the Halfling Chubb Fuddler ~ Nightingale ~ Boiled, mashed, and cooked in a stew on Night 3
Roa Aoife the Batwoman ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but rejoined her regiment on Day 3
Sleepy Ranger the Exiled Jedi Master ~ Villager ~ Not dead, but departed with a droid on Day 3
JennyHallu the Halfling Mountaintop Guru ~ Wereduck ~ Pitchforked to death on Day 3
Anguirel the Baritone Bird Catcher ~ Hawk ~ Gunned down with an M16 on Night 4
Glirdan the Entish Tree Herder ~ Owl ~ Consumed by flames from the Hawk’s cigarette lighter on Night 4
Lote22 the Elven Igloo Maker ~ Villager ~ Encased in a block of ice on Day 4
Mithalwen the Elven Saggar Maker's Bottom Knocker ~ Owl ~ Melted down and made into pottery glaze on Night 5
Mormegil the Elven Idleman ~ Villager ~ Worked to death on Day 5
Valier the Dwarven Millet Spray Picker ~ Villager ~ Sucked dry by giant vampire mosquitoes from the black swamp on Night 6
Nogrod the Dwarven Personal Fitness Instructor ~ Villager ~ Beaten to death with dumbbells and various sundry fitness equipment on Day 6
Cailín the Bird-portraitist ~ Villager ~ Drowned in a bucket of magenta paint on Day 6

~ The Living ~

Saucepan Man the Orcish Scarecrow ~ Goose
Kath the Rainbow Catcher ~ Wereduck

Result: Duck/Goose victory

[Kath]

Sauce you are an absolute gem! For the longest time I couldn't work out why on earth you were supporting me. Cheers for that, I couldn't have made it without you!

[Diamond18]

Congratulations to Kath and Saucey for a game well played. It was rather stunning how Kath (with help from her loyal Goose) managed to come back from the brink of defeat day after day and finally win. I will be giving out awards and comments to everyone in a bit, but you'll have to wait for that....

In the meantime, here are some trivial facts:

Both Glirdan and Mithalwen were Owls.

Jenny was the cursed villager changed into a Duck.

The "secret" was that both sides had a secret agent, one extra Owl for the villagers and one extra Duck for the Wereducks.

Lalaith was the Nightingale.

And here is the behind-the-scenes activity for the game:


Anguirel's picks
d1 - Cailín
n2 - mormegil
d2 - Spawn
n3 - Valier
d3 - Jenny
n4 - Glirdan

Lalaith's picks
n2 - Anguirel
n3 - Glirdan

Glirdan's picks
n1 - Spawn
n2 - SpM
n4 - Mithalwen

Mithalwen's picks
n1 - Nogrod
n2 - SpM
n3 - Anguirel
n4 - Valier

Wereducks' picks:
n2 - JennyHallu
n3 - Lalaith
n4 - Anguirel
n5 - Mithalwen
n6 - Valier

[Valier]

AAAHHHH I knew it! Just knew it! Kath you devil! and SPM I had no idea you were the Goose! Well played!