The Lingering Darkness Planning/Discussion Thread - Page 14 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

piosenniel · 10-26-2003, 02:13 AM

Muddy Bells!!!!!

Tallas is dead! . . . ack!!! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Elora · 10-26-2003, 03:18 AM

Vanwe shall be sure to put his dagger to fine use. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Ealasaide · 10-26-2003, 10:47 PM

I just posted with Benia and wanted to let everyone know that I am not springing any new surprises. When Kaldir says that Naiore stole something from him that he intends to get back, he is referring to intangibles such as his prior life and his dignity.

...and maybe his face! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] although it's not likely he'll be getting
that back.

[ October 26, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

Elora · 10-27-2003, 01:05 AM

Fantastic post, Ealasaide. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Nerindel Did Avanill learn of an Elf called Menecin in nearby Imladris from Tallas, overhearing him whisper that to Vanwe?

Wanted to check if that happened before I go high-tailing it down yet another tangent. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Nerindel · 10-27-2003, 08:43 PM

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Nerindel, I kinda feel sorry for Toby. I'm sure he's not so nasty as to deserve being gangpressed into helping Naiore.

oh! I have plans for master longholes, you feel sorry for him now but you might not think that later as our story progresses [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

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Nerindel Did Avanill learn of an Elf called Menecin in nearby Imladris from Tallas, overhearing him whisper that to Vanwe?

No he learned nothing from Tallas, but knowledge resides in the house if one knows were to look [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

A point that may intrest Barrold, all Tallas journals are leather bound and gilded with mithril, but they are all written in the ancient script of the Noldor. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

RIP Tallas *sniff sniff*

(Irony) the knife Tallas gave to Vanwe, is Barrolds. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Wasn't sure if you missed that or not. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ October 27, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

Elora · 10-28-2003, 06:16 AM

Not at all! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I was planning to put that little gem to good use. As for Tallas' journal, my thanks for that pointer. Should provide interesting reading for one Naiore Dannan, Noldorin Lady of the Swan, of Belfalas Nobility..... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Imladris · 10-29-2003, 05:17 PM

Quick question: are Lespheria and the Rangers going to go back to the woods to see if they can pick up Vanwe's trail?

Nerindel · 10-29-2003, 05:35 PM

Yes! We will go back to the woods to follow Vanwe, Barrold and Anavill's trail, where Lésperia will discover that they are heading towards Tallas' place.

I would think as we approach the old mans house we would discover the their tracks leaving in a different direction.

Léspheria and Amandur would carry on to Tallas's leaving the others to follow Vanwe et all. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

This gives Kaldir et all, ample time to pick up the trail ahead of us. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Nerindel · 10-30-2003, 06:29 PM

Ok, everyone I've put a post up for Amandur, sorry if its a bit long, but it had to be done. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

I'm in the middle of composing a post for Léspheria, which should fill in the blanks in Amandur's posts, but it is late here and I need some sleep!! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

But I have one question before I go, Hilde, Imladris How much do Rauthain and Maethor know about Kaldir, past and present? does either of them know that Benia and Gilly are his Prisoners?

ok I know thats two questions, but I'm really tired! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 10-30-2003, 07:08 PM

Nerindel, Rauthain knew Kaldir before he was taken captive, and grew to know Kaldir’s father after that event took place. He has only recently learned that Kaldir is truly alive, and has no knowledge of Benia & Gilly (though he did see a familiar seeming personage, from the back, with three horses near the Forsaken Inn).

Another couple of points I wanted to mention are that in my mind Rauthain can not read or write and is more or less like an enlisted man among officers in this group.

Hope you had a good rest. I know I'm could use some sleep and it's early yet!

[ November 04, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

Imladris · 10-30-2003, 07:11 PM

There are only a few things that Maethor knows about Kaldir: that he has turned bounty hunter and what Naiore did to him. He does not know about Benia and Gilly.

Nerindel · 10-30-2003, 07:30 PM

Thanks Hilde, Imladris that helps [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Ealasaide it looks like Dúlrain won't find out the truth about Benia till a bit later in our story. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

ok I'm really going to bed now, goodnight. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Ealasaide · 10-30-2003, 10:31 PM

Nerindel - okay! Sounds good. He can feel guilty a little longer! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Everybody - I am working on the post in which Kaldir will find the cave & get back on Naiore's trail. I should have it up sometime tomorrow. It's half done now but I am so tired I can't type anymore tonight. Sorry! Goodnight!

[ October 30, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 10-31-2003, 05:00 AM

Nerindel, the two characters who could figure out that Kaldir has Benia, would be Lespheria and Hanasain. Could Hanasain have mentioned Benia's troubles to Dulrain?

Nerindel · 10-31-2003, 05:56 AM

Hilde,No, Hansian didn't mention it! he was too preoccupied by thoughts of his father [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] imagine [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Anyway my original plan was to have Léspheria and Amandur tell Dúlrain his mistake, but alas the oppertunity was missed, But no matter he will find out eventually.

Another thing Dúlrain, has no Idea that any of the rangers already know of Kaldir's survival least of all that they all know!! So he will be none to please to find out that his revelation is old news, especially with Amandur who he respects not only as a leader but a friend, it will come as a harsh blow that he found Kaldir and never told him.

One more thing, anyone who knows Kaldir personally should also be aware of Dúlrain. Where ever Kaldir went his friend was always found two steps behind, but never in his shadow. The only time they were parted was Ravenfalls hence Dúlrain's guilt.

Also another thing in my mind, Dúlrain once harboured bad feelings towards the Rangers that survived Ravenfalls holding them like himself partially reasonsible for Kaldir's fate, but after the war and his time riding with Hanasain these feelings left him, but I see them returning with his own guilt.

Hilde, its been what 15/16 years since Ravenfalls, so Dúlrain has not recognised Rauthain as one of the men who was with Kaldir at that time, But I'm sure when Rauthain talks about Kaldir he will remember and some of those bad feeling will resurface. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 10-31-2003, 06:04 AM

OOOooo the plot thickens! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Imladris · 10-31-2003, 10:58 AM

Did I mess you up, Nerindel? Because if I did I am so sorry...I didn't know you had wanted to do something...

Ealasaide · 10-31-2003, 12:24 PM

Everybody - I've just posted with Kaldir. Sorry to say, they are still on the hill outside the cave. I hope to post with Benia later today & get them moving so that the Rangers can find the cave.
Sorry to be so pokey! It's just that Kaldir's post had gotten so long and I was still going...
It was time for a change of POV.

Hilde - Gilly can jump in anytime here, too. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Nerindel · 10-31-2003, 03:23 PM

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Did I mess you up, Nerindel? Because if I did I am so sorry...I didn't know you had wanted to do something...

No worries Imladris that is the nature of the game and I'm nothing if not adaptable. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[EDIT] oooh! great post Ealasaide, I can't wait to see Benia's.

[ October 31, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

Elora · 10-31-2003, 06:49 PM

Fantastic work everyone! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I'm having a ball reading along for the moment. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I had planned to post next at nightfall, when Naiore and co had camped down for the night. There's a fair bit to happen in that... including Naiore's change of planned direction, plus a few more ideas that have been bubbling away in my mangled grey matter. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

I don't want to cut anybody else off. Please let me know when your characters are in place and the nightfall post can roll in. I am determined not to gazump anyone.

In fact, if someone else wants to mention the passing of time from day to evening in their posts, that would be great! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I'll just follow that cue most happily.

Nerindel · 10-31-2003, 08:25 PM

Just a quick note to let everyone know that I have edited Léspheria's post to the end of Amandur's. Not that you would miss it of course, another long one am afraid. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 11-01-2003, 06:40 AM

Thanks For letting us know Nerindel. I rely too much on e-mail notification and such things don't show up on that radar screen! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 11-01-2003, 10:47 AM

Imladris I hope that my post is Ok with you and doesn't mess anything up.

Nerindel Sorry it took a while, but Dulrain now has quite a bit to think about. From what I remember, he did not know that Kaldir had been captured.

[edit] Finally, read Lespheria's addition. Beautiful post!

Feel free to mention Rauthain come trotting back at any time.

[ November 01, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

Imladris · 11-01-2003, 12:57 PM

Very nice post, Hilde!

Ealasaide · 11-01-2003, 07:31 PM

Sorry I have been holding things up again. Work & family obligations have been walking all over my writing time again. I will have something up tonight that moves Kaldir & co. along.

Elora - please wait before changing the time frame!!! I need to get my group off of Bree Hill and out of Bree before nightfall.

Ealasaide · 11-01-2003, 07:49 PM

Oh. Well, having read the thread now, I see you didn't wait. I will have to edit mine in at the end of Kaldir's, I guess.

In that case, since I am not holding anyone up, I'll post mine tomorrow when I am not quite so tired & in a better position to write a decent post.

[ November 01, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

Elora · 11-01-2003, 11:30 PM

Yipes! Sorry Ealasaide.... I'll remove mine, save it and post it later so that it makes more sense.

I didn't see your note here until after I had finished crafting up the post.

Again, my apologies. [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]

Everdawn · 11-02-2003, 02:43 AM

I was thinking.. (shock horror!) about how Barrold and Avanill are supposed to have stolen several books form Tallas place. Since it was Avanill who raided the place, and seemign to be the more literary man, im guessing that he must have picked it up...

I really want to do something about this because i believe it could be really interesting. So i need some help... What exactly would the books contain? Im hoping this will be something exclusive to Avanill that he can keep in his mind for later or that it is details about the past of certain figures in society (or details that Tallas may have come across when two of the greatest Bandit threats of Middle Earth came to clashed with oneanother and one was killed.... (Avanill's father) ) Which would make Avanill more and more unsure about whether helping Naiore is the right thing or not...

Help!!! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Nerindel · 11-02-2003, 04:18 AM

Everdawn unless your character can read ancient Noldorin the only words he would be able to read are maybe the names of his parents, that might not be translatable in to that ancient tongue?

The Tomes themselves are more to do with the Elves, Especially the relationship between, Naiore, Vanwe, Menecin, Valaindon (Léspheria's mother)and Léspheria, his and the council of Imladris belief that the Fates of all five are some how bound together or at least intertwined. And of course the revalation that Menecin is still alive and is under the protection of Imladris!

I did not realise when I wrote my post that only Avanill went inside, the destruction I described in my last post was more fitting with Barrold than with Avanill and I also thought that the Mithril bound tomes would catch his eye, as that metal is very rare and would fetch a fair price on the black market! Do I have to adjust my post or is it feasible for us to assume that Barrold entered the house after Avanill??? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

(For some strange reason I thought he had *shrugs*)

Everdawn just an after thought, not all Tallas' books were in ancient tongues,Texts relating to Avanill's parents would likely be in westron and in a more ordinary looking book, don't you think! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ November 02, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

Elora · 11-02-2003, 05:07 AM

Perfectly feasible to assume that Barrold entered after Tallas. He would have pilfered first and destroyed later...

As for the books, I had an idea.... brace yourselves.... hard hats on? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

The tomes that Barrold took are in ancient Noldorin. He lifted them secretively, not trusting Avanill with such a prize, in the hopes of winning some points with Naiore.

However, I think it likely that Tallas had more than those books in his house. Avanill could have found other books that he took, recognising a different value...

Say, books on the history of herbology and local botany.... ancient receipes for plants and herbs.... Tallas' medicinal notes, so to speak.

For his trade, such tomes would be of great value, financial and otherwise.

Naiore' chief interest will be in the books lifted by Barrold. She is a student of lore, a philosopher of a grim bent, and she would immediately recognise their import.

Avanill could use his books to work to his favour. Maybe concocting a new potion of use. Naiore guards her secrets well and only ever purchased raw materials from Avanill's mother. If Avanill proved he had some alchemist knowledge, that would make him both more useful/potent as well as dangerous from Naiore's perspective.

How does that sound? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Hilde Bracegirdle · 11-02-2003, 06:38 AM

Don't forget the Mithril books had a rather stubborn lock. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I imagine that if Tallas keep notes in such rich volumes. Could he not have kept other notes in books, perhaps with gold work?

Ealasaide I do apologize, I feel as though I qued Elora with the reference to the sun! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

[ November 02, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

Ealasaide · 11-02-2003, 11:44 AM

Elora - thanks! I really appreciate it. I will have my post up there this afternoon... come fire or high water! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hilde - no problem! Thanks, everyone, for your patience.

piosenniel · 11-02-2003, 01:38 PM

Please assure me that when you are speaking of the books being written in Noldorin that you mean they are written in Quenyan, as opposed to the common Elvish tongue of this period which would be Sindarin.

From the Ardalambrion site:

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Quenya or High-elven is the most prominent language of the Amanya branch of the Elvish language family. In Aman there were two dialects of Quenya, Vanyarin and Noldorin. For historical reasons, only the latter was used in Middle-earth.

Here is the entire article on Quenya:

QUENYA

Elora · 11-02-2003, 03:22 PM

Yes, I tend to use Noldorin and Quenyan interchangably when referring to language, myself.

I believe the tomes bound in mithril are written in Quenyan, using the Tengwar characters. My prediction is that Tallas will deliberately have chosen to use such a rareified language so as to minimise the risk of the information falling into the wrong hands. Of course, that fact that Naiore is herself Noldorin nobility who hails from ancient times means that she easily reads, writes and speaks Quenyan (her mother tongue) and so can understand the information recorded.

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ealasaide · 11-02-2003, 05:11 PM

My post is up! As far as my characters go, I am ready to move on into nighttime.

Hilde - did you have something you needed Rauthain to do before it is dark? You had mentioned his going to Bree Hill as well and having a look around.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 11-02-2003, 08:19 PM

Shwoa Ealasaide! What a post! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

It's OK for it to become night. Rauthain is going to keep what he saw to himself for now, I think. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Ealasaide · 11-02-2003, 08:48 PM

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Shwoa Ealasaide! What a post!

I hope you mean that in a good way! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Everdawn · 11-03-2003, 01:52 AM

That is a really great idea Elora, ill work something up for it and PM you before I use it though...

Elora · 11-03-2003, 02:51 AM

Great! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Look forward to seeing what you have in mind, Everdawn. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Fantastic work, Easalsaide.

I'll put up the diatribe, erm, I mean the post for Naiore/Vanwe. It transitions from late afternoon to evening.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 11-03-2003, 05:03 AM

Yes Ealasaide, in the best possible way!

10-26-2003, 02:13 AM	#521
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Muddy Bells!!!!! Tallas is dead! . . . ack!!! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

10-26-2003, 03:18 AM	#522
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Vanwe shall be sure to put his dagger to fine use. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

10-27-2003, 01:05 AM	#524
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Fantastic post, Ealasaide. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Nerindel Did Avanill learn of an Elf called Menecin in nearby Imladris from Tallas, overhearing him whisper that to Vanwe? Wanted to check if that happened before I go high-tailing it down yet another tangent. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

10-28-2003, 06:16 AM	#526
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Not at all! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I was planning to put that little gem to good use. As for Tallas' journal, my thanks for that pointer. Should provide interesting reading for one Naiore Dannan, Noldorin Lady of the Swan, of Belfalas Nobility..... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

10-29-2003, 05:17 PM	#527
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	Quick question: are Lespheria and the Rangers going to go back to the woods to see if they can pick up Vanwe's trail? __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

10-26-2003, 10:47 PM	#523
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	I just posted with Benia and wanted to let everyone know that I am not springing any new surprises. When Kaldir says that Naiore stole something from him that he intends to get back, he is referring to intangibles such as his prior life and his dignity. ...and maybe his face! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] although it's not likely he'll be getting that back. [ October 26, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

10-29-2003, 05:35 PM	#528
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Yes! We will go back to the woods to follow Vanwe, Barrold and Anavill's trail, where Lésperia will discover that they are heading towards Tallas' place. I would think as we approach the old mans house we would discover the their tracks leaving in a different direction. Léspheria and Amandur would carry on to Tallas's leaving the others to follow Vanwe et all. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] This gives Kaldir et all, ample time to pick up the trail ahead of us. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

10-30-2003, 06:29 PM	#529
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Ok, everyone I've put a post up for Amandur, sorry if its a bit long, but it had to be done. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] I'm in the middle of composing a post for Léspheria, which should fill in the blanks in Amandur's posts, but it is late here and I need some sleep!! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] But I have one question before I go, Hilde, Imladris How much do Rauthain and Maethor know about Kaldir, past and present? does either of them know that Benia and Gilly are his Prisoners? ok I know thats two questions, but I'm really tired! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

10-30-2003, 07:08 PM	#530
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Nerindel, Rauthain knew Kaldir before he was taken captive, and grew to know Kaldir’s father after that event took place. He has only recently learned that Kaldir is truly alive, and has no knowledge of Benia & Gilly (though he did see a familiar seeming personage, from the back, with three horses near the Forsaken Inn). Another couple of points I wanted to mention are that in my mind Rauthain can not read or write and is more or less like an enlisted man among officers in this group. Hope you had a good rest. I know I'm could use some sleep and it's early yet! [ November 04, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

10-30-2003, 07:11 PM	#531
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	There are only a few things that Maethor knows about Kaldir: that he has turned bounty hunter and what Naiore did to him. He does not know about Benia and Gilly. __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

10-30-2003, 07:30 PM	#532
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Thanks Hilde, Imladris that helps [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Ealasaide it looks like Dúlrain won't find out the truth about Benia till a bit later in our story. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ok I'm really going to bed now, goodnight. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

10-30-2003, 10:31 PM	#533
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Nerindel - okay! Sounds good. He can feel guilty a little longer! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Everybody - I am working on the post in which Kaldir will find the cave & get back on Naiore's trail. I should have it up sometime tomorrow. It's half done now but I am so tired I can't type anymore tonight. Sorry! Goodnight! [ October 30, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

10-31-2003, 05:00 AM	#534
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Nerindel, the two characters who could figure out that Kaldir has Benia, would be Lespheria and Hanasain. Could Hanasain have mentioned Benia's troubles to Dulrain?

10-31-2003, 05:56 AM	#535
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Hilde,No, Hansian didn't mention it! he was too preoccupied by thoughts of his father [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] imagine [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Anyway my original plan was to have Léspheria and Amandur tell Dúlrain his mistake, but alas the oppertunity was missed, But no matter he will find out eventually. Another thing Dúlrain, has no Idea that any of the rangers already know of Kaldir's survival least of all that they all know!! So he will be none to please to find out that his revelation is old news, especially with Amandur who he respects not only as a leader but a friend, it will come as a harsh blow that he found Kaldir and never told him. One more thing, anyone who knows Kaldir personally should also be aware of Dúlrain. Where ever Kaldir went his friend was always found two steps behind, but never in his shadow. The only time they were parted was Ravenfalls hence Dúlrain's guilt. Also another thing in my mind, Dúlrain once harboured bad feelings towards the Rangers that survived Ravenfalls holding them like himself partially reasonsible for Kaldir's fate, but after the war and his time riding with Hanasain these feelings left him, but I see them returning with his own guilt. Hilde, its been what 15/16 years since Ravenfalls, so Dúlrain has not recognised Rauthain as one of the men who was with Kaldir at that time, But I'm sure when Rauthain talks about Kaldir he will remember and some of those bad feeling will resurface. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

10-31-2003, 06:04 AM	#536
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	OOOooo the plot thickens! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

10-31-2003, 10:58 AM	#537
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	Did I mess you up, Nerindel? Because if I did I am so sorry...I didn't know you had wanted to do something... __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

10-31-2003, 12:24 PM	#538
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Everybody - I've just posted with Kaldir. Sorry to say, they are still on the hill outside the cave. I hope to post with Benia later today & get them moving so that the Rangers can find the cave. Sorry to be so pokey! It's just that Kaldir's post had gotten so long and I was still going... It was time for a change of POV. Hilde - Gilly can jump in anytime here, too. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

10-31-2003, 06:49 PM	#540
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Fantastic work everyone! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] I'm having a ball reading along for the moment. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I had planned to post next at nightfall, when Naiore and co had camped down for the night. There's a fair bit to happen in that... including Naiore's change of planned direction, plus a few more ideas that have been bubbling away in my mangled grey matter. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] I don't want to cut anybody else off. Please let me know when your characters are in place and the nightfall post can roll in. I am determined not to gazump anyone. In fact, if someone else wants to mention the passing of time from day to evening in their posts, that would be great! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] I'll just follow that cue most happily. __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

10-31-2003, 08:25 PM	#541
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Just a quick note to let everyone know that I have edited Léspheria's post to the end of Amandur's. Not that you would miss it of course, another long one am afraid. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

11-01-2003, 06:40 AM	#542
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Thanks For letting us know Nerindel. I rely too much on e-mail notification and such things don't show up on that radar screen! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

11-01-2003, 10:47 AM	#543
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Imladris I hope that my post is Ok with you and doesn't mess anything up. Nerindel Sorry it took a while, but Dulrain now has quite a bit to think about. From what I remember, he did not know that Kaldir had been captured. [edit] Finally, read Lespheria's addition. Beautiful post! Feel free to mention Rauthain come trotting back at any time. [ November 01, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

11-01-2003, 12:57 PM	#544
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	Very nice post, Hilde! __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

11-01-2003, 07:31 PM	#545
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Sorry I have been holding things up again. Work & family obligations have been walking all over my writing time again. I will have something up tonight that moves Kaldir & co. along. Elora - please wait before changing the time frame!!! I need to get my group off of Bree Hill and out of Bree before nightfall.

11-01-2003, 07:49 PM	#546
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Oh. Well, having read the thread now, I see you didn't wait. I will have to edit mine in at the end of Kaldir's, I guess. In that case, since I am not holding anyone up, I'll post mine tomorrow when I am not quite so tired & in a better position to write a decent post. [ November 01, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

11-01-2003, 11:30 PM	#547
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Yipes! Sorry Ealasaide.... I'll remove mine, save it and post it later so that it makes more sense. I didn't see your note here until after I had finished crafting up the post. Again, my apologies. [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

11-02-2003, 02:43 AM	#548
Everdawn Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the sand dunes outside of Ilium, watching it burn. Posts: 1,291	I was thinking.. (shock horror!) about how Barrold and Avanill are supposed to have stolen several books form Tallas place. Since it was Avanill who raided the place, and seemign to be the more literary man, im guessing that he must have picked it up... I really want to do something about this because i believe it could be really interesting. So i need some help... What exactly would the books contain? Im hoping this will be something exclusive to Avanill that he can keep in his mind for later or that it is details about the past of certain figures in society (or details that Tallas may have come across when two of the greatest Bandit threats of Middle Earth came to clashed with oneanother and one was killed.... (Avanill's father) ) Which would make Avanill more and more unsure about whether helping Naiore is the right thing or not... Help!!! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ "Athena, stepping up behind him, visible to no one but Achillies, gripped his red-gold hair. Startled he made a half turn, and he knew her upon the instant for Athena." ~The Iliad~ ~My lord, Éomer~

11-02-2003, 04:18 AM	#549
Nerindel Spirited Weaver of Fates Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In an endless sea of dreams! Posts: 827	Everdawn unless your character can read ancient Noldorin the only words he would be able to read are maybe the names of his parents, that might not be translatable in to that ancient tongue? The Tomes themselves are more to do with the Elves, Especially the relationship between, Naiore, Vanwe, Menecin, Valaindon (Léspheria's mother)and Léspheria, his and the council of Imladris belief that the Fates of all five are some how bound together or at least intertwined. And of course the revalation that Menecin is still alive and is under the protection of Imladris! I did not realise when I wrote my post that only Avanill went inside, the destruction I described in my last post was more fitting with Barrold than with Avanill and I also thought that the Mithril bound tomes would catch his eye, as that metal is very rare and would fetch a fair price on the black market! Do I have to adjust my post or is it feasible for us to assume that Barrold entered the house after Avanill??? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] (For some strange reason I thought he had shrugs) Everdawn just an after thought, not all Tallas' books were in ancient tongues,Texts relating to Avanill's parents would likely be in westron and in a more ordinary looking book, don't you think! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ November 02, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ] __________________ "Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" ~ Mark Twain.

11-02-2003, 05:07 AM	#550
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Perfectly feasible to assume that Barrold entered after Tallas. He would have pilfered first and destroyed later... As for the books, I had an idea.... brace yourselves.... hard hats on? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] The tomes that Barrold took are in ancient Noldorin. He lifted them secretively, not trusting Avanill with such a prize, in the hopes of winning some points with Naiore. However, I think it likely that Tallas had more than those books in his house. Avanill could have found other books that he took, recognising a different value... Say, books on the history of herbology and local botany.... ancient receipes for plants and herbs.... Tallas' medicinal notes, so to speak. For his trade, such tomes would be of great value, financial and otherwise. Naiore' chief interest will be in the books lifted by Barrold. She is a student of lore, a philosopher of a grim bent, and she would immediately recognise their import. Avanill could use his books to work to his favour. Maybe concocting a new potion of use. Naiore guards her secrets well and only ever purchased raw materials from Avanill's mother. If Avanill proved he had some alchemist knowledge, that would make him both more useful/potent as well as dangerous from Naiore's perspective. How does that sound? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

11-02-2003, 06:38 AM	#551
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Don't forget the Mithril books had a rather stubborn lock. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I imagine that if Tallas keep notes in such rich volumes. Could he not have kept other notes in books, perhaps with gold work? Ealasaide I do apologize, I feel as though I qued Elora with the reference to the sun! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] [ November 02, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

11-02-2003, 11:44 AM	#552
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Elora - thanks! I really appreciate it. I will have my post up there this afternoon... come fire or high water! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Hilde - no problem! Thanks, everyone, for your patience.

11-02-2003, 03:22 PM	#554
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Yes, I tend to use Noldorin and Quenyan interchangably when referring to language, myself. I believe the tomes bound in mithril are written in Quenyan, using the Tengwar characters. My prediction is that Tallas will deliberately have chosen to use such a rareified language so as to minimise the risk of the information falling into the wrong hands. Of course, that fact that Naiore is herself Noldorin nobility who hails from ancient times means that she easily reads, writes and speaks Quenyan (her mother tongue) and so can understand the information recorded. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

11-02-2003, 05:11 PM	#555
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	My post is up! As far as my characters go, I am ready to move on into nighttime. Hilde - did you have something you needed Rauthain to do before it is dark? You had mentioned his going to Bree Hill as well and having a look around.

11-02-2003, 08:19 PM	#556
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Shwoa Ealasaide! What a post! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] It's OK for it to become night. Rauthain is going to keep what he saw to himself for now, I think. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

11-03-2003, 01:52 AM	#558
Everdawn Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the sand dunes outside of Ilium, watching it burn. Posts: 1,291	That is a really great idea Elora, ill work something up for it and PM you before I use it though... __________________ "Athena, stepping up behind him, visible to no one but Achillies, gripped his red-gold hair. Startled he made a half turn, and he knew her upon the instant for Athena." ~The Iliad~ ~My lord, Éomer~

11-03-2003, 02:51 AM	#559
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Great! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Look forward to seeing what you have in mind, Everdawn. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Fantastic work, Easalsaide. I'll put up the diatribe, erm, I mean the post for Naiore/Vanwe. It transitions from late afternoon to evening. __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight