Battles

[The Might]

Something to do with Gondor.

[The Might]

Ok, another hint: east.

[Gil-Galad]

well there Pelenor fields, and Ithielien, Sauron sent is messengers to bring the Haradrim and easterlings to fight the gondorians.

[The Might]

Indeed, though they didn't need to be incitated.
Something else.

[Groin Redbeard]

I give up. What it is Might?

[The Might]

Ok, last hint: Wainriders

[Nerwen]

The first attack of the Wainriders on Gondor:

Stirred up, as was afterwards seen by the emissaries of Sauron, they made a sudden assault upon Gondor, and King Narmacil II was slain in battle with them beyond Anduin in 1856.

[The Might]

I am still looking for the name of the battle.

[Groin Redbeard]

Battle of the Plains

First major battle between Gondor and the Wainriders. The Battle of the Plains was fought in 1856 on the great plains between Mirkwood and Mordor. The Wainriders defeated the combined forces of Gondor and the Northmen.

[The Might]

Sorry Nerwen, you were indeed right with the event, but failed to specify what the battle exactly was, so Groin gets to go next. However, from what I have seen I have no doubt you will be able to answer others.

Also, strange that it took you so long. I thought that the Gondor and east hints were enough to show you what I meant.
Anyway, go ahed and post a new one.

[Groin Redbeard]

This battle was fought near the river fortress of Tharbad. It is where the Númenórean Ciryatur routed Souron's forces.

Good luck!

[The Might]

Battle of the Gwathló

[Groin Redbeard]

Correct as usual. Your turn Might.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

*bump* If you don't post, Miggy, I shall blow your door right down your house and out through the hill.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Have you done so yet, Legate?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I'm going to give him one more day and then do so. Because I can also use the time I give him to think of another question, or, if you wish, or anyone, you may do so if he doesn't report.

[The Might]

Thanks for the exta day Legate.

Anyways, what battle marked the "invention" of golf?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

You are welcome.

And I am not going to answer. Let's allow someone else to participate here!

[Thinlómien]

I'm not interested in war history, so I'm wondering why am I torturing my brain in order to remember the name of the battle. Yes, I know what battle it is but I have no clue what it is called.

The battle of Hobbits vs Orcs?

The battle of Bandobras?

The battle of Mount Gram?

The battle of Bullroarer-chopped-a-head-off-and-invented-golf?

See, I'm hopeless. But I hope I do not need to know the exact name of the battle, because otherwise we have to wait for someone else to arrive and name it...

[The Might]

How would you call a battle taking place on a green field Lommy?

[Nerwen]

Could it be... oh, I don't know... something like... The Battle of Greenfields?

[The Might]

I hate to take it away from you Lommy but you must realise it was one Google away from you.
Take it, Nerwen!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by The Might

I hate to take it away from you Lommy but you must realise it was one Google away from you.

Just a note to this: not sure what Lommy was thinking, but I think using just one's own wisdom (or "wisdom" ) is better and ultimately, more interesting if nothing else (just look now - she wouldn't have written this funny former post had she looked it up in the first place ).

[Nerwen]

Ahem. Google = cheating.

What battle was named after something that was named after it?

[Thinlómien]

Well, yes, Miggy, I knew I could have googled it or even looked it from the books, but I thought it fairer to go by what I remembered. Anyway, I do not mean that it was wrong to give the thread to Nerwen in any way since she knew it and obviously the name itself was the difficult part of the question, not realising what you were talking about. (By the way, I had a slight and eerie hunch that Nerwen will come to the thread and post the actual name of the battle and just see what happened... )

Anyway, no, I have absolutely no clue what Nerwen is talking about right now but I might as well guess. The Battle of the Five Armies*, mayhaps? In a way it would fit the description, but it sounds a little far-fetched...

*see, at least I knew this one's name and didn't say something like "The Battle at the end of TH"

[Nerwen]

Sorry, it is not the Battle of Five Armies.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I don't know... something like... Battle of Nanduhirion, eh?

[Nerwen]

No. Nothing like Battle of Nanduhirion.

Clue: think about etymology.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

This is soooooo wrong, but I have yet to post in this thread.

Battle of the Camp?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

no no no no. . .forget what I said. . .I just realised that it must be (hopefully)

The Battle of Dagorlad

[Thinlómien]

That was smart, Rune.

[Nerwen]

Nice work, Rune.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Thanks

It was kind of weird. . . . At first I thought it had something to do with Anfauglith, but realised that the name had nothing to do with the battle and the "camp" thing was just a bad guess.

Which battle took place at the highest location?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm, maybe Gandalf's battle with the Balrog on Zirakzigil, eh?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I am looking for a specifick name for the battle. . .

No googling!

(although I don't think there is anything wrong with reading through the books to find the answer)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Heck, I don't know how it is in English. But I know how it is named in Czech, would that suffice? Anyway, it would be something like Battle on the Top or Battle on the Spire, maybe?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Battle on the Spire is close. . .sort of.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, I don't have the books here right now, so I looked it up on the net. But I don't consider that cheating because I knew what the name is, just not from the original books, and it's not my fault that in fact it's one level more difficult for me to write the right answer (in fact, it's a handicap, because even when I know the name in one language, I still need to look it up in English). Battle of the Peak.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

hahaha

It is incredible what excuses people use to convince them selves that they have not bent the rules. . .

Have you never read LotR in English?

I mean we are many who have another first language than English and at times only remember the answer in our first language. . . anyways take it away, if nobody else had answered tonight I would have handed the thread over to you anyways.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

It is incredible what excuses people use to convince them selves that they have not bent the rules. . .

Have you never read LotR in English?

I mean we are many who have another first language than English and at times only remember the answer in our first language. . . anyways take it away, if nobody else had answered tonight I would have handed the thread over to you anyways.

Well I did read it in English, but not that many times. I remember most of the names and things (but actually I believe only from the time I came on the Downs and started to use them more frequently, mind you!), but not all, of course. And in any case, I don't consider that an attempt to excuse myself of something - I think as a non-native English speaker too, you can relate: I know the answer, and the fact that I don't know what the precise translation is (Top, Spire, Peak - all of that are the options when I try to translate it back) a detail. The important thing we are trusting each other in here is not cheating in the way that one would google something on the net without really knowing what it is. But if you think even finding the translation of a thing you know is cheating, we may as well consider that a "rule", although I think it puts the non-native speakers into a serious disadvantage.

Aaanyway... let's bring in the new question:

There was a leader who is most famous for taking part in a certain battle, and his name has become associated with that battle in a certain way. This battle had a major impact on the history of Middle-Earth. Thirty-five years later, the leader died in another battle. What two battles are we talking about here?