TIG LXIX: Meeting at the House of Usher

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

*sees moddess announcement, blinks*

Spoilt the plan, huh?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, I'm here.

Very true. Thoughts on Roa? If you voted her and we could convince one other person to switch we'd at least have a tie. Better than certain chance of doom.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Also, Fea, I'd like to point out that the wolves don't have to take you up on your proposition.

Clearly.

But it would be nice if they did.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Spoilt the plan, huh?

Heck no, I think it's brilliant! I thought we were completely screwed.

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Clearly.

But it would be nice if they did.

Yes, well. I still think you should help out the village. For me? (I'd offer cookies but that'd be meta and then I'd die anyway. )

[Mirandir]

Deadline! Sally shall be dying of huggles from the moddesses. She was an ordo.

The Living:
Brinn
Fea
Inzil
Loslote
Nerwen
Nog
Roa
Saucepan Man

The Dead:
Mira - moddess, death by Red Masque Night 1
Nienna - co-moddess, death by Red Masque Night 1
Morsul - Hunter, lynched Day 1
Hakon - Seer, suffocated and stuck up chimney Night 2
Boro - werebear, throat slit Night 2
Wilwa – Ordo
Grennie – Cobbler, Lynched Day 2
Lari- Ordo, death via fabulous narration on Night 3
McCaber - wolf, lynched Day 3
Pitchwife - ordo, killed Night 4
sally - ordo, Day 4 lynch

It is now Night 5.

[satansaloser2005]

Opportune moment? *hopes she's in the right on this*

ETA: x'd with the moddess. And oi! It was still 11:00, so people still could have changed. *uses wishful thinking* Rubbish, that.

[Mirandir]

The Living:
Brinn
Fea
Inzil
Nerwen
Nog
Roa
Saucepan Man

The Dead:
Mira - moddess, death by Red Masque Night 1
Nienna - co-moddess, death by Red Masque Night 1
Morsul - Hunter, lynched Day 1
Hakon - Seer, suffocated and stuck up chimney Night 2
Boro - werebear, throat slit Night 2
Wilwa – Ordo
Grennie – Cobbler, Lynched Day 2
Lari- Ordo, death via fabulous narration on Night 3
McCaber - wolf, lynched Day 3
Pitchwife - ordo, killed Night 4
sally - ordo, Day 4 lynch
Loslote - ordo, Night 5 kill

It is now Day 5.

[Roa_Aoife]

So, here's where we stand: with 3 wolves vs 4 villagers, 3 of whom are known innocents, the wolves are either going to win toDay or lose in the next two Days. It is quite clear just whose head is on the chopping block. with these things in mind, we have decided.

I speak for the wolves, and I speak to the Lovers. Vote with us toDay, and achieve the prestige of being one of the few sets of Lovers to ever actually win. Vote against us, and you won't be able to kill all of us before we kill one or both of you. You see, we now have nothing to lose.

Win with us, or lose with us. The choice is yours.

PS: I always thought you were quite clever, Fea. But you know how it is.

++Inzil

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

No worries, Roa dear. I always thought you were quite evil. But you know how it is. We weren't certain until you didn't die. You should congratulate yourself for that, at least.

[Nerwen]

So, it's Nogrod, Roa and Brinn, then.

EDIT:X'd with Roa and Fea.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Oh yes-

++Inzil

It just wouldn't be right if, after all that, I forgot to vote.

[Inziladun]

Yes, yes. It's all in the hands of the lovebirds. So let's everyone just vote as early as possible and end this. I still intend to go down fighting though.

++Roa

[Nerwen]

I must say, Sally certainly helped the lupine cause along. I mean, who would have got it yesterDay if not for that Ranger stunt? Why, Roa!

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I must say, Sally certainly helped the lupine cause along. I mean, who would have got it yesterDay if not for that Ranger stunt? Why, Roa!

I certainly second that. Why, Sally, did you have to look so bloody evil?

[Nerwen]

She was right about one thing, though– there's no reason the wolves can't eat you two along with the rest of the village. Up to the mod, really.

*shrugs*

Anyway–

++Roa

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

'Leventh of November, Wednesday:
Fea clasps her hands to pray:
Mistress mod, if I've amused you
Please have mercy, and do choose to
Reward me, and Lover Sauce
For pleasing you, our awesome boss.

In other words, Nerwen: It's totally up to Mira what happens to Saucie and I for our barely forgivable self-serving coup.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I certainly second that. Why, Sally, did you have to look so bloody evil?

Came as a nice windfall to the pack, I'm sure... I mean, the Night before they must have calculated there was at least a 50% chance of Roa going down. Ah well. It's not the first time an innocent has tried a ploy like that, but I wish people would realise it almost never works out well.

EDIT:X'd with Fea.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Came as a nice windfall to the pack, I'm sure... I mean, the Night before they must have calculated there was at least a 50% chance of Roa going down. Ah well. It's not the first time an innocent has tried a ploy like that, but I wish people would realise it almost never works out well.

Like I said to Sally earlier, I'd already thought her suspicious, but the ranger bit clinched it for me. I really thought we'd cracked it.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

'Leventh of November, Wednesday:
Fea clasps her hands to pray:
Mistress mod, if I've amused you
Please have mercy, and do choose to
Reward me, and Lover Sauce
For pleasing you, our awesome boss.

In other words, Nerwen: It's totally up to Mira what happens to Saucie and I for our barely forgivable self-serving coup.

Yes... that's what I just said, actually.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Yes, yes, I was merely nodding in agreement with your observation.

You know... in rhymes.

[The Saucepan Man]

Well hello Wolves. It's about time.

Yes, I’ m game. But you will forgive me if I don’t fully trust you, even at this stage. I would feel a lot more comfortable if each of you retracted your first vote and voted again (for Inzil, of course). That way, we can be sure that there will be no last minute trickery. Unless and until you do, I am sure that you will understand if I take out a little insurance policy.

++Roa

You still win, of course, even with my vote cast thus. But, should you try to double-cross us at the last minute, my beloved has the option of switching her vote.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

She was right about one thing, though– there's no reason the wolves can't eat you two along with the rest of the village. Up to the mod, really.

You know, I am sure that they will. But you see, my beloved and I don’t care whether we live together or die together. As long as we are together, that’s all that matters to us. Surely you have realised by now. Love conquers all.

[Roa_Aoife]

--inzil
++inzil

With my retraction gone there is no way we can lynch you unless Inzil and the other innocent decide to help us. And we don't need to lynch you to exact revenge, my dear.

My fellows are voting me until we are certain of your loyalty. So they will be using their retractions to switch from me to Inzil. You have nothing to fear from us in terms of a lynching.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

My fellows are voting me until we are certain of your loyalty. So they will be using their retractions to switch from me to Inzil. You have nothing to fear from us in terms of a lynching.

Yes, I understand. That makes sense to me.

You can most certainly rely on our loyalty in the absence of any trickery on your part. We have nothing to gain from betraying you save our swift exit from the game. Still, I will most likely change my vote to Inzil before the Day is done. I would just like to hear from Nogrod and Brinn before doing so.

[Nerwen]

Isn't trust a beautiful thing?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Isn't trust a beautiful thing?

As a wise person once said, 'The treacherous are ever mistrustful'.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Well, we trust each other quite a lot...

[Nogrod]

Just looking at these open negotiations over our shoulders and the scheming involved makes me wish to gain some superpowers and lynch every wolf and lover together.

Well there's little else to do but vote.

++ Roa


Spm, you seem to presume I'm a wolf. Well quess what, you have the wrong person. So it means at least one wolf has already voted for Roa before she enlightened us on their tactics.

Which leads into the question of why. My two cents would be that they probably want to keep their identities safe for fear of you doing some tricks you seem to be afraid of them doing...

As that kind of insecurity is a general consequence of accepting a scheming-game I really don't feel too sorry for you Spm with your troubles.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

But scheming is fun. I for one expect not pity, but jealousy.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I for one expect not pity, but jealousy.

That's another way of putting it...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Isn't trust a beautiful thing?

Surely the very essence of the game is that Wolves are not to be trusted.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Spm, you seem to presume I'm a wolf. Well quess what, you have the wrong person. So it means at least one wolf has already voted for Roa before she enlightened us on their tactics.

No, I don't presume you a Wolf at all. In fact, for what it's worth, I see Nerwen as a more likely Wolf than you. But it makes little odds now.

Originally Posted by Nog

As that kind of insecurity is a general consequence of accepting a scheming-game I really don't feel too sorry for you Spm with your troubles.

Oh, I am not troubled at all. Just wary. I have been through just about every scenario that I can think of, including one where Roa is a bluffing Villager.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

As a wise person once said, 'The treacherous are ever mistrustful'.

"Distrustful", I think you'll find.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Spm, you seem to presume I'm a wolf. Well quess what, you have the wrong person. So it means at least one wolf has already voted for Roa before she enlightened us on their tactics.

Oh, this is just too funny.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Which leads into the question of why. My two cents would be that they probably want to keep their identities safe for fear of you doing some tricks you seem to be afraid of them doing...

As that kind of insecurity is a general consequence of accepting a scheming-game I really don't feel too sorry for you Spm with your troubles.

I'd not turn my back on Nogwolf, if I were you, Lovers...

EDIT:X'd with Nogrod and Sauce.

[The Saucepan Man]

*SpM winds his musical pocket watch, throws it to the ground and glances grimly from one villager to another to the sound of the clockwork melody*

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

With my retraction gone there is no way we can lynch you unless Inzil and the other innocent decide to help us.

Now that would be an interesting turn of events...

[Brinniel]

Well Inzil, it looks like you and me are the only true innocents left.

Roa I think has been an obvious wolf for the last two Days and now I'm really regretting not lynching her yesterDay. A Nogwolf doesn't terribly surprise me either since he has duped me in the past and has admittingly slipped under my radar this game. Nerwen as a wolf is a bit unexpected as she was one of the players I believed to be innocent. So props to her for completely fooling me.

Originally Posted by Inzil

Like I said to Sally earlier, I'd already thought her suspicious, but the ranger bit clinched it for me. I really thought we'd cracked it.

I know. I was so certain we'd come into toDay with one more wolf down. I feel like I should've known better since I don't think this is the first time Sally has appeared incredibly evil only to turn out innocent. But I still can't understand why an ordo would leave such obvious hints to being a ranger, especially at this critical stage of the game. Surely she would've realised how such behaviour would appear to the rest of us. But apparently not.

Like Inzil, I don't intend to lose without a fight. And who knows, maybe our baddies will forget to switch their votes.

++Roa

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Now that would be an interesting turn of events...

Yes, but one that the Innocents would be foolish to go for while things remain as they are. It's for that reason that I have decided to stick with my current vote, for now.

So, how to end this Mexican stand-off?

Well, here's an idea. How about I ask my delightful accomplice here to retract her vote and re-cast it for Inzil? That way you Wolves can seal the deal, regardless of whatever I do with my vote, by the remaining two switching their votes to Inzil. As soon as I see one of you do it, I will be happy to follow suit.

You'd be up for that, wouldn't you Fee Fee?

[Roa_Aoife]

I believe that would be appropriate, but Fea would have to move first.

[Nogrod]

C'mon guys...

Okay, it was a terribly long day and I have just gotten home only to go to sleep as I have an early morning call tomorrow.

But it seems I have lost nothing during my absence and there has been little to do toDay. It's a kind of an anticlimax: knowing who the wolves are, knowing the lovers and being just unable to do anything about it but watch whether the baddies are going to win alone or with the treacherous lovers.

Originally Posted by Spm

I have been through just about every scenario that I can think of, including one where Roa is a bluffing Villager.

Heh, the thought crossed my mind as well sitting on a bus home and trying to think whether there were any loopholes we might make use of. But that's just not possible unless Inzil is not the ranger (which I find highly improbable at this stage). And it would have been even more reckless than what Sally did yesterDay - and futile as the wolves would know she's faking and probably wouldn't have joined the choir.

Actually... if Inzil is not the ranger but Roa believed he was, then she could have thought of not so much "flushing the wolves out into the open" to be identified but saving Inzil as the wolves would not have dared to vote him... Well, if someone was to come up with such a risky idea it could be Roa. But I do believe Inzil's claim more than the theory of Roa bluffing.

Anyway, I can see only one way we can win this - but it means you lovers would have to sacrifice your victory and let at least one of you die. But we could actually lynch Roa toDay together and make it right toMorrow (I know who to vote, but to you - one or two of you - it would be a 2 out of 3 or 4 chance) while the wolves either kill both of you lovers or one of you and Inzil during the next two Nights. With your "vengeange kill" the remaining one of you can make a 50-50 win or just vote with me to a victory for... me. (Heh, I was going to write "victory for the innocents", but then realised there would be only one left besides the one of you remaining...) Or if the wolves were risk-takers with a vengeange in mind, me and Inzil could flush the last wolf

Sadly it seems you're not into heroism but to victory only...

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Sadly it seems you're not into heroism but to victory only...

Ninja.

QK

That being said, sorry I wasn't around to do this sooner. This particularly charming ninja was helping her gramma renovate the living room up t'The Farm and has meekly endured more razor sharp shards of 50 year old wallpaper stabbing under her fingernails than anybody should ever have to.

--Inzil

++Inzil

[The Saucepan Man]

*Gazes lovingly into Fea's eyes*

Right, that's two irrevocable votes for Inzil. One more and I shall follow suit, which will wrap things up nicely.

Originally Posted by Nog

Sadly it seems you're not into heroism but to victory only...

Hehe. You really don't give up do you, Nog. You seriously expect us to have gone through all of this only to throw it away at the last minute? You might as well ask a Seer not to dream, a Wolf not to kill, a Ranger not to guard or a Cobbler not to ... er ... Cobble. We are Lovers. We love - ourselves - to the exclusion of all other considerations. That's what we do.

[Inziladun]

Oh, blazes. Such suspense.

Que, sera, sera....