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Finwe · 02-16-2004, 10:07 AM

Then would it be Daeron?

Turambar · 02-16-2004, 12:31 PM

Not Daeron. "Faithful friend" is the straight clue. There's a very obvious cryptic clue in there.

Finwe · 02-16-2004, 01:15 PM

*smacks self in the head*

It's Beleg.

Turambar · 02-16-2004, 05:21 PM

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Re-posting:

1. Isenmouthe -- Sounds like a cooling cure for drouth in a dead land.
2. Ibun -- Leave one small bread for the second-last of his kind.
3. Dwaling -- Un-tardy dwarf, with Gondor’s first, visits remote village.
4. Seems that 100 well prepared Bree-men were scattered and killed.
5. Beleg --Alliterative lines describe legend of the faithful friend.
6. Nimloth -- Elegant court dweller wore white blossom for 30 centuries.

HINTS FOR #4 - Scramble. Person.

Celebrian · 02-16-2004, 07:21 PM

Red herrings and hithlain! Arg! #4 has me stumped still. All I can think of at the moment is the Scouring of the Shire, which is not a scrambled person (perhaps many persons scrambling, hah!).

Is the password CARL COTTON, Nib's ID?

Finwe · 02-16-2004, 09:24 PM

Blind guess here...

4) Lenwë?

Evisse the Blue · 02-17-2004, 02:14 AM

#4 - Boromir? (will explain if proves to be right) wil refuse to explain if it's wrong

Turambar · 02-17-2004, 06:17 AM

Not Lenwë or Boromir. Two words in the riddle are straight clues. The answer is, as I said, only one person. Three elements of the clue comprise the scramble.

As for the Password, follow the clues and you'll find it.

Finwe · 02-17-2004, 07:01 PM

Emeldir?

Turambar · 02-18-2004, 07:38 AM

No. I'll refine the hint: Bree-men and killed are straight clues; three elements comprise the scramble, and the answer is one person.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-18-2004, 11:49 AM

I am afraid that I am going to have to close this thread as it is way over the maximum thread length.

Turambar, would you mind starting a new thread and re-posting the rules of the game together with your current conundrum?

Thanks.

Turambar · 02-18-2004, 12:50 PM

Rules for this game:

1. The questioner gives a series of questions, each leading to an answer (which the questioner will confirm when guessed).

2. The first letters of the answers form the Password (see example below).

3. Traditionally, the questions can be (but aren't required to be) on the tricksy side, and can include “cryptic clues”, as well summarized by The Saucepan Man here (i.e., anagrams, synonyms, "sounds like" clues, etc.)

4. The first person to guess the “Password” wins the game, although you still have to solve any remaining questions.

5. You’re allowed to tinker with Rule #2.

Simple example:

(1) Noldor, Sindar or Vanyar.
(2) First Telerin deserter.
(3) Monsters of the Last Desert.
(4) Not a man, to the Witch King’s regret.

Answers:

(1) Elf.
(2) Lenwë.
(3) Wereworms.
(4) Éowyn.

Password: ELWË.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Here’s the current puzzle – only #4, and the Password, remain to be guessed:

1. Isenmouthe -- Sounds like a cooling cure for drouth in a dead land.
2. Ibun -- Leave one small bread for the second-last of his kind.
3. Dwaling -- Un-tardy dwarf, with Gondor’s first, visits remote village.
4. Rowlie Appledore -- Seems that 100 well prepared Bree-men were scattered and killed.
5. Beleg -- Alliterative lines describe legend of the faithful friend.
6. Nimloth -- Elegant court dweller wore white blossom for 30 centuries.

HINTS for #4: It's a person. Bree-men and killed are straight clues. Three elements of the clue comprise a scramble.

HINT for the password: follow the clues and you'll find it.

Firefoot · 02-18-2004, 02:39 PM

Is it Rowlie Appledore?

Turambar · 02-18-2004, 02:42 PM

Indeed it is - an anagram of IOO WELL PREPARED.

Now just guess the Password, and the honor of going next is yours !

HINTS for the Password:

* Follow the clues !
* More than six letters.

Finwe · 02-18-2004, 04:57 PM

Hmm... they seem to be somehow representative of all the races in Middle-earth... does that have anything to do with the password?

Turambar · 02-18-2004, 08:44 PM

How about -

* Follow the clues initially,
* Be aware of Rule #5 (above),
* Then guess the 12-letter Password.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-18-2004, 08:53 PM

Is it Middle-earth?

Great. Nice guess. Next you'll tell me you're not failing Physics.

Am not...wait, I am. But who cares - I'm shifting, remember.

A new alter-ego comes: Guys, this is the Quiz Room, not a private message.

OK. *shuts up*

OK. My answer's still Middle-earth.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-19-2004, 06:08 AM

Quote:

* Follow the clues initially,

Well, the initials of the answers are IIDRBN

Quote:

* Be aware of Rule #5 (above),

So, it's not just the intitials, huh?

Quote:

* Then guess the 12-letter Password.

Ah, so we need another 6 letters. How about adding another letter after each of those that we already have ...

I-I-D-R-B-N-

Ah, there it is ...

ISILDUR'S BANE

Turambar · 02-19-2004, 06:28 AM

The letters you "added" were simply the first letters of each clue.

You're up, Saucepan.

Celebrian · 02-19-2004, 08:06 AM

There certainly was lots of entertainment value in that last tricksy one, Turambar! Thanks!
Oh, goody, a Saucy special's up next.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-19-2004, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Oh, goody, a Saucy special's up next.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

You haven't made a single meaningful post since page 12 of Password 1.0! Now this!

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-21-2004, 05:51 AM

Gah! The pressure!

OK, short but sweet:

1. Bringer of a heavenly harvest?
2. Commonly said to be the longest bearer of the One Ring.
3. Named speakers.
4. Remove first letter of alphabet poorly.
5. Lofty Elven title.

Evisse the Blue · 02-21-2004, 05:58 AM

1. Yavanna
2. Sauron, Lord of the Rings
5. Tar

NightKnight · 02-21-2004, 07:30 AM

3. Quendi?

Arestevana · 02-21-2004, 07:44 AM

Or Perhaps...

1. Sickle of the Valar? Valacirya?

Celebrian · 02-21-2004, 02:40 PM

3) ELVES, "first to give voice to the music and make song"?
4) RUNE ?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-21-2004, 10:14 PM

Some good answers there. I'll fill in the correct ones:

1. Valacirca: Bringer of a heavenly harvest?
2. Commonly said to be the longest bearer of the One Ring.
3. Quendi: Named speakers.
4. Remove first letter of alphabet poorly.
5. Lofty Elven title.

#3 is "Quendi" rather than "Elves", because the name means "Those who speak with voices".

Miriel · 02-22-2004, 05:03 AM

5. Hir?

NightKnight · 02-22-2004, 06:40 AM

5. High King?

Turambar · 02-22-2004, 07:00 AM

#2 Anduin ?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-22-2004, 06:01 PM

No more correct answers yet, but you are very much on the right track (or waterway

), Turambar.

Turambar · 02-22-2004, 06:28 PM

Since you said commonly - Great River ?

E: or Long River ?

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-22-2004, 07:41 PM

Getting closer ...

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-23-2004, 12:26 AM

2. Gladden.

Turambar · 02-23-2004, 07:23 AM

The One Ring didn't lie in the Gladden, though; it was in the Anduin - in Westron, Great River.

Langflood ?

Evisse the Blue · 02-23-2004, 07:31 AM

#5. Ar(a)

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-23-2004, 07:38 AM

1. Valacirca: Bringer of a heavenly harvest?
2. Langflood: Commonly said to be the longest bearer of the One Ring.
3. Quendi: Named speakers.
4. Remove first letter of alphabet poorly.
5. Lofty Elven title.

You got there in the end, Turambar.

Sorry, Evisse, that's not the title I'm looking for.

Finwe · 02-23-2004, 06:30 PM

5) heru or hiril?

Arvedui III · 02-23-2004, 08:37 PM

5) Aran, maybe?

Celebrian · 02-24-2004, 08:42 AM

4) Is this tinco-related? Tin-something perhaps...

02-16-2004, 10:07 AM	#481
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Then would it be Daeron? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

02-16-2004, 12:31 PM	#482
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Not Daeron. "Faithful friend" is the straight clue. There's a very obvious cryptic clue in there. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-16-2004, 01:15 PM	#483
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	smacks self in the head It's Beleg. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

02-16-2004, 05:21 PM	#484
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	- - - - - - - - - - - - Re-posting: 1. Isenmouthe -- Sounds like a cooling cure for drouth in a dead land. 2. Ibun -- Leave one small bread for the second-last of his kind. 3. Dwaling -- Un-tardy dwarf, with Gondor’s first, visits remote village. 4. Seems that 100 well prepared Bree-men were scattered and killed. 5. Beleg --Alliterative lines describe legend of the faithful friend. 6. Nimloth -- Elegant court dweller wore white blossom for 30 centuries. HINTS FOR #4 - Scramble. Person. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-16-2004, 07:21 PM	#485
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	Red herrings and hithlain! Arg! #4 has me stumped still. All I can think of at the moment is the Scouring of the Shire, which is not a scrambled person (perhaps many persons scrambling, hah!). Is the password CARL COTTON, Nib's ID? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20) Last edited by Celebrian; 02-16-2004 at 07:32 PM.

02-16-2004, 09:24 PM	#486
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Blind guess here... 4) Lenwë? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

02-17-2004, 02:14 AM	#487
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	#4 - Boromir? (will explain if proves to be right) wil refuse to explain if it's wrong __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-17-2004, 06:17 AM	#488
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Not Lenwë or Boromir. Two words in the riddle are straight clues. The answer is, as I said, only one person. Three elements of the clue comprise the scramble. As for the Password, follow the clues and you'll find it. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 02-17-2004 at 07:33 AM.

02-17-2004, 07:01 PM	#489
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Emeldir? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

02-18-2004, 07:38 AM	#490
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	No. I'll refine the hint: Bree-men and killed are straight clues; three elements comprise the scramble, and the answer is one person. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-18-2004, 11:49 AM	#491
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Closed due to length I am afraid that I am going to have to close this thread as it is way over the maximum thread length. Turambar, would you mind starting a new thread and re-posting the rules of the game together with your current conundrum? Thanks. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-18-2004, 12:50 PM	#492
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Password 2.0 Rules for this game: 1. The questioner gives a series of questions, each leading to an answer (which the questioner will confirm when guessed). 2. The first letters of the answers form the Password (see example below). 3. Traditionally, the questions can be (but aren't required to be) on the tricksy side, and can include “cryptic clues”, as well summarized by The Saucepan Man here (i.e., anagrams, synonyms, "sounds like" clues, etc.) 4. The first person to guess the “Password” wins the game, although you still have to solve any remaining questions. 5. You’re allowed to tinker with Rule #2. Simple example: (1) Noldor, Sindar or Vanyar. (2) First Telerin deserter. (3) Monsters of the Last Desert. (4) Not a man, to the Witch King’s regret. Answers: (1) Elf. (2) Lenwë. (3) Wereworms. (4) Éowyn. Password: ELWË. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Here’s the current puzzle – only #4, and the Password, remain to be guessed: 1. Isenmouthe -- Sounds like a cooling cure for drouth in a dead land. 2. Ibun -- Leave one small bread for the second-last of his kind. 3. Dwaling -- Un-tardy dwarf, with Gondor’s first, visits remote village. 4. Rowlie Appledore -- Seems that 100 well prepared Bree-men were scattered and killed. 5. Beleg -- Alliterative lines describe legend of the faithful friend. 6. Nimloth -- Elegant court dweller wore white blossom for 30 centuries. HINTS for #4: It's a person. Bree-men and killed are straight clues. Three elements of the clue comprise a scramble. HINT for the password: follow the clues and you'll find it. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 02-25-2004 at 01:05 PM.

02-18-2004, 02:39 PM	#493
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	#4 Is it Rowlie Appledore?

02-18-2004, 02:42 PM	#494
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Correct ! Indeed it is - an anagram of IOO WELL PREPARED. Now just guess the Password, and the honor of going next is yours ! HINTS for the Password: * Follow the clues ! * More than six letters. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-18-2004, 04:57 PM	#495
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Hmm... they seem to be somehow representative of all the races in Middle-earth... does that have anything to do with the password? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

02-18-2004, 08:44 PM	#496
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Let's try this How about - * Follow the clues initially, * Be aware of Rule #5 (above), * Then guess the 12-letter Password. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-18-2004, 08:53 PM	#497
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	A silly guess... Is it Middle-earth? Great. Nice guess. Next you'll tell me you're not failing Physics. Am not...wait, I am. But who cares - I'm shifting, remember. A new alter-ego comes: Guys, this is the Quiz Room, not a private message. OK. shuts up OK. My answer's still Middle-earth. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-19-2004, 06:28 AM	#499
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yes ! The letters you "added" were simply the first letters of each clue. You're up, Saucepan. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-19-2004, 08:06 AM	#500
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	There certainly was lots of entertainment value in that last tricksy one, Turambar! Thanks! Oh, goody, a Saucy special's up next. __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

02-21-2004, 05:51 AM	#502
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Gah! The pressure! OK, short but sweet: 1. Bringer of a heavenly harvest? 2. Commonly said to be the longest bearer of the One Ring. 3. Named speakers. 4. Remove first letter of alphabet poorly. 5. Lofty Elven title. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-21-2004, 05:58 AM	#503
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	1. Yavanna 2. Sauron, Lord of the Rings 5. Tar __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-21-2004, 07:30 AM	#504
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	3. Quendi? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-21-2004, 07:44 AM	#505
Arestevana Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: West over water Posts: 486	Or Perhaps... 1. Sickle of the Valar? Valacirya?

02-21-2004, 02:40 PM	#506
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	3) ELVES, "first to give voice to the music and make song"? 4) RUNE ? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20) Last edited by Celebrian; 02-21-2004 at 02:45 PM.

02-21-2004, 10:14 PM	#507
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Some good answers there. I'll fill in the correct ones: 1. Valacirca: Bringer of a heavenly harvest? 2. Commonly said to be the longest bearer of the One Ring. 3. Quendi: Named speakers. 4. Remove first letter of alphabet poorly. 5. Lofty Elven title. #3 is "Quendi" rather than "Elves", because the name means "Those who speak with voices". __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-22-2004, 05:03 AM	#508
Miriel Wight Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 118	5. Hir? __________________ "The weight of this sad time we must obey, Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say." (Act V, Scene III - King Lear)

02-22-2004, 06:40 AM	#509
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,690	5. High King? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

02-22-2004, 07:00 AM	#510
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	#2 Anduin ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-22-2004, 06:01 PM	#511
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	No more correct answers yet, but you are very much on the right track (or waterway ), Turambar. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-22-2004, 06:28 PM	#512
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Since you said commonly - Great River ? E: or Long River ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-22-2004, 07:41 PM	#513
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Getting closer ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-23-2004, 12:26 AM	#514
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	2. Gladden. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-23-2004, 07:23 AM	#515
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	The One Ring didn't lie in the Gladden, though; it was in the Anduin - in Westron, Great River. Langflood ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

02-23-2004, 07:31 AM	#516
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	#5. Ar(a) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-23-2004, 07:38 AM	#517
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Langflood is correct 1. Valacirca: Bringer of a heavenly harvest? 2. Langflood: Commonly said to be the longest bearer of the One Ring. 3. Quendi: Named speakers. 4. Remove first letter of alphabet poorly. 5. Lofty Elven title. You got there in the end, Turambar. Sorry, Evisse, that's not the title I'm looking for. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!