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Galadriel55 · 04-09-2019, 08:04 PM

2. Maedhros: Rose & Ham & D. I had a feeling Rose was involved but couldn't put the other pieces in place until I worked backwqrds from the theme (Feanorians?).

Nerwen · 04-09-2019, 09:49 PM

#5 isn't by any chance deriving AMRAS from the ""Mars bar" slogan: "A MARS a day helps you work, rest and play", is it?

Nerwen · 04-09-2019, 09:58 PM

And I believe #1 is CARANTHIR? ("Chair" + "rant").

Pervinca Took · 04-10-2019, 12:12 AM

CARANTHIR: Confused convener swallows a tirade, and then he appears.
MAEDHROS: Note, Sam’s bride and father circulate for him.
???R???: Troubled, the enemy hurtled to him.
AMROD: In a dream rode out, he did.
AMRAS: Mingled, one a day will help you work, rest and play. For him.
???N???: Dog of night? He’s a little shaken.
???E???: He’s foolish - changes two (lineless) dollars for other notes – in turmoil.
MAGLOR: See him where the puma glories in his speed.

Nerwen · 04-10-2019, 12:42 AM

I think #3 is FËANOR ("Foe" + "ran").

Nerwen · 04-10-2019, 12:45 AM

That, by elimination, would make #6 CURUFIN and #7 CELEGORM, but I haven't actually worked out the clues yet.

Nerwen · 04-10-2019, 12:50 AM

Er... CELEGORM from "gormless"? But I don't get "lineless dollars".

And "cur" + "fuin" for CURUFIN?

Pervinca Took · 04-10-2019, 02:07 AM

An S is a dollar sign without lines through it. You lose two S's from gormless, exchanging them for musical notes.

Pervinca Took · 04-10-2019, 02:11 AM

CARANTHIR: Confused convener swallows a tirade, and then he appears.
MAEDHROS: Note, Sam’s bride and father circulate for him.
FEANOR: Troubled, the enemy hurtled to him.
AMROD: In a dream rode out, he did.
AMRAS: Mingled, one a day will help you work, rest and play. For him.
CURUFIN: Dog of night? He’s a little shaken.
CELEGORM: He’s foolish - changes two (lineless) dollars for other notes – in turmoil.
MAGLOR: See him where the puma glories in his speed.

THEME: NERDANEL, FEANOR & SONS

All correct, and for the reasons you stated. Well done!

See my last post for explanation of 'lineless dollars.'

And over to Galadriel55!

Nerwen · 04-10-2019, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

CARANTHIR: Confused convener swallows a tirade, and then he appears.
MAEDHROS: Note, Sam’s bride and father circulate for him.
FEANOR: Troubled, the enemy hurtled to him.
AMROD: In a dream rode out, he did.
AMRAS: Mingled, one a day will help you work, rest and play. For him.
CURUFIN: Dog of night? He’s a little shaken.
CELEGORM: He’s foolish - changes two (lineless) dollars for other notes – in turmoil.
MAGLOR: See him where the puma glories in his speed.

THEME: NERDANEL, FEANOR & SONS

All correct, and for the reasons you stated. Well done!

See my last post for explanation of 'lineless dollars.'

And over to Nerwen!

Thanks, but it was G55, not me, who guessed the password, so it's her turn.

Pervinca Took · 04-10-2019, 02:20 AM

So sorry, G55! Duly amended, and deservedly over to you.

It's you two confusing me, with your nicknames of the same character!

Galadriel55 · 04-10-2019, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

It's you two confusing me, with your nicknames of the same character!

We do it on purpose.

This one was inspired by some of Pervinca's masterpieces.

1. Pub locks out of order.
2. Mosquito absent but confused.
3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
4. Note in stirred hot water.
5. ...with a bowstring for a harp.
6. Hammer scrambles hard worker.
7. Dwalin's brother loses way.
8. Half as tall as old.

Pervinca Took · 04-10-2019, 08:03 PM

7. Bain son of Bard? (Balin loses B).

P.S. You've written a fair few masterpieces of your own!

Pervinca Took · 04-10-2019, 08:06 PM

Ah ... is this one of those puzzles without straight elements?

Galadriel55 · 04-10-2019, 08:32 PM

1. Pub locks out of order.
2. Mosquito absent but confused.
3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
4. Note in stirred hot water.
5. ...with a bowstring for a harp.
6. Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
8. Half as tall as old.

Balin loses L but yes, the answer is correct.

Not all clues have straight elements because the password is very thematic - knock a couple down and the rest will fall. But not all elements are strictly cryptic.

Pervinca Took · 04-11-2019, 03:31 AM

As the clues have me baffled, I'll try guessing the theme instead.

Are they all children of a more famous parent?

Galadriel55 · 04-11-2019, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

As the clues have me baffled, I'll try guessing the theme instead.

Are they all children of a more famous parent?

No...

Pervinca Took · 04-11-2019, 06:58 AM

I could have a guess at number 1 if there were a 'sounds like.'

Aerin

('air for locks; inn for pub).

Galadriel55 · 04-11-2019, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I could have a guess at number 1 if there were a 'sounds like.'

Aerin

('air for locks; inn for pub).

Good guess but no. You're thinking the right way though.

Galadriel55 · 04-11-2019, 06:06 PM

I will give hints as needed. Are you working on a particular clue?

Pervinca Took · 04-11-2019, 11:59 PM

Well ... maybe the theme is kings?

I will make a guess at Thranduil for 'with a bowstring for a harp.'

Galadriel55 · 04-12-2019, 05:53 AM

The theme is not kings. However, all the characters are male.

Huinesoron · 04-12-2019, 06:05 AM

Is #5 Haldir, who said the bowstring/harp line to Legolas while justifying blindfolding him?

The only theme I can see linking Bain and Haldir is 'showing up in movies when you ain't supposed to'...

hS

Galadriel55 · 04-12-2019, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Is #5 Haldir, who said the bowstring/harp line to Legolas while justifying blindfolding him?

The only theme I can see linking Bain and Haldir is 'showing up in movies when you ain't supposed to'...

hS

It's not Haldir.

There is one person there closely linked to Bain.

Galadriel55 · 04-12-2019, 08:15 AM

If it helps, #3, 5, and 8 are not really cryptic.

Huinesoron · 04-12-2019, 08:22 AM

I wonder whether the S.B.s only paid a fifth of the value of BAG-END? The only other discussion of price I can remember is in Bree, and there everyone seemed to overpay.

The theme would, of course, be 'starts with B'.

hS

Galadriel55 · 04-12-2019, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

I wonder whether the S.B.s only paid a fifth of the value of BAG-END? The only other discussion of price I can remember is in Bree, and there everyone seemed to overpay.

The theme would, of course, be 'starts with B'.

hS

Not Bag-End. But you're not wrong about the pattern.

Nerwen · 04-13-2019, 01:44 AM

For #5- BARD?

Nerwen · 04-13-2019, 01:53 AM

And #4 is BILBO ("B" + "boil").

...They don't really all start with B?

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 05:44 AM

1. Pub locks out of order.
2. Mosquito absent but confused.
3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
6. Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
8. Half as tall as old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

...They don't really all start with B?

As I said, the password is very thematic - and there is more than one pattern.

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 06:42 AM

8. Beor....?

Nerwen · 04-13-2019, 06:53 AM

Or is it BEORN, since so far they've all been "Hobbit" characters (or their offspring)? Beor was old and Beorn was tall...

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 06:57 AM

Neither Beor nor Beorn. I'm curious - why them? How did you get that from the clue?

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 07:15 AM

Beor is known as the old.

Maybe Dori, or Ori (Halves of Aldor and Beor, who were both called 'Old')

Huinesoron · 04-13-2019, 09:05 AM

#2 could be no bug == BUNGO Baggins, father of Bilbo.

Which suggests a theme of 'fathers and sons starting with B'.

hS

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

#2 could be no bug == BUNGO Baggins, father of Bilbo.

Which suggests a theme of 'fathers and sons starting with B'.

hS

Correct on both counts!

1. Pub locks out of order.
BUNGO Mosquito absent but confused.
3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
6. Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
8. Half as tall as old.

Nerwen · 04-13-2019, 09:55 AM

I believe #6 is BEREGOND ("Grond" + "bee"), meaning his brat Bergil must be one of the other clues...

Nerwen · 04-13-2019, 09:59 AM

Aha! He's #8: "I am ten years old already, and shall soon be five feet."

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2019, 10:43 AM

1. Pub locks out of order.
BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused.
3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
BERGIL: Half as tall as old.

Urwen · 04-13-2019, 10:59 AM

Password: Bombadil?

04-09-2019, 08:04 PM	#4841
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	2. Maedhros: Rose & Ham & D. I had a feeling Rose was involved but couldn't put the other pieces in place until I worked backwqrds from the theme (Feanorians?). __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-09-2019, 09:49 PM	#4842
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	#5 isn't by any chance deriving AMRAS from the ""Mars bar" slogan: "A MARS a day helps you work, rest and play", is it? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-09-2019, 09:58 PM	#4843
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	And I believe #1 is CARANTHIR? ("Chair" + "rant"). __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-10-2019, 12:12 AM	#4844
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Yes! CARANTHIR: Confused convener swallows a tirade, and then he appears. MAEDHROS: Note, Sam’s bride and father circulate for him. ???R???: Troubled, the enemy hurtled to him. AMROD: In a dream rode out, he did. AMRAS: Mingled, one a day will help you work, rest and play. For him. ???N???: Dog of night? He’s a little shaken. ???E???: He’s foolish - changes two (lineless) dollars for other notes – in turmoil. MAGLOR: See him where the puma glories in his speed. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-10-2019, 12:42 AM	#4845
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I think #3 is FËANOR ("Foe" + "ran"). __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-10-2019, 12:45 AM	#4846
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	That, by elimination, would make #6 CURUFIN and #7 CELEGORM, but I haven't actually worked out the clues yet. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-10-2019, 12:50 AM	#4847
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Er... CELEGORM from "gormless"? But I don't get "lineless dollars". And "cur" + "fuin" for CURUFIN? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 04-10-2019 at 12:56 AM. Reason: Added guess.

04-10-2019, 02:07 AM	#4848
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	An S is a dollar sign without lines through it. You lose two S's from gormless, exchanging them for musical notes. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 04-10-2019 at 02:12 AM.

04-10-2019, 02:11 AM	#4849
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	CARANTHIR: Confused convener swallows a tirade, and then he appears. MAEDHROS: Note, Sam’s bride and father circulate for him. FEANOR: Troubled, the enemy hurtled to him. AMROD: In a dream rode out, he did. AMRAS: Mingled, one a day will help you work, rest and play. For him. CURUFIN: Dog of night? He’s a little shaken. CELEGORM: He’s foolish - changes two (lineless) dollars for other notes – in turmoil. MAGLOR: See him where the puma glories in his speed. THEME: NERDANEL, FEANOR & SONS All correct, and for the reasons you stated. Well done! See my last post for explanation of 'lineless dollars.' And over to Galadriel55! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 04-10-2019 at 02:18 AM.

04-10-2019, 02:20 AM	#4851
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	So sorry, G55! Duly amended, and deservedly over to you. It's you two confusing me, with your nicknames of the same character! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-10-2019, 08:03 PM	#4853
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	7. Bain son of Bard? (Balin loses B). P.S. You've written a fair few masterpieces of your own! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-10-2019, 08:06 PM	#4854
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Ah ... is this one of those puzzles without straight elements? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-10-2019, 08:32 PM	#4855
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	1. Pub locks out of order. 2. Mosquito absent but confused. 3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price. 4. Note in stirred hot water. 5. ...with a bowstring for a harp. 6. Hammer scrambles hard worker. BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way. 8. Half as tall as old. Balin loses L but yes, the answer is correct. Not all clues have straight elements because the password is very thematic - knock a couple down and the rest will fall. But not all elements are strictly cryptic. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-11-2019, 03:31 AM	#4856
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	As the clues have me baffled, I'll try guessing the theme instead. Are they all children of a more famous parent? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-11-2019, 06:58 AM	#4858
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I could have a guess at number 1 if there were a 'sounds like.' Aerin ('air for locks; inn for pub). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-11-2019, 06:06 PM	#4860
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	I will give hints as needed. Are you working on a particular clue? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-11-2019, 11:59 PM	#4861
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well ... maybe the theme is kings? I will make a guess at Thranduil for 'with a bowstring for a harp.' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

04-12-2019, 05:53 AM	#4862
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	The theme is not kings. However, all the characters are male. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-12-2019, 06:05 AM	#4863
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,909	Is #5 Haldir, who said the bowstring/harp line to Legolas while justifying blindfolding him? The only theme I can see linking Bain and Haldir is 'showing up in movies when you ain't supposed to'... hS

04-12-2019, 08:15 AM	#4865
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	If it helps, #3, 5, and 8 are not really cryptic. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-12-2019, 08:22 AM	#4866
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,909	I wonder whether the S.B.s only paid a fifth of the value of BAG-END? The only other discussion of price I can remember is in Bree, and there everyone seemed to overpay. The theme would, of course, be 'starts with B'. hS

04-13-2019, 01:44 AM	#4868
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	For #5- BARD? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-13-2019, 01:53 AM	#4869
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	And #4 is BILBO ("B" + "boil"). ...They don't really all start with B? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-13-2019, 06:42 AM	#4871
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	8. Beor....? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-13-2019, 06:53 AM	#4872
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Or is it BEORN, since so far they've all been "Hobbit" characters (or their offspring)? Beor was old and Beorn was tall... __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-13-2019, 06:57 AM	#4873
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	Neither Beor nor Beorn. I'm curious - why them? How did you get that from the clue? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 07:15 AM	#4874
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Beor is known as the old. Maybe Dori, or Ori (Halves of Aldor and Beor, who were both called 'Old') __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-13-2019, 09:05 AM	#4875
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,909	#2 could be no bug == BUNGO Baggins, father of Bilbo. Which suggests a theme of 'fathers and sons starting with B'. hS

04-13-2019, 09:55 AM	#4877
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I believe #6 is BEREGOND ("Grond" + "bee"), meaning his brat Bergil must be one of the other clues... __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-13-2019, 09:59 AM	#4878
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Aha! He's #8: "I am ten years old already, and shall soon be five feet." __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-13-2019, 10:43 AM	#4879
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,401	1. Pub locks out of order. BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused. 3. Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price. BILBO: Note in stirred hot water. BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp. BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker. BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way. BERGIL: Half as tall as old. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-13-2019, 10:59 AM	#4880
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,387	Password: Bombadil? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-13-2019 at 11:02 AM.