Character Trivia - Page 11 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 03-21-2007, 12:49 AM

His name is Pyökkiluu in Finnish but I can't recall it in English... Something like "Beechbone"?

The Might · 03-21-2007, 07:56 AM

Pyökkiluu it is

Thinlómien · 03-22-2007, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might

Pyökkiluu it is

Well then. (By the way I had to check what he was in English and I was right about Beechbone... but I assume you all knew that already...

)

The next one:

Who had two birds as pets?

The Might · 03-23-2007, 07:51 AM

Good question.
I have been thinking, and thinking, and thinking and 20 seconds ago it came to me suddently.
Erendis received two birds as a gift and later let them go.

Thinlómien · 03-26-2007, 05:19 AM

Yes, you're right. Please take the thread.

The Might · 03-26-2007, 07:08 AM

Who was said to have lead the Silvan Elves of Lorien in the War of the Last Alliance?

Macalaure · 03-26-2007, 07:21 AM

I think this was Amdir/Malgalad.

The Might · 03-26-2007, 07:29 AM

Malgalad indeed

Macalaure · 03-26-2007, 07:31 AM

Thanks!

Who denied Arvedui the Kingship over Gondor?

The Might · 03-26-2007, 07:40 AM

Pelendur

Macalaure · 03-26-2007, 08:00 AM

..and back to you it goes.

The Might · 03-26-2007, 09:22 AM

Ok...What other folk were the Dunlendings closely related to?

Dimturiel · 03-26-2007, 11:26 AM

I know! The Dead Men of Dunharrow.

The Might · 03-26-2007, 11:37 AM

Correct
And I'll reward you by posting this new Estelyn smiley I just noticed:

Dimturiel · 03-27-2007, 11:44 AM

Heh, thanks, that's cute.

Ok, so tell me who were Thorin's nephews?

The Might · 03-27-2007, 03:41 PM

Fili and Kili right?

Dimturiel · 03-28-2007, 11:41 AM

Right. Do go on.

The Might · 03-28-2007, 12:42 PM

Who threw down his crown?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-28-2007, 01:19 PM

Wasn't it Fingon?

The Might · 03-28-2007, 01:58 PM

No

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-28-2007, 02:25 PM

Oh, sorry. First, I meant Finrod

Second, I now became to think it was actually Orodreth. Is any of these two correct?

The Might · 03-28-2007, 02:48 PM

Finrod is

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-28-2007, 03:05 PM

Ah, so indeed. I knew only it was someone who did that because he had enough of Celegorm&Curufin, so...

Okay, another one. Who dwelt in a city which was named the same as his father? (I hope this is understandable)

The Might · 03-28-2007, 03:35 PM

What does city mean...a big settlement?

Gil-Galad · 03-28-2007, 06:38 PM

Orodreth, Gondors 16th steward and ruler of Minas Tirith in Gondor was named after Orodreth, brother of Finrod, who was in charge of the first Minas Tirith in Beleriand

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-29-2007, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Might

What does city mean...a big settlement?

Yes, a big settlement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gil-Galad

Orodreth, Gondors 16th steward and ruler of Minas Tirith in Gondor was named after Orodreth, brother of Finrod, who was in charge of the first Minas Tirith in Beleriand

Oh, this is why I wrote that I hope the question is understandable. Let me use what Gil-Galad wrote as an example: if Orodreth the Steward was to be correct answer, then he would have to live in a city not named Minas Tirith, but in a city named "Belecthor I." (this was his father).

The Might · 03-29-2007, 06:47 AM

I asked because I found the members of the Gamwhich family in the Shire that lived in the village with the same name...but it's not a city I guess

Anyway, what about Hama, son of Helm Hammerhand
He followed his father to the Hornburg and died during the winter, afterwards the city was named after his father

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-29-2007, 06:52 AM

But he died at that time, right? So he didn't live in Helm's deep when it was named the same as his father, only before, when it was not named at all.
And, he didn't live there... quite the opposite, actually

Gil-Galad · 03-29-2007, 07:32 AM

well i meant Father, as more of a analogy to the past, like in memory, not of the maternal sense, as the line of stewards(at least i think so) was connected to the royal family of Numenor which was connected to the Elven royal family.

So with Orodreth the elf being lord of the first Minas Tirith and Orodreth the man being lord of the second Minas Tirith, i just saw the connection there. if the grammar was changed in the question, like adding a comma after city, then this anwser would make more sense

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-30-2007, 06:39 AM

Yes, but there is no comma and the question is far simpler than that, though it shows really constructive "riddler" thinking. Try something else

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-12-2007, 04:18 PM

The original question was:

Who dwelt in a city which was named the same as his father?

We agreed on that "city"stands for a "big settlement" here.

Now, here's the hint:

This "city"'s name had two parts, while one of them was the name and the second had the meaning of "city" or something like that. Like, for example:

Port Sauron

or

Aragornsville

Hope this helps. I don't want to see threads dead!

The Might · 04-12-2007, 04:36 PM

I would have said Ephel Brandir, but he had no sons...and it wasn't that big

Maybe Meneldil...Minas Anor/Anarion
I know it's not good, but I can't seem to find anything else.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-12-2007, 04:42 PM

Good attempts, nice attempts... though it is still not what I'm looking for.
This - "city" - is not necessarily named after the person's father. This is why I formulated my question the way I did - because I don't know about any evidence that it was named after him. It is the same name, though, so there probably is a connection, but as far as I know, Tolkien didn't write anywhere explicitely about any connection (like "X came and named this city after his father").
I might also add that the father never visited that "city" (unless you deduced that from the question, because otherwise I'd simply say "who lived in a city named the same as him").
Oh, and the name is exact. So no Minas Anor/Anárion, in that case it would really be "Minas Anárion".

Gil-Galad · 04-12-2007, 10:54 PM

Dol Amroth?

Imrahil's bloodline was said to be mixed with elvish blood of Amroth, of which the city is named after

thats all i got

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-13-2007, 12:45 AM

No, Amroth was not Imrahil's father, as far as I know. This is really name of a real biological father of the person who dwelt there.

The Might · 04-13-2007, 02:37 AM

I can't believe it was right there before me all this time and I didn't see it, now I realise the question wasn't that hard, you just had to have a good memory with the names.

Celeborn lived in Caras Galadhon, and his father was also called Galadhon

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-13-2007, 05:15 AM

Very good, very good! Once again you proved your good knowledge of obscure matters like names of Celeborn's family members...

Eagerly awaiting your next question. Though, I have still yet to answer the one at the Verbal Reasoning thread...

Rune Son of Bjarne · 04-13-2007, 06:05 AM

I was going to object because I thought you had said somewhere that it was man. . .in a way so that it looked like you were talking about the race of men, but it seems that it was not the case. I must just have been really tired then.

Anyways I am quite annoyed now, because I spend over 2 hours searching for the answer last night and totaly messed up my sleep. I quicly found the possible cities, but non of them made any sense, because I was only looking to the race of men.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-13-2007, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I was going to object because I thought you had said somewhere that it was man. . .in a way so that it looked like you were talking about the race of men, but it seems that it was not the case. I must just have been really tired then.

Anyways I am quite annoyed now, because I spend over 2 hours searching for the answer last night and totaly messed up my sleep. I quicly found the possible cities, but non of them made any sense, because I was only looking to the race of men.

Oh, really sorry, Rune... Though I really think I didn't write anywhere that it should be a Man... not even anything implying it...

Well, possibly you should follow a paraphrase of Boro's signature: "For your health, sanity and good sleep, please read carefully the thread."

Rune Son of Bjarne · 04-13-2007, 06:24 AM

I think it has more to do with bring tired than not reading through the thread carefully enough. . . This took place at 5-7 am

03-21-2007, 12:49 AM	#401
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	His name is Pyökkiluu in Finnish but I can't recall it in English... Something like "Beechbone"? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-21-2007, 07:56 AM	#402
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Pyökkiluu it is __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-23-2007, 07:51 AM	#404
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Good question. I have been thinking, and thinking, and thinking and 20 seconds ago it came to me suddently. Erendis received two birds as a gift and later let them go. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-26-2007, 05:19 AM	#405
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Yes, you're right. Please take the thread. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-26-2007, 07:08 AM	#406
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Who was said to have lead the Silvan Elves of Lorien in the War of the Last Alliance? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-26-2007, 07:21 AM	#407
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I think this was Amdir/Malgalad.

03-26-2007, 07:29 AM	#408
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Malgalad indeed __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-26-2007, 07:31 AM	#409
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Thanks! Who denied Arvedui the Kingship over Gondor?

03-26-2007, 07:40 AM	#410
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Pelendur __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-26-2007, 08:00 AM	#411
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	..and back to you it goes.

03-26-2007, 09:22 AM	#412
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ok...What other folk were the Dunlendings closely related to? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-26-2007, 11:26 AM	#413
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	I know! The Dead Men of Dunharrow. __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

03-26-2007, 11:37 AM	#414
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Correct And I'll reward you by posting this new Estelyn smiley I just noticed: __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-27-2007, 11:44 AM	#415
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	Heh, thanks, that's cute. Ok, so tell me who were Thorin's nephews? __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

03-27-2007, 03:41 PM	#416
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Fili and Kili right? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-28-2007, 11:41 AM	#417
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	Right. Do go on. __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

03-28-2007, 12:42 PM	#418
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Who threw down his crown? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-28-2007, 01:19 PM	#419
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Wasn't it Fingon? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-28-2007, 01:58 PM	#420
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	No __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-28-2007, 02:25 PM	#421
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Oh, sorry. First, I meant Finrod Second, I now became to think it was actually Orodreth. Is any of these two correct? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-28-2007, 02:48 PM	#422
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Finrod is __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-28-2007, 03:05 PM	#423
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Ah, so indeed. I knew only it was someone who did that because he had enough of Celegorm&Curufin, so... Okay, another one. Who dwelt in a city which was named the same as his father? (I hope this is understandable) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-28-2007, 03:35 PM	#424
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	What does city mean...a big settlement? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-28-2007, 06:38 PM	#425
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Orodreth, Gondors 16th steward and ruler of Minas Tirith in Gondor was named after Orodreth, brother of Finrod, who was in charge of the first Minas Tirith in Beleriand __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-29-2007, 06:47 AM	#427
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I asked because I found the members of the Gamwhich family in the Shire that lived in the village with the same name...but it's not a city I guess Anyway, what about Hama, son of Helm Hammerhand He followed his father to the Hornburg and died during the winter, afterwards the city was named after his father __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-29-2007, 06:52 AM	#428
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	But he died at that time, right? So he didn't live in Helm's deep when it was named the same as his father, only before, when it was not named at all. And, he didn't live there... quite the opposite, actually __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-29-2007, 07:32 AM	#429
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	well i meant Father, as more of a analogy to the past, like in memory, not of the maternal sense, as the line of stewards(at least i think so) was connected to the royal family of Numenor which was connected to the Elven royal family. So with Orodreth the elf being lord of the first Minas Tirith and Orodreth the man being lord of the second Minas Tirith, i just saw the connection there. if the grammar was changed in the question, like adding a comma after city, then this anwser would make more sense __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-30-2007, 06:39 AM	#430
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Yes, but there is no comma and the question is far simpler than that, though it shows really constructive "riddler" thinking. Try something else __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-12-2007, 04:18 PM	#431
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, a hint time maybe... The original question was: Who dwelt in a city which was named the same as his father? We agreed on that "city"stands for a "big settlement" here. Now, here's the hint: This "city"'s name had two parts, while one of them was the name and the second had the meaning of "city" or something like that. Like, for example: Port Sauron or Aragornsville Hope this helps. I don't want to see threads dead! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-12-2007, 04:36 PM	#432
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I would have said Ephel Brandir, but he had no sons...and it wasn't that big Maybe Meneldil...Minas Anor/Anarion I know it's not good, but I can't seem to find anything else. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-12-2007, 04:42 PM	#433
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Good attempts, nice attempts... though it is still not what I'm looking for. This - "city" - is not necessarily named after the person's father. This is why I formulated my question the way I did - because I don't know about any evidence that it was named after him. It is the same name, though, so there probably is a connection, but as far as I know, Tolkien didn't write anywhere explicitely about any connection (like "X came and named this city after his father"). I might also add that the father never visited that "city" (unless you deduced that from the question, because otherwise I'd simply say "who lived in a city named the same as him"). Oh, and the name is exact. So no Minas Anor/Anárion, in that case it would really be "Minas Anárion". __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-12-2007, 10:54 PM	#434
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Dol Amroth? Imrahil's bloodline was said to be mixed with elvish blood of Amroth, of which the city is named after thats all i got __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

04-13-2007, 12:45 AM	#435
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No, Amroth was not Imrahil's father, as far as I know. This is really name of a real biological father of the person who dwelt there. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-13-2007, 02:37 AM	#436
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I can't believe it was right there before me all this time and I didn't see it, now I realise the question wasn't that hard, you just had to have a good memory with the names. Celeborn lived in Caras Galadhon, and his father was also called Galadhon __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-13-2007, 05:15 AM	#437
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Very good, very good! Once again you proved your good knowledge of obscure matters like names of Celeborn's family members... Eagerly awaiting your next question. Though, I have still yet to answer the one at the Verbal Reasoning thread... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories