Tol-in-Gaurhoth XV-The Villagers Strike Back!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Well, Gurthang, you guessed my secret. Wise.

But then you apologised to Spawn because 'that's the way the cookie crumbles' and she had to die. I voted for Wayne in the hope that Spawn and I could die side-by-side! So it appeared you thought Wayne was my ally. Not wise. (If I'm wrong here then apologies; and 'very wise' you remain. )

Great job all round by the wolves. Very efficient.

It was quite a funny game. In the end it was a veritable slaughter, but I think we Heroes only made one poor decision: that being attacking Meneltarmacil when we should have guessed he would be protected. Truly, Eru does not will the Werewolves to be destroyed yet!

[Gurthang]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. I was actually more sure Wayne was a hero than I was of you!

So, as it turns out, no matter who morm would have picked, we would have put up a hero! Man it's good to know there wasn't a wrong answer.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm relieved that no-one has yet pointed out a way I could have escaped capture. To be honest, I was kind of expecting Saucepan Man or some other clever person to come in and say "Why didn't you just do this..."

There was no way out, right?

[Meneltarmacil]

Menel, I see you have a new signature (thank you!), I really was wondering if you were just trying to copy my ideas. I guess it was just coincidence, right?

Apparently. I'm pretty sure I wasn't stealing your ideas, and so that's most likely the case.

[Gurthang]

Well, that's a relief.

That line almost has a story behind it, well a short one at least. From my point of view, I was seeing a lot of similarities between our posts. Now, I didn't want to just jump out and say 'Menel is copying my posts' as such an accusation often isn't true and leaves the accusor feeling rather embarassed. Still, I wanted to somehow get my message across without seeming too accusatory/offensive. I had to think of a funny way to tell people I had noticed, what I thought, was strange behaviour. And so the quote was born. I'm glad to see you found it amusing.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I'm relieved that no-one has yet pointed out a way I could have escaped capture. To be honest, I was kind of expecting Saucepan Man or some other clever person to come in and say "Why didn't you just do this..."

There was no way out, right?

With the Lord Sauron orchestrating your demise, how could there have been?

Seriously, I had WAY too much fun coming out in the open with that post... way too much fun. So kudos, kudos, kudos, to Anguirel for giving me the opportunity to be the Dark Lord.

My strategym such as it was, was to get a list of "proven innocents (or proven Heroes) and present them to the village after four dreams or so. Had I been in apparent danger, I would have revealed all earlier, but luck was on my side.

The night that I voted for Mithalwen, I really and truly had absolutely no idea who in the place was a Hero. I was just really grateful that Huan was dead- since it meant that I couldn't be mistaking about any of my real villagers. My vote for Mith was, as someone pointed out, a cop-out. However, it did a VERY good job of putting me back on the "suspicion list", which assured (in my mind) that the Heroes would leave me be for a while.

Then came the Meneltarmacil debacle and Morm's great plan- which irked me because it was too similar- and too soon- to my plan. However, it gave me the perfect cover. Not to mention the perfect set up for the post of Lord Sauron's fury!

And, to Morm:

Consider it a mark of my highest esteem for you as a Tol-In-Gaurhother that I dreamed of you at the very beginning. I wanted to know from the outset who's side you were on.

[WaynetheGoblin]

well i guess thats good i mean i wanted revenge on the wolfs and hope that the hero would have won but hey i won.

[Farael]

Aye, Yaye!!!!!! Wake up at 1 PM ready for lunch, feeling great and find that the game is already over!

First of all, congratulations to everyone for a fun game... Even to Mithalwen, will you forgive me now that we've won and I've been proven innocent???

I swear to you guys, for a moment you had me wanting to admit being a Hero... just for fun's sake EVERYONE WOULD HAVE LOOKED SO SILLY!!! alas, I was who I said I was

Even though I suspected spawn in the beginning, if I had orchestrated the double devouring it would have been Wayne and Boromir, Eomer and someone else in the next opportunity... I don't know what you said Boro, but I suspected you.

I wish you all a merry Christmas or Janukah!! and a happy new year just in case I don't get another chance to say so =)



And for the last time GRRRRRRRAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR I'M CARCHAROTH!!!

[Kath]

Eomer, all I can say is congratulations. No you couldn't have got out of dying but what an innocent you seemed!

Also Form, yes I can still say you are wrong even when playing Sauron!

But thanks to Anguirel for a fantastic game. Villagers against werewolves with a twist. Wonderful!

[Boromir88]

I don't know what you said Boro, but I suspected you.

Even when I actually am helpful to the innocents and actually am key to the lynching of a wolf (in this case it would be a hero) I get suspected, so no need to fret. This one I really wasn't too helpful so it comes to no surprise that I would be suspected.

[Meneltarmacil]

Yes, I admit I've often suspected you, even in my very first game when I was Ye Olde Knighte. I'm not sure what it is about you, but you just seem to look suspicious to me often for a variety of reasons specific to each game.

[mormegil]

This was rather fun for me for multiple reasons.

1. The role reversal
2. My characterisation was a blast even though I had difficulty insulting people because I like you so much.
3. Playing on the edge and being suspected was great!
4. I survived until the game was over (that is a first for me).

I must admit that when I found out SpM was Huan I was disappointed that he died so early. I was excited to see how he would perform in such a role.

Very enjoyable all.

Oh and Eomer there was a way to win...magically convince us that you were innocent. Really there was no possible way, so well done.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

A question to you beasts who killed me:

Did you really suspect me? I was feeling kind of safe, no one but Menel had raised suspision about me. You votes seemed to me rather random or at least beeing based on allmost nothing. (like when you really don't know who to vote for and just decides that because of this tiny thing I am going to vote for him/her)

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

To be honest, I was kind of expecting Saucepan Man or some other clever person to come in and say "Why didn't you just do this..."

There was no way out, right?

Well, if you hadn't gone and killed your faithful hound, you would have had a "proven innocent" on your side, given that Formy dreamed of me early on.

Well, it was fun while it lasted. My strategy was to play as normal and try to stay around to cause some havoc near the end. Perhaps, knowing my (ill-deserved) "reputation", I should have just gone all out to confuse from the outset. But I was rather surprised to be killed on Day 2, as I thought that there were some prospective Saurons around (none of whom turned out to be Sauron, although I had Mithalwen down as a possibility).

The "slips", by the way, were entirely genuine and nothing to do with my role. I missed Morm's reference to Elves and "of" in my first post should have been "from" - a simple mistype. As for not posting as much as normal, I rarely post as much at weekends as I do during the week.

Still, good game all round. I enjoyed reading along after my death, most particularly when everyone was trying to read something into my vote for Nonnacedak, when I was simply trying to vote as I thought a genuine Wolf might. Glad he turned out not to be a hero, though.

Excellent modding job, Ang. I really enjoyed the write-ups. Particularly the little "dig" at the Heroes for killing me.

Merry Christmas all!

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I'm relieved that no-one has yet pointed out a way I could have escaped capture. To be honest, I was kind of expecting Saucepan Man or some other clever person to come in and say "Why didn't you just do this..."

There was no way out, right?

Probably not, but I would have tried going for Morm the night after spawn got killed, pray formen didn't dream about you to confirm the suspicions and then get him... then get Boro. They were the leaders and the pack might have sunk into anarchy. After that I'd go for Kath and don't kill Mithalwen as long as we are both alive, just start up some more arguments... keep

Of course, if you were asking how to avoid being suspected... well, trying to bring other people to the spotlight is not always the wisest calls so... prayer? I don't know, but you did give up before the game was over.

[Oddwen]

Yay! Good game, all! I had fun. Especially the role-reversals of it all, the only time I got it mixed up was when Nonna was lynched...I looked at the list and it said "Nonna (Werewolf) lynched" and I was like "Yay! Got a Werewolf...oh." Anyway. Being a Wolf actually helped me this game, every other game I've ever played I've just felt so frantic and stressed...not this one. Thanks, guys!

Oh, and sorry I couldn't get back to vote last night, I was so sick I lost track of time and had to go to bed.

Again, good game, and Merry Christmas to all!

[mormegil]

Spawn how many times now have you been a werewolf/hero role? I remember at least 3 or 4. I think you may have the record number.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by mormegil

I believe he meant that Spawn is his fellow hero and that is why he wanted to die side by side with her. See I was correct in thinking the Heroes would be quiet tonight.

Heh, I had it all planned out, I intended to be quite vocal and do some mischief or at least insult you all in Quenya before my death, but I was so caught up with Christmas stuff that I couldn't get on Downs.

Spawn how many times now have you been a werewolf/hero role? I remember at least 3 or 4. I think you may have the record number.

Three. 2/3 of the games my team has won (though I can't claim much credit for the victory in WW14), but we were just about the unluckiest bunch of miscreants here. *sigh* In the end, it was just comical, though.

Anguirel, thanks for great modding, though your PMs were rather annoying...

Those with less clear eyesight often spot many things before those with sharp eyesight.-Plato, Republic X

I mean, seriously, that's just twisting the knife.

Eomer and Rune, special thanks to you, my fellow heroes. After all gifteds had stepped forward and with so many proven innocents, I don't see how we could have won, but it was fun, nonetheless.

This was probably the most draining game in which I've ever played and part of me is glad that it's now over. The other part can't wait 'till a new WW game begins.

[Mithalwen]

This will be quick .. but ..wow... and Ang was right about Draugluin being difficult...

I so nearly protected SpM on Day 1!!! SO ironic I went for Eomer who I though innocent at first and then suspected when his hint about being gifted failed to make sense....



SO why I was wrong about Farael (we have made peace privately btw) I still think he looked shifty!! At least I made two good calls when it really mattered... but I take this game far too seriously....

[Boromir88]

Yes, I admit I've often suspected you, even in my very first game when I was Ye Olde Knighte. I'm not sure what it is about you, but you just seem to look suspicious to me often for a variety of reasons specific to each game.

I remember that game, ahh...my first one. And I know I suspected you there at the end and actually wanted to lynch you until Sauce told me no, no, no, here's the way to win it.

The role reversal
My characterisation was a blast even though I had difficulty insulting people because I like you so much.
Playing on the edge and being suspected was great!
I survived until the game was over (that is a first for me).

Yes, I definitely enjoyed this switch for my last game in a while. Also morm, I really was wary of you until Formendacil came out, because of your insulting. Reminded me of my "insulting man from Dor Lomin" in Phantom's awesome game, though I was innocent in that, I constantly comtemplated that you are just using your insults for cover so people would think "why would a hero be so shrewd...", since that worked in my favor when I was the insulter.

[Kath]

well i guess thats good i mean i wanted revenge on the wolfs and hope that the hero would have won but hey i won.

Umm, Wayne was an innocent right? Anyone know what this post is saying?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I guess it means that he has lost to wolves many times and would like to see them get a good beating, but if this does not happen he does not really care because then he would win.

Of this we can conclute that this game was a win, win situation.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Also morm, I really was wary of you until Formendacil came out, because of your insulting. Reminded me of my "insulting man from Dor Lomin" in Phantom's awesome game, though I was innocent in that, I constantly comtemplated that you are just using your insults for cover so people would think "why would a hero be so shrewd...", since that worked in my favor when I was the insulter.

So I guess everyone would choose to be an insulting character from now on...

That would be a painful game.

[Boromir88]

Umm, Wayne was an innocent right? Anyone know what this post is saying?

I think it means since we (meaning innocents) lynched him, he wanted revenge on us and for us to lose, but he ended up winning (being that he was an innocent).

So I guess everyone would choose to be an insulting character from now on...

That would be a painful game.

True that.

I find it rather funny that if anyone's been the "Three wolves/heroes" you know it's vital as to what you say and you have to really kind of watch what you say. But, also even as an innocent ordinary villager (these last to games especially) I had to refrain from saying a few things. For example, it was when I was getting suspected for voting for Nonnacedak the first Night, I just wanted to say "Hey you don't think if I bandwagoned like everyone else onto Glirdan that I wouldn't beable to get myself out of that vote?" But, I just had to refrain from that, thinking it would just make me worse off. I just find it amusing that no matter what role you are, what side you're on, it's a game where you have to watch what you say, even if you aren't one of the three.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I find it rather funny that if anyone's been the "Three wolves/heroes" you know it's vital as to what you say and you have to really kind of watch what you say. But, also even as an innocent ordinary villager (these last to games especially) I had to refrain from saying a few things. For example, it was when I was getting suspected for voting for Nonnacedak the first Night, I just wanted to say "Hey you don't think if I bandwagoned like everyone else onto Glirdan that I wouldn't beable to get myself out of that vote?" But, I just had to refrain from that, thinking it would just make me worse off. I just find it amusing that no matter what role you are, what side you're on, it's a game where you have to watch what you say, even if you aren't one of the three.

Very true. That's why I'm inclined to suspect those who play very clean...right, Eomer? *coughcoughWerewolfVIIcoughcough*

[Holbytlass]

Anguirel, superb modding, I wanted to see a role reversal and this was better than anything I ever thought of. Well done!

To the players, I never laughed so hard at first day fun and arbitrary finger pointing! Thank you all for fine entertainment.

[Mithalwen]

[QUOTE=The Saucepan Man]
Well, it was fun while it lasted. My strategy was to play as normal and try to stay around to cause some havoc near the end. Perhaps, knowing my (ill-deserved) "reputation", I should have just gone all out to confuse from the outset. But I was rather surprised to be killed on Day 2, as I thought that there were some prospective Saurons around (none of whom turned out to be Sauron, although I had Mithalwen down as a possibility).

The "slips", by the way, were entirely genuine and nothing to do with my role. I missed Morm's reference to Elves and "of" in my first post should have been "from" - a simple mistype. As for not posting as much as normal, I rarely post as much at weekends as I do during the week.

QUOTE]

Well I know only too well it is difficult to play "normally" when you aren't in a normal role but while I did feel a bit mean, you did seem off your game and the first day is so random that you have to pick on someone and I knew you would be able to cope and fend off a bandwagon if I were wrong.... I was aware that the" one day SpM HAS to be one of the 3" factor was good cover for a semi-random vote.

As it was you did nearly convince me and I did nearly protect you and thanks to a internet connection which is incredibly slow at lunchtimes (due to colleagues downloading music and the whole thing being run from a server in Austria), I spent a guiltridden afternoon when I knew you had been killed but I didn't know that you were Huan. I couldn't believe my eyes when I finally got to read the whole truth.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I was aware that the" one day SpM HAS to be one of the 3" factor was good cover for a semi-random vote.

Ah, 'tis my fate always to be on the side of the Villagers ...

Actually, I was quite happy with your vote as I thought it gave me a better chance of not being killed overnight. So much for that theory ...

I don't know. Only the second time that I have been anything other than an Ordo, and I get killed on the first (game) night.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Actually, I was quite happy with your vote as I thought it gave me a better chance of not being killed overnight. So much for that theory ...

I don't know. Only the second time that I have been anything other than an Ordo, and I get killed on the first (game) night.

I suggest you try dumbing yourself down a little.

[Mithalwen]

But that would be folly.... what is more suspicious than a professional wordsmith renowned for their intelligence playing dumb? Apart from anything else it would freak everyone out so much that they would lynch him anyway....

My own theory is that SpM should stop worrying about whether he will be able to commit for the full duration of the game. I haven't checked to verify but it does seem the more concerned he is that he might be unavailable later on the more likely it is that he won't survive 36 hrs....

[Anguirel]

Drumroll...


Sauron Gazes

Day 1-Mormegil-You stare across into the lowest pits of the tower, where your lowliest minions bide. There you see Mormegil, cuffing another wolf, probably Glirdan, as they squabble over an Elven corpse. You stare into the darkness of Mormegil's twisted mind, but he is truly focused on obtaining the corpse-meat. It seems that, if somewhat unintelligent, this pawn of yours is at least loyal-an ordinary werewolf.

Day 2-The Saucepan Man-Your impenetrable gaze trains its power on the largest of your remaining minions, the brash and boastful Big Bad Wolf, the Saucepan Man. Your powers sink into his savage animal mind-and find something you did not expect-the hated symptoms of Valinorean influence.

This is unmistakable the pawn of Orome, Huan the great Hound!

But at that point, there is a flash of steel and the singing of a bowstring! Three cloaked figures close in on Huan as he urgently bids them stop:

"You're making a terrible mistake!"

The vision cuts off...

Day 3-Mithalwen-Your Gaze extends to Mithalwen's lair, relatively high up in the Tower due to her standing as the largest female wolf. Examining it, you see it is a rather less gory and depressing habitat. No skulls and bones litter the ground; no flesh festers. Could this be an indictment against her? Perhaps the supposed great wolf eats only...elf-food?

However, as the time you stare lengthens and the sun beats stronger, weakening your will to continue looking, you realise something striking. Mithalwen is not, in fact, in any of these chambers. Searching for the threads of her mind, you detect her far below in the caves of your lesser servants! Surely a tell-tale sign: she must be a Hero, prowling among them to slay them...

Yet wait! You find her at last, and she has taken no Heroic shape. Quite the reverse; she looks larger and brawnier than ever. What fangs that she-wolf has!

And at last it dawns on you. Whoever owns this meagre billet is being watched unerringly as they sleep. Mithalwen is truly Draugluin, and she does not intend to fail you, her Master.

Day 4-Gurthang-Gil-Gurth, one of the few werewolves permitted to hold audiences with you due to his keen mind and brute cunning, flaunts his loyalty to you whenever possible. Yet this does not allay your suspicions; rather, spurs them on.

You stare with unfathomable intensity as his tower room swims into your vision. He is within, on a pallet of rags and bones; he has just sunk into slumber. You examine him carefully for signs of pretence. There are none.

Gil-Gurth is an ordinary werewolf.


Draugluin Guards

Eomer of the Rohirrim (a Hero!)
Meneltarmacil (saved!)
Kath



Heroes Slay

Anguirel
The Saucepan Man
Meneltarmacil (failed)
Meneltarmacil


Carcharoth Hunts

Boromir88
Gurthang
Wayne

I enjoyed this tremendously and I hope that, in quite a few moons, I will have its sequel prepared. The story will continue with Carcharoth the new wolf pack leader and Spawnowen among the werewolves (though of course Spawnowen will not necessarily be played by Spawn!)