Riddles in the Downs - Page 11 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gothmog · 11-09-2005, 09:04 AM

Hearing "faithful" I'm thinking of Numenor an those faithful to the old traditions, not forsaking the friendship of the elves. "Shunned by all", hmmm... I'm going to guess for Tar-Miriel. She was supposed to be queen but was forced into marriage and from the throne. Maybe that is "shunned by all". It is also said that she tried to reach the top of Meneltarma when the island sank, which would explain why she's high over vale. In the ground meaning dead in this interpretation.

I don't think that's correct actually. But am I on to something? Is any part correct?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-09-2005, 11:54 AM

No your all wrong Morsul !

Your answer is all wrong too Gothmog, but some of your resoning is right, try rethinking it. . .

(remember I am no good at this so it might be cryptic)

Gil-Galad · 11-09-2005, 07:14 PM

Tar-Pantir? he was of the faithful and tried to bring back the Elvish ways

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-10-2005, 04:06 AM

Nope.

Try to think a little unorthodoxly. . .

(Shall I give a hint when I return in 8 hours?)

Gothmog · 11-10-2005, 07:21 AM

The last line sounds kind of like the barrowmounds. A barrow-wight? The barrow-wight? But I don't know about the first line. The kings in the barrows were descendents of the faithful of Numenor? And those who lived in Numenor and were faithful was shunned by all? All that anti-elvish propaganda going on...

No I really have no idea... Maybe a hint, if no-one else has any ideas

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-10-2005, 06:25 PM

Hint: Not a person

Maybe it is to easy now, but thats just the way it has to be.

Morsul the Dark · 11-15-2005, 09:43 AM

lotlorien
among the faithful elves shunned by men
placed high because of its magic and great elven roots and its roots tree roots are ion the ground?

Mettare · 11-15-2005, 03:07 PM

How about the Stone of Erech?

It was on the top of the Hill of Erech, yet in the ground; people were quite afraid of it, but it was brought there by Isildur from Numenor...

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-16-2005, 04:09 AM

Sorry Morsul your wrong again, but a real good guess though. . .

Congrat's Mettare that was the answer I was looking for !

I hereby yield the thread to you

Mettare · 11-16-2005, 12:31 PM

Another way to be taken
For the first was taken away
From the light into shadows and dimness
A treacherous way, a dangerous way
Calling its victims

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-16-2005, 01:12 PM

Just to get us startet: The Straight Road ?

I dont think it is correct, but was the first thing that came to my mind.

Gothmog · 11-16-2005, 02:36 PM

An other wild guess: The path through Moria?

Gil-Galad · 11-16-2005, 02:48 PM

crossroads maybe?

Mettare · 11-17-2005, 11:40 AM

Nope.

Gothmog's guess was good, though.. just not the one I had in mind.. I was afraid it might be a little too vague..

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-17-2005, 12:11 PM

The Gap of Rohan ?

Valesse · 11-17-2005, 12:15 PM

I'm going to say its the Pathes of the Dead.

Gothmog · 11-17-2005, 01:07 PM

I'm following my first thought and guess at Cirith Ungol. My first guess was considered good, and this is quite similar so...?

Mettare · 11-18-2005, 01:09 PM

No.

It was just a good guess but now I see there are other good guesses as well...

Slightly modified riddle:

Another way to be taken
For the first was taken away
From the light into shadows and dimness
A treacherous way, a dangerous way
Calling its many victims

Might not be a big clue (if any) but I don't want to make it too obvious...

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-18-2005, 07:21 PM

The treacherous wastes of the Helcaraxë ?

Mettare · 11-19-2005, 11:00 AM

Yep, that's it!

Your turn!

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-19-2005, 11:25 AM

Thanks. . .

Brothers three, greatest am I
I see all with my ancient eye

Not as good as yours Mettare, but I hope it will do.

Gil-Galad · 11-19-2005, 12:51 PM

Minas Tirith perhaps?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-19-2005, 01:06 PM

perhaps. . . . but it is wrong, but good guess and close it was.

Morsul the Dark · 11-19-2005, 01:08 PM

then the next logical step if that was close is Baradur?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-19-2005, 01:17 PM

yes that would be the next logical thing to do, but alas your wrong!

If you keep doing the logical thing you will end up with the right answer, allthough it may take some time.

dont read to much into the messege above.

Gil-Galad · 11-19-2005, 01:33 PM

hmm...Osgiliath?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-19-2005, 01:44 PM

Nope.

If you want I can make changes in the riddel to make it easier. . .

Gil-Galad · 11-19-2005, 01:45 PM

Gondolin perhaps?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-19-2005, 01:52 PM

No not at all.

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 01:21 PM

Minas Tirith was close...so perhaps it needs to be more specific the White Tower?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 01:31 PM

No it is somthing different.

Maybe if I change the riddle a bit.

Brothers three, tallest am I
I see all with my ancient eye

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 01:32 PM

Orthanc is pretty tall

Orthanc

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 02:13 PM

indeed it was, but it is not the answer.

Shall I give a hint ?

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 02:15 PM

yes please

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 02:35 PM

Hint: Looks only across the sea

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 02:37 PM

Grey Haven?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 02:43 PM

You cant come any closer now. You are so close, allso geographical.

Morsul the Dark · 11-22-2005, 02:50 PM

the lighthouse? i forget what its called

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-22-2005, 03:02 PM

I cant remember the lighthous...

Morsul remember the riddle (and look to a bit to the east)

Gothmog · 11-22-2005, 03:02 PM

Elostirion? The eye being the Palantiri and Elostirion being the tallest of the three towers on Emyn Beraid?

11-09-2005, 09:04 AM	#401
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Hearing "faithful" I'm thinking of Numenor an those faithful to the old traditions, not forsaking the friendship of the elves. "Shunned by all", hmmm... I'm going to guess for Tar-Miriel. She was supposed to be queen but was forced into marriage and from the throne. Maybe that is "shunned by all". It is also said that she tried to reach the top of Meneltarma when the island sank, which would explain why she's high over vale. In the ground meaning dead in this interpretation. I don't think that's correct actually. But am I on to something? Is any part correct? __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

11-09-2005, 07:14 PM	#403
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Tar-Pantir? he was of the faithful and tried to bring back the Elvish ways __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-10-2005, 07:21 AM	#405
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	The last line sounds kind of like the barrowmounds. A barrow-wight? The barrow-wight? But I don't know about the first line. The kings in the barrows were descendents of the faithful of Numenor? And those who lived in Numenor and were faithful was shunned by all? All that anti-elvish propaganda going on... No I really have no idea... Maybe a hint, if no-one else has any ideas __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

11-15-2005, 09:43 AM	#407
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	lotlorien among the faithful elves shunned by men placed high because of its magic and great elven roots and its roots tree roots are ion the ground? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-15-2005, 03:07 PM	#408
Mettare Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: terra borealis Posts: 82	How about the Stone of Erech? It was on the top of the Hill of Erech, yet in the ground; people were quite afraid of it, but it was brought there by Isildur from Numenor... __________________ Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. ~ Terry Pratchett

11-16-2005, 12:31 PM	#410
Mettare Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: terra borealis Posts: 82	Another way to be taken For the first was taken away From the light into shadows and dimness A treacherous way, a dangerous way Calling its victims __________________ Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. ~ Terry Pratchett

11-16-2005, 02:36 PM	#412
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	An other wild guess: The path through Moria? __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

11-16-2005, 02:48 PM	#413
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	crossroads maybe? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-17-2005, 11:40 AM	#414
Mettare Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: terra borealis Posts: 82	Nope. Gothmog's guess was good, though.. just not the one I had in mind.. I was afraid it might be a little too vague.. __________________ Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. ~ Terry Pratchett

11-17-2005, 12:15 PM	#416
Valesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: \|Away Posts: 614	I'm going to say its the Pathes of the Dead. __________________ "Loo, what sholde a man in thyse dayes now wryte, 'egges' or 'eyren'?" - Caxton, Eneydos

11-17-2005, 01:07 PM	#417
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	I'm following my first thought and guess at Cirith Ungol. My first guess was considered good, and this is quite similar so...? __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

11-18-2005, 01:09 PM	#418
Mettare Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: terra borealis Posts: 82	No. It was just a good guess but now I see there are other good guesses as well... Slightly modified riddle: Another way to be taken For the first was taken away From the light into shadows and dimness A treacherous way, a dangerous way Calling its many victims Might not be a big clue (if any) but I don't want to make it too obvious... __________________ Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. ~ Terry Pratchett

11-19-2005, 11:00 AM	#420
Mettare Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: terra borealis Posts: 82	Yep, that's it! Your turn! __________________ Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. ~ Terry Pratchett

11-19-2005, 12:51 PM	#422
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Minas Tirith perhaps? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-19-2005, 01:08 PM	#424
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	then the next logical step if that was close is Baradur? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-19-2005, 01:33 PM	#426
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	hmm...Osgiliath? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-19-2005, 01:45 PM	#428
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Gondolin perhaps? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

11-22-2005, 01:21 PM	#430
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Minas Tirith was close...so perhaps it needs to be more specific the White Tower? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 01:32 PM	#432
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Orthanc is pretty tall Orthanc __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 02:15 PM	#434
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	yes please __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 02:37 PM	#436
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Grey Haven? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 02:50 PM	#438
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	the lighthouse? i forget what its called __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

11-22-2005, 03:02 PM	#440
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Elostirion? The eye being the Palantiri and Elostirion being the tallest of the three towers on Emyn Beraid? __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...